Thanks to Sushubh for letting us know that the first beta of Opera 8 has been posted to their FTP servers.
Opera is an Internet browser with a pop-up blocker, multiple-windows navigation, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts, e-mail client with Spam filter, and integrated search all for user security and speed. The cross-platform browser includes a multitude of other functions such as integrated built-in e-mail client, IRC-compatible chat, support for RSS newsfeeds, password manager, one-click customization and privacy protection settings.
Mouse gestures and keyboard shortcuts allow for accelerated Web navigation while the Fast Forward and Rewind buttons ease browsing. Users are able to run multiple windows as well as personalize the user interface with one-click skins. The browser also contains special elements for users with disabilities, drag-and-drop support, a notes function, user profiles, and a host of other features. Opera supports the latest in security and provides password and cookie managers.
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Download: Opera 8 Beta 1 | Mirrors
News source: In-House
Opera is an Internet browser with a pop-up blocker, multiple-windows navigation, mouse gestures, keyboard shortcuts, e-mail client with Spam filter, and integrated search all for user security and speed. The cross-platform browser includes a multitude of other functions such as integrated built-in e-mail client, IRC-compatible chat, support for RSS newsfeeds, password manager, one-click customization and privacy protection settings.
Mouse gestures and keyboard shortcuts allow for accelerated Web navigation while the Fast Forward and Rewind buttons ease browsing. Users are able to run multiple windows as well as personalize the user interface with one-click skins. The browser also contains special elements for users with disabilities, drag-and-drop support, a notes function, user profiles, and a host of other features. Opera supports the latest in security and provides password and cookie managers.
View: << Screenshot >> Download: Opera 8 Beta 1 | Mirrors News source: In-House
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Of course you have to use it to know what it feels like. Screenshots can't show you this:
http://www.opera.com/features/
And don't forget that Opera is a lot smaller, faster and more customizable than your Firefox.
Hmm, I have my doubts about that.
Not sure if you realize what XUL is capable of. You can basically re-program the entire UI.
Yes, it's not as straightforward as Opera, but the advantage is that it's more flexible.
Also, if one by "customizable" mean feature set-customizable, Firefox is in a league of its own by now with all its extensions.
most firefox extensions suck...
is there an extension to make firefox good?
Yes, it's not as straightforward as Opera, but the advantage is that it's more flexible.
Hmm...I wonder if Firefox fans all feel the same way about PS2 and the console wars.
Yeah right, Opera offers everything out of the box and no need for stupid extensions.
Yes, especially if combined.
Look, I could write an as useful reply as you.
I disagree. Among others, the ad filtering features of Opera with filter.ini sucks since it supports wildcards so poorly.
There's no extensions to give thumbnails on Google Search, make text links clickable, and so on.
Last edited by 21023 on 23 Dec 2004 - 09:55
No no no no. Firefox could be in a league of its own... or maybe will be would be a better way to say it. Given some time. But 'is' is definitely the wrong word, since 90% of all the extensions people use for Firetruck are designed entirely to copy features that come with Opera already. So... no, Firefox is in a league of Opera's, not its own.
(I have no doubt that as it becomes more popular it will get a lot of good original extensions, though.)
Yes. You can disable it if you want.
Bloat? Opera is a lot smaller than Firefox, please leave your stupids fanboy comments for your stupids friends.
Yes. Like the real opera, it is only for smart and high class people.
Also, when claiming to be more intelligent than others, please at least attempt to use proper grammar.
Of course english isn't my native language
Bloat? The email client is hidden/deactivated until you activate it, and it's still a much smaller download than Firefox. Firefox is the slow and bloated one.
Before talking about "bloat" you should try 8-Beta. You will notice that email is deactivated until you activate it.
And Opera is still smaller and faster than Firefox. How's that for "bloat"?
Yes move all of them to the buttom of the page, i have it setup like that and i do like it.
E-mail client, you can diactivate it delete it, but you will miss a lot since it is a great email client. Wand? Hey does not FF have a password menager built in as well as IE? So what a complaine? does not make any sense!
There is NO extra bloat in opera since it is the smallest full featured browser out there, and yes you can disable features you do not like.
It is a comercial product, if you do not like it, do not use it, if you like it pay money and use it, if you like it and can't afford, use it but see the adds, which are not annoying or anything since they are text ads.
It is possible to buy this product and not to have any ads
I can't really say I agree with this from my own browsing on update.mozilla.org and extensionsmirror.nl.
Maybe you haven't visited the sites recently, take a look:
https://update-beta.mozilla.org/extensions/showlist.php?application=firefox&version=1.0&os=Windows&category=All
http://www.extensionsmirror.nl/index.php?showforum=2
Firefox should be over 200 extensions already. Yes, several features found in Opera can be found as Firefox extensions, but not almost all extensions seem to be Opera features. And regardless exactly how much difference between the browser feature sets there are now, if Opera doesn't do anything here soon extensibility-wise, they'll get a hard time motivating purchasing their non-free browser or putting advertisements in it. A few employees on a single software company should logically have a hard time keeping up with a horde of extension developers. I wouldn't say their strategy of integrating all features they can think of being a very good idea either since it confuses the user with options s/he might not even ever bother using.
Last edited by 21023 on 23 Dec 2004 - 23:53
And that's the problem. Too much crap. Too much messing around with crap. I just want something that works.
Nah, that's nonsense. I don't WANT extensions. They suck. They are insecure. They waste my time.
You are trying to impose your view of the world on Opera users. It doesn't work that way. Most people don't NEED extension.
A few? Opera has close to 200 people employed, the majority being engineering people.
It just depends on what floats your boat.
* Edit: I found out why, seems that the default Zoom level was at 110%, suppose this is why they call it beta software.
Its like they knew exactly how I had mine set up.
And yes, I installed to a seperate directory from 7.6P4.
Thing about Opera is, you don't have extensions if you miss a feature you love.
(think ad filtering, gmail integration on mailto: links, and so on)
But yes, it's a good choice if you just don't care about extensibility and just want a package solution, not caring about if it's commercial or not.
Anyway, good job about the memory usage, that's actually something that I find to be a problem sometimes with Firefox.
Last edited by 21023 on 23 Dec 2004 - 00:40
mail-to: for gmail? Hehe, gmail supports pop and smtp, and when you send through smtp the letter does go to your sent folder. And guess what , opera does have a mail client unlike FF, and it can handle those links fast and easily.
Been there done that. It doesn't even support regular expressions for efficient wildcard matching.
And you can't just right click on the object(s) you wish to filter, but need to fix it up in Notepad...
I don't need yet another mail client. That's why I chose Firefox.
Or are you saying I should start using another mail client just to be able to use a browser efficiently?
Last edited by 21023 on 23 Dec 2004 - 09:53
You can disable Mail in Opera. That's right, you don't have to use it eventhough it comes with it.
I know, I've used Opera quite a bit before, but read up above (each post in order) to see why I mentioned it. I don't want to use Opera's Mail because I already have a client for it. HOWEVER, the dude above my posts said it was necessary to get convenient integrated mailing in Opera, while in Firefox I can just use Gmail on mailto: links so I can stay with a single mail client of my choice besides that one. Do you see what the problem is? I fully understand you can disable Mail in Opera, but it being integrated is not the issue here.
So I NEVER said that in order to use opera efficiently it is necessary to use it's mail client. I just said it is an option that is missing from FF.
(think ad filtering, gmail integration on mailto: links, and so on)
You are wrong.
Ad blocking: http://www.proxomitron.info/ -OR- the built in CSS ad killer
Gmail integration: http://www.scss.com.au/family/andrew/o7/gmail/
I WANT commercial software. There's a reason why Mac is superior and Linux sucks.
No, you use Firefox because of something else. The email client can easily be disabled. It is by default in Opera 8, actually.
nookadum
The mail client is the best there is. There's a reason why Thunderbird is copying Opera you know.
And there's no point in removing it. When it's not in use it doesn't use any resources either.
Edit: does anyone know how to remove the Beta tag?
Last edited by 35439 on 23 Dec 2004 - 00:34
There is a section called [user prefs] under it add this Title=Your Custom Title Here
i can see why this news come in a rush before proper editing,
i view it as the Xmas present from Opera.
so, who cares about the numbers let them make some $$ before chirstmas and new year :-)
Uh, Gmail is supported in Opera 8!
Last edited by 13 on 24 Dec 2004 - 00:43
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You idiot. Everytime Opera is mentioned why does someone have to write about FF