Samsung could delay some products in wake of Apple verdict

Late on Friday, Samsung faced the worst case scenario in its court fight against Apple, as a San Jose, California jury ruled that Samsung must pay just over $1 billion to Apple for design patent violations. That could mean Samsung may not release as many products over the next few months.

Bloomberg reports that analyst Chang In Whan of KTB Asset Management predicted, "Samsung will have to change some products in its pipeline. There could be delays in developing and releasing new models at a time when products are coming out every six months."

For the record, Samsung spokesperson James Chung said that the court verdict on Friday won't affect the company's current product release schedule. However, the company has had to make design changes for its products in the past to comply with other court rulings.

In Germany, Samsung released a different version of its Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet earlier in 2012 after Apple won a similar court case over its design patents. The bezel for the modified tablet, the Galaxy Tab 10.1N, has a silver color compared to the original's black and white. Apple tried but failed to block the sale of the Galaxy Tab 10.1N in Germany.

Officially, Samsung says it will ask the judge in the US case to overturn the jury's verdict and, if that fails, Samsung will then appeal. In a statement, the company said, "It is unfortunate that patent law can be manipulated to give one company a monopoly over rectangles with rounded corners, or technology that is being improved every day by Samsung and other companies."

Source: Bloomberg | Images via Apple and Samsung

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I see this as an opportunity for Samsung to improve their already more superior smartphones and tablets. Samsung may have lost in court but they actually won people switching from Apple.

Samsung has to delay the new products; they need to find another company to copy their products from.

I bought a Galaxy Note in early December. I PLANNED on getting a G-Note 2 around December this year, that is if the crAPPLE gods will allow it.

AngryOldPerson said,
It'll get overturned on appeal...a hollow victory with a few minutes of soapbox time for now

They're going to overturn a jury verdict? Not bloody likely.

Avatar Roku said,

They're going to overturn a jury verdict? Not bloody likely.

I wouldn't be surprised if the actual amount that Samsung have to pay goes higher than what the jury settled with. This will not get overturned.

AngryOldPerson said,
It'll get overturned on appeal...a hollow victory with a few minutes of soapbox time for now

With the way it looks, Judge Koh will most likely leave it unchanged. The price might change too. Either met reduced or get tripled due to Samsung being found guilty for willful infringement in terms of the Patent Act. So this might even become $3 billion+ , but probably not likely to happen because of Judje Koh's reluctance for this.

samsung should make a windows phone 8 identical to the iphone and see if microsoft would fight for them since they are required to fight their legal battles. That would be funny

Superboy said,
samsung should make a windows phone 8 identical to the iphone and see if microsoft would fight for them since they are required to fight their legal battles. That would be funny

I don't think Microsoft has any obligation or agreement to defend OEMs over hardware patents... only software patents.

Superboy said,
samsung should make a windows phone 8 identical to the iphone and see if microsoft would fight for them since they are required to fight their legal battles. That would be funny

There's an anti-cloning agreement in place between Microsoft and Apple. Microsoft cannot copy Apple's designs for software/hardware. If Samsung does release an iphone close, Microsoft will be pressure to stop its launch.

Whoa! I am confused, why would you put two identical iPads as the image for this article? Those two devices look exactly the same, I can't tell them apart.

/s

nohone said,
Whoa! I am confused, why would you put two identical iPads as the image for this article? Those two devices look exactly the same, I can't tell them apart.

/s

it is bad when the courts and jury just basically called everyone iDiots because they can't tell one product from another

Buttus said,

it is bad when the courts and jury just basically called everyone iDiots because they can't tell one product from another

They are not calling anyone idiots and im sure that most consumers would be able to see the difference. This is about Samsung copying a device without any regard for patents or anything else. they simply took someone elses design and put their own **** on it and they deserved what they got yesterday.

korupt_one said,

They are not calling anyone idiots and im sure that most consumers would be able to see the difference. This is about Samsung copying a device without any regard for patents or anything else. they simply took someone elses design and put their own **** on it and they deserved what they got yesterday.

so..... you're saying that samsung copied someone elses design, but everyone can tell the difference between the two things? doesn't sound like a very good copy

Buttus said,

so..... you're saying that samsung copied someone elses design, but everyone can tell the difference between the two things? doesn't sound like a very good copy

they copied the design which everyone can see was just about the same as what apple had already did. People can see the difference between the two companies on the phone, one has Samsung written on it the other has an apple.

korupt_one said,

they copied the design which everyone can see was just about the same as what apple had already did. People can see the difference between the two companies on the phone, one has Samsung written on it the other has an apple.

Oh, right. I almost forgot about the rectangle with rounded corners. Shame on you Samsung...

jon.01 said,
If only Samsung could stop selling their components such as flash memory to Apple. Is there anything comparable to samsung flash out there?

There probably is and Apple would be able to source the components from else where, but if Samsung where to stop shipments of components till some sort cross-patent licensing agreement could be formed Apple would have major short-term problems.

jon.01 said,
If only Samsung could stop selling their components such as flash memory to Apple. Is there anything comparable to samsung flash out there?

Apart from the fact Apple are one of Samsungs biggest customers and they would be literally shooting themselves in the foot if the attempted this, Apple I imagine also have contracts in place because they are such a big player in the flash memory market they bulk buy in advance at a set price (one of the benefits of having so much cash at hand)

From 2010:

it has just purchased Samsung's whole output of flash memory until April. And since Samsung makes about 40% of the world's flash memory we should only assume that Apple is going to get a lot of flash memory by April

http://www.mobilewhack.com/app...y-in-bulk-quantities-again/

Look. I LOVE my apple products.. I REALLY do. BUT.. i think this is very silly.. how many different brands mice are there and they all look the same? i know that isn't exactly oranges to oranges but after two bottles of wine it makes damn good sense

Fus10n said,
Look. I LOVE my apple products.. I REALLY do. BUT.. i think this is very silly.. how many different brands mice are there and they all look the same? i know that isn't exactly oranges to oranges but after two bottles of wine it makes damn good sense

It pretty much is oranges to oranges... You may say that mice are far simpler devices, but what about TV's, PC's, speakers and turntables... no one is suing anyone because any of those devices are too similar looking, but a lot of them are! And those are just examples found from looking around my room.

Fus10n said,
Look. I LOVE my apple products.. I REALLY do. BUT.. i think this is very silly.. how many different brands mice are there and they all look the same? i know that isn't exactly oranges to oranges but after two bottles of wine it makes damn good sense

Pretty good analogy actually. While I think Samsung should be a little more creative in doing their hardware designs from an aesthetic point of view, there's not a lot of things you can do to the basic shape of a mobile.

MeltedMacaroni said,
Good, very good. Slowly, but surely.

I'm guessing you think Android will simply just die right? Back in the real world Android's market share is gonna be stuck at 50%+ for years to come.

thealexweb said,

I'm guessing you think Android will simply just die right? Back in the real world Android's market share is gonna be stuck at 50%+ for years to come.

Android wont die no but it will stagnate now, the marketshare wont change for a number of years simply because there are so many android devices out there. but mark my words in saying yesterday was the day android reached its peek.

korupt_one said,

Android wont die no but it will stagnate now, the marketshare wont change for a number of years simply because there are so many android devices out there. but mark my words in saying yesterday was the day android reached its peek.

What's your point? Microsoft's market share on the desktop has stagnated for years. You think stagnation is bad? LOL.

Being stuck at 50% means that they'll always be the most common unless there's only one other company competing against them.

andrewbares said,

What's your point? Microsoft's market share on the desktop has stagnated for years. You think stagnation is bad? LOL.

Being stuck at 50% means that they'll always be the most common unless there's only one other company competing against them.

There will always be a competing company. There marketshare will not stay at 50% or whatever it is at this moment in time, it will stagnate and slowly but surely drop. Just look at Symbian. It had the largest marketshare worldwide not just in the USA (of which you are getting android marketshare from) Symbian still has the largest marketshare still in some regions but slowly but surely it is dropping across the board that is what android will look like in a few years.

korupt_one said,

Android wont die no but it will stagnate now, the marketshare wont change for a number of years simply because there are so many android devices out there. but mark my words in saying yesterday was the day android reached its peek.

won't be stagnant. where Samsung lacks, many other good android manufacturers that can step up and do well. I am looking forward in seeing what other companies can do.

korupt_one said,

Android wont die no but it will stagnate now, the marketshare wont change for a number of years simply because there are so many android devices out there. but mark my words in saying yesterday was the day android reached its peek.

Your severe lack of intellect and understanding is astounding.

The best thing that might come out of this is an overhaul of TouchWiz. Much of TW's functionality is excellent, but the UI itself is overkill. I helped a friend update his GS2 handset to Ice Cream Sandwich and was stunned by how little it actually changed visually. The TouchWiz launcher, in all its iWish-I-was-iOS glory, completely overwhelmed the visual update to Android itself.

I agree completely, I don't know why they have to mess everything up with touchwiz, it makes updates more difficult and slower, looks terrible and unoriginal unlike IMO the beautiful ICS/Jellybean android interface. Android used to have a terrible UI but now it doesn't, to still make these pointless visual changes doesn't make any sense.

Joshie said,
The best thing that might come out of this is an overhaul of TouchWiz. Much of TW's functionality is excellent, but the UI itself is overkill. I helped a friend update his GS2 handset to Ice Cream Sandwich and was stunned by how little it actually changed visually. The TouchWiz launcher, in all its iWish-I-was-iOS glory, completely overwhelmed the visual update to Android itself.

The best overhaul to touchwiz would be to remove it and sell devices with a vanilla installation of Android.

Good, Samsung needs to slow their refresh rate anyway. One of the gripes I have with Android devices. You buy a new device, and the next day, an update product is released/announced.

techbeck said,
Good, Samsung needs to slow their refresh rate anyway. One of the gripes I have with Android devices. You buy a new device, and the next day, an update product is released/announced.

I never really understood this point of view. It's not like your phone is worse because a newer version has been released. If you want the newer one you can buy it but don't complain because the company that made your phone is constantly improving its product lineup... that's probably the reason why they were able to release the phone that you bought!

M4x1mus said,
I never really understood this point of view. It's not like your phone is worse because a newer version has been released. If you want the newer one you can buy it but don't complain because the company that made your phone is constantly improving its product lineup... that's probably the reason why they were able to release the phone that you bought!

Because Samsung abandon's supporting their hardware too quickly - the Samsung Galaxy S was released in 2010 and Samsung has refused to provide an official upgrade to 4.x.

M4x1mus said,

I never really understood this point of view. It's not like your phone is worse because a newer version has been released. If you want the newer one you can buy it but don't complain because the company that made your phone is constantly improving its product lineup... that's probably the reason why they were able to release the phone that you bought!

Because having a **** ton of phones makes it really easy to keep them updated and supported..../s

HTC proved that having to many phones is not a good idea. I am all for variety, but hell, choose a few models and thats it. Like a low, mid, and high end model.

And why is there an insane need to have a ton of different variants? Cant they release one model phone for every carrier/region? And yes, I am asking a question here. Just seems insane they have Vibrant, Captivate, Fascinate...as an example. All three the same phone with minor changes on different carriers.

techbeck said,
Good, Samsung needs to slow their refresh rate anyway. One of the gripes I have with Android devices. You buy a new device, and the next day, an update product is released/announced.

I'd like to see maybe two refreshes per year and a low, mid & high end device. There's no reason for more than that. Anything more is them just wanting to rape people of their money because they know people want the best all the time or up-to-date. For the astronomical price of these phones, people are not going to upgrade next month.

rfirth said,
They won't be delaying the launch of any WP8 devices

Unfortunately all of their WP8 devices are just repackaged Android phones like the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Nexus.

But on the plus side we have Nokia, so we don't have to settle for cheap plastic Samsung phones with crappy software.

Avatar Roku said,
But on the plus side we have Nokia, so we don't have to settle for cheap plastic Samsung phones with crappy software.

YAY!

Avatar Roku said,

Unfortunately all of their WP8 devices are just repackaged Android phones like the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Nexus.


Well then, that means that there will be power horses of WP devices, which won't lag at all

Jose_49 said,

Well then, that means that there will be power horses of WP devices, which won't lag at all

Errr WP dont lag at all, not even on single core phones.

Jose_49 said,

Well then, that means that there will be power horses of WP devices, which won't lag at all

My WP is not a "power horse" phone with no lag at all that runs circle around Android. Guys at work with Android phones couldn't believe it when I told them the specs because of how smooth it was.

rfirth said,
They won't be delaying the launch of any WP8 devices

Microsoft makes OS for phones too??
Didn't they have a big fail with Windows Phone OS 7? Now they have another OS?

Digi Justicer said,

Microsoft makes OS for phones too??
Didn't they have a big fail with Windows Phone OS 7? Now they have another OS?

Nope, Wp7 is doing okay, i wont call it successful but its not fail either. And yes MS makes OS for phones, Windows mobile which predate Android and iOS was made by MS, "WP7 OS" is also MS's Mobile OS.

Digi Justicer said,

Microsoft makes OS for phones too??
Didn't they have a big fail with Windows Phone OS 7? Now they have another OS?

Nope, Microsoft has never made a Windows Phone OS 7. They did however make Windows Phone 7 and Windows Phone 7.5. Yes they have an upgrade for current devices to Windows Phone 7.8 and new devices will get Windows Phone 8. They are far superior to both Android & iOS in every way, with a slight lack of apps so far.

simrat said,

Nope, Wp7 is doing okay, i wont call it successful but its not fail either. And yes MS makes OS for phones, Windows mobile which predate Android and iOS was made by MS, "WP7 OS" is also MS's Mobile OS.

Yes I remember it, Windows mobile 6.1 was good, had a device with it. Then MS dumped it. These metro phones just look weird, and from what I've been reading they failed pretty hard and gave MS a bad name in the mobile, so MS had to come up with another OS, another name, another brand, but basically the same OS. PR to try and clean up the mess. Let's see how this one goes.

Digi Justicer said,
Yes I remember it, Windows mobile 6.1 was good, had a device with it. Then MS dumped it. These metro phones just look weird, and from what I've been reading they failed pretty hard and gave MS a bad name in the mobile, so MS had to come up with another OS, another name, another brand, but basically the same OS. PR to try and clean up the mess. Let's see how this one goes.

What are you talking about? What Metro phones did Microsoft release before Windows Phone 7? And what new OS are they releasing?

dogmai79 said,

What are you talking about? What Metro phones did Microsoft release before Windows Phone 7? And what new OS are they releasing?


None, I'm referring to the current Windows Phone 7.
New OS will be Windows Phone 8. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Digi Justicer said,
Yes I remember it, Windows mobile 6.1 was good, had a device with it. Then MS dumped it. These metro phones just look weird, and from what I've been reading they failed pretty hard and gave MS a bad name in the mobile, so MS had to come up with another OS, another name, another brand, but basically the same OS. PR to try and clean up the mess. Let's see how this one goes.

not sure if serious...

Digi Justicer said,

None, I'm referring to the current Windows Phone 7.
New OS will be Windows Phone 8. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Windows Phone 8 is not a new OS. It's an upgrade to Windows Phone 7.5. It might be a major upgrade but it's not a whole new OS. I think you're confusing Windows Phone with Windows Mobile. Windows Phone 7 & 7.5 were/are not failures. In comparison to iOS & Android with their hundreds of thousands of more apps, you might look at it that way but in reality it is no failure.

Avatar Roku said,

Unfortunately all of their WP8 devices are just repackaged Android phones like the Galaxy S3 and Galaxy Nexus.

But on the plus side we have Nokia, so we don't have to settle for cheap plastic Samsung phones with crappy software.


I don't understand when was Nokia known for the fact of having a good specs? If Samsung just throw in a Exynos processor it will be great already. Nokia make not be as experience as other brands in creating high end phone?

Just because Nokia have a hard (metal like) casing I don't think it makes them a better phone manufacturer than the rest? Crappy software? Well its a Windows Phone I don't think it makes a different because they cannot add in their own **** like touchwiz?

Overall I think Samsung really makes good hardware but just crappy software... Same as LG...