Rumor: Surface 2, Surface Pro 2 to launch Oct. 22


This is the original Surface Pro with Type cover.

Neowin has already posted up hardware details on both the Surface 2 and the Surface Pro 2 in previous articles from trusted sources. Today, new rumors about Microsoft's second-generation tablet products claim to have information about the launch dates for both devices as well as their initial prices.

ZDNet, who has received this information from an unnamed source, says that both the Surface 2 and Surface Pro 2 will launch on Oct. 22, a few days after Microsoft launches Windows 8.1 to the general public. The prices for the Surface 2, which uses Windows RT, will start at $499 for the 32GB version and $599 for the 64GB model, ZDNet claims. These are the same prices and models that the original Surface RT had when it launched in October 2012.

As far as the Surface Pro 2, the article claims, again from the same unnamed source, it will start pricing at $899 for the 64GB version, and $999 for the 128GB model. Again, these are the same prices that were introduced when the original Surface Pro launched in February. However, ZDNet also states that the Surface Pro 2 will come in a 256GB version for $1,299 and a 512GB model for $1,699. Microsoft launched a 256GB model of the original Surface Pro in Japan in May and it made its way to the U.S. later this past summer. Microsoft has never introduced a 512GB version of the Surface Pro.

The article does state that this information comes from one unnamed source and that the actual launch dates, prices and models for the new Surface family could be different. We will know for sure on Monday when Microsoft holds its Surface press event in New York City, which Neowin will be attending.

Source: ZDNet

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TheMagnificent11 said,
Does anyone know whether the next generation Surfaces will have SIM slot for 4G?

Nothing is confirmed but rumours point to still no option for this.

And 6 months is being generous. Microsoft can produce all the commercials and product placements they want. At the end of the day, it's not an iPad. Heck, look at the lines of people trying to get iPhones this week. Apple is still the "cool" company millions of people want to be associated with. Especially the young folks. For many of them, Microsoft, specifically Windows, is what their parents use. For them, Windows is lame.

Edited by COKid, Sep 20 2013, 10:04pm :

I hope that's not true. I'm a "young folk" and I prefer Windows over OS X. I like the window management better, and for me, it runs all the software and games I prefer whereas OS X doesn't. I also know plenty of young people that are not into OS X at all, even some people that use Macs. I attend, work and live at a large university by the way. From what I've gathered, a lot of people that I've met who "upgraded" to a Mac after their cheapo PC (mostly HPs) got annoying with the crashes, security warnings (the bundled security), among other issues. Having invested in a better PC the first time, would've probably prevented this. I think that's why Microsoft decided to make and sell their own tablets (at a higher price) to scare/warn their OEMs to make less crappy machines and focus on making them better.

RT at that price is gonna fail big time. I love my surfaceRT but nobody will buy it at that price. If they need windows they will go with something like the ASUS T100 or just get a chomebook or ipad. Microsoft had a chance to change things this time around and if this rumor is true they blew it.

Justin Jones said,
RT at that price is gonna fail big time. I love my surfaceRT but nobody will buy it at that price. If they need windows they will go with something like the ASUS T100 or just get a chomebook or ipad. Microsoft had a chance to change things this time around and if this rumor is true they blew it.

Come on; current Surface users won't toss there old Sruface devices in the drawer and buy the latest. Apple users do this, so where is your sence of loyality to Microsoft.,

THEY NEVER LEARN....

Wrong pricing for the Surface 2 (RT).... They should have kept the same $349 for 32Gb and $449 for 64Gb... And lower the price of the touch & type cover.

It's a fail all over again.

The price for 2-1/2" SSDs is a around $1/MB, give or take a bit.

Why does the price of the Surfaces increase by significantly more than that for each upgrade level?

For example:
It costs $100 to go from 32GB to 64GB on the RT........ $100/32GB = $3.13/GB
The same $100 takes you from 64 to 128 on the S2.... $100/64GB = $1.56/GB
$300 to go from 128 to 256 on the S2............................. $300/128GB = $2.34/GB
$400 to go from 256 to 512 on the S2............................. $400/256GB = $1.56/GB

They are way overcharging for the 64GB RT in relation to the 32GB model. Same for the Pro models. The price increases for drive sizes do not match drive prices.

I think this strategy is dumb (unless it turns out that they are taking losses on the low end models to try and get them into the hands of consumers) because the main problem MS faces is adoption rate, and that is greatly affected by the low cost of the competition.

I AM GOING TO GO ****ING BROKE IN Q4, TOO MANY GOOD PRODUCTS OUT!

I've already purchased GTA V, then it's going to be FIFA 14, followed by Watch Dogs, followed by getting the damn Xbox One, followed by purchasing Surface Pro 2! WOW. Crazy end to 2013!

volodoscope said,
Microsoft is really turning into Apple. The irony.

That's actually the best thing to do since the OEMs manage to keep releasing ****ty products which are giving Windows a bad reputation.

CygnusOrion said,
No turning into Apple would mean turning a mega profit on hardware. Something Microsoft has yet to show.

That's the problem with being late to your own party.

If they are going to charge those prices, I think they need to sweeten the deal by throwing in the new type cover with the built in battery as part of the price.

The surface tablets are great devices trying to break into a market dominated by one major player. One tactic is needed here, persistence. Giving up after the first release would be folly.

Nokia has proven this. Their persistence is now starting to pay off.

Lastly... 'more suitable' for what exactly? The surface can do everything an iPad can do, just as well. The Surface pro can do everything an iPad can do, plus everything a laptop can do. What is 'not suitable' about that?

I agree. People need to get a real job to pay a premium for a quality device or suck it up and buy a plastic tablet from Dell or Acer.

Entitlement from the internet commenters is out of control lately.

We'll know in a few days, I think the Surface 2 should start at $399 though, at least until the older ones are gone then they can reduce the price of the new ones again.

If the prices really do remain the same its doa.... which is sad because I want to get a pro 2 but not if they want that much plus another few hundred for the new power kb cover and desktop dock. They really should create a bundle that includes the surface pro 2 + power kb cover + desktop dock for $999.

No more keyboards for obscene add on prices. They should be the part of the hook and complete package or reduce the standalone price of the Surface.

It should be $499 with a keyboard of choice and $30 more for the physical key ones and more for the extra battery/keyboard if that rumour is true.

That is a lot more attractive compared to competitors. Advertising Surface with the Keyboard then finding out it is $$$+$100 for a keyboard. Yeah, no thanks.

Lesson learnt on that $900 mil write off lol.
If they expect these to sell at those prices they at least need to include a touch cover with the RT/type with the pro (which the originals should have had too). Even then they'd probably be too expensive.

That's about $200 more than I'd pay for any of these devices. They really expect you to pay a premium for their devices don't they? On Pro maybe that's justified because it will run full PC software which nothing else can do but on RT I just don't see how they justify that.

Asmodai said,
That's about $200 more than I'd pay for any of these devices. They really expect you to pay a premium for their devices don't they? On Pro maybe that's justified because it will run full PC software which nothing else can do but on RT I just don't see how they justify that.

The new Surface 2 (RT) will have cellular capabilities.

Not everyone wants that. I know I don't want to pay extra for each of my devices to have it's own connection when I can just use the phone I always have with me as an access point (when WiFi isn't available).

Even so in my mind the Surface 2 (RT) competes with the Nexus 7 which is $349 for 32GB and cellular capabilities. Is Surface RT better? Maybe, but it's sure as heck not $150 better since it doesn't run regular windows software like Pro does. These things are too expensive if MS is trying to grow their market.

$1699 for a Slate Tablet seems too much IMO. Said that I have also preferred, and bought Convertible ones, therefore I might be biased here.

Fritzly said,
$1699 for a Slate Tablet seems too much IMO. Said that I have also preferred, and bought Convertible ones, therefore I might be biased here.
I slightly agree. With the type cover aside from it not having a ridged hinge it is 100% a laptop replacement. Combined with the usb3.0 it's a workstation replacement unless you're doing heavy cad etc. I plan on moving to a Surface Pro v2 with 5 monitors for my single workstation (home and work) rather than buying two desktops. We'll see if I can make myself take that leap when the time comes.

MrHumpty said,
I slightly agree. With the type cover aside from it not having a ridged hinge it is 100% a laptop replacement. Combined with the usb3.0 it's a workstation replacement unless you're doing heavy cad etc. I plan on moving to a Surface Pro v2 with 5 monitors for my single workstation (home and work) rather than buying two desktops. We'll see if I can make myself take that leap when the time comes.

I'll vouch for the 5-monitor setup. I have a USB3 dock hooked up to my Pro, and along with some VGA -> USB adapters, I had 6 displays working fine at some point. As I don't have the room on my desk however, I'm back down to 4.

The Pro's DisplayPort-to-VGA cable can also be used for one more monitor.

They need to retain the 349 pricing and blow out the current stock or even better give it to schools.

If they keep current models around they will continue to confuse the customer which only Apple seems to be good at.

SSDs are still expensive. In a 2.5" drive enclosure, a 512MB SSD will cost you at least 420$ (and that's for a low grade one)

Please do not reference Crucial. I have 8 SSD Drives, only the Crucial drives have ever been replaced. pulse there is a huge pricing difference between consumer and business class.

MikadoWu said,
Please do not reference Crucial. I have 8 SSD Drives, only the Crucial drives have ever been replaced. pulse there is a huge pricing difference between consumer and business class.
I'm sorry I personally offended you. I've only replaced Oz drives, my intels have been perfection. I've never used crucial. But, had someone mentioned Oz I would have been sure to point out that Oz was horrible and completely ignore using a link to show the prices of normal msata cards.

Also, thanks for letting us know that consumer and business class hardware has a price difference. Gonna put that in my flash cards to memorize tonight, to think I've been wrong all this time. Oh wait, that's not relevant because there is no consumer v commercial class msata's that I've ever seen.

MrHumpty said,
Also, thanks for letting us know that consumer and business class hardware has a price difference. Gonna put that in my flash cards to memorize tonight, to think I've been wrong all this time. Oh wait, that's not relevant because there is no consumer v commercial class msata's that I've ever seen.

Then you've clearly never worked in a corporate environment. Recently ordered a Dell Latitude E6540 (from memory) and it only supports a two-drive configuration if one drive is an SSD. Why's that? Because the SSD is an enterprise-grade mSATA drive.
Unfortunately I don't have the computer in this office so I can't check the part number to prove it.

Fred 69 said,
Then you've clearly never worked in a corporate environment. Recently ordered a Dell Latitude E6540 (from memory) and it only supports a two-drive configuration if one drive is an SSD. Why's that? Because the SSD is an enterprise-grade mSATA drive.
Unfortunately I don't have the computer in this office so I can't check the part number to prove it.
Dell also was selling me enterprise grade SATA drives for a server once. They were just .2 seagates. They called them enterprise-grade to get you to spend more money. You may not be aware that Ram and hard drives are where Dell make a ton of their money... Hell enterprise ssd really shows up in SAN's where the controller makes the difference.

MrHumpty said,
Dell also was selling me enterprise grade SATA drives for a server once. They were just .2 seagates. They called them enterprise-grade to get you to spend more money. You may not be aware that Ram and hard drives are where Dell make a ton of their money... Hell enterprise ssd really shows up in SAN's where the controller makes the difference.

They may be the same hardware, however, they come with a warranty to match enterprise needs as well as guarantees to run 24/7. The fun part is knowing which consumer hardware is good enough for OEMs to consider enterprise-grade and sell as such. Even then, you usually get tweaked firmware with enterprise hardware.

Fred 69 said,
They may be the same hardware, however, they come with a warranty to match enterprise needs as well as guarantees to run 24/7. The fun part is knowing which consumer hardware is good enough for OEMs to consider enterprise-grade and sell as such. Even then, you usually get tweaked firmware with enterprise hardware.
Warranty is sold separately. And if you think you're getting different controller firmware you're nuts. They'd rev the sku... If you pull them you'll find they are the same model numbers available through retailers. Even when buying for servers I prefer buying over the counter and buying a few extra. if you're worrying about long term part availability just buy a more and put them in on a shelf.

In short, I am not going to do the Research for you MrHumpty. Go out and look at Intel and Samsung.

Samsung has at least 3 different 256G SSD Drives. The Evo and the Pro series. I do not know the name of the server version. Intel has the Same thing...

So Ummm, it is relevant ..............