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No this is just a secuity update. If you have deer park then don't install this, it'll probably break your profile.

Deer Park is the code name for Firefox 1.1. It has nothing to do with these aviary 1.0.x builds.

I use Firefox now as my main browser. However what you just described is the major gripe I have always had with Firefox. EVERY update breaks just about everything. There is no excuse for that either.

It will also be what stops Firefox from becoming a more popular browser.

I just updated from 1.0.4 and had no problems with my existing settings and extensions:
Adblock Plus 0.5.8
BBCode 0.4.1.1
CuteMenus 0.4
Findbar Switcher 0.1
Menu Editor 1.2
Show Failed URL 0.1.4
Slim Extension List 0.1
Tab Mix Plus 0.2.3.1

Ditto. Only major versions break stuff, and you can fix it yourself with a little skill.

This is no excuse, the problem should be fixed, because it has no reason to exist. It was a half-baked idea to use such a system and it could be implemented in a much better way.

If no one wants to take the time to revamp the extensions system, then a simple dialog asking if you would like to run the extension despite the version warning would do it.

The upgrade/install process is one feature being addressed by Deerpark.

Whats there to have no excuse for? You use non supported code that interveins and changes the functionality of a program and you expect major updates to not cause issues? I'm sorry but the way extensions work currently dictates that since the extension is integrating itself with a browser, if they update the browser your extension may break. These extensions arent the same as plugins and were never said to be.

IMHO people have no excuse for their complaints since it's been made clear since day 1 that updating may break extensions. Saying that most security releases break very little. If they implement a new different way of doing this all the better, but I'd love to see people here try and do this themselves. It's not like this is the only program that does this anyway, if anyone uses things such as phpBB forum software you will have experienced the same with mods.

Uhh, what connection are you on exactly?

I can't see even a 56k user having too much trouble with that download.

What is it? A 2-3 minutes download in the background for that...?

For releases made less than once a month.

must admit it is pretty heavy (comparing with the full install version) for just a few fixes. that was his point.

Actually on a 56K modem 1 MB takes about 4 - 5 minutes to download. So this update will take them anywhere from 20 to 30 minutes to finish.

yeah and don't bother websurfing during that time. but hey, 56k users bring it upon themselves.

I agree. I find the need to do a full download and install for these minor, incremental updates to be sloppy code.

A new update system is currently being worked on which will allow users to automatically download and install small patches to update instead of downloading the entire program.

Don't forget that we are talking about version one of a program. It will continue to improve.

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yeah and don't bother websurfing during that time. but hey, 56k users bring it upon themselves.

Because every 56K user has the choice..

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yeah and don't bother web surfing during that time. but hey, 56k users bring it upon themselves.

That is so rude. I was stuck at a place for 4 years w/o any broadband possibilities and it sucked royally, but there wasn't much I could do about it apart from quiting my job and leaving the location entirely.

I'm on broadband now, but let me clue you in on a fact: most Internet users are STILL on 56k!

That being said, 4.7MB is nothing for a 56k user... maybe a 14.4 or even 28.8, but 56k you're looking at 15 mins top. Windows Update is much more of a burden then Firefox. But I agree that they need to work on some sort of "patching" mechanism instead of a full download of the browser.

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Actually on a 56K modem 1 MB takes about 4 - 5 minutes to download. So this update will take them anywhere from 20 to 30 minutes to finish.

Sorry, my bad, I must've been really stupid when calculating that.

I even owned a 56k modem about 5-6 years back and should've known it would've taken at least ~15 minutes to finish. But still, I think it's quite little because these updates aren't too common.

they could release security updates in form of an extension for example.

I was noticing the same problems updating from 1.0.1->1.0.2->1.0.3 and then onto 1.0.4 on my laptop. It was really annoying, and I was cursing the Firefox developers under my breath every time the program died. Recently, I formatted/reinstalled everything on my laptop, and with a clean install of 1.0.4 I can say I haven't had any crashes lately.

Probably still have problems with stability and upgrading to new versions like in the beta days of Firefox. Try wiping it from your system, and moving all your firefox profile information over to another folder and doing a clean install and see if you still have any problems. I don't think you should should have to do that...but if you wanna still use the browser it may be a good idea.

check it, minimize firefox with those three tabs open and then look at the mem usage, its strange..

It just pages out memory when you minimize. When you restore, it pages it back in.

Same goes with bold fonts.

You mean;

Bold Fonts are not all they are cracked up to be

Underlined fonts are better than bold fonts

Well someone has to start a fanboy war, it IS a post about Firefox....

Underlined bold italics

Italic Underlined

well, since I can't do color of size....
pfft.

Underline Italic Bold Strikethrough

I always uninstall the previous instalation. Everything is still there and working everytime i install updated version.

You are aware of the security bugs in 1.0?

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Edit : wow it certainly starts up alot faster and loads up pages faster , great work guys

lol, that's kind of funny because they didn't optimize anything since 1.0.4...
To be entirely clear: nothing at all regarding speed changed; this is a security and stability fix release.

Placebo?

I'd agree with you though about 1.1, since it has a ton of improvements to the rendering engine.

ditto

Those are just release candidates though. But they work pretty well now so it won't be long.

same for me... i don't think it has to do anything with your location.

If you're using a localized version then the update will only be available once the localization is done!

It's more than likely because your using the EN-GB version like i am.
I expect this to be out in a few days going on the EN-GB 1.04 release time.

Yea, i'm using the british version, and thats still at 1.04

it looks like the world is going to end. be afraid, be very afraid...

if they want it to compete with ie, they have to get rid of all these annoyances

The auto-update feature works like ass.

Simply download the new version of Firefox, and install it. No need to uninstall the previous version.

Just manually updated... evrything works fine, even my extensions...

You might want to try uninstalling the previous version of FF before you install a new version, just like they tell you.

Everything is nice

Last edited by 3448 on 19 Jul 2005 - 03:40

re: 39.2

Stop trolling.

How was that trolling? Your comment is trolling and I certainly don't need you telling me that my comment was:

spam, advertising, useless and off topic comments, raising post count, warez (links) & cracks and aiding this; requests or posts that discuss circumvention of protection mechanisms, racism, threatening (citing), victimization or hateful posts that incite flaming or similar, & bypassing our word filter.[I]

If you thought I was flaming, you are wrong. This is a Firefox thread, not a promo for Opera. That being said, I'll edit the post just for you.