Sealand Prince Says No to PirateBay.org

Michael Bates, Prince and heir to Sealand, clearly stated in a CBC interview that he has no intention of selling Sealand to any organization that violates international treaties: "It's theft of proprietary rights, it doesn't suit us at all. In fact, I've written a book and Hollywood is making a movie out of it, so it would go right against the grain to go into the file sharing thing." History tells us that Sealand did not always respect this recent announcement – it was once home to Michael's father's pirate radio broadcasting operation.

The estate agent hired to handle the sale of Sealand also did not agree with PirateBay.org's dreams: "We might not be able to sell to them, since one of the conditions imposed by the actual occupants of Sealand is that none of the activities to be carried out on Sealand should be an action against the UK, and potentially this group does not comply with this condition."

Legal online publication Out-Law consulted a Dundee University lecturer asking him what his take was on Sealand being its own sovereign nation. Professor Robin Churchill seems to have destroyed previous beliefs: "It is within 12 miles of the coast of Britain and in 1987 the UK extended its territorial waters to 12 miles. That means that UK law applies, including the law of copyright, which could be extended to Sealand without any legal problems whatsoever."

News source: DailyTech

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Legal online publication Out-Law consulted a Dundee University lecturer asking him what his take was on Sealand being its own sovereign nation. Professor Robin Churchill seems to have destroyed previous beliefs: “It is within 12 miles of the coast of Britain and in 1987 the UK extended its territorial waters to 12 miles. That means that UK law applies, including the law of copyright, which could be extended to Sealand without any legal problems whatsoever.”

So Sealand isn't a souvereign country.
They obviously only did this cheap trick about the "selling" as a publicity stunt and to make some quick cash :suspicious:

The very fact that they thought they could in the first place shows just how imbecilic these people are. I guess they'll have to find another way to make a mockery out of the copyright laws.

NeoFlux said,
They can just take over sealand! Like real Pirates! :D

mercenary troops already taken once over Sealand and got theirs asses kicked out

anyawy i think it's easier to buy normal island and build all needed there or just utilize some cheap country with minimal "respect" to "west" laws

Pirate Bay has always stated that if they could not purchase Sealand, they would look at other alternatives in getting their own country, I think the Pirate Bay is still affliated with the pirate party from Sweden in someway and this whole country thing would go beyond just hosting a site in their own country.

No, the UK does not own Sealand. The UK has already ruled that Sealand is a sovereign state, so expanding her territorial waters does not include Sealand. A nation cannot just expand its territorial waters and take what is now within its limits. If that was the case, then parts of the UK are actually owned by Sealand, since it also expanded its territorial waters to 12 miles.
With your thinking, the UK could expand to 1000 miles out and take, Ireland, France and other countries. That is against international law.

float a barge out to international waters, create an internet uplink via your own satellite, and who needs sealand?

guylaroche said,
Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not? :blink:

It doesn't really matter, because theres no way TPB would be able to raise the funds.... I mean, the whole reasoning behind them pirating is cuz pirates hate spending money on crappy movies and music, and now they're ready to drop 1 Billion just to trade songs and movies for free? Riiiiiiight....... this was never going to happen. its just some moronic pipe dream.

ispamforfood said,

It doesn't really matter, because theres no way TPB would be able to raise the funds.... I mean, the whole reasoning behind them pirating is cuz pirates hate spending money on crappy movies and music, and now they're ready to drop 1 Billion just to trade songs and movies for free? Riiiiiiight....... this was never going to happen. its just some moronic pipe dream.

Paying $1 billion once may end up cheaper than paying $xx per month per person forever.

There's also merit in it as a social experiment.

We have to study social stuff by doing. It's hard to make general theories.

Someone had to say "Hey, let's try democracy!", "Let's try socialism!", "Let's try eliminating slavery!", "Let's try national health care!", and perhaps some day "let's try no copyright!"

Honestly, I'd love to see either China or India do it. They're too big economically and militarily to ignore, trying to turn on them in the name of preserving high content prices would be political suicide, and they probably get way less out of copyright than it costs them.

ispamforfood said,

It doesn't really matter, because theres no way TPB would be able to raise the funds.... I mean, the whole reasoning behind them pirating is cuz pirates hate spending money on crappy movies and music, and now they're ready to drop 1 Billion just to trade songs and movies for free? Riiiiiiight....... this was never going to happen. its just some moronic pipe dream.


If anything, it was just viral marketing to raise publicity for The Pirate Bay, which it certainly did.

guylaroche said,
Wow.... So is Sealand a sovereign nation or not? :blink:

sealand is not a sovereign nation and has never been, it's just a dream

I seriously don't see why TPB are trying to buy it when they could get some guns, ammo and a boat for a fraction of the price.