Samsung: Galaxy Note 10.1 is superior to new iPad

Apple's latest iPad is available now, and you know what? Samsung feel they don't need to release something new to compete with it, according to their latest assessment of their closest rival. The Android-based Galaxy Note 10.1 is Samsung's latest tablet model, taking its design from the Galaxy Note 'phablet', which is just about the right size to be a challenge to fit into your pocket. Our own Tim Schiesser reviewed the Galaxy Note phone upon its release, and the complete review is here.

Samsung's Galaxy Note tablet was released in February to a widely positive reception from technology websites and blogs. As the Huffington Post correctly observes, CNET's Jessica Dolcourt highly praised the tablet for taking a different approach to what is rapidly becoming a well-saturated computer market.  If you really want to be picky, there are actually some tangible benefits to the Note over the 'resolutionary' new iPad. It actually is marginally thinner and does things a little differently, but the marketing? Maybe not so great, Samsung.

While it is nice to see two big companies vying for every last bit of power they can hold over the mobile market, Samsung really could do with finding a better way to express themselves. Their recent advertising campaigns have included the concept of being 'Samsunged', as Apple fans apparently convert when they experience a Galaxy handset, and their disputes with Apple are still very public. While the patent war seems to have slowed down slightly, the actual conflict between two of the giants of the mobile industry doesn't seem to show any signs of slowing.

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New member here. Bottom line is, "It's the economy, Stupid." The new iPad online pre-orders - sold-out and most likely long lines when the actual iPad is actually on sale in BM stores everywhere. Galaxy Note 10.1-- what Galaxy Note? Specs and features are only part of the story. Samsung and all other droid tablet makers sure are elated to hear of rave reviews for their products but would be doubly ecstatic if their products are flying off the shelves and seeing those very long lines of eager buyers waiting to spend their hard-earned money for their products. It's a hard reality that Manufacturers cannot compete with Apple with only techies, enthusiasts, and maybe a good number of consumers to buy their products. Not sustainable any way you look at it, in either classroom, wall street, or voodoo economics. Disclaimer I'm a PC guy and make a living fixing PCs, uses Windows Phone 7 as my mobile phone, uses Android e-reader, and uses Galaxy Tab 7 and old iPad tablets.

I just read an article over at techradar
http://beta.techradar.com/news...xy-note-10-1-review-1067174

That at the bottoms says

One bug-bear is that there's no slot for the stylus, something we've criticised other tablet devices for in the past. Yes, adding a slot could add bulk to the device, and Samsung is selling a range of accessories which can house the pen, but we'd still like a more integrated solution.

So they praise everything stylus but you can't carry it with the Galaxy? Seems a bit of an oversight there.

People will buy the new ipad because of retina display and quad-core GPU...its the heavily advertised point by Apple

Last time I checked galaxy note didn't have retina display and powerful GPU than ipad

So basically the best Samsung can come up with is "ours is better than theirs because with us you can view two apps side-by-side and you can use a stylus"?

But the screen alone is enough, to make people from buy the iPad.

And a lot of features on this list are exaggerated and repeated.
- 1,2,6 & 7 are basically the same point.
- 3,4 & 5 also talk about the same thing.

FMH said,

And a lot of features on this list are exaggerated and repeated.
- 1,2,6 & 7 are basically the same point.
- 3,4 & 5 also talk about the same thing.

Thanks. That's what I was going to say.

PyX said,

Thanks. That's what I was going to say.

You're welcome. And I just realized that I made a typo. Exclude the word 'from', in the first line.

FMH said,
But the screen alone is enough, to make people from buy the iPad.

And a lot of features on this list are exaggerated and repeated.
- 1,2,6 & 7 are basically the same point.
- 3,4 & 5 also talk about the same thing.

True, the 4 bullets in small print at the bottom aren't though.

iOS is what you are paying for with Apple products, the 'all in one package special' that is made to suit everyones needs..

android on the other hand adds the features people want. If not, they can feel free to change it.

i do agree the android play is inferior to what apple has made. Then again, android software is much cheaper than iOS. Android offered 10 cent apps for 10 days for 10 billion downloads. Apple reached 25 billion and just gave away $10,000 iBucks to one individual....

srbeen said,
Then again, android software is much cheaper than iOS. Android offered 10 cent apps for 10 days for 10 billion downloads. Apple reached 25 billion and just gave away $10,000 iBucks to one individual....

Which was a one time thing. There was a report posted here on Neowin not too long ago that iOS apps, in general, are actually cheaper than Android's.

Kinda ironic you're calling others sheep when you're the one mindlessly using a term you picked up on the internet.

Edited by .Neo, Mar 10 2012, 1:29am :

naap51stang said,
And still the iSheep will stand in line waiting for it.
And still the Fandroids can't come up with anything better than iSheep

Interesting that they are pointing out a feature they have that you can get for the iPad anyway. There are pressure sensitive solutions for the iPad. Does Samsung not have access to the internet?

ILikeTobacco said,
Interesting that they are pointing out a feature they have that you can get for the iPad anyway. There are pressure sensitive solutions for the iPad. Does Samsung not have access to the internet?

You summed it up - yes, you can "get" it, with your cold hard cash, soon.
Nevermind spending the extra $120 on the 'ipad' name over the $400 priced note... just shell out another $40-$60, and hope you don't lose it, or its charger... keep your bluetooth on for it to work - which adds to the tablets power drain.

samsungs works out of the box. You know, the marketing aspect apple is dead-set against.

srbeen said,

You summed it up - yes, you can "get" it, with your cold hard cash, soon.
Nevermind spending the extra $120 on the 'ipad' name over the $400 priced note... just shell out another $40-$60, and hope you don't lose it, or its charger... keep your bluetooth on for it to work - which adds to the tablets power drain.

samsungs works out of the box. You know, the marketing aspect apple is dead-set against.

It is amazing that after all these years, people still hang on to the "it costs to much" argument. I case you haven't noticed, this has never worked to slow the speed at which iPhones or iPads sell. Come up with an argument that means something in the real world.

In the real world, people buy an iPad because it is what they want. If they want more with it, they pay more. You can claim that money is somehow an issue that matters, but the facts remain. There isn't a single device that matches the sales to date. The issue of money isn't having much of an effect in a way that matters the way you seem to think it does.

Fact 1: iPad users know there are other options that cost less on the market. They sit right next to the iPads on the display at Walmart even.
Fact 2: They don't care and buy the iPad anyway.

This is the same argument that we see with Linux. Its free, does everything Windows and OSX can, and yet, we are still waiting for the year of Linux to happen. The logic that money is the primary factor wasn't an issue with that, and still isn't with this.

srbeen said,

samsungs works out of the box. You know, the marketing aspect apple is dead-set against.

Come to think of it, do people not realize how idiotic this is? First off, its not a marketing aspect, it is a simple business decision. No sane person that makes business decisions will say, lets add more features to this device even though people will buy it in its current form for the same price. Anyone who suggests otherwise doesn't understand how business works. Nobody sells something for less than what they can get for it in business. They sell it for the highest profit margin possible. People need to start thinking about Apple and all other business for what they are. They are a business. They don't think, they don't have morals, they don't care about any of us. The make a product that sales and will make as much money as they possibly can in the process.

Go ahead and argue that but just remember, Apple is currently one of the most profitable companies on the planet, so clearly they are doing something right as a business. There is no way to argue that with anything but bias and unfounded hate.

srbeen said,

You summed it up - yes, you can "get" it, with your cold hard cash, soon.
Nevermind spending the extra $120 on the 'ipad' name over the $400 priced note... just shell out another $40-$60, and hope you don't lose it, or its charger... keep your bluetooth on for it to work - which adds to the tablets power drain.

samsungs works out of the box. You know, the marketing aspect apple is dead-set against.

Have a source on the Note 10.1 costing $400? I can't find a hard release date or price in my quick searching.

ILikeTobacco said,

It is amazing that after all these years, people still hang on to the "it costs to much" argument. I case you haven't noticed, this has never worked to slow the speed at which iPhones or iPads sell. Come up with an argument that means something in the real world.

In the real world, people buy an iPad because it is what they want. If they want more with it, they pay more. You can claim that money is somehow an issue that matters, but the facts remain. There isn't a single device that matches the sales to date. The issue of money isn't having much of an effect in a way that matters the way you seem to think it does.

Fact 1: iPad users know there are other options that cost less on the market. They sit right next to the iPads on the display at Walmart even.
Fact 2: They don't care and buy the iPad anyway.

This is the same argument that we see with Linux. Its free, does everything Windows and OSX can, and yet, we are still waiting for the year of Linux to happen. The logic that money is the primary factor wasn't an issue with that, and still isn't with this.

Well personally I went through a lot of iDevices in my life. Most other people I know have as well. As for your cost argument on adaption - people sink money into OS's. iOS is none different. Why would people opt to go to linux when they have windows installed with all their apps they purchased?
People would be less likely to switch to android and more likely to get an iPad as their iPhone apps would be grandfathered to the device under their account.

As for the cost - it goes without saying their hardware is underfeatured and hugely overpriced. They also sell more than iPads too. computers, servers, phones, MP3 players, flat panels... This is why they are the richest in the world. paying 15% more for something they can mass produce for less than anyone else would mean that less adopters would provide more revenue... plus they have 33% profit and positive control on everything their devices run. This is unlike every other device and software we all know is where the money really is.

Edited by srbeen, Mar 9 2012, 10:01pm :

Stetson said,

Have a source on the Note 10.1 costing $400? I can't find a hard release date or price in my quick searching.

checked the futureshop website, misread. their current tablet is priced at the $400 mark so I presume their 'updated' model would be as well.

There's a very funny thing:
- Apple: "our processor is 4x faster than competition", no objective tests/ comparison
-> average cooment: OMG THATS AWESOME CANT WAIT FOR IT OMG

- Competition: "Our product is better then the ipad!", but focus on ad-hoc features in which their product excels, without mentioning problems
-> average comment: OMG THEIR SO LAME GO APPLE GO

tuneslover said,
Seems like Windows 8 gonna win after all.

I tend to agree, but only time will tell. I'm more excited about Windows 8 as a tablet OS in general because it offers so much more than IOS or Android.

I don't own a tablet, but I have considered purchasing an Android based one in the past. Once I started seeing screenshots of Windows 8, I decided to wait.

I have an Android based phone, but I suspect that l may switch to Windows Phone Next once it's released. We shall about that though, I'm pretty happy with Android on my phone.

Although I have an extreme hate on for all things i, I cannot get behind this lame attempt by Samsung to make their tablet seem better.

Can't wait to refresh my hardware once Windows 8 comes out. Then it's a slate device for me, oh wait, that's just plain tablet now.....

I can't wait for a Windows 8 tablet from Samsung with the exact features except instead of running Android, it is running Windows 8.

ryuh3d said,
I can't wait for a Windows 8 tablet from Samsung with the exact features except instead of running Android, it is running Windows 8.

Samsung 7 Series Slate 700T. Install W8CP on it, instantly better than Android and iOS.

ryuh3d said,
I can't wait for a Windows 8 tablet from Samsung with the exact features except instead of running Android, it is running Windows 8.

Samsung 7 Series Slate 700T. Install W8CP on it, instantly better than Android and iOS.

ryuh3d said,
I can't wait for a Windows 8 tablet from Samsung with the exact features except instead of running Android, it is running Windows 8.

Windows 8 already has these kind of features like running app side by side, copy paste etc. Except S-Pen.

tuneslover said,

Windows 8 already has these kind of features like running app side by side, copy paste etc. Except S-Pen.

Exactly... that is why I can't wait for it.

tuneslover said,

Windows 8 already has these kind of features like running app side by side, copy paste etc. Except S-Pen.


Yup. The thing is, windows has already excellent handwriting recognition built in. Throw in a stylus, and bam. Windows 8 might just become king.

Is it just me ore are 4 of the 8 comparisons about side by side viewing, so they win because they listed the same feature 4 times. 4 requires optimized apps to use the feature. And UP TO 32GB via SD card,, where do I sign up for that 1 sided comparison tablet

Hell-In-A-Handbasket said,
Is it just me ore are 4 of the 8 comparisons about side by side viewing, so they win because they listed the same feature 4 times. 4 requires optimized apps to use the feature. And UP TO 32GB via SD card,, where do I sign up for that 1 sided comparison tablet

THIS!

So basically the only things they got going for them is a stylus nobody in their right mind wants? And the ability to view 2 apps side by side?

Here's some where the iPad wins (imo):

- Access to the worlds largest app store for apps designed for tablet interfaces
- Not having to have 2 apps side by side because the apps haven't been designed to utilise a tablet screen properly
- Not having to worry about losing your stylus
- iLife and iWork
- An LTE device with a battery that doesn't die in 2 hours
- iCloud and AirPlay

Those are some weak points. Granted, they're points where Samsung has an advantage, but that far from proves that the Galaxy Note is superior

3rd Gen iPad: 2048x1536, 264 ppi
Note 10.1: 1280x800, 149 ppi

iPad: Ships 9 days after announcement, $499.
Note 10.1: As far as I can tell no shipping date or confirmed price.

Stetson said,

iPad: Ships 9 days after announcement, $499.
Note 10.1: As far as I can tell no shipping date or confirmed price.

Galaxy Tab 10.1 is already in the market.

I would like to see how many variants in how many counties and how many months it will take Samsung to sell the note that Apple has sold with the iPad on pre-order day. My guess is 5-10 months. Samsung is nothing but the little nerd in the corner of the playground when it comes to the tablet market.

BlendedFrog said,
I would like to see how many variants in how many counties and how many months it will take Samsung to sell the note that Apple has sold with the iPad on pre-order day. My guess is 5-10 months. Samsung is nothing but the little nerd in the corner of the playground when it comes to the tablet market.

It's not about the numbers It's about the quality

Trihawk7 said,

It's not about the numbers It's about the quality

Tell that to Samsung's shareholders who care about numbers. It's a business

Trihawk7 said,

It's not about the numbers It's about the quality

And in terms of quality the iPad blows it out of the water. Why do you think the numbers are the way they are? If the Note was so great in quality then why does it take so long to sell units? Samsung does an outstanding job at marketing the GS2 here in the states but it is taking a long time at selling units and they keep releasing new variants all the time. If they are such high in quality then it should be flying off the shelves.

Trihawk7 said,

It's not about the numbers It's about the quality

Half truth. To consumers it is about quality. To business, its about numbers. Fact remains that the iPad is currently outselling other tablets.

DomZ said,

Tell that to Samsung's shareholders who care about numbers. It's a business

Without quality people won't be the product then the profits of the company go down which means the numbers are then useless

almost all of their reasons are about having 2 apps side by side and writing on the tablet lol. Who writes on tablets! side by side is a small benefit but to say your tablet is better for those 2 reasons is rather lame. Samsung should just buy the same screen apple uses and put it in their tablet theirs will be much better.

usb and microsd are much greater plus' than writing on the tablet for 95% of users.

torrentthief said,
almost all of their reasons are about having 2 apps side by side and writing on the tablet lol. Who writes on tablets

Many people do, stylus extends the functionality of tablet, it makes easier to take notes, it makes easier to draw ( stylus is a must for artists ). I think the best device to use a stylus on is a tablet.

simrat said,

Many people do, stylus extends the functionality of tablet, it makes easier to take notes, it makes easier to draw ( stylus is a must for artists ). I think the best device to use a stylus on is a tablet.


and no annoying finger prints and greasy smudging on the screen (my pet hate on all touch screen interfaces)

torrentthief said,
almost all of their reasons are about having 2 apps side by side and writing on the tablet lol. Who writes on tablets.

usb and microsd are much greater plus' than writing on the tablet for 95% of users.

I do write on a Tablet PC and I did it for the last ten years; and yes I can use USB n any kind of SD cards.
Did I mention that my "Convertible Tablet" replaced my laptop and I never looked back since?
I do not know about you specifically but the overwhelming majority of people find more natural the act of handwriting than typing.

of course Samsung is going put the Note over the iPad, after all, they do have an obvious interest seeing as it's their product

timster said,
of course Samsung is going put the Note over the iPad, after all, they do have an obvious interest seeing as it's their product

and just like apple putting down every single competitor they have ever had .. just to be douches'

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes


Android isn't fragmented, just differentiated. "fragmented" was a negative marketing word created by Apple to describe the Android ecosystem. It is a heavily biased word which has unfortunately been picked up by the media at large.

Possession said,

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

u high? Let's take GTA 4 for example, the most unstable iOS application I've ever had the misfortune of seeing.
Then there's old devices that can't run iOS 5 and are stuck on iOS 3 or 4, that's fragmentation right there.

Which leaves the third option: Samsung Series 7 Slate with Windows 8.
Then you can do all of the above and much more!

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

I'm not trying to be a Samsung fanboy but my galaxy s2 still isn't suffering from fragmentation or lag even though I have a different launcher and other stuff and SOME times my iPhone 4 used crash before I upgraded to my galaxy s2

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

My iPad lags more than my android phone does

n_K said,

u high? Let's take GTA 4 for example, the most unstable iOS application I've ever had the misfortune of seeing.
Then there's old devices that can't run iOS 5 and are stuck on iOS 3 or 4, that's fragmentation right there.

I can't say I've had GTA3 ever crash on my iPhone.

As for the devices stuck on iOS 3 or 4: that's not fragmentation, that's just really old hardware. iPhones get software updates for at least two years. Can you really say that of other phones? My original iPad, which I got about 20 months ago, was just updated to the latest version of iOS and still works great. Since we're on the topic of tablets here, I'm not even sure why you brought up devices being stuck at older versions of the software.

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

Lag is the key. If the Note 10.1 is anything like the Note phone, then writing or drawing anything is excruciatingly terrible since the delay is so bad.

Viewing 2 apps at the same time? Maybe that could be useful in some fashion, but on a 10" screen, I think it's rather silly.

Funny how they barely mention anything about specs since they've been clearly destroyed in that area.

SysRq said,
Which leaves the third option: Samsung Series 7 Slate with Windows 8.
Then you can do all of the above and much more!

I tried hit the insect on my screen. Turns out it was your profile picture.

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

Sure you can say Android is fragmented but you can't say that about most devices. You see, the only thing this phone doesn't run (yet) is Chrome. You see how that works?

yowanvista said,

Android isn't fragmented, just differentiated. "fragmented" was a negative marketing word created by Apple to describe the Android ecosystem. It is a heavily biased word which has unfortunately been picked up by the media at large.

Well, I make Android and iOS apps .... no offence, but fragmented sums it up beautifully. End.

yowanvista said,

Android isn't fragmented, just differentiated. "fragmented" was a negative marketing word created by Apple to describe the Android ecosystem. It is a heavily biased word which has unfortunately been picked up by the media at large.

ROFL!

drazgoosh said,

I tried hit the insect on my screen. Turns out it was your profile picture.

LOL.. I laughed for awhile now..

That's funny.

SysRq said,
Which leaves the third option: Samsung Series 7 Slate with Windows 8.
Then you can do all of the above and much more!

Man your avatar scared the f*** out of me as well

I agree though

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

spoken like a true apple fanboy!

drazgoosh said,

I tried hit the insect on my screen. Turns out it was your profile picture.
I did the same thing...lol

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes


Will sell more than 50million devices this year...

BTW i will give my IPS 9.7 capacitive android tablet and get my first ipad in a month from now. (will give to my brother, so don´t bother to ask)

yowanvista said,

Android isn't fragmented, just differentiated. "fragmented" was a negative marketing word created by Apple to describe the Android ecosystem.

LOL, looks like someone is not following news. Google itself admited they are aware of fragmentation and are addressing it. Or maybe you just need to use dictionary more often

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

Too bad this is comparing the 2 tablets not the 2 OS's.. nice try though.. what does one tablet being better then another have anything to do with fragmentation?? The samsung tablet has the latest version of android and the ipad has the latest version of IOS..

that has nothing to do with their arguement.. if we were comparing OS's then you have a point.. Its like saying that a HP Envy is better then a Macbook pro and arguing that Windows 7 can be slow on netbooks.. which has nothing to do with comparing to the 2 computers and their ability to run the OS.

Possession said,
Lag
Galaxy Note - Yes
iPad - No

Fragmentation
iPad and iOS - No
Galaxy Note and Android - Yes

I'm not surprised since you haven't read the note review, which provided above

theh0g said,

LOL, looks like someone is not following news. Google itself admited they are aware of fragmentation and are addressing it. Or maybe you just need to use dictionary more often

Again, Android is fragmented but if you are specifically talking about the Galaxy Note, is that really fragmented. What doesn't run on it? 99% of the apps run on it just fine. There are maybe 1 or two that don't like Chrome which is specifically designed for ICS. Try to keep this thread in context here. We are after all just talking about the Galaxy Note.

Otherwise why can't I say the original iPad is fragmented. Apps run poor with its 256MB RAM. Damn thing can't even take pictures. It doesn't do video chat.

If were going to attack the big picture, lets be fair and attack the original iPad as well.

SysRq said,
Which leaves the third option: Samsung Series 7 Slate with Windows 8.
Then you can do all of the above and much more!

and this comparison tries to say that pen with 255 levels of pressure is a good thing and something never seen before. better than nothing I guess, but it was generic for Windows Tablet PC's all the way back from 10 years ago. And you could buy replacement pen with at least 512 levels of pressure.