Rumor: Windows 8 Mail and Calendar apps could be replaced by Outlook at some point

Microsoft announced its reorganization plans in July, under the "One Microsoft" theme, but a new report claims that the company continues to make changes in its internal teams as it refines the process. ZDNet's Mary Jo Foley claims to have heard about some of these changes via a number of unnamed sources but so far Microsoft has yet to officially comment.

The report says that the Outlook.com team, along with the Windows 8 Mail and Calendar app development teams, are now a part of the larger Applications and Services group rather than the Operating System division. It suggests that that scenario could lead Microsoft, at some point in the future, to replace the current Mail and Calendar apps with the Outlook app that was first released with Windows RT 8.1 earlier this month. The report points out that if this does happen, Outlook would have to become a true Modern UI app, rather than the desktop application that is currently available under Windows RT 8.1.

Mary Jo also says that the Windows Embedded team is now a part of the Operating System division, moving out of the Servers and Tools group. Finally, the software section of the Perceptive Pixel team, which makes those huge touchscreens for companies like Fox News, is now also a part of the Operating System division.

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testman I not wrong about Windows 8 Mail it a Metro Programming Windows 8 Apps with HTML, CSS, and JavaScript aka and look very much like the Outlookcom on web site it sure doesn't look at anything Windows Live Mail or any of the older Mail programs

Microsoft's branding farce continues. One day we will return to an email app called Outlook Express being bundled with Windows in all probability.

Actually no, I think they've finally consolidated things as it should. This app would probably just be a metro app version of Outlook.com (which would be awesome).

It will be interesting to see what a Metro edition of Outlook will be; I personally doubt that, at least in release 1, will have all the functionalities of the desktop one but I would be happy to be wrong.

Fritzly said,
It will be interesting to see what a Metro edition of Outlook will be; I personally doubt that, at least in release 1, will have all the functionalities of the desktop one but I would be happy to be wrong.

It won't have everything the desktop version does, remember Outlook isn't free though you can now get it pre-loaded on some devices. You still have to buy it/pay for it. If the metro version has most of the top used features of the outlook desktop app though and for free I don't think anyone would complain.

Fritzly said,
It will be interesting to see what a Metro edition of Outlook will be; I personally doubt that, at least in release 1, will have all the functionalities of the desktop one but I would be happy to be wrong.

yo be honest though, for most people bot having all the functionality wont be an issue, especially if its free which it will be. It makes sense to keep the brand of outlook associated with mail and calendaring along with contacts but also move the experience into the metro UI.

people in general would get past any reservations they may have on modern apps just to save on the cost of outlook, especially if they get enough functionality into the app.

duddit2 said,

yo be honest though, for most people bot having all the functionality wont be an issue, especially if its free which it will be. It makes sense to keep the brand of outlook associated with mail and calendaring along with contacts but also move the experience into the metro UI.

people in general would get past any reservations they may have on modern apps just to save on the cost of outlook, especially if they get enough functionality into the app.


I agree with you and GP007 but if MS really wants to see Metro as the future paradigm they will have to "evolve" in a way that will allow apps based on it to have parity functionalities with desktop ones and that is what I am interested to see: how Metro will be in few years.

the change of name of hotmail to outlook.com is consistent with long range planning started some time ago.

this is the way msft will crush the pretenders like google and other office/cloud imitators, by raising the sophistication of software provided free with windows to a level where it makes no sense to look elsewhere to find apps for every day tasks.

of course the office tools which are not free will continue to be even more sophisticated.

They should just call it Outlook, and the full fledged version Outlook Pro... to be consistent with all their other products

A metro app version of Outlook.com (including Mail, Calendar, People, etc.) would be great... as long as they still can be pinned as separate live tiles, which I'm sure they will as most apps have pinnable sub-sections.

I will use this if and only if they don't force you to lock down your device with the exchange policies. The current app has little use to me because the company exchange policy forces your device to lock the screen after 60 seconds if you are away. For this reason I use outlook 2013 instead.

At the moment, this would be impossible. There is no database support (unless you count a SQLite wrapper), and Outlook relies heavily on Jet/Ace for those gigantic PST and OST files.

Now, putting that aside.

The great thing about Mail and Calendar is that totally non-computer types can use them. My mom can't mess up columns, hide the preview pane or kill herself trying to print an attachment that's in preview.

All the things that make the Modern Mail app fantastic would make Outlook horrible -- "power users" want a high degree of customizability, and most importantly, the ability to open several emails, events, invitations, contacts, and so on -- and view them at the same time. This works well with windows that can partially cover other frames; it would work poorly in Modern-style sharing. Even attaching a large number of files in Mail is a pain.

That being said, I would welcome a Modern UI Outlook for my Surface, as a more powerful replacement for Mail -- just not a replacement for desktop Outlook, which, in my opinion, is one of the most useful desktop applications that Microsoft has ever written.

Yes, I totaly agree with all your points. Unfortunately, MS is on the direction to service the average masses, so MS does not give a sh*t to power users. Sad, but true, the whole metrofication movement in that company serves only 1 single purpose: to dumb the UI down to the most dullest level, servicing dumb masses with smart computers. Still clever users are already minority compared to the 100 millions of stupids, they dont make profit to worth develop a second version of the apps. Pure economics.. its always the $ that drives that company.

soder said,
Yes, I totaly agree with all your points. Unfortunately, MS is on the direction to service the average masses, so MS does not give a sh*t to power users. Sad, but true, the whole metrofication movement in that company serves only 1 single purpose: to dumb the UI down to the most dullest level, servicing dumb masses with smart computers. Still clever users are already minority compared to the 100 millions of stupids, they dont make profit to worth develop a second version of the apps. Pure economics.. its always the $ that drives that company.

You're talking out of your ass. Enterprise is one of Microsoft's biggest customers. The last thing they want is companies ditching Windows. They'll be catering to both sides of the spectrum. It's possible.

Look at the way there's a Internet Explorer desktop application and an Internet Explorer app. The same could be done with the Outlook desktop application and the Outlook app.

Makes sense. They should have done this from the beginning in my opinion. They pretty much give Outlook away for free these days for those running Exchange so they might as well just give it away for free to all and stick to a single mail and calendar app rather than waste efforts on different products that basically do the same thing.

The teams behind these apps should have never been part of the OS team anyways. This is why it took so long for the original mail apps to be updated, the OS/Windows team wanted them to be updated with Windows which just doesn't work anymore. Now that control of apps is outside of the OS I'm hoping they'll be updated quicker and not have to wait for something like Windows 8.2 to get big updates to them.

Look, while I wouldn't mind this in some ways, they had BETTER have the ability to pin to my start menu separately, otherwise Microsoft can get stuffed.

While I could see this happening with Windows RT I would seriously doubt they would do the same for Windows 8, unless the replacement is a new version on Outlook Express.

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