ShopTo boss: PSPgo is "almost dead before it arrives"

In an interview with Eurogamer, Igor Cipolletta, manager of online games retailer ShopTo, said that while his business has no plans to boycott PSPgo like other European retailers, he feels that the handheld is "almost dead before it has arrived".

"We do have it listed on the site, but we are not concentrating any big marketing behind it," he said. "Sony has decided to cut publishers and retailers for the software of the PSPgo and deal direct with developers, giving them a 70 percent margin for any items sold on Sony PSN.

"I have the feeling that as a format it is almost dead before it has arrived, and it relies far too heavily on a customer base that is prepared to pay more for download content than the equivalent disc based product, and I suspect this market will soon dry up based on the technical limitations of the hardware."

Michael Pachter, gaming research analyst for Wedbush Morgan Securities, has responded to retailers boycotting the system, and thinks that each are being "foolish" and "ridiculous".

"It's just silly for a retailer to say that they won't sell a big ticket gaming device because they can't sell the games," he told Eurogamer. "Consumer electronics stores sell refrigerators and not food, everyone sells iPods and not the music for them; this position is just ridiculous."

Patcher also adds, "I think that it's foolish for a retailer to be selective about what they carry, unless they truly don't believe it will sell well. Refusing to carry them subjects them to the risk that Sony will bypass them for Gran Turismo or Uncharted, in which case they lose. To draw a line in the sand is wrong."

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"gaming research analyst for Wedbush Morgan Securities, has responded to retailers boycotting the system, and thinks that each are being "foolish" and "ridiculous"."

Ironically these analysts & stock people often have no idea or care whether a company is offering a hot product or great service -- their concern is only if the stock will go up or down so stock company can figure out how to make the most money. You would think they'd be more concerned with consumer opinion, but before consumers even form an opinion others are buying/selling stock as a gamble & that sets the price. Therefore the stock analyst analyzes the stock buyers/sellers, & often could care less about people actually buying the product.

"It's just silly for a retailer to say that they won't sell a big ticket gaming device because they can't sell the games"

A gaming device is sold once... Retailers (on & off line) sell games all the time, & it brings customers to the store who will hopefully buy more while they're at it. It's the same basic idea as razors (which started the idea) & cheap printers -- like the manufacturer they're more concerned with selling refills than the original product. If all manufacturers cut retailers out of the loop, the retailers have no reason to exist, so many figure they have to stop this experiment now, before more copy Sony, with a similar strategy as a union going on strike... suffer some pain now to stop more pain later. Without retailers, manufacturers make more money because there are no retail-related distribution costs, plus they don't have to sell to retailers at a discount -- no boxes, no shipping, & they keep all the money -- but will they sell as much product? Not only is there less choice for consumers, & less chances to buy, but many (most?) consumers also demand lower prices since the manufacturer's cost is less.

Is the system still being offered on Amazon over there? Is Amazon just as well known in Europe as it is in the States?

Are retailers TRYING to lose to 'big box' internet shopping at this point?

Isn't this purely sour grapes because they've been cut out of the revenue stream for content? Kind of like iPod retailers complaining that they don't get any of the moeny from iTunes purchases.

If it is, then it won't really matter what the retailers think other than from a marketing point of view. Then whether it lives or dies will depend on consumer take up based on the perceptions from all sources and not just the games retailers.

bobbba said,
Isn't this purely sour grapes because they've been cut out of the revenue stream for content? Kind of like iPod retailers complaining that they don't get any of the moeny from iTunes purchases.

Those retailers can still sell content for the iPod though, in the form of CDs.

considering its poor design from get go ergonomically speaking it was dead the moment it was announced let alone anything else. In retrospect to the platform being hacked as only real consumer selling point which even then it's becoming limited and out gunned by other platforms in terms of design, features and quality so really it's only a device aimed at being hacked and even then when it's hacked there's not all that much room to move around cause of such primitive features. They really messed up on this one that's for sure.

It's basically a PSP 3000 in a smaller container & without UMD. I rarely bought UMDs and pretty much downloaded stuff from PSN and Homebrew on my PSP Phat. Thus I'm wanting to see what a newer PSP will be like and one with such a small foam factor is pretty good not because I believe smaller is better but because my pockets are going to be full of other things. Zune HD + PSP Go is a great entertainment combo. Especially when it gets hacked.

I'd like to know where you got 'Primitive Features' from. PSP is widely regarded as the most powerful hand-held gaming console out.

They should just think of a way to include retailers in the revenue stream. Alongside the iPods they sell the recharge cards and accessories. Offer them a good margin on those items and consider even a system where purchases can be done and loaded onto a memory card in the store.

Lexcyn said,
The problem is it's too expensive for it to lack a UMD drive.

I agree with you. It's like a PSP Slim (and not the PSP 2000 kind). They should have priced it like the PS3 Slim compared to the PS3.

I agree the PSP Go is practically already dead on it's price alone as who in their right mind will pay nearly the price of a PS3 Slim to get a PSP Go? (I think the online distribution of games is fine, it's more convenient then going to the shop to buy the game so I think it's a plus more then a minus) I'm sure die hards will still buy it but till it has a massive price drop, I'm not touching it.

Online distro is just a bad idea unless Sony offers a way to backup the games on your computer (and in turn burn to DVD so there is a physical backup).

Hm... I never thought of retailers taking this stance, but I guess it does make sense in some ways... I still haven't seen anything all that impressive about the PSPGo... I personally think that the new game distribution model is better than the UMD's... I never liked them.

I think the fridge Analogy is very flawed

The consumer electronics store is selling appliances not food, that's what they make their money on.

However video game stores make their money selling... erm Video games, yes they make some money on the consoles, but once they've sold console that's it, if your buying direct from the publisher they don't see a cut of the money from the games, where is their incentive?


Exactly.

I'm not excited about this PSPgo, buying the first PSP was a mistake for me.
Ipod or DS lite is what I use for gaming when travelling now.

With nobody selling the device, and nobody buying it, there will soon be no developers, so it seems the ONLY use would be homebrew.

Assuming people can be bothered to jailbreak a device that nobody wants.

The Jambo said,
With nobody selling the device, and nobody buying it, there will soon be no developers, so it seems the ONLY use would be homebrew.

Assuming people can be bothered to jailbreak a device that nobody wants.


Frankly I'm suprised the original PSP made it this far. UMD sucked for movies. Find those about as good as HDDVD. So hard to say, I prefer Nintendo though. But PC over Consoles.

I'm getting a PSP-Go and that guy is wrong. My whole decision was made up when Dark Alex said "I Will Hack the PSP-Go" because PSP-Go is like Homebrew city. The only reason for this device to exist is for it to get hacked and used to full potential.

That being said I haven't updated since PSP Phat so this will also be good to see what new PSPs can do. : )

Liam Wolf said,
I'm getting a PSP-Go and that guy is wrong. My whole decision was made up when Dark Alex said "I Will Hack the PSP-Go" because PSP-Go is like Homebrew city. The only reason for this device to exist is for it to get hacked and used to full potential.

Exactly 100% correct. The PSP-GO is only at 50% of what it can do (and therefore, not worth the money to buy) until DarK AleX gets a custom firmware out for it. When there is, I will definitely buy it.

Except that you don't type in bold when writing the comment, you simply tag it as bold and everyone else must see it in bold including yourself after you've written it.

Also, everyone's post isn't bolded so how does bolding your own benefit you unless you simply like to read only your own posts? Not to break your balls or anything, just curious is all. Ctrl + mousescroll is your friend.

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@Anarkii; I've got mine Pre-ordered, but I'll probably only buy a few games when it first comes out to tide myself over till CFW comes out.

Liam Wolf said,
@Anarkii; I've got mine Pre-ordered, but I'll probably only buy a few games when it first comes out to tide myself over till CFW comes out.

I love the look of it, infact there was was a mockup of the psp2 - which looks even better of the psp-go. Ill try and link it in psp thread.

Liam Wolf said,
I Will Hack the PSP-Go" because PSP-Go is like Homebrew city.

this man speaks the truth.

once a couple exploits are made around the PSP-Go it'll end up like the iphone where 2/3 people have theres jailbroken.

Berserk87 said,
this man speaks the truth.

once a couple exploits are made around the PSP-Go it'll end up like the iphone where 2/3 people have theres jailbroken.

Yep, Yep, Sony should have just made this the open source edition. Give the normal, or mainstream, customers the PSP. Give the homebrew scene the PSP-Go.

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If someone wants to buy it, go for it, but I agree that retailers are used to having something to sell with gaming systems, namely games. I think its wrong to be bypassing this channel. At least provide a download station or something so people can still go to the store and buy it there.
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