Russian Orthodox Christians declare Apple logo ‘anti-Christian', replace it with cross

Apple has often found itself being unflatteringly compared to a ‘cult’, with millions of brainwashed followers slavishly devoted to supporting and praising its every move. Of course, this is a gross misrepresentation of a company that simply creates products that many consumers desire and aspire to own, but such sober assessments of Apple’s status never silence the comparisons of the company to a religious institution.

Curiously, however, recent developments in Russia depict Apple as anything but divine, as some Russian Orthodox Christians have apparently taken offence over the company’s logo, believing it to be intolerably evocative of the ‘forbidden fruit’ from the Garden of Eden in the Bible’s first book of Genesis.

Russia’s Interfax news agency reports that “some Orthodox believers, including priests” have begun obscuring the company’s “anti-Christian” logo on devices that they purchased from Apple, replacing the logo with crucifixes instead.

These believers are said to have taken issue with the bitten apple being a potent anti-Christian symbol, supposedly representing the ‘original sin’ committed by Adam and Eve, in which they each ate fruit from the tree that God had forbidden them to touch. Conversely, the cross is said to embody the redemption of mankind from that sin through the death and subsequent resurrection of Christ.

Religious community site, Christian Today, pointed to new laws making their way through Russia’s parliament as a possible indication that this state of affairs will only get worse for Apple. Legislation currently under consideration there proposes to crack down on blasphemy and “insults targeting religious, spiritual or national values”, and President Vladimir Putin – who was re-elected this year with extensive and very public support from the Russian Orthodox Church, throughout his campaign – is believed to be a staunch supporter of these new laws.

Given the rising prominence and influence of ultra-conservative Orthodox Christians in Russia, it’s claimed that things could get difficult for Apple there, should greater numbers of believers adopt a similiar mentality against the company’s branding.

Something tells me they probably wouldn’t see the funny side of making a joke at this point about the ‘Jesus Phone’.

Source: Interfax | via Logo Design Love

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Sergey Hudiev said,
I'm Russian Orthodox Christian and I have to say that this news is fake. No names, no real pictures - why you guys are so gullible?

I'm a Greek Orthodox Christian and I've to say, you know... They must have read somewhere 1-2 statements of 1-2 Ultra Orthodox 80+ years old priests and they made it big deal due to complete misrepresentation...

Meanwhile, they don't write that the vast majority in such countries ( 95% in Greece ) are Orthodox Christians who don't even know what are they talking about...

Sergey Hudiev said,
I'm Russian Orthodox Christian and I have to say that this news is fake. No names, no real pictures - why you guys are so gullible?

The original interfax story is probably legit. It just reports that

"Interfax-Religion has learned that some Orthodox believers, including priests, have replaced the apple logo with images of crosses."

That's it, the whole story.

Now, the guys at christiantoday have certainly spunned it out of the proportions by saying "Apple logo may become illegal in Russia".

Maybe they don't know Isaac Newton... Well, the Muslims thought the "Innocence of Muslims" movie was about the prophet Mohammed. It ended up being about Mohammed the smoke shop owner.

In the modern world everyone is so touchy and can be easily offended by pretty much anything, especially "minorities".

Surely there are better reasons to be offended by Apple. And if you were offended, isn't the obvious solution simply not to use them? This sounds like one lot of zealots are just jealous that someone else has a more effective cult. Maybe they should just switch to the Apple one since it's more in vogue anyway.

As soon as I read the title I thought "because the apple is the icon of the first blasphemy". I can follow their logic, but the logic is based around a story that, let's be honest, never happened.

As for putting a cross on everything... I can't remember which comedian said it but if Jesus came back for his 2nd coming, and saw everyone wearing the cross, surely he'd be "Seriously? Cheers guys, insensitive much!"

Russia's Interfax news agency reports that “some Orthodox believers, including priests” have begun obscuring the company's “anti-Christian” logo on devices that they purchased from Apple, replacing the logo with crucifixes instead.

"We are now also receiving reports of groups of Orthodox believers demanding regulations to be put in place banning apples, the fruits, from being sold."

Well, would make just about as much sense anyway...

I never understood why Christians consider the crucifix to be a religious symbol. It's supposed to be a torture device isn't it? As for the forbidden fruit, it wasn't an apple but a wheat stalk.

deadonthefloor said,

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
Actually I do. The person who wrote Genesis probably thought that a wheat stalk sounds boring and why would anyone wan't to eat it. So he depicted the fruit as an Apple.

gzAsher said,
Actually I do. The person who wrote Genesis probably thought that a wheat stalk sounds boring and why would anyone wan't to eat it. So he depicted the fruit as an Apple.

As deadonthefloor said. Nowhere in Genesis is the fruit ever named, but most experts believe that it would more likely have been a pomegranate or fig (apples are not native to that region, but pomegranates and figs are). The whole apple thing came mostly from European painters who depicted the fruit that way since it was one they were familiar with. Where are you getting this wheat stalk nonsense?

roadwarrior said,

As deadonthefloor said. Nowhere in Genesis is the fruit ever named, but most experts believe that it would more likely have been a pomegranate or fig (apples are not native to that region, but pomegranates and figs are). The whole apple thing came mostly from European painters who depicted the fruit that way since it was one they were familiar with. Where are you getting this wheat stalk nonsense?
Yeah I looked and it doesn't name the fruit in the Quran either but since childhood we've always learned it was a wheat stalk. And what is this region you're referring to? Because this whole incident happened on Paradise and then they were both exiled "down" to earth.

gzAsher said,
I never understood why Christians consider the crucifix to be a religious symbol. It's supposed to be a torture device isn't it? As for the forbidden fruit, it wasn't an apple but a wheat stalk.

Because, through the cross, Jesus proved the world there is no death and we are immortal, thus our belief is true and proven by his ressurection. His ressurrection practically gave life to Christianism.

Mortis said,

Because, through the cross, Jesus proved the world there is no death and we are immortal, thus our belief is true and proven by his ressurection. His ressurrection practically gave life to Christianism.
We are immortal?

gzAsher said,
Yeah I looked and it doesn't name the fruit in the Quran either but since childhood we've always learned it was a wheat stalk. And what is this region you're referring to? Because this whole incident happened on Paradise and then they were both exiled "down" to earth.

I'm guessing that since you mentioned the Quran that you are Muslim? If so, then you probably have different teachings on the subject. In Christian belief (well, most Christian denominations, not sure about all of them, and likely Judaism as well), the Garden of Eden was on Earth, and located somewhere in the area of Iraq (since it specifically mentions the Tigris and Euphrates rivers). That is the region I was referring to.

Mortis said,

Because, through the cross, Jesus proved the world there is no death and we are immortal, thus our belief is true and proven by his ressurection. His ressurrection practically gave life to Christianism.

But how do you prove that he was resurrected?

I find it funny that even though they now think apple has some sort of anti-Christian agenda thanks to its logo, they are still not willing to give up the apple products.

Were it any other company i can't help buy imagine they would have just boycotted them and started buying some other product. Seems their devotion to apple may be testing their faith a little

A340600 said,
A gross misrepresentation of Apple as a cult?

The Church of Apple™ sending cease-and-desist letters to other religious organizations claiming they invented the concept of organized religion.

metallithrax said,
If they were that against the image, they wouldn't buy the product in the first place.

Too good to resist, just like the apple back then.

GS:mac

Glassed Silver said,

Too good to resist, just like the apple back then.

GS:mac

Well,
I am still trying to find the apple in Genesis. Seems like my Bible differs from a Russian one since there isn't one single line saying that apples are forbidden!

For all we know, there may have been a whole bunch of apple trees in Eden.

metallithrax said,
If they were that against the image, they wouldn't buy the product in the first place.

They want to show their power, isn't that obvious?

Oh great! More fodder for the anti-Christian bloc that infests this site. Make no mistake, the intent of this "story", is to ridicule Christians specifically, to paint them as unreasonable fanatics by dredging up supposed confirmation of that presupposition. "Look what those bibul readers doing.. they so crazy!"
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"

mzta cody said,
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"
AtheistWin would be an even better name.

mzta cody said,
Oh great! More fodder for the anti-Christian bloc that infests this site. Make no mistake, the intent of this "story", is to ridicule Christians specifically, to paint them as unreasonable fanatics by dredging up supposed confirmation of that presupposition. "Look what those bibul readers doing.. they so crazy!"
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"

*sigh*

Yes, right...

GS:mac

mzta cody said,
Oh great! More fodder for the anti-Christian bloc that infests this site. Make no mistake, the intent of this "story", is to ridicule Christians specifically, to paint them as unreasonable fanatics by dredging up supposed confirmation of that presupposition. "Look what those bibul readers doing.. they so crazy!"
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"

As if anyone should need to be encouraged to ridicule this kind of stupidity. If you have a problem complain to the crazy fools within your own ranks that are responsible for the stupidity, not those that laugh at it for exactly what it is.

mzta cody said,
Oh great! More fodder for the anti-Christian bloc that infests this site. Make no mistake, the intent of this "story", is to ridicule Christians specifically, to paint them as unreasonable fanatics by dredging up supposed confirmation of that presupposition. "Look what those bibul readers doing.. they so crazy!"
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"

Please put the tinfoil back on and resume your medication.

mzta cody said,
...

Orthodox Sects are always a little more intense.
You can have your belief system fine and good. Don't get upset when you're living in a world that doesn't always agree with you.
That is all.

mzta cody said,
Oh great! More fodder for the anti-Christian bloc that infests this site. Make no mistake, the intent of this "story", is to ridicule Christians specifically, to paint them as unreasonable fanatics by dredging up supposed confirmation of that presupposition. "Look what those bibul readers doing.. they so crazy!"
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"

This kind of stories, including Atheism etc are selling well these days... Copy them, no matter how accurate and how exactly you gonna present it, and you're good to go...

mzta cody said,
Oh great! More fodder for the anti-Christian bloc that infests this site. Make no mistake, the intent of this "story", is to ridicule Christians specifically, to paint them as unreasonable fanatics by dredging up supposed confirmation of that presupposition. "Look what those bibul readers doing.. they so crazy!"
Why don't they re-name this site "AtheoWin- the site where unprofessional atheism IS better"

I've been reading Neowin for years and years. I've never seen anything close to your accusations occur here.

If the article referenced Islamic extremists opposing Apple would you still feel obligated to make such allegations? Doubtful.

in many previous posts i have stated that i have yet to find a a hard core Apple fan... even to the day, i have probably a couple hundred associate's that (if and when its appropriate i ask) use apple phones, and NONE give a care about how makes it. I think this Apple fan boys, iSheep, or what ever you call them is as elusive as a Yeti. To the masses its a myth and only too a few is real.

rippleman said,
I think this Apple fan boys, iSheep, or what ever you call them is as elusive as a Yeti. To the masses its a myth and only too a few is real.

I think you just live in an alternative universe from the rest of us. Or are simply lying.

rippleman said,
in many previous posts i have stated that i have yet to find a a hard core Apple fan... even to the day, i have probably a couple hundred associate's that (if and when its appropriate i ask) use apple phones, and NONE give a care about how makes it. I think this Apple fan boys, iSheep, or what ever you call them is as elusive as a Yeti. To the masses its a myth and only too a few is real.

Same real life experience here as well apart from one girl I know.
She's rocking a Blackberry now if I'm not mistaken though lol...

Anyhow, the "iSheep" are generally overestimated in terms of their population size lol

But haters gonna hate, what do you want to do.

GS:mac

NoClipMode said,

I think you just live in an alternative universe from the rest of us. Or are simply lying.

Nah, I would say that they are pretty elusive once you unplug yourself from the Internet. Anecdotal, but I can only think of two people that I know who act like the guys waiting in line in those Samsung ads. Everyone else uses their iPhones and Android devices without giving a crap about what other people use.

I mean, there are more important things to worry about. I find that the people who give too much of a damn about what I'm using or how I spend my money are really working though some emotional insecurity issues.

omgben said,

Nah, I would say that they are pretty elusive once you unplug yourself from the Internet. Anecdotal, but I can only think of two people that I know who act like the guys waiting in line in those Samsung ads. Everyone else uses their iPhones and Android devices without giving a crap about what other people use.

I mean, there are more important things to worry about. I find that the people who give too much of a damn about what I'm using or how I spend my money are really working though some emotional insecurity issues.


I know way more mocking Android users who think they have to be proud of "knowing better" than iPhone users.

GS:mac

Glassed Silver said,

I know way more mocking Android users who think they have to be proud of "knowing better" than iPhone users.

GS:mac

Yeah, I guess I'm fortunate enough not to have to hear it. But, unfortunately, since it's election season, the mocking people I know are Republicans or Democrats.

rippleman said,
in many previous posts i have stated that i have yet to find a a hard core Apple fan...

I have a couple friends who keep telling me I should get a Mac, that Windows is super slow (they base this "fact" off seeing one cheap 5-year-old laptop), etc. Nothing about smartphones yet, though.

Glassed Silver said,

Same real life experience here as well apart from one girl I know.
She's rocking a Blackberry now if I'm not mistaken though lol...

Anyhow, the "iSheep" are generally overestimated in terms of their population size lol

But haters gonna hate, what do you want to do.

GS:mac

There is 5,000,000 iSheep this year. Those are the ones who gave Apple's record sales on its 1st weekend.... lol /s

rippleman said,
in many previous posts i have stated that i have yet to find a a hard core Apple fan....

How about the people this story is written about?
After all, even though they find the logo Anti-Christian, they're still buying the units.

omgben said,

Yeah, I guess I'm fortunate enough not to have to hear it. But, unfortunately, since it's election season, the mocking people I know are Republicans or Democrats.


Maybe you should buy an Android and see how people react to it.. the Mac dudes etc.. its not that I say they will say you bought a piece of crap or anything.. they will just make hints about how mac might be better and you might have to toss your android.

Believe me. People are annoying. I have a friend.. recently switched to mac.. but now hes all like.. wishing he sticked with PC. but everytime he is around he does make comments on how slow Windows is and Mac is so superior and then goes back to blaming every flaw in his Apple .. to.. Yep.. Apple.

Weird people.

Bogdan Zyryanov said,
those people are utterly insane. I am Russian, and I am telling you, everyone regards them as crazies.

yea, i guess they have to cut up an apple if they eat it, because if they took a bite out of one, it would turn anti-christian?

Calum said,

Here's an apple for you.

for those with parents who love Golden Delicious Apples that seems absurd. and I love Apple Cider. Hmmm how bout an apple cooled with apple cider??