Samsung says that Apple stole iPhone design from Sony

Who’s stealing from whom? If you listen to Apple, you’d think that they have the most original designs in the world and that everyone, including Samsung, is jealous and copying them. Others say that phones and tablets are a basic design – a rectangle of glass with rounded corners – that can’t be protected anyway. The courts have gone both ways in recent months, some siding with Apple, some siding with Samsung.

Now, in a legal brief recently filed in the courts, Samsung claims that Apple stole many design decisions that the iPhone uses from other companies, namely Sony, Palm, and Nokia. According to the brief, an Apple executive found a news article in which Sony talked about making a simplistic phone that removed most of the physical buttons and showed it to Steve Jobs and others. Shortly thereafter, Apple designer Shin Nishibori created a CAD model of a phone that even included the Sony logo.

Samsung’s brief also points out that Apple knows that they were not the first to market with many of their innovations. In fact, Apple even rejected a marketing campaign touting all of Apple’s “firsts,” because the company didn’t invent anything first but rather copied things from other companies.

When Apple was developing its campaign to promote the first iPhone, it considered – and rejected – advertisements that touted alleged Apple ―firsts‖ with the iPhone. As one Apple employee explained to an overly exuberant Apple marketer, ―I don‘t know how many things we can come up with that you can legitimately claim we did first. Certainly we have the first successful versions of many features, but that‘s different than launching something to market first. In this vein, the employee methodically explained that Palm, Nokia and others had first invented the iPhone‘s most prominent features.

Samsung is hoping to prove the courts that Apple did not invent the look and feel of current phones and tablets and should have no right to block the sales of companies that have rectangular devices with glass screens.

Source: Legal brief

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deepfunkysoul said,
apple built the company on stealing. jobs has never denied it, he openly admitted it here in this interview http://youtu.be/CW0DUg63lqU Some of you mac sheep are either deaf and blind or just like to live in denial.

If I could +1 your comment I would.

#boycottapple

imagine kids fighting in the playground. and the wimpy one telling the adult others were stealing cookies from the jar. very pathetic, samsung.

Albert said,
imagine kids fighting in the playground. and the wimpy one telling the adult others were stealing cookies from the jar. very pathetic, samsung.

Samsung's being sued by Apple - should they just close shop and stop selling electronics...?? Or should they present their side of the story? I vote the latter.

Albert said,
imagine kids fighting in the playground. and the wimpy one telling the adult others were stealing cookies from the jar. very pathetic, samsung.

LMAO...It should be apparent that apple is the cry baby.

After years of adverts based on lies and half truths, they start litigating when microsoft produced their own ads showing up apples laptops.

It looks very similar to an iPhone 4. It's flat and rectangular with rounded corners. The screen area on the front is identical to an iPhone 4 as well as the flat surface at the back.

For the tl;dr crew, that's not an actual Sony phone pictured. It's a design exercise from Apple's internal designers on what a Sony phone *may* look like.

Take a look at Sony phones from 2006, and you'll see Sony made nothing like that.

I really hope Samsung win this argument. Apple is getting ridiculous with all its claims of originality in the face of so much prior art. Both in design and software.

I think the only reason apple is furiously trying to defend its designs in hardware and software is because they know dam well they've copied everything, they mat havee come out with the first major commercial success but how much of that is based on other ppl's work. That's one reason why I refuse tobuy another iPhone cus its everyone roses work they've lead ppl to believe its there own. Doesn't matter how much apple wants to spread its **** across a field, its still smells of ****. The next real innovations won't come till someone else has made it and they've copied it

Reading this article.. it sounds to me like the design above was Created by Apple themselves, based on some statements Sony peeps had made.. not some design Sony came up with..

Ryoken said,
Reading this article.. it sounds to me like the design above was Created by Apple themselves, based on some statements Sony peeps had made.. not some design Sony came up with..
I thought so as well. Talked about by SONY, then an Apple designer created the CAD (with SONY logo). If it was created by an Apple designer at the time then Apple would own it.

But that's just based on what the story is stating.

Enron said,
There are certainly some similarities, even down to the rounded rectangle design Apple claims to own, but Sony should be more concerned about the iPS2 controller Apple recently slapped together:

http://www.neowin.net/news/apple-patents-a-game-controller


No, they patented an application to use the iphone as a controller. It will be exactly like the xbox smart glass for the xbox 360 that was shown at E3.

And if you'd spent the 8 seconds required to read though that article you'd see the patent is about linking a game controller with a device using technologies like NFC. The patent is not about the design of the controller, the Dual Shock graphic is just a generic game controller graphic.

SpyderCanopus said,
Dual analog sticks on an iPhone would kill Vita and 3DS

i have a Vita and my ex has an iphone. no way lol i've seen games on high end androids, iphones and what not. but nothing comes even close to the gaming experience a Vita has. for a handheld, its a powerfull beast (im still amazed if I start a game everytime)

Shadowzz said,

i have a Vita and my ex has an iphone. no way lol i've seen games on high end androids, iphones and what not. but nothing comes even close to the gaming experience a Vita has. for a handheld, its a powerfull beast (im still amazed if I start a game everytime)

Wait, there are games on Android?

MeltedMacaroni said,
The first iPhone looks nothing like that, neither did the second one.

And Samsung phones look nothing like the iPhone.

andrewbares said,

And Samsung phones look nothing like the iPhone.

This. The iPhone looks closer to that prototype than Samsung phones is to the iPhone.

MeltedMacaroni said,
The first iPhone looks nothing like that, neither did the second one.
Apple: clearly this is a Sony betamax player. We have that patent. You know where to write the check.

case closed.

grayscale said,

This. The iPhone looks closer to that prototype than Samsung phones is to the iPhone.

Of course the iPhone looks like Apple's phone prototype :-p

MeltedMacaroni said,
The first iPhone looks nothing like that, neither did the second one.

True, the iPhone and the iPad looks much more like several devices from StarTrek the Next Generation back in the 1980s.

However it doesn't matter, the real problem with these series of lawsuits from Apple is that they are bringing back up Patent and Copyright cases that were effectively done away with in the late 1990s. They also converge parts of Patent law with Copyright law.

If these ever made it to the Supreme Court in the US, they and Apple won, it would change everything on several levels.

Descriptions of ideas in patents could be considered 'also' patented. Patent and Copyright law would inherit protections from each other.

The STUPID thing, is if Apple truly gets any of this crap set as precedent, Apple themselves would be one of the bigger targets for patent and copyright trolls. As then anyone that hold patents with 'descriptions' of products/ideas that include things like a 'box' could sue Apple for any Computer design they have that is box shaped.

It really is this insane, and I can see you wanting to defend Apple and even Apple trying to push back against Samsung and others, but serious damage to the already insane patent and copyright laws could be the result of these efforts. Making it impossible for anyone that does not already have a large collection of patents to EVER make anything again.

fenderMarky said,

Yes they did... and google thinks the same

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2...ung-against-copying-iphone/

wow, a rectangle with glass. Now let's see companies sue for using a cuboid for a computer case, a square for the shape of a processor, an elongated rectangle for the shape of RAM, the use of metal enclosures for hard drives, the use of fins on a CPU cooler and so on and so forth.

It is not the shape and design of the device that matters it is the technical functionality behind it that allows it to perform the actions it does. Companies can patent their technical techniques and process to produce the device. But they cannot stop others from producing the same outcome with their own technical process. This is how things move forward. people building on top of other ideas while tweaking it in their own direction.