Samsung's ATIV SE phone may not have Windows Phone 8.1 out of the box

With online reports claiming that Windows Phone 8.1 has reached the RTM stage and is being sent to hardware makers, it's likely that Microsoft will officially announce new phones with the updated mobile OS very soon. However, a new report claims that an upcoming phone might not have Windows Phone 8.1 out of the box.

The Verge reports, via unnamed sources, that the rumored Samsung ATIV SE will only have the current version of Windows Phone 8.0 installed when it goes on sale in April. The phone will get the 8.1 upgrade sometime later. The article also repeats previous rumors that it will be sold as a Verizon Wireless exclusive.

The device is supposed to have a 5-inch 1080 display and The Verge claims that it will have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 processor inside, along with 2GB of RAM and 16GB of storage.

Microsoft will likely reveal more information about Windows Phone 8.1 as part of its BUILD conference in San Francisco later this week. Nokia will hold a press event on the first day of the conference in the same city, where it is expected to reveal one or more upcoming Windows Phone devices.

Source: The Verge | Image via evleaks

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I don't see any issues here. 8.1 is not officially out, and it is obvious (or at least, it seems that way) that this phone will be released before it.

cybersaurusrex said,
Not everyone wants a thick, heavy Nokia phone. For those people, there's the Ativ.

My Lumia 925 would like to have a word. From GSM Arena:

Lumia 925: 139g, 8.5mm thickness
Galaxy S4: 130g, 7.9mm thickness

Do I really need to say which has a better build quality?

and the 925 is a super sexy sleek phone also, I would say one of the better phones on the market today. Everyone that looks at my phone says its amazing.

cybersaurusrex said,
Not everyone wants a thick, heavy Nokia phone. For those people, there's the Ativ.

I've owned a 1020 phone - what is so thick about it? the only one I can think of which is 'thick' would be the 1520 but that is due to the camera lens that pokes out from the back and even then I wouldn't say it is overly thick or heavy.

tanybeen said,

My Lumia 925 would like to have a word. From GSM Arena:

Lumia 925: 139g, 8.5mm thickness
Galaxy S4: 130g, 7.9mm thickness

Do I really need to say which has a better build quality?

Not everyone wants a phone with just 16GB of non-expandable storage and a small non-removable battery or a bezel that huge.

tanybeen said,

My Lumia 925 would like to have a word. From GSM Arena:

The Ativ S was waiting for that word for 6 months! 4.8" @ 135g. 2000 v. 2300 mAh

Stats, huh?!

Mine's lasting pretty well as far is quality goes, and it's been on the deck way too many times.

Don't see a problem depending on how long it takes them to get 8.1 out. Without Samsungs crappy TW UI, shouldnt be that difficult to release 8.1 soon after.

As a Samsung phone it looks like a cheap POC to begin with. Why would anyone touch Samsung Windows Phone when they are so tight with Android to start with?

The Ativ S was the only Windows Phone on my carrier - or on any good carrier in my area. Of course, six months later, they got Nokia phones including the Lumia 1020. So I wasn't too impressed with that.

Nonetheless, when I bought it at the time, the Ativ S had the largest screen for Windows Phones - so I did appreciate that. But now, there is really not much sense in getting a Samsung Windows Phone.

anonymf said,
At least it has mechanical Windows button.

I want Windows Phone with mechanical Back, Windows and Search buttons.

had the LG optimus 7 when it was out with all mechanical.. liked it at first but the back button started to give way after 2 years

trip21 said,
As a Samsung phone it looks like a cheap POC to begin with. Why would anyone touch Samsung Windows Phone when they are so tight with Android to start with?

The Android phones from Samsung are not super pretty either. Even the design quality leaves a lot to be desired compared to the Nokia phones.

As for the argument against Samsung because of their alignment with Android is they don't want to be 100% aligned with Android, and have expressed many times in the past that they would prefer to have WP be their top selling devices due to support and in house development costs.

At least with WP, Samsung gets patent protection from Microsoft against trolls and other claims. Now add in the reduced licensing fees from Microsoft, and the upfront cost is about the same, with less cost down the road.

The problem is like you said, they aren't the most elegant devices compared to what Nokia has been putting out. However, their Android products also fall behind Nokia devices, which is where 'their' problem is trying to fully compete in the WP space.

They can however compete in the non-high end device space rather easily. Target devices against the 520/620/820/1320, and Samsung has rather nice phones in comparison.

Tablet design is pretty average as well. Good idea not being 100% aligned with Android, just stick at 99.95%. WP isn't going to be a big hitter for them if they bring the bare minimum to the game. If WP8.1 does take off Samsung will be to Nokia what HTC are to Samsung in the android market!