Rumour: Nintendo's HD console to be unveiled at E3 [Update: Exclusive details]

Nintendo isn't resting on its newfound laurels coming from its new 3DS. After more than four years in the market with its Wii console, which the public generally perceived as underpowered yet innovative compared to its current generation competitors at the time, Nintendo is ready to unveil its next-generation console at this year's E3 in June. If the rumours are true, Nintendo may very well seek to be the first contender in the battle of eighth-generation consoles, as the Xbox 360 was in the current seventh-generation console war.

Sources close to GameInformer have confirmed earlier today that Nintendo is ready to reveal details of its new console at E3, or even sooner than that. The main selling point of this console is the ability to run games at HD resolutions. This may be seen as a catch-up move in some ways, but it's a good move nevertheless, and it has indeed caught a few developers off guard.

Game support for the Wii is notoriously known to be skewed towards quality first-party titles from Nintendo, and at times shoddy work from third-parties. The company acknowledges this problem, and pledges to solve any difficulties developers have with developing for their platform. As Nintendo president Satoru Iwata acknowledged in a 3DS press conference late last year,

We need to decrease the concern that only Nintendo software can sell well on Nintendo platforms and third-party software cannot sell in the same volume. We feel a need to have closer ties with our third-party developers from the beginning.

The timing of this rumour is quite opportune, with another hint released two days ago that Nintendo is planning to slash the Wii's price to only $150 on May 15.

So when can we expect Nintendo's console to be in the hands of gamers? GameInformer pins a date of late 2012, but there are unconfirmed sources suggesting a Q1 2012 launch. Either way, this year's E3 just got a lot more exciting!

Update: Neowin has received additional information from insider sources regarding the launch date of Nintendo's new console. The source has pointed out that a "major developer" is currently preparing games for the new console, and is planning to ship them in Q1 2012. They state that Nintendo may try for a Q4 2011 launch, but Q1 2012 is more likely. However, Nintendo may be willing to push the launch date a few months later to Q2 2012 and skip Q1, as they are not too thrilled with the lackluster sales coming from the 3DS's Q1 launch.

CVG has more information on the console's controller, which is way more than just an upgraded Wiimote. It is rumoured to have a HD screen built-in. It will be interesting to see how games can take advantage of an extra smaller display, as they had when Nintendo introduced a second screen in the DS. CVG's sources also go on to state that the console's graphical capabilties will be beyond that of Microsoft's and Sony's current offerings.

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I hope it's more powerful than the PS3/XBOX360. The damn iPad 2 is. However, the next Playstation/XBOX is going to destroy this in terms of power (much like current gen) Then again, Nintendo slaughtered both in sales, if they get a head start there will be no chance at stopping them.

+1, once nintendo is the first of eighth generation of consoles, they will sell A LOT. They coould make it even better and add the 3DS as type of controller of Wii HD. Since it has infrared, touchscreen, gyro and accelorometer for all the motion controls...

Nintendo have a great market team, they know how to target specific market areas like "parents" and the "kid consoles" , the "learning aspect of DS brain training", the "get fit America approach", it's almost like they will see you bleeding and offer you a nintendo bandaid at a price, they are smart, but they will run out of wounds sooner or later.

I just hope they get rid of the shovel ware or at least tone it down. The real problems with 3rd party support is definately them not having a way to patch games and force updates like the ps3/360 does. If they go with a real hard drive instead of the memory card things might get better. And for the love of gawd come out in black first instead of waiting years to release a freaking black console.

I guess this would explain the poor line up of wii games for 2011. If wiis keep coming down in price I'll probably get one just to play the first party titles that I am really interested in.

Sony's NGP is also expected to be released Q4 2011 so if this new wii is also released they'll have to compete for my money .

The Wii isn't even better in terms of graphical capabilities than the original XBOX or PS2 and we are expected to believe that the Wii2/Wii HD will be better than the PS3 and XBOX 360? Please move along. April 1st was 2 weeks ago.

mauriziocorso77 said,
The Wii isn't even better in terms of graphical capabilities than the original XBOX or PS2 and we are expected to believe that the Wii2/Wii HD will be better than the PS3 and XBOX 360? Please move along. April 1st was 2 weeks ago.

Even the Gamecube had more graphical power than the PS2

I think this is going to be the Wii HD which would basically be a Wii with updated hardware, 1080p support and the integration of what ever add-ons they feel are truely important... but uhm.. we can do this Dolphin already... maybe they need to hire the Dolphin team to accelerate development.

netsendjoe said,
I think this is going to be the Wii HD which would basically be a Wii with updated hardware, 1080p support and the integration of what ever add-ons they feel are truely important... but uhm.. we can do this Dolphin already... maybe they need to hire the Dolphin team to accelerate development.

Dolphin just upscales the graphics, it doesn't make the game HD. You can do the same thing with a real Wii with a $59 upscaling HDMI adapter.

But Dolphin is free. And unlike an upscaling HDMI adapter, it doesn't rev up the Wii far beyond its manufacturing norms so it ends up overheating and dying an early death.

I love this kind of pointless forecasts and mentioning them like they are certainity.

"They plan for Q1 2012 release, they might try to make it for Q4 2011 but Q1 2012 more likely, but they might also push it to Q2 2012"

So bsaically they "might" release it sometime in the next 1.5 years. Nice prediction.

I wonder what happens when I rage from playing Donkey Kong and chuck that controller with the HD screen on it at the wall?

Honestly, all it needs is a 1080p New Super Mario Brothers, and I will probably be into it.

Also, if it is anywhere near as modifiable as the current Wii is, which something tells me it will not be, but if it somehow is, then yeah, they pretty much have a guaranteed sale from me.

DirtyLarry said,
Honestly, all it needs is a 1080p New Super Mario Brothers, and I will probably be into it.

Also, if it is anywhere near as modifiable as the current Wii is, which something tells me it will not be, but if it somehow is, then yeah, they pretty much have a guaranteed sale from me.


If you want 1080p pop in your SMB disk into your PC and play it with Dolphin. It supports 1080p and BOY those games don't look raped at all!

Too bad my iMac is too old for that kind of fun...

Glassed Silver:mac

Meh Nintendo still behind the times, the next Xbox and PS4 will probably be UHD* (Ultra High Definition, 4320p - I didn't make that up, it's real ). However, there is wisdom in Nintendo's moves, using older (and much cheaper) tech in their console allows it to be profitable much sooner (didn't the Wii start making profit from day one?) while Microsoft/Sony took years to just break even. That is my 2 cent take with a grain of salt.

* Granted it probably won't be UHD, since it only experimental at this stage but they might support whatever the next one up from HD happens to be though.

A touchscreen controller would be cool. You could play card games or scrabble and nothing would be exposed to the other players in the room.

Ahh, you mean something like what the DreamCast had on its controllers back in the day? (Using up-to-date tech of course..) Or just a full-blown "tablet style" controller? Either one would lend itself for some interesting gaming possibilities.

My eyeball there'll be a HD screen in each controller. There are barely any small devices with HD screens at the moment, and the amount of battery life and the cost associated it, and the actual size of it would mean it's extremely unlikely to be true.


The fact that you'd also need a processor capable of actually running the HD stream would mean in effect each controller would end up be a mini tablet... an intriguing possibility but that's total nonsense in regards to ever happenings .____.

Not overly convinced about the HD screen in the controller. Would that not drastically increase the overall cost of extra controllers? Surely battery life would take a hit too.

IT will not have an hd screen built in. They are reading nintendos patents wrong. The new sensor bar will have an led light thing ontop just like those tvs do. it will project color onto the wall behind the screen depending on the action of the game . IT sounds like a screen in the patent BUT the patent pics (tiff images) show what it really is.

the patent number is 20110059793 if you dont believe me. make sure you have intertiff installed.

What I would like to see is the following

1080p60 as the standard presentation format for all games with PS3/360 or better level graphics
720/1080p upscalling for all Wii and GameCube games (100% backwards compatibility)
500GB HDD (SSD has no real benefit in a console other than being slightly quicker at loading but I would rather capacity over a tiny speed increase)
BluRay disc for games and DVD/BluRay movie playback (even if sold separetly as a Wii Channel)
DNLA support
Built in NIC as well as Wifi
Improved Wiimotes to include spacial awareness, etc. that the PS3 Move has.
Wireless sensor bar (I mean jesus a AAA battery powers the 3rd party ones for almost a year! it is so annoying having that stupid sensor back cable)
Built in rechargable batteries for the Wiimotes (recharge via USB like the PS3 does) and also sell an official charging station.
A single account online system similar to XBL. Free and premium subscriptions levels.
More USB ports
Virtual GameCube memory cards (sell a transfer dock/cable for those wanting to transfer game saves)
Rerelease the Wavebird or an updated version to match the Wii as that controller is awesome for GC games.

Hmm I am sure I can think of more things but it is late and I am getting sleepy

Edit: Oh yeah. NO 3D GOD DAMMIT!!!!!! Keep that to your pretty little hand held. I don't want to have to buy a 3D TV to play Mario in HD as well as 3D. If 3D is part of the next Wii I will be skipping the Wii all together just as I have the 3DS which is a piece of **** compared to what Nintendo has offered in the past. The DSi XL is so great but the 3DS is just awful

morgantwenty said,
What I would like to see is the following
Edit: Oh yeah. NO 3D GOD DAMMIT!!!!!! Keep that to your pretty little hand held. I don't want to have to buy a 3D TV to play Mario in HD as well as 3D. If 3D is part of the next Wii I will be skipping the Wii all together just as I have the 3DS which is a piece of **** compared to what Nintendo has offered in the past. The DSi XL is so great but the 3DS is just awful

Obviously that will be a big feature...and probably why they will introduce HD is so they can take advantage of 3D Blu-ray... Another obvious cue, they wouldn't require you to have a 3D TV as that would kill sales.

Sionic Ion said,

Obviously that will be a big feature...and probably why they will introduce HD is so they can take advantage of 3D Blu-ray... Another obvious cue, they wouldn't require you to have a 3D TV as that would kill sales.

I can't see how they can go 3D really. That would mean if you buy a new wii you need to buy a new 3dtv to go with it. nintendo are not about pushing that kind of thing on the consumer, hell they didn't even push HD!

morgantwenty said,
I can't see how they can go 3D really.
The same way Xbox 360 and PS3 did. All they needed was a firmware update. The next-gen Nintendo console, if it goes that way, will be the first home console with 3D from the start. But games that have 3DTV capability for those consoles typically don't require you to actually have a 3DTV.

Voice of Buddy Christ said,
The same way Xbox 360 and PS3 did. All they needed was a firmware update. The next-gen Nintendo console, if it goes that way, will be the first home console with 3D from the start. But games that have 3DTV capability for those consoles typically don't require you to actually have a 3DTV.

Hang on I am confused, I understand the PS3 and 360 only needed a firmware upgrade to be able to output 3D content however I was of the understanding that they still require a 3D capable TV not just a standard HD TV. Or am I totally wrong about that? Can I just upgrade my PS3 firmware and get Killzone in 3D and play it in 2D on my 1½ year old Sony LCD TV?

Why is it every single system that Nintendo comes out with they always pledge to better support their 3rd parties and they never do. Please stop making that pledge when you know you won't change anything.

macrosslover said,
Why is it every single system that Nintendo comes out with they always pledge to better support their 3rd parties and they never do. Please stop making that pledge when you know you won't change anything.

They supported third party developers quite well for the Wii. They don't design and code the games for them though. The third-party developers failed, not Nintendo.

GreyWolf said,

They supported third party developers quite well for the Wii. They don't design and code the games for them though. The third-party developers failed, not Nintendo.

There were a lot of good third party games... unfortunately Nintendo ended up attracting a target audience who just didn't care and mostly ended up going for party games and fitness games, whilst the hardcore gamers didn't have time to wade through all the shovel ware and find the good games and just picked up the obvious first party titles, and done the rest of their gaming on 360 / PS3. Opting not to go for a more powerful system was probably the biggest thing to hurt thrid party sales I reckon. The "core" gamers would rather spend their money on games with good online systems, DLC and pretty graphics - first party Nintendo games notwithstanding.

Games like De Blob, Madworld, No More Heroes, Zak & Wiki, Monster Hunter, Anno, Silent Hill, Lost Shadow, Little Kings World, Okami, Geomerty Wars, Boom Blox etc. All good third party games, yet most seem to have under sold in the US. Even a number of recent first party Wii games aren't selling as good as they should be. Nintendo got too caught up in selling to the wrong audience, and they're paying for it.

I think there is a lesson learned, its okay to go off the beaten path and create something unique, but you need to make developers happy as well, I don't think the Wii was loved by developers because of its lack of powerful hardware.

I'm excited though

blahism said,
Not excited at all honestly. Wii should have been 150 a while ago as well.

Compared to everything else, Wii was a lot cheaper. Yeah I think there are netbooks that cost less, but mind you that the Wii was released in 2006, before there even were netbooks, I'm pretty sure.

blahism said,
Not excited at all honestly. Wii should have been 150 a while ago as well.

Wii also should have been HD from launch.

Yeah Zelda Wind Waker (GameCube) also looks so nice in HD. I sure hope they make the system backwards compatible and upscale just as the dolphin emulator does.

still1 said,
if we compare wii its still in xbox/ps3's 4th generation. Its that outdated.

What? The 4th generation of consoles involved the SNES and Genesis/Mega Drive. There was no xbox or playstation back in the 4th generation of consoles.

Xcursion said,

What? The 4th generation of consoles involved the SNES and Genesis/Mega Drive. There was no xbox or playstation back in the 4th generation of consoles.


You misunderstood him. He said, regarding the xbox and the ps3. (Actually it must be 3rd for xbox). He was refering to them not to all.

Xcursion said,

What? The 4th generation of consoles involved the SNES and Genesis/Mega Drive. There was no xbox or playstation back in the 4th generation of consoles.

He/she wasn't talking about the "4th generation". He/she was talking about Xbox's and PS3's future 4th generation, which means Xbox 720/1080/1200/4096/4K (or what-cha-ma-call-it: Xbox 4) and PS4.

On the other hand, he/she should have said "1st generation" because that is what "outdated" means. :]

Edited by XP1, Apr 15 2011, 2:55am :

XP1 said,
He/she wasn't talking about the "4th generation". He/she was talking about Xbox's and PS3's future 4th generation, which means Xbox 720/1080/1200/4096/4K (or what-cha-ma-call-it: Xbox 4) and PS4.

Which is still wrong for the Xbox, as the 360 is only the 2nd Xbox console, unless you want to consider the Dreamcast the Xbox's spiritual predecessor.