Several major ISPs could crack down on pirates using their services

After seeing pirates use their ISPs to transmit their stolen movies, TV shows, music and games to others, it seems that a number of ISPs are finally getting together to make an effort to crack down on these kind of activities. CNet's News.com reports that a number of major Internet service providers in the US are working on a deal with the movie and music trade groups, that if successful, would have ISPs go after pirates who used their services.

According to the story, the ISPs involved in the proposed agreement include AT&T, Comcast and Verizon. They have been in talks with both the Recording Industry Association of America and Motion Picture Association of America on this anti-piracy deal. If the deal is agreed upon by the various parties, ISPs would first send out warnings to customers that have been accused of downloading pirated data from peer-to-peer based pirate sites. However, if those warnings are ignored by the accused party, the ISPs could do several things to punish the user including slowing down their bandwidth or limit their access to the web by only allowing them to view the top 200 web sites. The accused pirate could also be required to participate in a program that educates them on copyright law and the rights of content creators. Oddly enough, actually kicking the accused pirate off the ISP entirely is not a part of the proposed deal with the music and movie trade groups.

The story says that President Barack Obama and the White House have also been pushing for a deal between the groups to fight piracy. Assuming the deal is finalized, it could be officially announced sometime in July.

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innocent till proven guilty? if you say I did something prove it first before you take action. If you do, I should have the choice to take my business elsewhere, but if all of you are in agreement, it should be collusion imo.

Seems like its violating net neutrality.
Since they can't shut down unheard of network and peer to peer connections, they will just screw with your internet experience - not enough to drive you away from being a paying customer though.

I would like to know what would be the scapegoat once piracy is gone and sales don't change.

I can connect to several wireless routers from my house alone.. if I need something I'll just jump onto one of them and get it..or drive down the road with a laptop till I find one - download whatever and then come home. LOL

Marcos_Edson said,
So it only affects torrents? Waht about file hosting services such as Megaupload?

What about a photocopier in a library?
Megaupload isn't illegal. Im sure they would check the trackers you are using and it would be public only. They have no right to see your actual data but can make assumptions based on what systems you are connected to in the world.
I heard that they were going to take action on streaming sites however...

So Comcast and all the others, are looking out for themselves and anyone else in their industry who is only driving 10 Rolls Royces instead of 20, because they are getting "ripped off". If these morons just lowered the prices, and stopped ripping the public off, people would pay for stuff. I mean I would NEVER even dream about pirating a phone app for example because jesus man, $2.99? $0.99, that is perfectly fair. But $15.99 to see Super Sluts Go To Disneyland? Or $4.99 for a goddamn movie in addition to the $160/ MONTH for all the rest? Time for them to bend over for once!

I'm curious if after this agreement is reached users will be required to submit reasons for opening up VPN/Tunneling and documentation that it is needed before they will be able to use.....

*sigh*.....I get tired of all this crap.....

And we can thank groups like Lulzsec for pumping fuel to get something like this started. It will only get worse also, thanks to Lulzsec.

I wouldn't doubt if those groups are actually the government trying to scare people into a more strict internet.

jd100 said,
And we can thank groups like Lulzsec for pumping fuel to get something like this started. It will only get worse also, thanks to Lulzsec.

This was on the drawing board long before Lulzsec...

O5M3L said,
I wouldn't doubt if those groups are actually the government trying to scare people into a more strict internet.

I've been thinking this since all this hacking started getting worse.

jd100 said,
And we can thank groups like Lulzsec for pumping fuel to get something like this started. It will only get worse also, thanks to Lulzsec.

HUH? how is torrenting/Pricey and Hacking related?

WolvesHunt said,

HUH? how is torrenting/Pricey and Hacking related?

Because it gets all of the nut jobs and soccer mom's worked up. "Oh my GOD!! But what about the children!?! Will someone PLEASE think about the children!?! What's that? You need me to sign my rights away? No problem, as long as the children are safe!!"

Tim Dawg said,
Because it gets all of the nut jobs and soccer mom's worked up. "Oh my GOD!! But what about the children!?! Will someone PLEASE think about the children!?! What's that? You need me to sign my rights away? No problem, as long as the children are safe!!"

hmmm how is that related to torrenting... that's more like Parenting issues then hacker, downloading issues

oh yes download this .torrent file and your child will have a broken arm, maybe some emotional issues after words /s

That's a challenge! lol. nice one
With todays laws ISP's can do such thing, there would be the need of new contracts or so plus a several adjusments on the existing laws.
Glad it can be broken much more easily than will be implemented.

UndergroundWire said,
I'm glad I use a VPN/Tunneling software.

And tunnel into what?
1) If it's like TOR, then it's gonna be slow
2) If it's private it will cost you money and defeat the purpose
3) If it's private it will be traceable to you anyway.

ArmedMonkey said,

And tunnel into what?
1) If it's like TOR, then it's gonna be slow
2) If it's private it will cost you money and defeat the purpose
3) If it's private it will be traceable to you anyway.

It's a private fast server oversees. Costs $99 per year. I've been using it for a good 7 years now.

I simultaneously download large HD Video files and everything is complete within 20 min thanks to there fast service and my FiOS.

Not only is it good for torrents, it's good for getting around my work proxy.

I haven't got any warnings and lets just say I do a lot of torrenting. I'm quite happy.

all that means to me is: 1. dont illegally download movies and 2. dont illegally download music

the rest is up for grabs!

Jdawg683 said,
all that means to me is: 1. dont illegally download movies and 2. dont illegally download music

the rest is up for grabs!

Just pay for that iCloud service, it will legitimize all your tunes for $25 a year!

dont they already illegal do this?

RIAA and MPAA have "hacking" scare tatics group that threatens to take you to court for downloading. blah blah blah.

and then they were asked by the courts to stop doing this and they STILL continued.

also love the ending. stupid obama doing nothing about jobs once again and trying to put more people into our over crowed jails.

no wonder theres groups like anonymous and lulzsec/antisec

Agreed. This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard of. I really hope some group out there has the resources and willingness to take this head on. This would indeed suck for the average person. You could be wrongfully accused of pirating and you have no recourse other than to sue the ISP or go elsewhere. So what happens if you get accused, you try to do your best to fix the problem (change your password, install AV, scan your machine, etc) then you get accused again and locked down or restricted?? And who determine's what traffic or factors qualify as pirating?? If you use torrents at all = pirating? If you use massive amounts of data = pirating? If you go to TPB = pirating? Or are they going to try to inspect and re-assemble packets to peek inside to see what it is you're downloading?

The whole thing just plain sucks. WAY too much room for error and in this case it looks like you're guilty until proven innocent.

Sh4d0wX7 said,
They will never take us down. Any decent pirate knows to stay away from the big obvious torrent sites.

Nope, they use VPN Tunneling services.

The future for the internet is getting dark. Little by little we are going to have less options and of course they are going to blame it on piracy, but at the end of the day, they would love to charge you for packages (200 top sites, 400 top sites, etc)

O5M3L said,
The future for the internet is getting dark. Little by little we are going to have less options and of course they are going to blame it on piracy, but at the end of the day, they would love to charge you for packages (200 top sites, 400 top sites, etc)

They will most likely start doing that.

KavazovAngel said,

They will most likely start doing that.

That's impossible, since the top 200 sites would never change ranks if the rest is inaccessible.

Anooxy said,

That's impossible, since the top 200 sites would never change ranks if the rest is inaccessible.

Exactly. It's no different than the rich trying to keep others rich. However, Google would have a fit as they would go out of business within the year.

If I was one of those who could only access the top 200 sites, I'd just cancel my service. Would be no point in paying for it at that point.

Though I do like the idea that they would warn you first as not all users understand that piracy is bad. For example my mom downloaded a few movies and I had to explain that it wasn't legal.

Not everything has to be done with a lawsuit, and I am glad they realize this.

Allowing them to only view the the top 200 websites would be probably the biggest attempt to destroy to idea of net neutrality yet, strangling any small provider

thealexweb said,
Allowing them to only view the the top 200 websites would be probably the biggest attempt to destroy to idea of net neutrality yet, strangling any small provider

Wouldn't that help small providers? It sounds like only big ISP are signed onto this deal so that opens up a niche for small providers to step in and offer "unlimited" internet.

DukeEsquire said,

Wouldn't that help small providers? It sounds like only big ISP are signed onto this deal so that opens up a niche for small providers to step in and offer "unlimited" internet.

I meant small startups trying to get hits but if lots of users can't get to their website it hampers their chances.

This'll maybe do some damage on mainstream pirating but any decent pirate won't be affected by this. Anyone who goes to firstly goes to piratebay and secondly downloads a torrent on their home computer transparently is asking for trouble.

Out of curiosity, what's the best way to keep anonymous and secure when downloading torrents? Right now I don't use tpb, I use showRSS to download all my tv shows through uTorrent, but I'm not going through a proxy or anything.

Hollow.Droid said,
This'll maybe do some damage on mainstream pirating but any decent pirate won't be affected by this. Anyone who goes to firstly goes to piratebay and secondly downloads a torrent on their home computer transparently is asking for trouble.

LOL, torrents. No wonder people get busted. Although, the more people using them allows the smart guys to be safer

limit their access to the web by only allowing them to view the top 200 web sites.
I wonder if the piratebay will be in the allowed sites?

Rudy said,
I wonder if the piratebay will be in the allowed sites?

It's possible by some odd irony but they wouldn't be able to download anything from it.