Rumour: Windows 7 Service Pack 1 to be released to OEMs tomorrow [Update]

Just two days after we reported the first service pack for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2 was nearing release, a Microsoft employee has claimed it will be made available in some form tomorrow.

WinRumors spotted a blog post by Microsoft Enterprise Services employee Alex Kibkalo, claiming that Windows 7 Service Pack 1 is ready for release with the build string 7601.17514.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850. That build string lines up with claims from notorious leak site Wzor, who in late December identified the very same string as belonging to the final SP1 build.

The post stated that SP1 would be ''publicly available'' tomorrow, with Mr Kibkalo later adding in the post's comments that it would be released on January 15th ''Redmond time''. He also claimed an internal announcement marking the completion of the service pack had been made.

According to WinRumors, the release referred to in the blog post is only for OEMs, a claim supported by a another comment by Mr Kibkalo stating that SP1 could hit Windows Update in the next fortnight.

While the completion of Service Pack 1 would line up with a Microsoft promise to release the update in the first half of this year, given that January 15 is a Saturday, it seems unlikely the date provided by Mr Kibkalo is correct. A January 15 release, even just to OEMs, would mark the first time ever Microsoft has released a service pack on a weekend. It is also unclear whether Mr Kibkalo speaks for Microsoft in an official fashion.

Along with various bug fixes, Service Pack 1 will bring dynamic memory support to Hyper-V in Windows Server 2008 R2, allowing administrators to pool all memory available on a physical host and dynamically distribute it to virtual machines running on that host as needed. RemoteFX will add enhanced desktop virtualization aimed at giving remote users the same experience as those sitting at a workstation.

Update: Neowin has been contacted by a Microsoft spokesperson. who stated Service Pack 1 has not been released to OEMs.

''Microsoft has not released SP1 to OEMs at this time, though we are on track for a Q1 release, as we previously announced,'' she said.

Update 2: As noted by multiple Neowin commenters, a final or near-final version of Service Pack 1 has been made available via Wzor. The leak, which matches the build string of the alleged final build (7601.17514.win7sp1_rtm.101119-1850), weighs in at 638MB for the x64 ''Wave0'' version and 349MB for the x86 ''Wave0'' version. ''Wave0'' releases contain only English, French, German, Japanese, Spanish language files. ''Wave1'' releases containing around 30 additional languages have also been leaked by Wzor.

Microsoft blogger Paul Thurrott reports that the build floating around the internet is ''near-final'', but Service Pack 1 is ''not quite done''. Neowin has requested comment from Microsoft about the leaked builds.

Image Credit: Alex Kibkalo

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That's very strange - Microsoft are not known for such practices unless they promised specific fixes to specific OEMs. Source? Got a link?

Some One (A Microsoft MVP) In The Microsoft Tech Net Forums Said That It Is Being Released Today 2 OEM's Only, And That A General Public Release Will Only Occur If The OEM's Are Satisfied With This Build, In Other Words, If The OEM's Become Unsatisfied With This Build, Then There Will Be A Second RTM! Just FYI!

kevpan815 said,
Some One (A Microsoft MVP) In The Microsoft Tech Net Forums Said That It Is Being Released Today 2 OEM's Only, And That A General Public Release Will Only Occur If The OEM's Are Satisfied With This Build, In Other Words, If The OEM's Become Unsatisfied With This Build, Then There Will Be A Second RTM! Just FYI!

There can't be a "second RTM", either it's RTM or it isn't.

darklordofthesith said,
Any word when this will be released tonight? From microsoft of course.

As said, Microsoft generally releases SPs on Tuesday so guess we'll have to wait till then to see.

darklordofthesith said,
Any word when this will be released tonight? From microsoft of course.

Microsoft's official stance currently is "It's on track for 1Q 2011"

Installed the x64 copy from Softpedia. Took ~ 15 minutes. So far nothing to report about, good or bad. Seems to have incorporated all the hotfixes I had applied. Time will tell is this is the real final.

All ready down loaded and installed it from Softpedia! The water mark is gone! So is the time bomb! All in all this seems to be the real deal guys!

kevpan815 said,
All ready down loaded and installed it from Softpedia! The water mark is gone! So is the time bomb! All in all this seems to be the real deal guys!

Except for the fact it's not a final build.

xendrome said,

Except for the fact that it is the final build.


Source?
Neowin is waiting for a comment from Microsoft. Even their offical blog claim it isn't complete.

I'm just looking forward to a nice slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 disc to have around. This ridiculous OS still hasn't screwed up enough to need a format and reinstall, and I'm not used to it, so I swore a few months back that once SP1 came out I'd just do a clean reinstall for the heck of it.

Being a Windows user since '93 and going over a year without formatting is giving me serious withdrawal pangs.

Joshie said,
I'm just looking forward to a nice slipstreamed Windows 7 SP1 disc to have around. This ridiculous OS still hasn't screwed up enough to need a format and reinstall, and I'm not used to it, so I swore a few months back that once SP1 came out I'd just do a clean reinstall for the heck of it.

Being a Windows user since '93 and going over a year without formatting is giving me serious withdrawal pangs.


SP1 integrated DVD's should be out soon, I have a slipstreamed 64-bit Professional setup files but not as an ISO. I could upload it as is in a RAR file so you can do the rest.

Latest from WZOR :

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.AND.SERVER.2008.R2.SP1.RTM.WAVE0.DVD-WZT
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:04FC2CE34B7D7A0F1A63BC490DF2D18C0A88AB14
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: 7601.17514.101119-1850_Update_Sp_Wave0-GRMSP1.0_DVD.iso
SIZE: 1,545,795,584 byte
SHA-1: 9D85703A456B79FC295BE24E797367F032FE947B
MD5: AE635827CA85D35EAC36B44F5064CD4B
CRC: 59CF095B
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave0: English, French, German, Japanese, Spanish.
for x32|x64|IA64 systems
NOTE2: this is original M$ image.
by W.Z.T


MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.SERVICE.PACK-1.RTM.X86.WAVE0.RIP.DVD-WZ.ZUKO
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:3218145ED0F51DBB9901E0631F2660F442113557
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: windows6.1-KB976932-x86-INTL.exe
SIZE: 366,921,200 byte
SHA-1: 09BF1E3A21A3776B8649A1389E573889CD629761
MD5: 70266BE9D65B74D91C8B3C1C41CAB7CE
CRC: FBD574CC
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave0: English, French, German, Japanese, Spanish.
by WZ/ZUKO


MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.AND.SERVER.2008.R2.SERVICE.PACK-1.RTM.X64.WAVE0.RIP.DVD-WZ.ZUKO
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:CD0139FDD8F29B9D978F229B56209B10C739ED82
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: windows6.1-KB976932-X64-INTL.exe
SIZE: 669,654,640 byte
SHA-1:C543E3BAB37583345812D42A357A1263A203A014
MD5: FD98C34256B3DA21FB8A7E91EF1C1903
CRC: E3370464
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave0: English, French, German, Japanese, Spanish.
by WZ/ZUKO

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.AND.SERVER.2008.R2.SP1.RTM.WAVE1.DVD-WZT
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:B1B454E2D708FB5B8C2F3B237292DF21086E9C7F
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: 7601.17514.101119-1850_Update_Sp_Wave1-GRMSP1.1_DVD.iso
SIZE: 2,048,196,608 byte
SHA-1: F2ABA1102E18EAD08C78527AB422C09AB7D1F54C
MD5: 9B0EA3588B8C8ABD7EAD91BDFE6CE3F8
CRC: B07748AE
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave1: Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese-Hong Kong SAR, Chinese-Simplified, Chinese-Taiwan, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese-Brazil, Portuguese-Portugal, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish, and Ukrainian.
for x32|x64|IA64 systems
NOTE2: this is original M$ image.
by W.Z.T


MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.SERVICE.PACK-1.RTM.X86.WAVE1.RIP.DVD-WZ.ZUKO
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:EE4409661F6EAA94C96C79F04797B26B64488B7C
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe
SIZE: 563,934,504 byte
SHA-1: C3516BC5C9E69FEE6D9AC4F981F5B95977A8A2FA
MD5: 4BF28FC00D86C936C89E2D91EF46758B
CRC: 5EB0FA87
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave1: Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese-Hong Kong SAR, Chinese-Simplified, Chinese-Taiwan, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese-Brazil, Portuguese-Portugal, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish, and Ukrainian.
by WZ/ZUKO.

хотим обратить ваше внимание на то что в линейке серверов Server 2008 R2 нет 32 битных систем:

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.AND.SERVER.2008.R2.SERVICE.PACK-1.RTM.X64.WAVE1.RIP.DVD-WZ.ZUKO
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0B10E4E245E562F21F5BDF0B0B64AAB1086B9F0D
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe
SIZE: 947,070,088 byte
SHA-1: 74865EF2562006E51D7F9333B4A8D45B7A749DAB
MD5: 28D3932F714BF71D78E75D36AA2E0FB8
CRC: 068C79C6
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave1: Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese-Hong Kong SAR, Chinese-Simplified, Chinese-Taiwan, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese-Brazil, Portuguese-Portugal, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish, and Ukrainian.
by WZ/ZUKO.

Setnom said,
What's the difference between the different versions? I mean, between Wave 0 and wave 1? Is it just the languages?

Unless I am mistaken Wave0 is obviously beta while Wave1 is the final and Wave2 (if there is one) would most likely be an updated SP1. Kind of like SP1a with Windows XP

Setnom said,
What's the difference between the different versions? I mean, between Wave 0 and wave 1? Is it just the languages?

Languages

Leroy Jethro Gibbs said,

Unless I am mistaken Wave0 is obviously beta while Wave1 is the final and Wave2 (if there is one) would most likely be an updated SP1. Kind of like SP1a with Windows XP

Well I installed Wave 0 and it states in Windows that it's the SP1

As below....

http://i55.tinypic.com/6hlxt3.jpg

Leroy Jethro Gibbs said,

Unless I am mistaken Wave0 is obviously beta while Wave1 is the final and Wave2 (if there is one) would most likely be an updated SP1. Kind of like SP1a with Windows XP

Incorrect, it's just the languages.

neo158 said,

Incorrect, it's just the languages.

Correct, they issue the Languages in "waves" this has been the practice for 3-4 years now... Has nothing to do with Beta/RTM etc

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
Apparently it can't be slipstreamed like previous versions, so let's see what iso files we can expect if they ain't slipstreamed

I can confirm that you CAN slipstream, I did it today. After slip streaming SP1 with a Windows 7 Professional x64 the size came out to be just below 3.7 GB, and I can also confirm that it does install SP1 while Windows 7 installs

xbamaris said,

I can confirm that you CAN slipstream, I did it today. After slip streaming SP1 with a Windows 7 Professional x64 the size came out to be just below 3.7 GB, and I can also confirm that it does install SP1 while Windows 7 installs

Any tutorial link?

This, also, make sure its the 2.6 BETA version. Other wise you cant slipstream.

And make sure that it does slip stream correctly, at first I didnt do it correctly even though it LOOKS like it does, the way to tell if it does it correctly is if your ei.cfg says your correct windows version. (I.e Basic, Premium, Professional, Ultimate)

PsYcHoKiLLa said,
WZOR leaked it (In all varieties), I installed it. WIN!

Have you checked it's digital signature and is the digital segnature valid and from Microsoft? This ensures that it is from Microsoft and therefore has not been modified there after

Of course MS is going to say it is not the rtm. Whatever. I installed this from Wzor and they are pretty good at being correct. Sysinfo shows build as 6.1.7601.17514. Seems like the rtm to me. BFD if it is not the rtm. I will use acronis and restore back to the previous build.

"To NeoWin & WinRumors
Guys, next time you talk to Microsoft spokesperson please ask him if Microsoft realized internal Win7/R2 SP1 Final announcement? And then post his answer on your blogs please."

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That was from WZOR.net.


Also, I know its tough to understand what they really meant, but I think they meant realized = released

xbamaris said,
"To NeoWin & WinRumors
Guys, next time you talk to Microsoft spokesperson please ask him if Microsoft realized internal Win7/R2 SP1 Final announcement? And then post his answer on your blogs please."

Which likely means they have a contact in MS who has the internal mail that it had RTM'ed. Now, when it will go out to OEMs etc is a separate matter of little consequence to the binary hungry Windows 7 devotees out here :-).

''Microsoft has not released SP1 to OEMs at this time, though we are on track for a Q1 release, as we previously announced,'' she said.

Update: Neowin has been contacted by a Microsoft spokesperson. who stated Service Pack 1 is not ready for release to OEMs.

That's an interesting interpretation - they said they have not released SP1 at this time, not that it's not ready for release...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So this is NOT final? Lawls, it's my own damn fault for installing leaked software, so I guess I can't complain! Either way I have this hardcore OCD that makes me reinstall Windows once every 15 days anyway

Pharos said,
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So this is NOT final? Lawls, it's my own damn fault for installing leaked software, so I guess I can't complain! Either way I have this hardcore OCD that makes me reinstall Windows once every 15 days anyway

this is why we have system restore points! just click on the day you installed and your fine!!!

lflashl said,

this is why we have system restore points! just click on the day you installed and your fine!!!


Except I don't I have an SSD and I was told it is bad to leave it on. Never had to use System Restore.
But then again, I guess that explains my OCD

lflashl said,

this is why we have system restore points! just click on the day you installed and your fine!!!

System Restore doesn't always work. Especially if you get a virus/spyware infection.

4LeafLucky said,
System Restore doesn't always work. Especially if you get a virus/spyware infection.
But this isn't a virus/spyware infection.

xbamaris said,
The Update confuses and scares me.

So perhaps this isnt the RTM build?

The one leaked IS the RTM build. Microsoft probably just won't admit to it since it was leaked early.

I just installed it and my system seems to be a little faster. Maybe it is a placebo effect but at least my system is up to date.

paesan said,
I just installed it and my system seems to be a little faster. Maybe it is a placebo effect but at least my system is up to date.

Well, almost up to date. The final isn't out yet.

For those of us who already have Windows 7 and do all the updates regularly, does this even matter? Is there ANYTHING new for us?

jimmyfal said,
For those of us who already have Windows 7 and do all the updates regularly, does this even matter? Is there ANYTHING new for us?

Read the link to the Supersite above, there are some changes, but minor.

jimmyfal said,
For those of us who already have Windows 7 and do all the updates regularly, does this even matter? Is there ANYTHING new for us?

Yep, always:
a) New features (I care not about) better RDP experience etc - you can look them up
b) Apart from all hundreds of hotfixes you got on windows update there are a zillion more hotfixes/fixes which are slated to a SP as low priority - some are publicly available, but on support contract/request only and others never see the light of day before a SP - there are some lists for Vista etc SP - you'd be astonished how many fixes KB* are in a SP.

Quote: "Some sites have claimed that SP1 is complete and that Microsoft will release it to its OEM--i.e. PC maker--partners as soon as tomorrow. That is not the case. SP1 is imminent, but it's not quite done as I write this. It won't be long." - from the Winsupersite.

TDT said,
Quote: "Some sites have claimed that SP1 is complete and that Microsoft will release it to its OEM--i.e. PC maker--partners as soon as tomorrow. That is not the case. SP1 is imminent, but it's not quite done as I write this. It won't be long." - from the Winsupersite.

Link?

TDT said,
Quote: "Some sites have claimed that SP1 is complete and that Microsoft will release it to its OEM--i.e. PC maker--partners as soon as tomorrow. That is not the case. SP1 is imminent, but it's not quite done as I write this. It won't be long." - from the Winsupersite.

Today, however, a near-final version of the service pack leaked online for both 32-bit (x86) and 64-bit (x64) versions of the OSes, and I took the time to install the build on my main Windows 7 desktop.

http://www.winsupersite.com/ar...ndows-7-Service-Pack-1.aspx

So yeah, it's Paul vs WZOR is it Final or pre-Final?

The original ISO From MS just got leaked too...

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.AND.SERVER.2008.R2.SP1.RTM.WAVE0.DVD-WZT
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:04FC2CE34B7D7A0F1A63BC490DF2D18C0A88AB14
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: 7601.17514.101119-1850_Update_Sp_Wave0-GRMSP1.0_DVD.iso
SIZE: 1,545,795,584 byte
SHA-1: 9D85703A456B79FC295BE24E797367F032FE947B
MD5: AE635827CA85D35EAC36B44F5064CD4B
CRC: 59CF095B
NOTE: Microsoft has released Windows 7/Server 2008 R2 Service Pack 1 RTM build.
Wave0: English, French, German, Japanese, Spanish.
for x32|x64|IA64 systems
NOTE2: this is original M$ image.

sonnu said,
What does this image contain? All three different SP1s for x32, x64 and IA64?

Downloaded it and that's what it contains.

Installed it earlier. No problems so far, probably my mind playing tricks but seems slightly smoother. Anyhow, whether todays leak is the RTM build or not, doesn't matter to me. Like you daniel_rh, also have my eye on getting a SSD drive soon too

Somebody knows when the full image of Windows 7 with SP1 integrated will be available? I hope before I get my new SDD HD! X-)

SHoTTa35 said,

That would assume he is infallible, unless he has some way to prove that i'll just say, wait and see.

interesting we have one group YES it is and another saying NO...

Installed. It's the Gen-u-wine Article. (In my case, I grabbed the x64 version.)

By Wednesday, I should have an initial breakage report.

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.SERVICE.PACK-1.RTM.X86.WAVE1.RIP.DVD-WZ.ZUKO
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:EE4409661F6EAA94C96C79F04797B26B64488B7C
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: windows6.1-KB976932-X86.exe
SIZE: 563,934,504 byte
SHA-1: C3516BC5C9E69FEE6D9AC4F981F5B95977A8A2FA
MD5: 4BF28FC00D86C936C89E2D91EF46758B
CRC: 5EB0FA87

MICROSOFT.WINDOWS.7.AND.SERVER.2008.R2.SERVICE.PACK-1.RTM.X64.WAVE1.RIP.DVD-WZ.ZUKO
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:0B10E4E245E562F21F5BDF0B0B64AAB1086B9F0D
BUILD: 7601.17514.101119-1850
FILE: windows6.1-KB976932-X64.exe
SIZE: 947,070,088 byte
SHA-1: 74865EF2562006E51D7F9333B4A8D45B7A749DAB
MD5: 28D3932F714BF71D78E75D36AA2E0FB8
CRC: 068C79C6

Wave1: Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese-Hong Kong SAR, Chinese-Simplified, Chinese-Taiwan, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hebrew, Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Latvian, Lithuanian, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese-Brazil, Portuguese-Portugal, Romanian, Russian, Serbian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, Swedish, Thai, Turkish, and Ukrainian.

I wish they would hold it and wait for IE9 to be ready and force it into the pack.
As for no improvements... I would imagin a few will be there such as how well it utilizes the read/write times which would increase performance in loading and unloading or all around daily activities.

sava700 said,
I wish they would hold it and wait for IE9 to be ready and force it into the pack.

Won't happen. Given that businesses would need to test IE9's compatibility with their work, MS would be stupid to offer that. Which is one reason why MS has never released IE integrated in SPs.

sava700 said,
I wish they would hold it and wait for IE9 to be ready and force it into the pack.
As for no improvements... I would imagin a few will be there such as how well it utilizes the read/write times which would increase performance in loading and unloading or all around daily activities.

They can't do that...remember the EU bundling IE lawsuit? (Also it's not a good idea to add ie 9 to the SP1, because this may prevent businesses that rely on older versions of ie to not install the SP1).

sava700 said,
I wish they would hold it and wait for IE9 to be ready and force it into the pack.
As for no improvements... I would imagin a few will be there such as how well it utilizes the read/write times which would increase performance in loading and unloading or all around daily activities.

Nope...no IE 9 in a Service Pack.

Not that I have anything against IE 9 (it's my default browser), but Microsoft tried that trick before (with Windows NT4 SP 5, which required IE 4) and got hammered for it. And that was *despite* IE 4 being a much better-behaved browser than even IE 3.x (on NT 4, that is).

briangw said,

Won't happen. Given that businesses would need to test IE9's compatibility with their work, MS would be stupid to offer that. Which is one reason why MS has never released IE integrated in SPs.

I know that. Actually i hadn't had this idea before but it would be sleek if they included it *with a checkbox disabled by default*.

thartist said,

I know that. Actually i hadn't had this idea before but it would be sleek if they included it *with a checkbox disabled by default*.

I don't think that would fly either. As stated above, the EU would have a hissy fit, not to mention the US Fed would probably find some way to institute a lawsuit.

sava700 said,
I wish they would hold it and wait for IE9 to be ready and force it into the pack.
As for no improvements... I would imagin a few will be there such as how well it utilizes the read/write times which would increase performance in loading and unloading or all around daily activities.

+1

I completely agree with this dispite negative consequences.

Dont want it? Make every update in the SP avaliable as standalone.

Aramis said,
Nobody remember the AVX support? Maybe Sandy Bridge/Bulldozer can take some adventage from it.

i do. apparently the only OS which support AVX (W7 SP1)

touch luck for vista/XP

there's no reason to be so hot n' horny for this, there are no improvements for Win 7 (not like it needs any bettering) it's just most patches rolled up into one SP...people are way too excited over nothing!!

djnv2010 said,
there's no reason to be so hot n' horny for this, there are no improvements for Win 7 (not like it needs any bettering) it's just most patches rolled up into one SP...people are way too excited over nothing!!
I'll get hot n' horny over whatever I want whether it has your approval or not!

Looks like it leaked, there's a torrent for it now from the usual sources that i can't post here. They are uploading now to file sharing sites.

SHoTTa35 said,
Looks like it leaked, there's a torrent for it now from the usual sources that i can't post here. They are uploading now to file sharing sites.

nope not yet it should be leaked soon either today or about tomorrow hope it's out soon

101119 - i hope this is a joke. Who cares for something compiled in November? I asume that even if i install this SP1 i will still need to install all possible updates released in December, January and propably also February, depending of SP1 availability to general public... Epic Fail.

6205 said,
101119 - i hope this is a joke. Who cares for something compiled in November? I asume that even if i install this SP1 i will still need to install all possible updates released in December, January and propably also February, depending of SP1 availability to general public... Epic Fail.

Oh no. Something compiled in November 2010 updating something that was compiled July/August 2009.

6205 said,
101119 - i hope this is a joke. Who cares for something compiled in November? I asume that even if i install this SP1 i will still need to install all possible updates released in December, January and propably also February, depending of SP1 availability to general public... Epic Fail.
Sure, but you won't need to install the 625 updates released prior to November.

November is actually pretty good. Only someone who doesn't understand the scale of Windows would call that an "epic fail."

6205 said,
101119 - i hope this is a joke. Who cares for something compiled in November? I asume that even if i install this SP1 i will still need to install all possible updates released in December, January and propably also February, depending of SP1 availability to general public... Epic Fail.

That Is The Same Build Number That Andre Ziegler (In The Microsoft Tech Net Forums) quoted 2 me when he told me earlier this month that Service Pack 1 was all ready RTM!

Critical Error said,
Should I uninstall my SP1 v.178 (I think its beta) before installing SP1?

Well yeah, you'll definitely have to and it's most likely a beta. The latest leaked version was v.741 so an old beta at that.

Stew Gilray said,
I'm stunned I've not seen any "beta" versions doing the rounds.

are you serious? there has been a beta version and rc version released..

The Protagonist said,

are you serious? there has been a beta version and rc version released..

I was wondering about that comment as well, considering I got both via TechNet, NOT Microsoft Connect.

Stew Gilray said,
I'm stunned I've not seen any "beta" versions doing the rounds.
Nor any IE 9 builds out there. Not like it used to be. Or maybe since Win 7 everything is working so well, there's not much interest in betas et. al.

raskren said,
Slipstreamable?

Last I heard...you can slipstream the update...but I am going to wait till they release it to the stores as Windows 7 with SP1 included. I'm in no hurry.

texasghost said,

Last I heard...you can slipstream the update...but I am going to wait till they release it to the stores as Windows 7 with SP1 included. I'm in no hurry.

You're planning to pay full price for a copy of Windows 7 (with SP1 this time) again? Or are you able to get it free with proof of your existing licence somehow?

Salty Wagyu said,

You're planning to pay full price for a copy of Windows 7 (with SP1 this time) again? Or are you able to get it free with proof of your existing licence somehow?

Probably he still haven't bought Win 7...

sviola said,

Probably he still haven't bought Win 7...

He is likely referring to PCs that still have XP/Vista on them.

SP1 will also be available as a disc image (ISO format) for burning/install on multiple computers.

sviola said,

Probably he still haven't bought Win 7...

I never buy the full release when it first comes out..I wait till the SP1 comes available..then buy the full version with sp1.

Isn't this just mostly a bugfix release? I'm not sure what the attention leading up to it is all about. Any new notable features?

Edit: I mean for Windows 7, not Windows 2008 R2.

Northgrove said,
Isn't this just mostly a bugfix release? I'm not sure what the attention leading up to it is all about. Any new notable features?

Edit: I mean for Windows 7, not Windows 2008 R2.

No new features but general bug fixes yes. I'll be glad they day they get incorporated so i don't have to manually install sperate ones (not on Windows Update).

SHoTTa35 said,

No new features but general bug fixes yes. I'll be glad they day they get incorporated so i don't have to manually install sperate ones (not on Windows Update).

I'm curious if it might actually have (a) new feature(s). When showing off their new touch mouse at CES it had an expose like feature. This begs the question on when that functionality will make it's way out to consumers. It'd seem like it would either be with the service pack that's about to come out or with the drivers for the mouse itself.

Bengal34 said,

I'm curious if it might actually have (a) new feature(s). When showing off their new touch mouse at CES it had an expose like feature. This begs the question on when that functionality will make it's way out to consumers. It'd seem like it would either be with the service pack that's about to come out or with the drivers for the mouse itself.

That Expose feature isn't new. It's part of the Microsoft Mouse software.

Azies said,
Is there a way I can get ahold of it on the 15th? Really would like to get the upgrade out of the way.

Why can't you wait like everyone else and install it when it's a convient time for you ?

Ilyes said,
Can't wait for this. Where can we get a list of all of its features?

Windows 7 will get Remote FX, improving remote desktop even more. Right now RDP is already way better than what you can get with OS X or Linux (they are still streaming bitmaps over the network).

Deviate_X said,
Windows 7 will get Remote FX, improving remote desktop even more. Right now RDP is already way better than what you can get with OS X or Linux (they are still streaming bitmaps over the network).

Is it still using the Citrix technology or have they migrated to their own native protocol?

Regarding Mac OS X - it doesn't have a terminal service protocol like Windows does and Linux, well, they're still contending with X-Server that is horrible even if you pipe it through ssh using compression to boost performance over a narrow bandwidth. There is always Tarantella from Oracle but costs and arm and a leg.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Is it still using the Citrix technology or have they migrated to their own native protocol?

Regarding Mac OS X - it doesn't have a terminal service protocol like Windows does and Linux, well, they're still contending with X-Server that is horrible even if you pipe it through ssh using compression to boost performance over a narrow bandwidth. There is always Tarantella from Oracle but costs and arm and a leg.

RDP hasn't been based on Citrix technologies since Windows 2000. Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Services edition used Citrix technology but after that it was a complete Microsoft implementation.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Is it still using the Citrix technology or have they migrated to their own native protocol?

Regarding Mac OS X - it doesn't have a terminal service protocol like Windows does and Linux, well, they're still contending with X-Server that is horrible even if you pipe it through ssh using compression to boost performance over a narrow bandwidth. There is always Tarantella from Oracle but costs and arm and a leg.

The Citrix technology is, in fact, derived from older Microsoft technology (it was originally WinFrame), and stems from long-term cross-licensing agreements between the two companies (similar agreements exist between Microsoft and quite a few companies, such as Symantec and Diskeeper, that are of long duration).

PGHammer said,

The Citrix technology is, in fact, derived from older Microsoft technology (it was originally WinFrame), and stems from long-term cross-licensing agreements between the two companies (similar agreements exist between Microsoft and quite a few companies, such as Symantec and Diskeeper, that are of long duration).

WinFrame was a multi-user version of Windows NT 3.51 which was fully repackaged by Citrix Systems. At this stage of the product development Citrix Systems licensed the Windows NT 3.51 base operating system from Microsoft. The core development that Citrix delivered was the MultiWin engine. This allowed multiple users to logon and execute applications on a WinFrame server. Citrix was to later license the MultiWin technology to Microsoft, forming the basis of Microsoft's Terminal Services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrix_WinFrame

Deviate_X said,

WinFrame was a multi-user version of Windows NT 3.51 which was fully repackaged by Citrix Systems. At this stage of the product development Citrix Systems licensed the Windows NT 3.51 base operating system from Microsoft. The core development that Citrix delivered was the MultiWin engine. This allowed multiple users to logon and execute applications on a WinFrame server. Citrix was to later license the MultiWin technology to Microsoft, forming the basis of Microsoft's Terminal Services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citrix_WinFrame

Someone's going to go back even further and bring up OS/Who, I mean OS/2

GP007 said,
The sooner the better, then they can get to work on other things that also need updating.

Yes, because Microsoft has only one programmer and he can obviously only work on one thing at a time.

TCLN Ryster said,

Yes, because Microsoft has only one programmer and he can obviously only work on one thing at a time.

Yes that's what it seems like at times, otherwise how do you explain such a big company taking forever to update little things?

GP007 said,

Yes that's what it seems like at times, otherwise how do you explain such a big company taking forever to update little things?


Little things *rolleyes*

GP007 said,

Yes that's what it seems like at times, otherwise how do you explain such a big company taking forever to update little things?

Patch Tuesday?

GP007 said,

Yes that's what it seems like at times, otherwise how do you explain such a big company taking forever to update little things?

They have to consider every hardware out there and test with it, and its not a easy task. Also considering 32bit and 64bit just adds to complexity. Because a SP is considered to patch things rather than breaking, they cant hurry until every piece is thoroughly tested.

GP007 said,

Yes that's what it seems like at times, otherwise how do you explain such a big company taking forever to update little things?

In software development, there is rarely such a thing as a "little thing" because systems in code are so complex and entertwined. These things need a lot of time for testing, and when you have a userbase the size of Microsoft's, quality is even more important.