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CreatemotionsTM seeks beta testers for QA cycle

RobertoDellaPasqua   on 07 January 2005 - 11:49 · 24 comments & 896 views

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Createmotions™ is a high quality family of instant messaging software. Based on innovative ideas and sporting an intuitive GUI, it is suited for both home and business applications. Createmotions™ is inviting companies, IT groups, academic researchers, senior coders, low level TCP/IP hackers and pretty much anyone who is interested to be a part of the beta test.

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Features:

A better messaging service for business purposes. It could potentially reduce the company’s TCO, RTO, RPO and contains vast improvements to existing protection and intellectual property management with productivity enhancements.

Graphically and conceptually superior visual design, driven by a brand new semantics oriented GUI engine.

Based on open standards IETF XMPP and SIP for compatibility with other software products and peripherals.

Patent pending client-server architecture, 20x more scalable than before, which will enable your existing IT infrastructure to manage the new messaging service without purchasing any new hardware or software.

Smart universal client gateway for messaging interoperability with the main networks (AIM®, ICQ®, MSN®, YAHOO!®).

Createmotions™ DreamRTL enables your PC to embed large software objects with a fraction of the resources needed by other products.

The author Roberto Della Pasqua says: “Createmotions is the result of four years of full time development and academic research by a team comprised of international talent, with the ultimate goal of bringing evolutionary messaging software methods to the business market, the home use and the third sector”.

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(1 reply) #1 oxtie on 07 Jan 2005 - 13:08
didn't we have enough of IM software around lately? those BhosRikas! can't simply develop something different!
#1.1 tapo on 08 Jan 2005 - 01:14
I've been on the Jdev (jabber developer) mailing list, and I've been seeing emails from the Createemotions developer.

His IM program is a Jabber client (Also known as XMPP, Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol), compatible with any other Jabber client, so it will not be another closed system that all your friends have to use, just another choice if you use the Jabber protocol for IM.

Jabber is very cool by the way, and easily beats AIM, MSN, Yahoo, or ICQ.
(1 reply) #2 FaX on 07 Jan 2005 - 13:37
MSn the best
#2.1 lare2 on 11 Jan 2005 - 07:48
READ, they said is for business purposes
(6 replies) #3 GAM on 07 Jan 2005 - 13:44
I don't ever think I've seen more BS in a software news posting before, and you know the BS level reaches infinity when you even manage to quote yourself.
#3.1 SpinningCPU on 07 Jan 2005 - 15:15
true that
#3.2 Tom Servo on 07 Jan 2005 - 15:48
If THAT is the peak of concentrated BS you've seen, then you must be a true Internet noob!
#3.3 GAM on 07 Jan 2005 - 21:26
I said it was the most I've seen in "a software news posting", not in general.

And I am certainly not a Internet noob, I am a senior software engineer and write device drivers for Solaris, Linux, HP-UX, and Windows. I've also written part of the code in sendmail, the leading Internet mail transfer agent. I've written code in a commercial anti-virus product, and I know a double-digit number of programming languages.

So except that you demonstrated that you can't read and that you jump to conclusions, you did not really say anything...that is what I call a noob!
#3.4 tapo on 08 Jan 2005 - 01:35
CreateEmotions is a combination of XMPP client and server, XMPP is an open, XML-based system for IM, developed by the folks at Jabber.org.

Now, XMPP is an awesome protocol, but the problem is that it dosn't scale well. You're sending and recieving XML, not binary like you would with OSCAR or MSNP. That's a hell of a lot of XML to parse, and in most cases, the XML in a message vastly outnumbers the payload. Jabberd, the most popular XMPP server, usually gets by with about a max of 10,000 users at once.

This guy claims his can host a million concurrent users, which is ****ing incredible. If he lives up to his claim or not is as much of a mystery to me as it is to you.

Considering I've been not only seeing his posts on my mailing list, but here makes me think he's acutally going to try for a 1 million user stress test, so I have a little faith.
#3.5 Tom Servo on 08 Jan 2005 - 18:32
Did he also release the specs of the system, on which his hyper-XMPP server will run on? As in, single box, cluster, a Cray rack? Must be at least a clustered setup, because XMPP works over a TCP connection, and you know the deal with port numbers, 16bit and all that, unless he's going to multihome the machine across 17 IP addresses. But I want to see the TCP/IP stack, that does 1 million concurrent connections. Does. Not. Exist.

And even if his server component is major fux, as long the client is nice, the better. I've yet to see a decent Jabber client.
#3.6 RobertoDellaPasqua on 09 Jan 2005 - 13:56
Hi

Obviously we can't change the tcp/ip stack, but our architecture is able to manage realtime 16bit sockets 64K at time on a properly tuned kernel on a P2 400. The last bench was done in a system quadopteron 4GB ram with 600K sockets in a 32bit kernel, but before tell more we need to get a certification (need months and expenses), then we'll explain how-to. The magic is on a technical method (patented) that permit to use all these concurrent sockets using lowest possible cpu/ram resources. Further the same method permit to our internal test with a RFC2616 gateway (http1) and isapi PHP module to generate 500% more hits for second than a linux/apache into the same machine (test done at end 2002).

Thank you for the trust.

I'll not talk anymore about server details before the publication date (Q3-Q4 2005).

I wish you a nice day.

Best regards,

Roberto Della Pasqua
(1 reply) #4 smart001 on 07 Jan 2005 - 17:34
Trillion is the best!
#4.1 tapo on 08 Jan 2005 - 01:21
Createemotions is a XMPP client, as XMPP is an open protocol, it allows you to use your account with any other XMPP client, message someone else on any other server, and any other clent. It's not a network, it's a decentralized system built around a protocol. It's absolutely awesome.

The way it can sign on to legacy IM services is by "transports". Transports are small programs running on a XMPP server (it does not need to be the one your account is on) that are basically mini AIM/MSN/Yahoo/ICQ clients. They log onto your account, take your jabber messages and convert them to AIM/MSN/Yahoo/ICQ messages, and vice versa.

Transports are a lot less complex then Trillian is, and only support basic messaging. The key here is the XMPP protocol itself, and once it's widely used, that will be the end of the bloated, closed IM services we have today.
#5 RobertoDellaPasqua on 07 Jan 2005 - 18:09
I agree
(1 reply) #6 DeMo_BR on 07 Jan 2005 - 21:10
Hahahaha... they say this thing is the best IM around but their webpage won't even provide a form for beta signup, you have to do it by mail!!!

From their webpage:
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Please send an email through the below button to enter the Createmotions™ beta workgroup. You will be notified in the case of positive selection. Thank you.


They don't even ask you to write your name, country, system specs, experience with IM messaging bla bla bla.

EDIT: Check their page, they added a signup form!!!

Last edited by 36120 on 08 Jan 2005 - 13:18
#6.1 tapo on 08 Jan 2005 - 01:23
If you knew how XMPP worked, you'd agree. It's the best IM service around.

As for his CreateEmotions client, I'm going to need to give it a try.
#7 Interpol™ on 07 Jan 2005 - 21:21
We have enough IM programs.
#8 RobertoDellaPasqua on 08 Jan 2005 - 01:57
Hi,

I like tell you that I don't want make illusions, or make hype around a product not yet released. Please wait the release, then take your thoughts.

I sure you that our proprietary server exahust the TCP/IP of winsock2 15-16bit -> 32K/64K sockets and realtime manage jabber xmpp with 3 jep extensions. The NT engine is near completed. The Linux engine is still under experiment, and we will try to certify the engine with university to manage realtime 1million sockets in a single server.

The first piece (level 1 - Q2 2005) of createmotions is a smart client, it manage the four protocols plus jabber (as gaim, trillian and kopete). But it has some exciting features.

I hope to not disappoint you.

After, the level 2 (Q3-4 2005) is the server business area. And the level 3 is a secret really (the very bet of cemotions).

Have a nice day.

Btw. please don't make createmotions "in war" with others messengers, I like a lot both trillian and gaim.

Roberto
#9 McG on 08 Jan 2005 - 13:00
i dont know if i'll adopt this
#10 Rudy on 08 Jan 2005 - 18:51
any screenshots ??
(1 reply) #11 RobertoDellaPasqua on 09 Jan 2005 - 14:18
Hi,

btw. do you like the logo of createmotions?

Thanks

R.
#11.1 D-j-M on 10 Jan 2005 - 21:43
Everything apart from the colours yeh.
#12 The Cub on 10 Jan 2005 - 02:46
Logo looks cool, Can't wait to see what you come up with.
#13 RobertoDellaPasqua on 10 Jan 2005 - 12:34
Thank you!

R.

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