Snowden reveals how GCHQ used "dirty tricks" on their targets

Documents previously leaked by whistleblower Ed Snowden were further revealed yesterday by NBC News. The documents revelations include some of the "underground" tactics GCHQ (a British intelligence agency) used to lure targets into a vulnerable position. Some of these victims included journalists, anonymous activists, hackers and even nations.

According to the documents, British spies have developed methods of "destroying", "denying" and "degrading enemies" by discrediting them through propaganda and communication failure (phone bombardment and email disruption). Other creative methods are described, including setting up fake blogs, posting on targets social networking sites, and luring targets into sexual engagements (commonly known as the honey trap).


Eric King, a professor of IT Law at the London School Of Economics claimed it was "remarkable" that the cyber protection unit in Britain had such a right to invade targets in an aggressive manner. He went on to say how "Hacking is one of the most invasive methods of surveillance" hinting even GCHQ didn't have the right.

Intelligence officials stood up for the actions that caused such controversy, and stated that the actions were an appropriate response to the illegal acts. One official furthered his point by claiming that British spies were "slightly ahead" of U.S spies when using aggression against targets. The PowerPoint documents also reveal viruses that GCHQ used on suspects, deleting all their emails, encrypting files and making the screen shake as well as preventing the user from logging on.

These documents were obtained by NBC News from Ed Snowden, and came in form of 2 PowerPoint's. They can be located in the above links and are definitely worth a look.

Also check out First Look Media - Who are set to publish more NSA secret documents

Source: NBC News | Images via msnbcmedia.msn.com

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The sad thing is they could reveal we've all been microchipped so they can track us 24/7 and whilst people would be outraged initially the majority of citizens wouldn't do anything other than post on their social networks and then go about their day...

Truth is this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better because people just don't care. Theres not even enough concern for an opposition party in one of these western states to take up the cause because not enough people care.

People will rage if you try to put a firewall around your country but monitoring invading your privacy 24/7 is cool haha.

Our brains are types of micro chips, based on organic material, and built into all living creatures since birth. They already have ability to tap and track us via our brainwaves alone, reading our unique signatures, tapping our thoughts with long range radar/satellite systems, and they even commit remote attacks using directed energy.

Edited by zhangm, Feb 10 2014, 5:35am :

Osiris said,
The sad thing is they could reveal we've all been microchipped so they can track us 24/7 and whilst people would be outraged initially the majority of citizens wouldn't do anything other than post on their social networks and then go about their day...

Truth is this is going to get a lot worse before it gets any better because people just don't care. Theres not even enough concern for an opposition party in one of these western states to take up the cause because not enough people care.

People will rage if you try to put a firewall around your country but monitoring invading your privacy 24/7 is cool haha.


sad but mostly true

I care a lot, more info needs to be sent out in a steady fashion like it is now. Keep it in the news cycle, and keep it fresh on people's minds.

LightEco said,
Does anyone care anymore? Snowden is just trying to stay relevant in this short-attention span world.

Actually, the fact that most people didn't care in the first place is more worrisome...

LightEco said,
Snowden is just trying to stay relevant in this short-attention span world.

he isn't doing anything though, he leaked the documents initially but the media are just letting them trickle out one at a time, or it could be that there are so many document to look through that it takes this long for them to compile and report on the findings.

Its not going to make any difference. People will get all up about it now. Governments will make fake gestures about improving it, but it will continue to happen.

Look at the progress this has made so far - The NSA continues its programs, funding is at full levels, and even officials have said it will continue.

You can think this is going to change anything, but I'm sorry to say you are sorely mistaken.

LightEco said,
Its not going to make any difference. People will get all up about it now. Governments will make fake gestures about improving it, but it will continue to happen.

Look at the progress this has made so far - The NSA continues its programs, funding is at full levels, and even officials have said it will continue.

You can think this is going to change anything, but I'm sorry to say you are sorely mistaken.

Thank god people in the 50/60's didn't think the same way when black people were being lynched and they were burning crosses. I can imagine it now. "Well we asked them to stop being nasty but they are still mean so we did our best but duck it **** happens..."

Just think where we would have been if people hadn't appeased the Nazi's.

The low behavior just keeps getting lower and lower. If GCHQ are using methods that are not legal then someone needs there ass kicking. I dont suppose it will happen, i am wondering what will have to happen before people say no. But while there is crap distraction stuff on the TV nothing will change.

TrekRich said,
The low behavior just keeps getting lower and lower. If GCHQ are using methods that are not legal then someone needs there ass kicking. I dont suppose it will happen, i am wondering what will have to happen before people say no. But while there is crap distraction stuff on the TV nothing will change.

I think palming this kind of stuff on "the people" not standing against it is pretty short-cited. Just saying "no" won't change anything. I imagine plenty of people say "no".

Clearly, the NSA and GCHQ make prank phone calls when you would think they could just turn off someone's phone/internet service instead.

Looks like all of it's 'true' to one degree or another. For one, no one is denying the claimsfor two, falsifying documents like these would take a lot of time and a brilliant imagination, and for three, the authorities wouldn't have made Snowden an enemy of the state/ world if all this were just made up.

Edward Snowden needs to stop recycling unsurprising information and feeding it to the 24 hour news networks as "new" and "top secret". The stuff written on that "official" Powerpoint slide is nothing new. People have been doing that for decades. The news media needs to stop eating up every "leak" this guy puts out there.

You seem unaware of the fact Snowden isn't and hasn't been feeding them anything for months, this is still the on going cycle from his full dump to a handful of media orgs last year, it was their plan (and a smart one) to dribble all this stuff out over a long period of time as they work through it all.

Depicus said,

Maybe you need to look up the definition of news.

The 'dirty tricks' are tools that have been used for decades and things companies/people should ALREADY be protecting themselves from.

It is bad these people were doing this crap, but it is a rather low tech list of childish crap.

The disconnect in what has been going on and why it is only now they are making it 'news' again. Virtually every bit of information Snowden provided has been talked about, reported, and known for over a decade, and some things for nearly 50 years.

This isn't NEWS, this is known information getting replayed for people that weren't paying attention the first 50 years.

Well by that definition we would not brother reporting murders any more because they have been going on for 1000's of years.

It's not the fact that these things haven't happened before it's that MY government has been breaking our laws in the defence of I'm not really sure what while at the same time sending people to jail for the same things.

Now we may have suspected these things but this is, to my knowledge, the first time we have had evidence. So yes this is news.

It's news because it's confirmation, we can hold them accountable for their actions instead of just speculating about rumors. It's not OK for them to break their own laws and hold different people to different standards. Just because something has been going on for many years behind our backs does not mean we should turn a blind eye.

It's not really confirmation though. Edward Snowden could say the NSA has mutated turtles that can use ninja weapons, but that doesn't confirm anything. It's kind of like when they get those "ex military official" guys on the UFO documentary saying they have alien technology under study.

Geezy said,
It's news because it's confirmation, we can hold them accountable for their actions instead of just speculating about rumors. It's not OK for them to break their own laws and hold different people to different standards. Just because something has been going on for many years behind our backs does not mean we should turn a blind eye.

However, it really isn't confirmation.

Additionally, the NSA/CIA has admitted to 99.99% of everything that has been reported. Even going back to the 90s when the NSA was declassifying technology from the 70s/80s, they and their tech contractors showcased and demonstrated the technologies they had been using.

You can literally fin documentaries on History, TLC, Science channel episodes from the 90s that demonstrate things that are EVEN BEYOND what Snowden and other are reporting.

This IS something people should be paying attention to, but it is NOT NEW, and it is something they should have been paying attention to 30 years ago and following, instead of having a snit about it now.


The other side issue is that as technology progresses, privacy will start to disappear completely, and it a bigger discussion that society needs to have.

Our 'personal' privacy is more of an illusion than what we want to admit. A consumer drone and infrared cameras that relay and map in realtime are available. And your neighbor can use this to watch you kiss your husband/wife through your ceiling/walls and be on the other side of the world controlling the off the shelf drone.

In the 80s, RF spying was easy and was used to monitor what users were viewing on their screens, and it is still used and works.

Unless your house is sealed and encased in lead with additional heat absorption, you have no privacy.

What we store online is subject to spying when transmitted. So even if we trust Microsoft which has damn good privacy protection and encryption on their servers, they still can't protect the bits flowing from our PC to their servers when most encryption has been compromised by the NSA.

Society also needs to step back and have a discussion about giving information to corporate entities that admittedly use it for financial gain and to control governments and the markets.

Google bought into Lenovo based on information they learned from spying on their customers, and it technically is insider trading, but at a very advanced level.

We have to say NO to corporations monitoring and using our 'collective' information, as they are building more power than countries, and using an old term, truly is fascism.

Sure, but for some reason, people thought this stuff was tinfoil hat ravings before wikileaks and whistleblowers.org existed, before Assange and Snowden became famous. Perhaps it's just fallen into fashion, but I think after the restrictions sanctioned internationally post-9/11 (a la TSA etc), there is a common thread tying the entire world together and we are all getting sick of it at the same time.

Geezy said,
Sure, but for some reason, people thought this stuff was tinfoil hat ravings before wikileaks and whistleblowers.org existed, before Assange and Snowden became famous. Perhaps it's just fallen into fashion, but I think after the restrictions sanctioned internationally post-9/11 (a la TSA etc), there is a common thread tying the entire world together and we are all getting sick of it at the same time.

True, a lot of people discounted it or never extrapolated what it really meant.

The world should have been talking about it 30 years ago, or 20 years ago, or even 10 years ago when Bush was being sued for warrantless wiretaps that ended up at the Supreme Court in the US. They didn't pay attention then, and the information was there.

In just 2002-2005 there was plenty of sources on the addition of PRISM and NSA changes, the dumping of ATT's fiber to the NSA, the planning for data centers. Even the Utah data center that is getting a lot of attention was planned and budgeted before 2006, and it took until 2013 before anyone even noticed it was happening.

timster said,
fax machine? they must think we're all back in 1995

you know how much businesses still use fax machines and online faxing now?... heck we send about 20,000 faxes a month where I work.... to other businesses that want faxes

What do most people need to fax from the UPS Store?

My guess is it's because a lot of companies are refusing to adapt to digital signatures. I think one companies get on that bandwagon...fax machines will go the way of floppy disks.

texasghost said,
What do most people need to fax from the UPS Store?

My guess is it's because a lot of companies are refusing to adapt to digital signatures. I think one companies get on that bandwagon...fax machines will go the way of floppy disks.

Most digital communication can be discoverable... just saying.

neufuse said,

you know how much businesses still use fax machines and online faxing now?... heck we send about 20,000 faxes a month where I work.... to other businesses that want faxes


Yep. Some incredibly large companies still rely on faxes... Additionally, many have integrated them into their IT Infrastructure, so flooding a fax number can have other ramifications.

M_Lyons10 said,

Yep. Some incredibly large companies still rely on faxes... Additionally, many have integrated them into their IT Infrastructure, so flooding a fax number can have other ramifications.

Not to mention if you find out who is repeatedly spamming you and you already have a lawyer on staff, you can make some cash, up to 1000$ per instance as I recall, a former employer of mine some years ago netted 20k (out of ~35 in settlements, about 15k went to the lawyer) by going after repeated fax spammers. We'd finally gotten fed up with it and teamed up with an outside lawyer buddy of one of my co-workers. Was nice, company made some money, lawyer made some money, and the lawyer friend on the side put $2000 away for our netops team to have a kickass party for giving him the business.