Siri ported to iPod touch and iPhone 4

Nobody could honestly be surprised that Siri is one of the most-wanted features of the iPhone 4S, even among those who already possess an iPhone 4. For many people, changing phone is not an option at the moment; after the work of an iPhone hacker it might not even be necessary for Siri, as TechCrunch reports.

Hacker @chpwn on Twitter, posted a message reading as follows to the service:

Actually, it just worked.

It was this simple message that resulted in forty-five retweets, and also the possibility of Siri coming to older iPhones (albeit unofficially). To install Siri on an unofficially supported device it must be jailbroken. The action of installing it is shady, as it is able to somehow connect with Siri's servers even though Apple themselves would likely prefer this to be impossible. Other hackers and names within the jailbreaking community have expressed a willingness to avoid the project themselves, which highlights the significance of what has been done here.

Mark Gurman, at 9to5Mac, interviewed another iPhone jailbreaker about the news. Below is the one question that has likely been on everyone's lips. For the full interview, read the interview that has been linked.

Mark: Do you ever see Siri showing up in Cydia (or another jailbreak store) for non natively supported devices?

Steven: No, I could not be a part of that. I have no doubts that others will package this up and distribute it quasi-illegally, or try and sell it to people. I am only interested in the technology and making it work; proving that it works and works well on the iPhone 4 and other devices.

It will only be a matter of time, as Steven himself points out, until Siri finds its way across Apple's older devices, as much as Apple themselves would like to prevent it happening. Watch the two below videos for confirmation that, yes, Siri is running on Apple's older hardware.

Whether Siri will work for long on these devices is probably going to be a 'no', as Apple tries to find ways to stop them from operating, but this could be completely wrong. Anti-Apple comments on TechCrunch claim the company is trying to profit from locking out features that would work on older devices, as would be expected. Due to the community surrounding iOS however, Apple's attempts could well be questioned.

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Brian Miller said,
Apple should be sued for clocking oder and capable iPhones out. We need to form a class action law suite.

It's hardly illegal, just douchey.

Brian Miller said,
Apple should be sued for clocking oder and capable iPhones out. We need to form a class action law suite.
And then we should sue Microsoft. My Windows Vista computer is perfectly capable of running Windows 7, but I have to pay to get it. Totally unfair.

Simon said,
And then we should sue Microsoft. My Windows Vista computer is perfectly capable of running Windows 7, but I have to pay to get it. Totally unfair.
Why is it so difficult for most people to construct a valid analogy? Microsoft doesn't make you purchase a new computer in order to run Windows 7, you simply have to purchase the new OS. Just as Apple makes people purchase iOS5 for their older phones. But, you don't get the Siri feature unless you purchase the new hardware.

fuzi0719 said,
Just as Apple makes people purchase iOS5 for their older phones. But, you don't get the Siri feature unless you purchase the new hardware.

You don't buy iOS5 for the phone. Apple offers it as an upgrade.

DiamondFootprint said,

I do hope you're joking. Because if you aren't....I don't even know where to begin.


He's right. Siri was an App that worked on any iOS device. Apple bought the developer and innidiately shut down the free service and announced that it would only be enabled on iPhone 4.
It's the same as when Sony advertised the ability to run Linux on PS3 (which some scientists used) and then just removed the ability in a forced update. Only in Apple's case they've done it to force people to buy a "new" otherwize rather identical device.
For Sony it ended in a lawsuit. Don't really know if Apple will ever be put to justice.

DiamondFootprint said,

I do hope you're joking. Because if you aren't....I don't even know where to begin.


He's right. Siri was an App that worked on any iOS device. Apple bought the developer and innidiately shut down the free service and announced that it would only be enabled on iPhone 4.
It's the same as when Sony advertised the ability to run Linux on PS3 (which some scientists used) and then just removed the ability in a forced update. Only in Apple's case they've done it to force people to buy a "new" otherwize rather identical device.
For Sony it ended in a lawsuit. Don't really know if Apple will ever be put to justice.

Apple has always done this. Like when their iBook laptops could only mirror displays even though they were capable of driving two separate screens.

People were already not happy that the app would be taken from them. It seems like Apple does not have enough killer features that make having the 4S besides the faster 4G like upgrade.

Why take away a software feature... it is still in beta too. Why limited to just the newest phone. It should just be a perk of updating to latest iOS. The build actual software that the other older hardware cannot run.

This will be a PR pain for them for a minute. They should just give the people what they want. Does not need to be free... charge them for the app, and continue to let the 4S users get it for free as a perk. "Spock! Do something!" - Bones

warwagon said,
Ya apple is great at milking tits. So just sell it and make even more money off it.

You are correct. They milked OSX for over 10 years now. Where is OSXI?

jesseinsf said,

You are correct. They milked OSX for over 10 years now. Where is OSXI?

OS X has had enough updates made to it that it could probably be called OS 14 or whatever, but for some reason, they's stuck with Mac OS X 10.x.

But it's just a name used for marketing, really. (ie, Windows 7 is really Windows 6.1 and Vista was 6.0)

So, Apple does the same thing that a lot of other companies do (including Microsoft) when they launch a new product.

Intriguing. You'd almost think they were some kind of company, or something.

virtorio said,
So, Apple does the same thing that a lot of other companies do (including Microsoft) when they launch a new product.

Intriguing. You'd almost think they were some kind of company, or something.

Could you please give a few examples? I don't mean tiers of the same product with different prices (like Windows), but introducing a new product and then removing the same functionality from the existing model? Not trolling here, I am curious.

Enron said,

Could you please give a few examples? I don't mean tiers of the same product with different prices (like Windows), but introducing a new product and then removing the same functionality from the existing model? Not trolling here, I am curious.

Just want to correct you. They haven't removed functionality from the existing model. An example of a company doing that though is Sony with their OtherOS feature

Enron said,

Could you please give a few examples? I don't mean tiers of the same product with different prices (like Windows), but introducing a new product and then removing the same functionality from the existing model? Not trolling here, I am curious.


They hardly removed any OS feature present in OS4.0 if you refer to Siri.

Siri was a standalone app that was shut down in favor of bringing it to newer models with an enhanced experience.
If you find this worrisome, well go ahead, however, if you want prime examples of buying up companies and shutting down their services for good and not continuing their efforts in any manner, look elsewhere.
I won't name names, cause it's well known among a few and don't want to "troll".

GS:mac

I wasn't talking about either OS features or buying out companies. I was talking about removing something that was already publicly available and making it exclusive to a new model of the same line of devices.

E:pc

I think apple could quite easily address this and stop this if they wanted to - because they are running the service, they have the ability to implement measures on their side (perhaps with a iPhone 4S software update) that means that requests should be sent with a unique device Id (perhaps hashed) and validate that the device is an iPhone 4S. If the "hackers" start hardcoding in a device Id (as I assume these Ids are not predictable), then Apple can then just block that device Id.

From the looks of it, it works just fine on the normal iPhone 4, so why has this been locked only for the 4s?

Tony. said,
From the looks of it, it works just fine on the normal iPhone 4, so why has this been locked only for the 4s?

Hmm... i don't know, maybe to make MORE profit perhaps? iPhone 4s is crap without Siri.

It is pretty obvious that Siri is exclusive for iPhone 4S as a selling point, because there is not much reason to upgrade (for most users, iPhone 4 is powerful enough)

It was obvious from the get-go that Siri would run perfectly well on the iPhone 4 as it does on the iPhone 4S. It was only a way to move more iPhone 4S units. I think that once the initial supplies of iPhone 4S run out (which should be very soon) Apple will indeed release another update to add the feature to iPhone 4 & iPod Touch 4th Gen ... at least that's what I'm hoping.

Bahh, that's misleading, just dig a little more and you'll realize that's impractical, it requires an auth token from an actual 4S, so it will be too easy to Apple to block it.... it's worthless

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