Rumour: Windows Phone 7 update coming in February

Windows Phone 7 users should mark February 2011 in their calendars, if a source interviewed by Business Insider is to be believed.

Citing the ''head of a company that develops mobile apps'', the site claimed a ''significant update'' to Microsoft's mobile OS is slated for release in around eight weeks time.

Topping the list of features and changes in the update is much-reported copy and paste functionality which was last week rolled out to select developer devices. Microsoft has repeatedly confirmed that copy and paste will be coming to consumer devices in ''early 2011''.

Business Insider's nameless source also claimed the update could make the Windows Phone platform more attractive to the enterprise market by adding a way for companies to deploy in-house apps to phones without first submitting them to the marketplace. Microsoft is also reportedly preparing to relax restrictions on what apps are allowed to do within the operating system, with Business Insider speculating that apps could be allowed to download files directly without going through the browser.

The Business Insider article adds to growing speculation over the contents of the first Windows Phone 7 update. Last month developer Chris Walsh, best known for his work on the ChevronWP7 unlocker tool, claimed to have early access to the update, which he labelled ''massive''. Mr Walshie promised to release screenshots of the update, but nearly a fortnight on, they had failed to materialise. Microsoft is remaining tight-lipped about the content of the update beyond the aforementioned copy and paste functionality.

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According to another sourced (winrumors), there will be two updates. One at Consumer Electronics Show (CES) that will add copy and paste. The second update is said to be unveil at Mobile World Congress and is said to be huge.

Im having a couple problems with WP7 so far...here are a couple...
1) The lock screen lags when you type in the password (takes two seconds after typing password for it to unlock)
2) The ringtone i chose isnt playing, sometimes it plays the one i had on last, or the one before that.
3) Zune WiFi sync isnt working. I hate having to transfer the cable from the wall charger behind my bed to the PC

Things that i want to see in WP7 are....

1) When you are in a conversation you can scroll left or right to get to the next conversation in your list (right now you have to press the back button, then go to the next one)
2) you get to choose whether you have a wide tile or a small tile (so more customization to the tile sizes)

Well thats sadly it...(odd)...yea im fine with everything else it has, it really satisfies my every need.

I hope they improve the browser. I think their biggest mistake was not tacking on media query support. I understand the whole time constraint thing and accept the lack of HTML5 video support (although it's still a nuisance), but supporting media queries would have been such an easy tweak.

The two main methods for presenting users with mobile formatted sites are media queries and browser sniffing. Browser sniffing is out of MS's control (unless they took the extreme step of mimicking the iOS browser) so I can't really blame them for sites that don't display a proper mobile version because they employ browser sniffing. Media queries however are in Microsoft's control and MS could have easily fixed a massive amount of sites by including this feature. I can't see how it would have required that much effort, all you would need to do is look for a string of text in the head and if found load the stylesheet it reference. I can't imagine it taking more than 5 lines of code.

I agree with derekaw for some points, but moreso because I feel that MS arrived to the game too late. I owned a Zune HD for about a year and got rid of it because of the flakiness of it, and the fact it did not have a lot of what the iPod touch had (not to mention the inability to connect to hidden, wireless networks) and up to the point I sold it, there was still no update to do so. I considered buying a Windows 7 phone during that Amazon wireless deal but instead went with a Droid Incredible because of the established market it was in.

But, if history has taught us anything, it's that you get into a crapshoot when you early adopt something. Who knows, maybe I'll switch in two years if Windows phone does better, but I just don't see it right now.

Wait, you passed on WinPhone7 because you had reservations about future updates then went with a non-Nexus Android device?

It seems like you passed on a device with an uncertain update future and bought a device with an update future that's known to be slow, at the whims of the carriers and possibly short lived. The reality of the update cycle for Android devices is already what the worst case scenario could be. In other words, if the WinPhone7 update cycle was as bad as it could be it would at worst be equal to the current update experience on non-Nexus Android devices.

geoken said,
Wait, you passed on WinPhone7 because you had reservations about future updates then went with a non-Nexus Android device?

It seems like you passed on a device with an uncertain update future and bought a device with an update future that's known to be slow, at the whims of the carriers and possibly short lived. The reality of the update cycle for Android devices is already what the worst case scenario could be. In other words, if the WinPhone7 update cycle was as bad as it could be it would at worst be equal to the current update experience on non-Nexus Android devices.

Actually no. I went with a device that has been out longer, can be rooted to get the update (but it most likely will get the update), and am in an area now where Verizon is one of two providers in NW MN. I've been disappointed with the Zune and MS powered phone/PDAs in the past. Like I said, I'll wait for the bugs to get worked out and in two years will check back in but given the past history with MS in the PDA and music player area, I'm not that impressed.

Here in au there is no buzz about Win Phone 7, none at all and I don't know anyone with one. I used one for a minute at a phone store a week or two ago and I was not impressed at all.

MS will end up with some market share but it wont be spectacular. The phones are not cool, no cool factor at all, the hardware is boring and uninspiring, MS are trapped with the flashy graphics model, Windows fan boys will run out and get one and I think people who don't know any better will end up with one too.

we most hang around with different type of people, im from AU aswell and about 1/3 of my mates have a windows phone.. im somewhat tempted to get one but im trying not to spend at the moment

derekaw said,
Here in au there is no buzz about Win Phone 7, none at all and I don't know anyone with one. I used one for a minute at a phone store a week or two ago and I was not impressed at all.

MS will end up with some market share but it wont be spectacular. The phones are not cool, no cool factor at all, the hardware is boring and uninspiring, MS are trapped with the flashy graphics model, Windows fan boys will run out and get one and I think people who don't know any better will end up with one too.

Funny, it's a lot of the same hardware that runs assorted Android phones (Samsung Focus is pretty much a Samsung Galaxy S for example), and all of them outperform the lastest iPhone hardware. The fact that you immediately played the fanboy card pretty much shows you had no point to make but serving up some Haterade.

looking forward to see what comes of it. i hope they give us folders in the apps list! so sick of scrolling like a mofo to see everything.

i also hope they give you an option with the search button so you can either go to bing or do a full local search through the device, i.e. email, contacts, music and so forth. that would be cool!

phunkymunky said,
looking forward to see what comes of it. i hope they give us folders in the apps list! so sick of scrolling like a mofo to see everything.

i also hope they give you an option with the search button so you can either go to bing or do a full local search through the device, i.e. email, contacts, music and so forth. that would be cool!

I dunno about folders in the app list, though it's possible, but maybe a better thing to do is let you make hubs/folders on the start screen instead?

GP007 said,
I always expected an update in January though, so are we talking the same rumored update here or some 2nd one?
Probably the same one. Microsoft never specified a release date for the update, instead they just said "early 2011". It was rumored to be released on Jan 2011, so I guess that just changed to Feb 2011 lol.

/- Razorfold said,
Probably the same one. Microsoft never specified a release date for the update, instead they just said "early 2011". It was rumored to be released on Jan 2011, so I guess that just changed to Feb 2011 lol.

personally i would rather them take there time and cram as much fun as they can possible into this one update... I dont want them to accidentally leave a silly bug in the OS for the second update.

/- Razorfold said,
Probably the same one. Microsoft never specified a release date for the update, instead they just said "early 2011". It was rumored to be released on Jan 2011, so I guess that just changed to Feb 2011 lol.

I know they didn't say anything date wise but everyones talking about a Verizon WP7 roll out in January, and I just figured the first update would also add CDMA support along with C&P and whatever else.

GP007 said,
I always expected an update in January though, so are we talking the same rumored update here or some 2nd one?

This is second update designed for a demo at MWc in Feb

Lachlan said,

personally i would rather them take there time and cram as much fun as they can possible into this one update... I dont want them to accidentally leave a silly bug in the OS for the second update.

Yes, I can wait for Copy&Paste and all that stuff, I want them to do it right.

im pumped.. Only problem I am having with mine is that the marketplace app has been a tiny bit finicky. It did not work for a few days but i just restarted it and it worked fine. Other then that I love it completely.

Lachlan said,
im pumped.. Only problem I am having with mine is that the marketplace app has been a tiny bit finicky. It did not work for a few days but i just restarted it and it worked fine. Other then that I love it completely.

Ive had quirky market app weirdness (updates to apps not downloading so stuck in an alert loop, have to remove the app and re download it).

But my main issue is the market has no search settings, I do not want to see music and video when browsing for an app, also I want to be able to search for keywords app devs have submitted and not be required to know the app name (and no the categories are not good enough).

I would like a native messenger app, and more control over the settings for syncing to skydrive (at the moment the pics it syncs are made smaller - I want them to sync in full res - but this is just one instance of a setting option that isn't there).

I'm not trying to sound all negative though, on the whole I'm loving my Omnia 7!

But copy/paste, nice one.

But my main issue is the market has no search settings, I do not want to see music and video when browsing for an app, also I want to be able to search for keywords app devs have submitted and not be required to know the app name (and no the categories are not good enough).
You can always use an online marketplace browser such as http://www.marketplacebrowser.com or http://www.appsfuze.com/ .

Not an official solution by any means, but it works.

Lachlan said,
im pumped.. Only problem I am having with mine is that the marketplace app has been a tiny bit finicky. It did not work for a few days but i just restarted it and it worked fine. Other then that I love it completely.

I get marketplace problems on my Focus... it's weird. Sometimes it freezes up, or locks... but I'm able to go back to the start. Only way to work it again is restart.

Same here, love WP7 so much.

Lachlan said,
im pumped.. Only problem I am having with mine is that the marketplace app has been a tiny bit finicky. It did not work for a few days but i just restarted it and it worked fine. Other then that I love it completely.

Just like windows, restart solves most of the problems

duddit2 said,


But my main issue is the market has no search settings, I do not want to see music and video when browsing for an app, also I want to be able to search for keywords app devs have submitted and not be required to know the app name (and no the categories are not good .

press the search button while in marketplace, it brings up marketplace search. didnt think it would at first because thought it was just dedicated to bing, guess not

duddit2 said,

But my main issue is the market has no search settings, I do not want to see music and video when browsing for an app, also I want to be able to search for keywords app devs have submitted and not be required to know the app name (and no the categories are not good enough).

There is a marketplace search function, go into market place, then push the magnifying glass button .

Loving my WP7 but i can't wait for the additional APIs for some of the better apps to be made.

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