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#1 Posted by vassie on 18 Apr 2005 - 10:22

Mirror

http://195.153.177.76/uploads/ow32enen800.exe

Ben

#2 Posted by alex. on 18 Apr 2005 - 10:35

Excellent, this will probably just be bugfixes, no new features added.

Never know though, they might have snuck something in

*wonders when the trolls will appear*

(1 reply) #3 Posted by nvizible on 18 Apr 2005 - 10:49

YEEEHaaa... I'm using it now. As a matter of interest, where is this new "secret feature" which opera 8 was supposed to include. They said it'd have something, but I can't really notice anything immediately!

#3.1 Posted by Ghostdraconi on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:11

It's a secret

#4 Posted by bush on 18 Apr 2005 - 10:58

have to try out.
can opera import settings from firefox?

#5 Posted by Chode on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:00

d'loading, at last it is out

#6 Posted by [X]-bYtE on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:15

YES! Finally it's here... *downloads*

#7 Posted by virtorio on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:18

I could be wrong but this build seems a lot faster when using the zoom feature than what it does in the previous beta releases, in which case, I am very happy.

#8 Posted by netizen on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:22

Can't wait to see what it's like, if the speed is that much faster than Firefox then I might just switch!?

(3 replies) #9 Posted by wutang01 on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:32

Is Opera faster than FireFox? It still has tabs right?

#9.1 Posted by Arioch on 18 Apr 2005 - 12:18

they invented tabbed browsing, i think

#9.2 Posted by Lawrens on 18 Apr 2005 - 12:45

You just have to try it, Firefox and Opera feels different in the software itself. About speed, some likes firefox better, some likes opera, I never really compared the 2 side by side.

#9.3 Posted by Galley on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:18

NetCaptor was the first tabbed browser. Of course, Opera does it better.

#10 Posted by Packet1009 on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:34

finally - been waiting for 8 to go final for a while now

(1 reply) #11 Posted by koocha on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:34

It still installs it in "Opera 8 beta" folder for me

#11.1 Posted by DomFel on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:13

You've got to remove the Beta first, and then reinstall the final. Don't forget to backup the bookmarks! ;-)

(1 reply) #12 Posted by kool4 on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:35

has this release been mentioned on opera.com ?

#12.1 Posted by [X]-bYtE on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:42

No. Opera 8 won't be officially announced until tomorrow. So no changelog until then.

#13 Posted by Rickie on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:46

Yes yes yes yes yes yes

(2 replies) #14 Posted by bidz on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:47

Argh.. Opera Software is a Norwegian company. The Opera browser is made in Norway. Why the heck don't they have a Norwegian language based build of 8.0 ??? Only English, Polish, Dutch and German!!!!!

#14.1 Posted by biorK on 18 Apr 2005 - 12:35

It'll come in the near future, I'm sure.

#14.2 Posted by GAM on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:46

Who cares? Norwegians are almost extinct anyway....

There's probably only me and about another four and a half million who speak and read Norwegian, and most of us understand English so why bother... ;-)

#15 Posted by dan1el^ on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:48

Mirrors:

ftp://ftp.uit.no/pub/www/opera/win/800/
ftp://ftp.heanet.ie/pub/opera/win/800/
ftp://ftp.hu-berlin.de/pub/www/opera/win/800/
ftp://ftp.130th.net/pub/mirror/opera/win/800/

#16 Posted by Hidea on 18 Apr 2005 - 11:49

VERY nice

#17 Posted by __kret on 18 Apr 2005 - 12:05

thanks people for mirrors
this looks great.. thank you my univ for licenses for opera
guess I'll change default browser to it

#18 Posted by smashguy on 18 Apr 2005 - 12:42

Excellent work!

#19 Posted by Fat Tony on 18 Apr 2005 - 13:11

WOW a new broswer to play with... I realy lik ewhat they have done with Version 8 mind improved a lot of features... Will upgrade later on...

(3 replies) #20 Posted by Marduk on 18 Apr 2005 - 13:57

Where does Opera hide its user pref like the gui customizations?

#20.1 Posted by shen on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:14

a lot of the hardcore gui customizing has to be done by going into the opera directory and editing .ini's by hand. other things are done just by right-clicking on a part of the browser and selecting "customize..."

i've been waiting so long for this... so, so long...

#20.2 Posted by Marduk on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:16

Ah, I'm wondering which files all my customizations are stored from 8beta so I can easily move into final.

#20.3 Posted by nant on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:21

The various .ini files which store your changes (menu, toolbars, buttons, etc) are stored in the profile folder inside your Opera directory.

(6 replies) #21 Posted by kizzaaa on 18 Apr 2005 - 14:42

Brilliant. The best browser finally goes out of beta.

#21.1 Posted by stezo2k on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:01

i'd rather have a free browser to be honest....

#21.2 Posted by nant on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:18

But it is free.
Nothing prevents you from fully using any of the features in Opera nor is it time limited.

Have you actually used Opera with text-ads for more than a minute? Does that honesty bothers you so much that you rather use a lesser product so long you will not see such a small strip of text-ads? If so, then too bad because IMHO the loss is all yours.

#21.3 Posted by nw_raptor on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:37

^^ the fact that the 'real deal' is shareware, doesn't mean Opera is not a good piece of software. I am a Firefox user, because I like open source software, but I admit that Opera constantly innovates in the browser-market, and that's something that deserves congratulations.

#21.4 Posted by Jugalator on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:37

QUOTE

If so, then too bad because IMHO the loss is all yours.

Yeah. But the loss of text ads doesn't bother me *that* much.
If you really miss them so much, there's a Firefox extension to add them.

Strangely enough, few wish to do.

#21.5 Posted by nant on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:42

That's not the point... The point was that the ads are not such a horrible thing that should stop you from trying the browser and give it a real evaluation.

#21.6 Posted by dolimite35 on 19 Apr 2005 - 02:43

the text ads are nothing, opera with slim text ads give me about the same open space for web pages as firefox...i alwasy liked opera and the free version is very good...

So in a way Opera if free like firefox...you can pay to upgrade opera to get no text ads, and you can pay firefox via donations...and if it firefox is so great why not help them out by donating a lil $ to help support it since some of you swear by it and get drama queen-ish with fists in the air...Either way both are free and both are good

Its only a browser not religion

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(6 replies) #22 Posted by Danrarbc641 on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:17

QUOTE

undoubtedly, the worlds fastest and the most standards compliant web browser suite

I have my doubts. I've had to work around problems in Opera before, nowhere near as bad as IE though

Then again that was 7.x, maybe they're fixed in 8.

#22.1 Posted by worbd on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:56

According to this, it's the bestest best thingamabob since sliced meatloaf when it comes to standards:

http://nanobox.chipx86.com/browser_support.php

#22.2 Posted by timdorr on 19 Apr 2005 - 06:39

There's a big difference between support and proper rendering. Opera still has a LOT of issues with rendering in my experience. I don't count it when designing at all. Too much of a hassle to deal with it. It feels like supporting IE 5.5 (which I don't do either).

#22.3 Posted by worbd on 19 Apr 2005 - 08:14

http://my.opera.com/haavard/journal/36

#22.4 Posted by nvizible on 19 Apr 2005 - 11:04

well timdorr, my estimation of you has just dropped by a few thousand feet! any coder worth his salt knows that opera is the one browser one must support, especially as it's the browser of choice at most academic institutions. in addition, if you say your coding does not support opera, it is most definately not standards compliant, because anything which is standards complaint works perfectly with opera. not to mention that opera is not like i.e. 5.5 in the least.

that said, i must say that i've not come across any of your coding that doesn't work in opera so, that just seems to prove how supieror opera is! it takes coding which coders specifically create to not work in opera (as you said you do), and makes it work just perfectly, albeit a lot faster than any other browser. i dare you to try opera properly! its far more "native" feeling, has many more useful features (not least for web designers and coders, nontroppo's webdesign toolbar pops to mind immediately), and does it all a lot faster!

#22.5 Posted by Miran on 19 Apr 2005 - 21:11

Actually my website passes strict html4 and css2 testing but opera doesn't render it properly..

#22.6 Posted by Danrarbc641 on 20 Apr 2005 - 00:14

QUOTE

any coder worth his salt knows that opera is the one browser one must support, especially as it's the browser of choice at most academic institutions.

I have never heard that before.

#23 Posted by caerma on 18 Apr 2005 - 15:48

Nice...

#24 Posted by maudit on 18 Apr 2005 - 16:18

Alright, ...Installing on C: on J:/(usb)

(1 reply) #25 Posted by ArKeYa on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:22

Finally!
Anybody know the secret feature already?

#25.1 Posted by serafins on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:41

?

#26 Posted by Patrick_ on 18 Apr 2005 - 17:36

Sweet, Linux version is out too! I prefer Mozilla, but Opera I like to test out sometimes.

(1 reply) #27 Posted by zixyon on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:18

i tryed it .. well i must admit its damn fast but i dunno i just dont feel confortable with it ... i think ill stick to firefox .. btw i miss IE

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#27.1 Posted by Blazin on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:48

what is EI? hehe... nahh nevermind

Its nice have Opera out!

#28 Posted by rusonjitsu on 18 Apr 2005 - 19:36

so good, ibought it!

RJ

(3 replies) #29 Posted by jcgamer60 on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:23

so good i cracked it!

JC

#29.1 Posted by fro0ty on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:38

nice one ma bruther! ... me too

#29.2 Posted by worbd on 19 Apr 2005 - 08:16

Way to go. Keep bragging about being a warez kiddie.

#29.3 Posted by mr_da3m0n on 20 Apr 2005 - 16:27

So good I got my free license from that german magazine!

(I have not tried it yet. Oh well.)

#30 Posted by DomFel on 18 Apr 2005 - 20:25

I was a Firefox fan 'till I tried out Opera 8 beta 3. I'm just amazed by the speed, the standards support, the stability, the features of this freakin awesome browser!
Thanks Opera!

Bloody Norwegians, they're always wayyyy ahead of Americans (lucky us!)! Great job!

#31 Posted by Heathen on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:00

Yeah... they got me back too. Great browser.... kicks Firefox for speed and stability.

Good work Norwegian fellas.

#32 Posted by Jstphish on 18 Apr 2005 - 21:52

I have to admit, it's pretty darn fast on my machine. Heck, even the install was fast, it was the fastest install I've ever seen!

(4 replies) #33 Posted by Chrysalis on 18 Apr 2005 - 22:47

Installed but still says Opera beta in toolbar build # is 7561

#33.1 Posted by worbd on 19 Apr 2005 - 08:17

Because you installed over a beta version *WHICH IS NOT RECOMMENDED*.

#33.2 Posted by Chrysalis on 19 Apr 2005 - 13:29

Hmmm, so reccomended way is to new dir and re customise the entire app from scratch again?

Can do this but first I wonder if easy way to remove the beta message without all that hassle.

#33.3 Posted by Litespeed on 20 Apr 2005 - 02:19

Just unsinstall and reinstall. Your profile remains, but Opera will be refreshed to the new version.

#33.4 Posted by Chrysalis on 20 Apr 2005 - 13:15

Fixed

for benefit of others I edited operadefs.ini title=opera beta to title=opera

Considering this was a file installed by the new installer this was nothing to do with me putting in same dir I wonder if the leaked file wasnt actually final when first leaked.

#34 Posted by CrisCr0ss on 18 Apr 2005 - 23:13

Well i just tried it from FireFox, and the speed maybe fast but that maybe due to the Extentions in FireFox its probably as fast as IE. However the lack of exnteions and the hassle to switch between tabs and import bookmarks from firefox is rather innoying..

#35 Posted by fragmore on 18 Apr 2005 - 23:50

Woried about yhe ads? Try a good ad blocker.

(2 replies) #36 Posted by EastExpert on 19 Apr 2005 - 00:15

http://www.bmw.com to see how does it work...
First, it says "Incompatible browser". But then, you can ignore & continue on your own risk.
Going to let's say 7 series sedans, switching between colours, does it in grades vs. smooth in IE.

Went to Ford.co.uk afterwards. Compared to IE. Static links vs. dynamic full-fledged menu...

Of course anyone can say "those car makers sites suck"!
But if I have a BMW I wouldn't go to another site, I want exactly the one I own... ;-)

Some great features as well - but looks like speed is now worse than in version 7. May be it's just me...

I'm back to IE. Will leave Opera though and will give it a try some more times on different sites.

#36.1 Posted by DomFel on 19 Apr 2005 - 01:53

On bmw.com after you accept to back to the website and continue anyway, it loads just fine for me. Went to bmw.co.uk and bmw.it without problems.

#36.2 Posted by EastExpert on 19 Apr 2005 - 10:32

Yes, you can click through; the International version of the site allows you to preview cars "painted" into different colours. The switching between colours appears to be significantly faster in IE - I have no idea why... in Opera you can see the grades changing abruptly, in IE it's just a smooth transition.

My point was actually not just to complain about some sites, but to emphasize that a share of real-life sites that have "some" problems when displayed in Opera appears to be quite visible and that's a shame, 'coz I like Opera per se...

(2 replies) #37 Posted by :No-Frost: on 19 Apr 2005 - 01:21

where can I get it on latin american language???

#37.1 Posted by Soleen on 19 Apr 2005 - 03:41

Sorry to tell you, it does not exist.

#37.2 Posted by nvizible on 19 Apr 2005 - 11:43

it will soon... in fact, i'm sure that there are some language files for spanish/portuguese for the o8 betas. click on the "community" link on the opera site (on the top somewhere) and then on "customise" on the community portal. you should find language setups somewhere there!

#38 Posted by cork1958 on 19 Apr 2005 - 01:57

About freakin' time!!

(2 replies) #39 Posted by rm20010 on 19 Apr 2005 - 02:17

Great release.

Just one problem: version 8 doesn't display MSN.ca correctly. On the other hand, version 7 is fine.

When will Microsoft quit their practices of sending corrupt stylesheets (or whatever) to Opera browsers

#39.1 Posted by EastExpert on 19 Apr 2005 - 10:39

Honestly, I think Microsoft doesn't care a tupence about browsers and therefore there's nothing to "quit" for them...

But when evaluating real-life performance of browsers, arguments like "corrupt stylesheets" (or whatever) don't hold water, because the main purpose of a browser is... surprise, to show web sites the user wants to see, closest to what the author wanted them to be (and not, ironically, "to conform to standards" or "to support CSS2/3/XUL/whatever".

So the best browser is, in a nutshell, the one that shows maximum number of sites in a manner closest to what they were meant to be by their author. Failing to do that, browser may still be neat and nice and "standard-compliant", but it wouldn't be the best suitable one for the real-world use.

#39.2 Posted by rm20010 on 19 Apr 2005 - 21:31

Well that's what you get when your ISP merges services with Microsoft

It's a good thing you're able to report site problems in Opera.

#40 Posted by Bts on 19 Apr 2005 - 02:55

Lets not forget to mention the ultimate Opera resource.

#41 Posted by McLuke on 19 Apr 2005 - 04:53

that's cool!

just can't wait...

(2 replies) #42 Posted by ThaCrip on 19 Apr 2005 - 09:46

ill stick with FIREFOX myself... cause i like the overall interface better on firefox... besides that there both pretty close.

once things for sure Opera is definately FAST.

#42.1 Posted by nvizible on 19 Apr 2005 - 11:47

what's so great about firefox's interface? it feels clumsy to me! i mean, one has to either use a kb shortcut or use the menubar just to show the sidebar? not to mention that when you do see the sidebar, there's almost nothing useful you can do with it. oh, and the fact that the tabs are about 1/3 the width of one's screen. i can fit five tabs at least onto opera's tabbar before feeling cramped. oh ye, and the fact that it feels like someone has tried to emulate I.E., which makes it feel very "non-native" and gives it an interface which is slow as ****.

soz for the rant, but now i've got it out!

#42.2 Posted by Litespeed on 19 Apr 2005 - 12:19

They're both slow on my P3-600. But as far as UI responsiveness, Opera wins hands down. Only probs I have with Opera is that it crashes on some sections of my bank's web site - well Beta 3 did..... haven't tried the release version yet.

(1 reply) #43 Posted by Rapier on 19 Apr 2005 - 12:57

This is a major release
dont it deserve to be on the frontpage ?

#43.1 Posted by nant on 19 Apr 2005 - 16:11

Well, since Neowin claims to be unprofessional journalism and is pro-FireFox, no, this obviously shouldn't be on the front page...

(2 replies) #44 Posted by Aaronz0rz on 19 Apr 2005 - 15:04

i wish opera supported roboform

#44.1 Posted by alex. on 19 Apr 2005 - 18:26

Don't you mean you wish roboform supported opera?

#44.2 Posted by EastExpert on 19 Apr 2005 - 20:27

Doesn't Opera have its Wand feature?
(Though, any DECENT competitor to AI RoboForm remains yet to be seen... looks like Robo's really got lots of brains in it, coz it matches fields much better than Opera, FF plugin or MSN Toolbar 2 Form Fill feature...)

#45 Posted by kirk26 on 19 Apr 2005 - 15:11

Cool. Officially released today. 4/19

(1 reply) #46 Posted by tiwaris on 19 Apr 2005 - 16:35

Opera needs to improve their rendering engine. UI in opera is excellent.

#46.1 Posted by Soleen on 19 Apr 2005 - 16:47

Opera's redering engine is the best out there, and they keep adding new standards to it.

(3 replies) #47 Posted by funkyMonkey on 19 Apr 2005 - 17:08

why should I try? It comes with adware.

#47.1 Posted by mezz on 19 Apr 2005 - 17:34

No, it doesn't come with adware.

#47.2 Posted by eilegz on 19 Apr 2005 - 18:56

it does the free version come with banner

#47.3 Posted by rm20010 on 19 Apr 2005 - 21:29

In that case quit visiting Neowin. Those Google ads you see to the right of this page is what's in Opera.

If you still can't stop bitching about those ads this forum post should help you.

(1 reply) #48 Posted by Galley on 19 Apr 2005 - 17:41

It appears their servers are getting hammered.

http://www.opera.com/

QUOTE

Thank you for the overwhelming response to download Opera 8! Due to severe strain on our servers we have limited the content on this page to free up more bandwidth while we are working overtime to deal with all the requests.

#48.1 Posted by EastExpert on 19 Apr 2005 - 20:28

This is where seeding a Torrent would be sensible. The more people download at the same time, the healthier is the torrent...

#49 Posted by sullysnet on 19 Apr 2005 - 21:24

I feel dumb "fit to window width" was there in the BETA's I was using and I never seen it. I thought it would have been a preference in the tools menu but it's in view

#50 Posted by Erftek on 19 Apr 2005 - 21:43

Using it now. I think its great! BuhByeFox!

(2 replies) #51 Posted by serafins on 19 Apr 2005 - 22:30

"OperaMan"

It's Håvard dressed as power ranger before going on a date.