Opera 8 Beta 3 Released
Posted by Bts on 17 March 2005 - 10:13 · 43 comments & 14832 views
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#1 Posted by bush on 17 Mar 2005 - 10:23
- does it still lack reasonable standard support?
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#1.1 Posted by HawkMan on 17 Mar 2005 - 10:26
- Interesting comment on the most standard supporting browser.
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#1.2 Posted by worbd on 17 Mar 2005 - 14:45
- Opera now supports SVG natively, which Mozilla doesn't
Talk about "lack of reasonable standard support". I don't think Mozilla supports DOM3 Load and Save either, but it insists on using its own non-standard XMLHttpRequest. -
#1.3 Posted by finalcut on 17 Mar 2005 - 18:43
- who cares what support what and standard.
As long as the browser show websites correctly
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#1.4 Posted by Soleen on 18 Mar 2005 - 03:05
- Opera supports standards better than any other browser on the earth!
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#1.5 Posted by AfroTrance on 18 Mar 2005 - 13:09
QUOTE who cares what support what and standard.
Maybe the people who make websites?
If all browsers showed webpages exactly to the standards then coding a webpage would be a lot easier.
QUOTE As long as the browser show websites correctly
There would be no correct way to display a poorly coded page.
How can a browser magically work out what a poor coder is trying to code in their website?-
#1.6 Posted by Fanon on 18 Mar 2005 - 14:58
QUOTE Opera supports standards better than any other browser on the earth!
So they finally fixed their crappy event model, or are they still sporting it? What about the DOM? Do they still lack in that area? What about JavaScript? Are they still worse than IE in that dept? There's more to standards than CSS and HTML.-
#1.7 Posted by worbd on 18 Mar 2005 - 16:03
QUOTE So they finally fixed their crappy event model, or are they still sporting it? What about the DOM? Do they still lack in that area? What about JavaScript? Are they still worse than IE in that dept? There's more to standards than CSS and HTML.
Typical anti-Opera FUD from a Firefox fanboy. Read this:
http://my.opera.com/haavard/journal/36
Now, go back to the learning table, learn proper JS/DOM, and it will work fine!
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#2 Posted by maulia on 17 Mar 2005 - 12:52
- Don't really understand what's new, but woohoo! Updating now
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#3 Posted by caerma on 17 Mar 2005 - 13:00
- nice, thanks.
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#4 Posted by smashguy on 17 Mar 2005 - 14:13
- Cool
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#5 Posted by Dale on 17 Mar 2005 - 15:11
- wow.. id probably use it if it didn't have adds.
best version yet. i like the new preferences panel.
till now i'll stick with firefox (mainly because it doesn't have adds. in no way am i trying to put down opea) -
#5.2 Posted by Gulfisland on 19 Mar 2005 - 20:27
- u,, yeah me too, google it, its like 1 min out of your life???
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#6 Posted by fobban on 17 Mar 2005 - 16:02
- I'll stick to IE and Firefox as long as Opera has its sucky java script support + is unable to render most of the msdn pages properly.
Though i have to say that i love Opera's tab support (which is a lot better than firefox's).
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#7 Posted by soldier1st on 17 Mar 2005 - 16:06
- kirk26,you don't have ads either cuzz you paid for it or used something to get past the ads,anyways i will try this but i will stick to firefox.
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#8 Posted by STi Sev on 17 Mar 2005 - 17:06
- The best browser in the world gets updated! woohoo!
The options menu has been redone.
Opera is a hundred times better browser than Firefox. (sits back and watches the FF fan boys piss themselveS)
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#9 Posted by alerosenfeld on 17 Mar 2005 - 17:33
- Didnt Mozilla had SVG support for a while? I remember some Firefox builds with a SVG patch before the 1.0 trend, but now i dont see them anymore, why did they take it away?
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#10 Posted by AthleticTrainer1981 on 17 Mar 2005 - 18:58
- While Opera is a great browser, to me on par with Fx, until it has an adblock feature then it will still take a back seat to Fx.
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#10.2 Posted by bathisland on 18 Mar 2005 - 03:56
- What are you talking about? Opera has had the Ad-Block feature for quite some time now.....
By far the best browser
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#11 Posted by Rickie on 17 Mar 2005 - 19:48
- Nice update
Let's try and keep firefox out of this post, shall we?
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#12 Posted by irate on 17 Mar 2005 - 19:55
- I'm a big fan of Opera. I see a few posts with people who use FF who say that Opera doesn't "feel" right, and I completely see where they're coming from. FF doesn't "feel" right for me either. Either are excellent choices compared to the alternative.
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#13 Posted by Darken on 17 Mar 2005 - 20:20
- thanx for the update!
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#14 Posted by soldier1st on 17 Mar 2005 - 20:56
- opera has ads while ff does not,if opera had no ads like ff then maybe opera would be used more
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#15 Posted by Litespeed on 17 Mar 2005 - 21:58
- I don't mind the ads if it means getting a quality, supported product. Do you think Mozilla would have dropped the Moz Suite so readily if they had thousands of paid users? No, of course not. But as it stands, they have no accountability to their end users and can do what they like.
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#16 Posted by cork1958 on 18 Mar 2005 - 02:31
- Beta 3!? Opera 8 final was supposed to be released before the end of February!! What happened? I'm still waiting!! I do have/use Opera 8 b7401, but am not loading half a dozen other beta version on any of my systems. Cripe, even this version of Opera 8 is stable as heck and everything else. Bring on the final already!
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#16.1 Posted by Soleen on 18 Mar 2005 - 03:06
- Opera Company never ever tell to public the expected release dates, so do not lie :-)
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#16.2 Posted by Bts on 18 Mar 2005 - 07:27
- Believe me you want to upgrade from Opera 8 Beta 1 to the latest Beta 3 right away. There are too many improvements to list. Just uninstall the previous beta and install the new one on top.
but no....-
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#17 Posted by EviLMunkey on 18 Mar 2005 - 03:38
- I gotta say, I enjoy Opera, it's nice and fast, but what's with the CRAZY CPU usage when I load up www.rr.com/flash? Is there something wrong with flash and Opera?
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#17.1 Posted by EviLMunkey on 18 Mar 2005 - 03:55
- Hmm, nevermind, I think it's just the site.
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#18 Posted by EviLMunkey on 18 Mar 2005 - 04:42
- Alright, I have another little problem. Do favorites have to be opened in new tabs? I'd like links to, but not bookmarks. Thanks!
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#18.1 Posted by nant on 18 Mar 2005 - 07:15
- For me, clicking on a bookmark opens in the active page...
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#19 Posted by JakeM741 on 18 Mar 2005 - 05:34
- lookin good opera
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#20 Posted by Bts on 18 Mar 2005 - 07:16
- There's a nice new feature not mentioned in the changelog. It's called User Scripts and allows a script to run on every webpage allowing many neat things in the future.
More info:
http://my.opera.com/Rijk/journal/54
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#20.1 Posted by carpediem on 18 Mar 2005 - 16:57
- That's a really nice feature. The cool thing is that these scripts are triggered before any event or script on the page, so it's basicly a proxy where you can modify the code to whatever you want. You could for instance make sure all pages are opened in the same tab here on neowin if you want, by removing the target="_blank" on every link... Just as an example
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#21 Posted by Gulfisland on 19 Mar 2005 - 20:34
- wow this loads even faster then the last one!!! WOW
SVG is an XML-based language for Web graphics developed by the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C). It enables Web developers to create the next generation of interactive and personalized Web applications in high-quality vector graphics instead of bitmaps, which are most often used on Web sites today. SVG can therefore be scaled to fit any screen - from small mobile devices to high-resolution printers. As opposed to proprietary vector-based Web technologies, SVG is an open, text-based standard, and can be reached and indexed by search engines. By combining SVG with existing Web standards like HTML, CSS, JavaScript and DOM, Opera is prepared to support the next generation of Web sites.
"We believe SVG will enter mainstream Web design in the future and we are very pleased to add native support in the Opera browser", says Hakon Wium Lie, CTO, Opera Software. "We will work with other vendors to ensure that SVG can be used interoperably on the Web."
"As the Internet is maturing we see that most new Web sites are no longer static displays of information, but rather complex online applications that use advanced Web technologies to enable improved interactivity, speed, and services," says Jon S. von Tetzchner, CEO, Opera Software. "It is only natural that Web browsers support Web technologies natively, rather than by having to keep adding plug-ins. By integrating SVG support, Opera continues its tradition of bringing innovation to the Web and setting the de-facto standard for Web browsers."
Opera's desktop browser has undergone dramatic improvements in performance and security, with new features such as anti-phishing technology. Native SVG 1.1 Tiny support has been integrated in Opera's Core code for the next desktop release, and will be available also on other devices shortly. The company is preparing for the launch of the final version of its next desktop browser, and the Beta 3 version is available as a free download from www.opera.com.
Learn more about SVG at www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/About.html