SNotW: Anti-gay church vows to take control of Microsoft

An evangelical Christian pastor has vowed to take over Microsoft, one of the world's largest companies by packing it with shareholders who will vote against their policy of advocating gay rights. The Reverend Ken Hutcherson, a former Dallas Cowboys player is the self proclaimed head of the Antioch Bible Church, based in Redmond, the home of Microsoft's headquarters. Microsoft has a strong diversity policy and LGBT staff enjoy a well-funded employee group. Mr Hutcherson told a shareholders' meeting that he would be the company's "worst nightmare", threatening that he has the support of not only the 3,500 members of his church, but perhaps also millions of evangelical Christians and orthodox Jews.

"There are 256 Fortune 500 companies alone pouring millions upon millions of dollars into pushing the homosexual agenda," he told the Daily Telegraph. "I consider myself a warrior for Christ. Microsoft don't scare me. I got God with me." "I told them that you need to work with me or we will put a fire-storm on you like you have never seen in you life because I am your worst nightmare. I am a black man with a righteous cause with a whole host of powerful white people behind me." Asked why he as a black man grew up during segregation could advocate discrimination, Mr Hutcherson said: "How many homosexuals have you ever seen had to ride on the back of a bus? I haven't seen one. I know that many blacks have in the past.

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If Microsoft doesn't scare him then why is he wasting his time trying to force his agenda on them?

First of all, the "homosexual agenda" is something anti-gay people invented to add fuel to their own fire.

Secondly, it is well-known that people who are really insecure in their own sexuality will lash out against others in this way.

But what this really comes down to is, it's really time to erase hate from our society. Not just against homosexuals, but any form of hate. Hate only stops a multi-cultural society from flourishing. The right to freedom of thought, speech, and opinion should not be abused to the point where it harasses or promotes hatred toward anyone.

The last thing Jesus would ever want, in my opinion, is to see man promote hatred. Any religious leader who thinks he can bully a company to bend to his agenda is not only foolish but certainly has his own issues to deal with. There are simply too many religions and Biblical interpretations for any one person to say definitively what is sinful and what is not. If you think you have all the answers then you have simply closed off your mind to any other ideas.

Time is precious. Why not use it to better society than promote your own idea of what is sinful and what is not? After all, God gave us all free will and no matter how you choose to worship or how you choose to interpret the Bible, we are all able to determine our own sense of right and wrong.

Being that there are lots of devoted gay Christians in the world today it makes no sense to say that this is a "righteous cause".

LOL...religious dogma debate.
Seriously, the best way to combat these fanatics is to ignore them. Once they realize no one is paying attention to their crusade and it is meaningless to others, they have little to nothing to stand upon. But by all means, please continue the tirade. It is very entertaining.

Also, to the Christians that support this guy....you might wanna try exposing yourself to the works of Terence Mckenna, the research of Jordan Maxwell, and the Nag Hammadi Library. These might give you a clue into the actual origins of your religion, who Jesus may have been (or may NOT have been, for that matter) as well as how it's teachings have been twisted by those that seek political power.

Just saying...

Self-proclaimed head of his own deviating church? Well that says it all then. Making up HIS own rules and twisting them to say they are God's rules. In my opinion, he is a heritical cult leader trying to use a christian church for his own evil hate-mongering actions.

Of course, this doesn't excuse christianity either. It's a violent homophobic religion that has tried to squash everyone and everything that ever rose up against it since the time of...Christ? or Constantine? Not the Keanu Reeves guy, I think there was an actual king named that once. In any case, movies like the Da Vinci Code have shown a very plausable truth. Religion, especially christianity and islaam, but except buddhism, is not to be trusted anymore.

This is the modern era. Let us be unrestricted by the archaic tales and stupid rules of the older times.

EDIT: I just noticed too. That question asked at the end - he so obviously dodged it. It's just a stupid evasive attempt to justify his own malicious actions.

This ALMOST sounds like the tale over Lucifer trying to go for God' throne. And supposedly, he lost. Hopefully the same thing will happen to this ********ed heritical pastor!

Neo Razgriz said,
Self-proclaimed head of his own deviating church? Well that says it all then. Making up HIS own rules and twisting them to say they are God's rules. In my opinion, he is a heritical cult leader trying to use a christian church for his own evil hate-mongering actions.

Of course, this doesn't excuse christianity either. It's a violent homophobic religion that has tried to squash everyone and everything that ever rose up against it since the time of...Christ? or Constantine? Not the Keanu Reeves guy, I think there was an actual king named that once. In any case, movies like the Da Vinci Code have shown a very plausable truth. Religion, especially christianity and islaam, but except buddhism, is not to be trusted anymore.

This is the modern era. Let us be unrestricted by the archaic tales and stupid rules of the older times.

EDIT: I just noticed too. That question asked at the end - he so obviously dodged it. It's just a stupid evasive attempt to justify his own malicious actions.

This ALMOST sounds like the tale over Lucifer trying to go for God' throne. And supposedly, he lost. Hopefully the same thing will happen to this ********ed heritical pastor!

I agree... but I think he is doing this mainly to get his 15 mins of fame... his stupid plan wont work. Most of what he said was stupid but I love the comment of David and Goliath. He got it all wrong didnt he?. Gays, which are the minority are trying to be eliminated by most Christian churches and other religions. So he got it all wrong.

I'm sure all those 256 Fortune 500 companies are really shaking in their boots and willing to listen to some ebonics-speaking washed-up football player. I'd love to see this guy get dispatched by a mob of gays with pitchforks and torches.

Right... so decades ago, the whites persecuted the blacks and wrought them to enslavery. They fought for freedom, which they won, and rightfully so, slavery is bad! But now a black evangelical Christian pastor is targeting gays to face the same persecution his people did decades ago? Do we not learn from mistakes, or does this mean that following the bible causes us to repeat them? I'm not religious, and I've nothing against religion. I do find it sickening however that some people feel they need to push their religion on others. Nosey people! If I want to burn in hell, let me!

:P

Sorry but we are not allowed to choose any "style of life". You could say, gay is fine but then you must say that it's ok pedophile (with the consent of the child), necrophile (with the consent of the body), zoophile (whatever) and many many others.. And we don't count about "other" actions such psychosis, lunatics and such.

You have a choose, to accept in some extend the rules of the society or, to depart and living in a far place (Brokeback Mountain ;-) )


Magallanes said,
Sorry but we are not allowed to choose any "style of life". You could say, gay is fine but then you must say that it's ok pedophile (with the consent of the child), necrophile (with the consent of the body), zoophile (whatever) and many many others.. And we don't count about "other" actions such psychosis, lunatics and such.

You have a choose, to accept in some extend the rules of the society or, to depart and living in a far place (Brokeback Mountain ;-) )

huge difference between pedophilia and homosexuality buddy. Even with consent... when you are a child you don't rationalize the same. Thats why there is such thing as 18+ etc. You can never compare a child's brain with a full grown adult brain, therefore pedophilia and homosexuality cannot be put under the same category.

Or instead of Brokeback Mountain, you could move to Canada where we are mature enough to accept same-sex marriage as a non-issue.

Wow... This is simply amazing.

"How many homosexuals have you ever seen had to ride on the back of a bus? I haven't seen one. I know that many blacks have in the past."
I choose to respond with a set of questions: How many blacks have you seen turned away from jobs JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK or beaten JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE BLACK? Is that not discrimination? Why would someone who grew up in a time of discrimination against people his color ADVOCATE discrimination against others?

I have another quote:
"I want young men and young women who are alive today to know and see that these new privileges and opportunities did not come without somebody suffering and sacrificing for them."
-- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Times have changed, right? That's the response the anti-gay reverend might give, isn't it? Well, the creator of the animated series "The Boondocks" acknowledged that change when he chose to bring Dr. King back to life in his series. He made sure to keep Dr. King's characterization accurate until a certain breaking point. He tried to quiet the commotion, but to no avail. He was left with one choice. He said one thing out of frustration, which I shall not repeat as it is insulting to some, and then broke into a speech. Simply put, what he saw was something that made him feel as though they should be ashamed of themselves, and he made sure that they knew their shame too.

While the show does not provide an accurate portrayal of all blacks, that episode "Return of the King" most definitely provides something to think about.

*stabs poster #32.3 with a large machette*

It's that kind of attitude that is ruining the world. Just like this stupid idiot saying he will take over Microsoft.

With all of the resources at Bill Gates' deposal, he could wipe out these homophobic hate-mongerers from doing anything!

This stupid idiot reverend has no idea about anything beyond his own sense of hate and malice and evil.

Who would want to pray to or worship a homophobic god anyway??

Neo Razgriz said,
*stabs poster #32.3 with a large machette*

It's that kind of attitude that is ruining the world. Just like this stupid idiot saying he will take over Microsoft.

With all of the resources at Bill Gates' deposal, he could wipe out these homophobic hate-mongerers from doing anything!

This stupid idiot reverend has no idea about anything beyond his own sense of hate and malice and evil.

Who would want to pray to or worship a homophobic god anyway??

James Riske spams alt.politics.homosexuality with his homophobic diatribes; when he isn't bashing gays he's hating women and non-Europeans; basically he is a hate monger.

Probably wasn't beaten enough when he was a child.

Judge not lest ye be judged , Love thy neighbor , turn the other cheek ... are these not all bible statements of toleration I don't ever remember reading in there anything that says persecute anyone that is different from you. So I think this guy needs to grow up and stop being a FUD monger

from their website:

Antioch is...
» a church for all people, of all cultures, races, backgrounds.

sounds like the pastor has gotten off message...

and it cracks me up to no end when morons use the phrase 'homosexual agenda.' like gays wake up in the morning and plot how they're gonna convert the rest of the world. agenda, my ass.

Antioch is...
» a church for all people, of all cultures, races, backgrounds.
» a church where diversity of worship styles is the norm.
» a church where God's Word, the Bible, is the authority.
» a church where every member is a minister.
» a church which aims to transform the entire community.
» a church where people are first, programs are second, and facilities are third.
» a church in which your preconceived ideas of what a church is all about may be challenged!

Geeze, I wonder where the disclaimer is... I can't find it? Or maybe it is that last point... Who knows?!

I know, it's freaking stupid of these evangelical morons who have nothing to do but hold "masses" where they brainwash people into using God as an excuse to control things. It sickens me that these groups are not shut down so that we will not have people drawn into their clan of freaks. And they are the ones talking about gays' agenda....Please.....A church should be a place where anyone can enter and be welcomed and greeted and allowed to choose their on faith, not something that is forced upon people. Get a frigging life, evangelical a-holes!

shmengie said,
from their website:

sounds like the pastor has gotten off message...

and it cracks me up to no end when morons use the phrase 'homosexual agenda.' like gays wake up in the morning and plot how they're gonna convert the rest of the world. agenda, my ass.


Homosexual activists regularly "plot" on how to force people into tolerating their twisted existence because they know, as you and most people know, that despising a homosexual for being a homosexual is a perfectly normal and natural reaction, it is only due to the liberal media by which you are constantly fed lie after lie about homosexuals that you feel the need to "accept" them as being normal.

"Homosexual activists regularly "plot" on how to force people into tolerating their twisted existence because they know, as you and most people know, that despising a homosexual for being a homosexual is a perfectly normal and natural reaction, it is only due to the liberal media by which you are constantly fed lie after lie about homosexuals that you feel the need to "accept" them as being normal."

Rightttt... Yes, I wake up every morning praying for God to convert a homosexual to the upright Christian way. We used to believe in a good public hanging but we are more godly now. If God and his son Jesus can not protect us however, my community has a backup plan. In case of emergency, I or one of my fellow brothers who has been trained in the art of the gay radar will run up and down the streets screaming the gays are coming, the gays are coming, Jesus help us the gays are coming. Afterwards, I will go home to my girlfriend and watch manly sports like football and soccer, which come to think of it are a bit, well... queer.

On the off chance that your comment was being serious... well frankly I am not sure what to say. Education? Oh, wait that might to a liberal place too (huh, well you can always wait for the rapture).

I'm sure if you could ask God what "normal" is he wouldn't say "despising homosexuals".

But this guy thinks he has all the answers.

This outburst is his way of saying, I wish I could get some of Microsoft's Billions, but if I can't get it, I will just be jealous and attack them. How original?

I wouldn't be surprised if he is a closeted homosexual just like so many in Washington who speak out against the orientation, Larry Craig and that outed pastor from Colorado and Foley are a few of the hypocrites who come to mind.

unbelievable :mad:
such people like this crazy pastor should not even be allowed to ride on the back of a bus, they should be thrown out and then the bus-driver (esp. if he is gay) should kick in the reverse gear and finish the job .... :P

now a question: any seriousity in this article or can i just ignore it and buy some ms stocks tomorrow as planned? :worried:

I have a gay friend who once told me how sick he was of the sexual preference concept. I thought it was pretty interesting what he had to say:

Quote - My gay friend said:
Sexual “preference”? Yeah, right! I “chose” to be gay; I “chose” to live a lifestyle where I'm mocked and reviled and even occasionally beaten for being for who I am. I “chose” a lifestyle that my church tells me is a perversion and an affront to God.

If individuals get to choose their brand of sexuality, what person in his right mind would “choose” to be gay?! I didn't make any such choice! I knew which way my dong was pointing by the time I was eight years old, and there wasn't anything I could do about it.

I did everything I could to live a “normal” lifestyle. I even got married! But it just didn't work. I'm gay, and that's just the way it is. For good or ill, God made me the way I am; if people are going to blame someone for that, they better be blaming God!

Frankly, I think everyone knows that there isn't any “choice” here. What person – straight or gay – can honestly say that at some point in his or her life he or she made a conscious decision to be one way or the other?

“Um, let's see; it's time to choose my sexual preference; which one should I choose? Hmmm... (tap, tap, tap) ...I think I'll be straight. No! Wait! Gay sounds so much more fun and stylish!! That's what I'll be!”

Does anyone here actually remember making any such “choice”?

Of course not.

your friend got a very good point that should be thrown at this ******'s (that idiot from the news article, not your friend) face!
i as a liberal human cannot feel anything other than anger for this .... person. ough.
sometimes tough to stay in forum rules, really.

Glassed Silver:mac

Your buddy is 100% correct. Unfortunately, that won't persuade the haters. As far as they're concerned, homosexuals DO choose to be that way consciously, and nothing you can tell most of them will persuade them any different.

They're just a bunch of haters who hide behind religion as a reason to hate. IMO, their rhetoric should be treated like ANY other hate crime; arrest and imprisonment.

Octol said,
I have a gay friend who once told me how sick he was of the sexual preference concept. I thought it was pretty interesting what he had to say:

Frankly, I think everyone knows that there isn't any “choice” here. What person – straight or gay – can honestly say that at some point in his or her life he or she made a conscious decision to be one way or the other?

“Um, let's see; it's time to choose my sexual preference; which one should I choose? Hmmm... (tap, tap, tap) ...I think I'll be straight. No! Wait! Gay sounds so much more fun and stylish!! That's what I'll be!”

Does anyone here actually remember making any such “choice”?

Of course not.


People are not "born" gay just as a doctor is not "born" a doctor.
The whole "born gay" theory was completely demolished long ago by various peer-reviewed studies on gays and identical twins and studies on youths where it was found that homosexuality is 100% environmental.
The liberals media will fight tooth and nail to suppress this stark, simple fact.

So if a person chooses to be gay that would be a problem? The last time I checked an individuals does have rights when living in a free society. Do we really want to go back to regulating behavior between consenting adults?

By the way, could you provide links and, or citation of these peer reviewed studies that show that these is no biological determining factors to being a homosexual? We are not actually talking about a gay gene, that would be almost impossible, but I would love to see these studies that show that it is all learned behavior. It would be interesting to me given that I have not honestly kept up on the research (though I did take a number of psychology and biology classes while I was an undergraduate).

James Riske said,
People are not "born" gay just as a doctor is not "born" a doctor.
The whole "born gay" theory was completely demolished long ago by various peer-reviewed studies on gays and identical twins and studies on youths where it was found that homosexuality is 100% environmental.
The liberals media will fight tooth and nail to suppress this stark, simple fact.

Even if people aren't "born" gay, that still doesn't make it a choice. Your statement doesn't contradict the original poster at all; "environmental" factors aren't a choice.

Plus remember that "born gay" wouldn't just include genes, but also conditions in the womb.

Regarding the term "preference"... I can't stand it. Do straight guys people simply "prefer" women? Do gay guys simply "prefer" men? The word "preference" indicates that you like one over the other (e.g. gentlemen prefer blondes, but will still do it with brunettes).

The proper word is "orientation" -- a straight person is only attracted to the opposite sex; a gay person is only attracted to the same sex.

Octol said,
I have a gay friend who once told me how sick he was of the sexual preference concept. I thought it was pretty interesting what he had to say:

Just a pity excuse can is able to justify everything.

James Riske said,


People are not "born" gay just as a doctor is not "born" a doctor.
The whole "born gay" theory was completely demolished long ago by various peer-reviewed studies on gays and identical twins and studies on youths where it was found that homosexuality is 100% environmental.
The liberals media will fight tooth and nail to suppress this stark, simple fact.

Which studies? for everyone study in one direction, there is one pointing in another direction; one thing that can be established is that we didn't consciously wake up one day and decide to be gay - we didn't go through a flip chart and decide our sexual orientation.

Liberals? did you say that in the usual way of frothing at the mouth and head spinning? claiming that there is a global liberal conspiracy; I'm surprised you haven't thrown in the Priory of Zion and claim there is a global Jewish conspiracy to top off the lunacy.

kaiwai said,
People are not "born" gay just as a doctor is not "born" a doctor.
The whole "born gay" theory was completely demolished long ago by various peer-reviewed studies on gays and identical twins and studies on youths where it was found that homosexuality is 100% environmental.
The liberals media will fight tooth and nail to suppress this stark, simple fact.

Don't overstate please. We can split gays in two major groups: a) Genetic gays - people who were born that way because of clear genetic disorder (transgenders) and b) psychological gays - people who become gays because of social reasons. There always can be mix of both. I understand and respect both groups fully. But I am not so keen when "psychological gays" tries to pretend that their "gayness" is genetic one and then starts to act as drag queens like all real women are some sluts with feathers.

James Riske said,
People are not "born" gay just as a doctor is not "born" a doctor.
The whole "born gay" theory was completely demolished long ago by various peer-reviewed studies on gays and identical twins and studies on youths where it was found that homosexuality is 100% environmental.
The liberals media will fight tooth and nail to suppress this stark, simple fact.

Actually I was just reading on my psychology book that studies have shown some genetic code at the end of the DNA that some gay twins share they said its not the "gay gene" but they are studying it. Also statistically when one brother is gay there is a 50% that the other one will be gay... meaning that 50% could be genetics while the other 50% could be environmental. Either way being gay doesn't make a person less than any other. Whoever says that studies say that they proved 100% that being gay has nothing to do with genetics they are idiots because everything that has to do with sexuality goes on in the brain and last i heard we know almost nothing about what goes on in there. :nuts:

So stop the hate and inform yourself!

Microsoft don't scare me. I got God with me.

"God" can't save you from a lawsuit that can bankrupt you and force you to live on the streets.

balupton said,
hahaha, classic. Who knows, God works in mysterious ways remember ;)

Notice that the gay neighbour in New Orleans was the least damaged?

I don't known who is the worst, those anti-gay sponsored by the ("word of the Big Boss") bible, or those pro-gay with the "mother nature" (born gay is too natural) from their part.

Why doesn't he just get over it and come out of the closet. It is shown that the majority of these homophobes turn out to be gay themselves and do this sort of thing to try and deny what they are because they are taught that being gay is evil.

Foub said,
Why doesn't he just get over it and come out of the closet. It is shown that the majority of these homophobes turn out to be gay themselves and do this sort of thing to try and deny what they are because they are taught that being gay is evil.

As already explained, people who naturally despise homosexuals are not really homosexuals themselves just as people who naturally despise pedophiles are not really pedophiles.

James Riske said,

As already explained, people who naturally despise homosexuals are not really homosexuals themselves just as people who naturally despise pedophiles are not really pedophiles.

Unless you're Mark Foley. "Once known as a crusader against child abuse and exploitation, Foley resigned from Congress on September 29, 2006 after allegations surfaced that he had sent suggestive emails and sexually explicit instant messages to teenaged boys who had formerly served and were at that time serving as Congressional pages." (Wikipedia)

Between Foley, Haggard, and Craig, I think Foub's statement has a lot of truth to it.

Just one more reason why organised religion as a whole should be outlawed.

Get back to the streets and help people who need it instead of alienating the people who put money in your coffers.

Haha

Oh wow

Gotta giggle at the church's line on this kind of thing, basically, "let's use our personal interpretations of the bible as a pretext to spread hate wherever possible".

"Hate hate hate! Do as we say! give us 'donations', for financially backed hate!"

I wish I could laugh these kinds of things off, but there's so many people who are just indoctrinated into believing what they're told to believe by the church from a young age, it's painful to think about.

That's a different group. The people that protest funerals are from Westboro Baptist Church with Reverend Phelps as their "leader."

For this to work they'd have to get rid of the majority of the share holders wouldn't they? And those are who again? they'd never sell off their stock like this too much at stake for them... it takes more then just buying up some stock... there are how many millions of shares out there? it'd cost them BILLIONS of dollars to have any effect on them

Berserk87 said,
do you realize how easily they could raise that much if they got the full support of other evangelical churches?

If the evangelical churches pooled money to buy out Microsoft what would they use to try to foul the government?

May I ask why is it Microsoft and Microsoft only that gets the flak? Ah yes, I know. Because if it was their local neighbourhood corporation the world/media won't give a tenth of a damn. :rolleyes:

Seriously I hate both sides. The side that pushes for radical BS equality rights here and there and these anti-homosexuality protesters who, among other things, protest at funerals. x)

Justin- said,
I'm an Evangelical Christian, and while I agree with him that homosexuality is certainly a sin, I do not support this. With this, we just change the hearts of people to hate. We're supposed to be showing love and pouring it out to other people ...

This is a more "neutral" site that has more information about it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...6/wmicro116.xml ...

A peaceful change of people's hearts away from sin is the way, you are right.

Mav Phoenix said,

A peaceful change of people's hearts away from sin is the way, you are right.

or how about let everyone live how they want to, instead of telling them what they are doing right or wrong. After all we have free will :)

btw if this the pastor... can anyone tell him to get out of the closet please? :P

oh and also someone please remind him that gluttony is a sin

Proverbs 23:20-21 warns us, "Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags." Proverbs 28:7 declares, "He who keeps the law is a discerning son, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father." Proverbs 23:2 proclaims, "put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."

Justin- said,
I'm an Evangelical Christian, and while I agree with him that homosexuality is certainly a sin, I do not support this. With this, we just change the hearts of people to hate. We're supposed to be showing love and pouring it out to other people ...

I hate to break it to you, but if you want to go around telling people that they're sinning and will suffer eternal damnation, you're not showing a whole lot of love. I think that a large part of the reason why Christianity earns itself such ire is because people hate that haughty attitude. It is most certainly not the display of love and tolerance that I keep hearing Christians claim that they're preaching. Perhaps instead of working so hard to keep the rest of us from "sinning" and "going to hell," a good majority of Christians should be a bit more concerned with themselves.

Ledgem said,

I hate to break it to you, but if you want to go around telling people that they're sinning and will suffer eternal damnation, you're not showing a whole lot of love. I think that a large part of the reason why Christianity earns itself such ire is because people hate that haughty attitude. It is most certainly not the display of love and tolerance that I keep hearing Christians claim that they're preaching. Perhaps instead of working so hard to keep the rest of us from "sinning" and "going to hell," a good majority of Christians should be a bit more concerned with themselves.

Yes, they should be. Unless it's actually illegal to be a Christian and saying you're a Christian can earn you a death sentence, you're always going to have people who live however they wish and try to change peoples hearts in ways contrary to their own.

However, I'm not going around telling people that and trying to say I'm any better than you, or anyone else. According to the Bible, I am just as guilty of death (hell) due to my sin as everyone else is to theirs. Christ came to save people from that death due to that sin.

I want you to see who Christ is, but I cannot change your heart.

(ozzieXP said @ #11.2)
oh and also someone please remind him that gluttony is a sin

Proverbs 23:20-21 warns us, "Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags." Proverbs 28:7 declares, "He who keeps the law is a discerning son, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father." Proverbs 23:2 proclaims, "put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."

From that picture you can tell that he is a glutton?

I don't see why they have to force their religion on others? Surely that is illegal for some reason... Can't they just hate homosexuals within their community...

As I perceive the whole "you are going to have a eternity of your worst nightmare awaiting you when you die" a huge threat... It is just like saying "I am going to torture you"...

How could anyone believe in such a hateful god? Seems to me that extremists just like this guy are who wrote those sacred verses that make god hateful... And it takes a messiah to show them they are wrong... In which case the circle starts again...

Justin- said,
I'm an Evangelical Christian, and while I agree with him that homosexuality is certainly a sin, I do not support this. With this, we just change the hearts of people to hate. We're supposed to be showing love and pouring it out to other people ...

This is a more "neutral" site that has more information about it:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...6/wmicro116.xml ...

Explain to me why the relationship with my boyfriend is sinful? is it the fact we don't breeeeeeeeeeeeed? you realise there is nothing particularly special about breeding?

Ledgem said,

I hate to break it to you, but if you want to go around telling people that they're sinning and will suffer eternal damnation, you're not showing a whole lot of love. I think that a large part of the reason why Christianity earns itself such ire is because people hate that haughty attitude. It is most certainly not the display of love and tolerance that I keep hearing Christians claim that they're preaching. Perhaps instead of working so hard to keep the rest of us from "sinning" and "going to hell," a good majority of Christians should be a bit more concerned with themselves.

I wish these christians took the advice of an old Orthodox Rabbi who was talking to a young student who wanted to change the world, he found it took difficult, so he tried to change his country, county, city, suburb, neighbourhood then realised that to change the world, he should start at home and change himself first.

Justin- said,
From that picture you can tell that he is a glutton?

oh he's got many others online very huge belly lol

Who exactly is this mad man again, and why should we take the ravings of a person who likely is suffering from some form of mental illness seriously (Christ warrior, WTF... how exactly is that the Prince of Peace, whatever)?

It's things like this that make me ashamed of being part of the church: they never learn. I respect God with all of my heart, and I know that the church is not doing what Jesus would have done, or what god believes.

Hence the problem of these radicals. Motivated by money donations and seeking media attention.

Our local neighbourhood churches are ten times better for the work they do than these morons.

simon360 said,
It's things like this that make me ashamed of being part of the church: they never learn. I respect God with all of my heart, and I know that the church is not doing what Jesus would have done, or what god believes.

If you respect gawd with all your heart then why can't you understand his word? he specifically tells you in many different parts of his bible that he is against homosexuality.
Jesus may not have said anything for or against homosexuality however his disciples sure did and so did his father many times, if a church decides to remind people that homosexuality is wrong (and it is) then why should that make you ashamed or do you simply disagree with the manner in which they are demonstrating?

James Riske said,

If you respect gawd with all your heart then why can't you understand his word? he specifically tells you in many different parts of his bible that he is against homosexuality.
Jesus may not have said anything for or against homosexuality however his disciples sure did and so did his father many times, if a church decides to remind people that homosexuality is wrong (and it is) then why should that make you ashamed or do you simply disagree with the manner in which they are demonstrating?

Thanks for speaking up, you're right on. "gawd"?

James Riske said,

If you respect gawd with all your heart then why can't you understand his word? he specifically tells you in many different parts of his bible that he is against homosexuality.
Jesus may not have said anything for or against homosexuality however his disciples sure did and so did his father many times, if a church decides to remind people that homosexuality is wrong (and it is) then why should that make you ashamed or do you simply disagree with the manner in which they are demonstrating?

And its wrong to work on Saturdays and eating pork and many other things you and many others don't follow... why? because everyone adapts to their favorite part... and some Christians LOVE to HATE gay people. And im sure "Jesus" would not have wasted tons of money in stupid things like this.

Anyway... since you believe so much in the Bible do some research about it and you will see how manipulated it has been throughout the years... and then if you prefer to be blind and believe all the bull**** that they tell you at church then it will be your choice.

James Riske said,

If you respect gawd with all your heart then why can't you understand his word? he specifically tells you in many different parts of his bible that he is against homosexuality.
Jesus may not have said anything for or against homosexuality however his disciples sure did and so did his father many times, if a church decides to remind people that homosexuality is wrong (and it is) then why should that make you ashamed or do you simply disagree with the manner in which they are demonstrating?

2 things:
God loves everyone
Sin is sin, and we're all guilty of it.

I'm also ashamed because some people seem hell bent on putting some groups on a cross when they themselves also live in sin, daily. I believe we're all familiar with the analogy of the log.

James Riske said,
If you respect gawd with all your heart then why can't you understand his word? he specifically tells you in many different parts of his bible that he is against homosexuality.
Jesus may not have said anything for or against homosexuality however his disciples sure did and so did his father many times, if a church decides to remind people that homosexuality is wrong (and it is) then why should that make you ashamed or do you simply disagree with the manner in which they are demonstrating?

Correction. Various mentally challenged people said things against homosexuals and wrote it in a book amongst a load of other random dribble. God didn't say a damn thing because "he's" an anthropomorphic personification of human belief and doesn't actually exist.

thornz0 said,
2 things:
God loves everyone
Sin is sin, and we're all guilty of it.
Depends which god/religion you believe in. I think you have taken the more general/abstract route...

Microsoft seems to always be in some war or another. First the Desktop Wars, then the Browser wars and now they are in a war against God :O

I wonder though, can God withstand the almighty Blue Screen of Death?

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE.

This is not against God, the Reverend can say "I got God with me" all he wants but dont confuse this as a war against God.

Doli said,
This is not against God, the Reverend can say "I got God with me" all he wants but dont confuse this as a war against God.

It was a joke >_>

Sounds like O.J. Simpson, 'I am a black man above the law, you try sue me I get out the race card'.

I ride at the back of the bus, I even ride with my best friend, a black lesbian.

I bet this muppet is a closet homesexual that is also vexed he could not fit into the sheet and pillow case the k.k.k. wear.

I wish this kind of nonsense was not posted here but left to the tabloids jerks like him would read.

leesmithg said,
I bet this muppet is a closet homesexual that is also vexed he could not fit into the sheet and pillow case the k.k.k. wear.

People who naturally despise homosexuals are not really homosexual themselves just as people who naturally despise pedophiles are not really closet pedophiles.

James Riske said,

People who naturally despise homosexuals are not really homosexual themselves just as people who naturally despise pedophiles are not really closet pedophiles.

You are right, however I don't think you should be putting homosexuals in the same boat as pedophiles...

Mikeyx11 said,
You are right, however I don't think you should be putting homosexuals in the same boat as pedophiles...

biblically speaking they are in the same boat.

under sexual immorality.

~waits for angry comments...

Berserk87 said,

biblically speaking they are in the same boat.

under sexual immorality.

~waits for angry comments...

Ever cut your hair? Or your beard? Or look at your neighbor's wife/daughter? (The list is MUCH longer than that, BTW.) You'd be put to death along with us homosexuals according to Leviticus, so drop the bible thumping, eh?

rofl @ gay ads, they say it all really, time for people to get over their prejudices, I don't think Jesus ever spoke out about homosexuality, people forget that he was a revolutionary who spoke out against people who were eager to point fingers and take down someone different. In the end, those such people killed him.

Shiranui said,
Read your bible. The justification for this, and many other evils, is all there.

Problem:

Old testament refer to raping and sexual acts in regards to pagan rituals. Paul repeats the same thing - too bad people thing that what Paul rants on about equates to what Jesus says.

Ps. I'm not a Christian, just someone who read the bible.

WTF? this guy needs to get a life
not to mention that microsoft has nothing to do with homosexuals at all

fanaticism at its best

Asked why he as a black man grew up during segregation could advocate discrimination, Mr Hutcherson said: "How many homosexuals have you ever seen had to ride on the back of a bus? I haven't seen one. I know that many blacks have in the past.

Because we (im black) have more discrimination in our past makes it alright to discriminate gays? Hell No!