Safari 3.0.4 Beta for Windows
Posted by Mercury_22 on 15 November 2007 - 17:17 · 35 comments & 21622 views
Experience the web, Apple style, with Safari: the fastest, easiest-to-use web browser in the world. With its simple, elegant interface, Safari gets out of your way and lets you enjoy the web, up to 2 times faster than Internet Explorer. The fastest web browser on any platform, Safari loads pages up to 2 times faster than Internet Explorer 7 and up to 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2. And it executes JavaScript up to 2.8 times faster than Internet Explorer 7 and up to 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2. What does all that mean for you? Less time loading pages and more time enjoying them.

Changelog:
  • Latest security updates
  • Improved stability
  • Improved compatibility
  • Improved JavaScript and application launch performance
  • Resize windows from any side
  • New keyboard shortcuts
  • Additional font smoothing option
  • International text input methods
  • Advanced text (contextual forms, international scripts)
  • NTLM support
  • PAC file auto-detection
  • FTP directory listings
  • Link to proxy settings from Safari (Safari respects the proxy settings in the Windows Internet control panel)
  • Cookie management
  • LiveConnect support
  • Tooltips
  • Spell checking
  • Printing page numbers, titles, margins
  • For detailed information on this update
This is BETA software!, please use caution when installing it on your system
Download: Safari 3.0.4 Beta for Windows (XP or Vista)
Link: Home Page


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(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #1 Posted by raskren on 15 Nov 2007 - 17:22
Too bad none of these statistics are correct.

Safari's window.onload event handler DOES NOT fire when the document is fully loaded.

So what does this mean to me? Frustrating web development.
Quote this comment #1.1 Posted by notClueless on 18 Nov 2007 - 06:16
Bull****. Rather than spouting baseless drivel you should try understanding what is going on. This article by a browser developer would be a pretty good start.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #2 Posted by frail on 15 Nov 2007 - 17:49
Finally, a build that doesn't crash on launch. I've been waiting for this for months. Too bad it's such an eye sore in Windows XP (at least for me).
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #3 Posted by vetneufuse on 15 Nov 2007 - 18:11
I always hate when the start an app on a new OS at a higher version... since this is the first windows version it should be version 1... but of course they want to keep it at the same level as osx..
Quote this comment #3.1 Posted by Eis on 16 Nov 2007 - 19:07
God forbid.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #4 Posted by vetneufuse on 15 Nov 2007 - 18:12
" What does all that mean for you? Less time loading pages and more time enjoying them." yeah cause that half second makes my life so much longer
Quote this comment #4.1 Posted by Eis on 16 Nov 2007 - 19:07
Um...What a really dumb comment. You're telling them to stop making it render pages faster because, apparently, when they do it, it doesn't matter?

Hey Apple, stop rendering pages faster and telling us that you're doing it because neufuse likes to complain over good things.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #5 Posted by Galley on 15 Nov 2007 - 18:19
ToolTips come in handy in forums.
(3 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #6 Posted by SHADOW-XIII on 15 Nov 2007 - 18:21
That's some lies ... telling us that Safari is the fastest browser just by comparing it only to IE and FF ? LIES !
They didn't even compare to Opera which holds "fastest browser" award for a long time.
Quote this comment #6.1 Posted by b.tarek.aziz on 15 Nov 2007 - 21:41
Quote - (SHADOW-XIII said @ #6)
That's some lies ... telling us that Safari is the fastest browser just by comparing it only to IE and FF ? LIES !
They didn't even compare to Opera which holds "fastest browser" award for a long time.


Completely right Mr.......Opera is a lot superior than this, euhhh, browser (If we can say that it's a REAL browser)....A msg to the Apple Comp. : "plz Leave your "browser" with you...!!!"....nuff said!!!
Quote this comment #6.2 Posted by virtorio on 15 Nov 2007 - 21:58
To Apples credit, on my systerm anyway (Santa Rosa 2.2ghz, 2GB RAM, Vista), Safari starts and renders pages faster than Firefox and IE, starts faster than Opera and renders pages virtually the same speed as Opera, if not faster.

And why don't you consider Safari a real browser?

Allows me to browse the internet... check
Allows me to download files... check
Access to secure site... check
History, bookmark, cookie management... check
Tabbed browser interface... check
Excellent standards support... check
Supports internet plug-ins... check
Allows me to fill my toolbar with useless bulls**t... negative (aww damm)

Holy s**t, we've got a web browser here.
Quote this comment #6.3 Posted by internetworld7 on 16 Nov 2007 - 01:38
Quote - (virtorio said @ #6.2)
To Apples credit, on my systerm anyway (Santa Rosa 2.2ghz, 2GB RAM, Vista), Safari starts and renders pages faster than Firefox and IE, starts faster than Opera and renders pages virtually the same speed as Opera, if not faster.

And why don't you consider Safari a real browser?

Allows me to browse the internet... check
Allows me to download files... check
Access to secure site... check
History, bookmark, cookie management... check
Tabbed browser interface... check
Excellent standards support... check
Supports internet plug-ins... check
Allows me to fill my toolbar with useless bulls**t... negative (aww damm)

Holy s**t, we've got a web browser here.


LOL! great response to that moron. This new 3.0.4 version is awesome on Windows. I've made it my default browser over Firefox. It lacks a few features I liked about Firefox but overall this browser is very good and impressive. The new Leopard UI is even gorgeous on Windows!

The first beta was terrible. But this update corrects a lot of bugs and adds many new features. I can't wait for the final release for Windows!
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #7 Posted by - Kaboose - on 15 Nov 2007 - 19:00
my webpages wont load at all
can someone help me?
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #8 Posted by Xenomorph on 15 Nov 2007 - 19:51
There are three main types of "Safari" people.

1. Those who have NEVER heard of it or have ever used it.

2. Those who use Macs and use it exclusively.

3. Those who use PCs (Linux or Windows) and respond with:
"Safari? Isn't that the web browser that boasts how cool it is, yet lacks most of the functionality, features, and stability of other web browsers?"

Is there a point to Safari on Windows? Is it for web developers to see how their pages look on a Mac?

When I'm looking at web sites, I rarely think "gee, I wish this page had loaded 1.6 times faster."

Pages load fast enough for most people once you get away from Dial Up.

What I like in my browser is functionality - and Firefox is king there.

How well does Safari block JavaScript and Ads? How well does it integrate online bookmarking like del.icio.us or browsing features like Stumble?

To me, Safari seems like some perma-skinned attempt at a browser on PC. Apple has a lot of work to do with it if they ever want people to take it seriously.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #9 Posted by Magallanes on 15 Nov 2007 - 20:07
No, you are not quite right.

You are talking about internet speed but safari is browser-render speed and there are a real gap between Safari in Firefox about the render speed, specially if you add new addins to firefox.
Quote this comment #9.1 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 16 Nov 2007 - 10:06
They both take around the same time to load up. Browsing the internet though is a bit faster on Safari. But the lack of options/features and simple navigation aren't worth it at this point.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #10 Posted by ]SK[ on 15 Nov 2007 - 20:17
I like what Apple are trying to do. They've found a way to bring technology to the fashion world. <start>They're pleasing to the eye</start>
Quote this comment #10.1 Posted by whistlerxp on 23 Nov 2007 - 21:14
You just insulted everyones favourite company... Microsoft. :o
(2 replies) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #11 Posted by DJ-Light on 15 Nov 2007 - 23:16
Fasterfox and you are done
Quote this comment #11.1 Posted by internetworld7 on 16 Nov 2007 - 01:42
Quote - (DJ-Light said @ #11)
Fasterfox and you are done


Webmasters banning you from their site for using this bandwidth sucking extension and you are gone

Safari 3 and you are REALLY done
Quote this comment #11.2 Posted by bangbang023 on 16 Nov 2007 - 01:59
FasterFox is a bit heavy on the servers. I have a more modest tweak available:
http://www.bangbang023.com/wordpress/2006/...eed-up-firefox/

It's a decent balance of local performance and respect for the server.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #12 Posted by joker999 on 16 Nov 2007 - 01:45
Lol install then start it up -- CRASH!

webkit.dll **** up
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #13 Posted by bangbang023 on 16 Nov 2007 - 02:01
The one thing about Safari that bothers me to the point that I don't use it is the font smoothing. At the lowest level, everything is horrible looking. Any higher, though, and the fonts become way too "bolded' and smaller fonts become increasingly hard to read. I wish there was an option to use the clear type already present in Windows. It does a much better job, for me.
Quote this comment #13.1 Posted by +Dakkaroth on 16 Nov 2007 - 10:05
I hear ya. It's one of the things I noted in my blog. Best thing I could come up with is "Do not allow fonts sizes smaller than 12". Seems decent at that, but pretty lame that you have to do extra work to get web content readable. And it doesn't take away the cleartype.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #14 Posted by tsupersonic on 16 Nov 2007 - 04:32
Yeah, they have no claims of saying this is a fast browser at all. Opera, enough said. Opera on my old laptop, lets me browse the web ultra fast. I'm not impressed by Safari at all, I don't see any reason why I should keep it on my system.
I don't even see why Apple released Safari for Windows (I thought it had something to do with iPhone).

Quote this comment #14.1 Posted by LinDog on 16 Nov 2007 - 06:25
I don't use it 'cause I'm on Ubuntu but to my knowledge, I think it was released to website developers to test their site and perfect it for all browser. They released this for Windhoes since it has a large crowd of users and coders.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #15 Posted by admf on 16 Nov 2007 - 09:50
Simple question - is it any less buggy than the previous release? I'm actually a fan of the browser - in theory. The ideas are generally good, but it seems to have a pretty poor level of stability and this put me off a great deal. Also, did anyone else find Safari didn't respond to stanard mouse back/forward buttons? Didn't recognise those buttons on my G5 certainly.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #16 Posted by LaXu on 16 Nov 2007 - 11:02
Does it still have the weird (non-ClearType?) font rendering and non-Windows UI conforming titlebar etc? Not that it really matters since I'd only use it for testing websites but it sucks that Apple is the only company that tries to push the Apple look to the point of having the software look exactly like on a Mac in every single way.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #17 Posted by th3rEsa on 16 Nov 2007 - 12:24
Javascript... people using Javascript should get hung and their balls burnt... useless toy stuff...
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #18 Posted by P1R4T3 on 16 Nov 2007 - 14:53
Opera 9.5 beta (kestrel) kicks more. And from my own experience thats the fastest browser so far; with tons of features. U peeps might wanna try it out.
(1 reply) Quote this comment Reply to this comment #19 Posted by firewolf on 16 Nov 2007 - 16:56
What a joke! Fastest browser on the internet... HA-HA! Try Opera and see.
Quote this comment #19.1 Posted by whistlerxp on 23 Nov 2007 - 21:15
Same speed as opera.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #20 Posted by moonfleet on 16 Nov 2007 - 17:53
I tried Safari on my XP SP2 system, 1 GIG, AMD Turion64 1.8 system. I found that it was as stable as any other browser, and that it lives up to its claim of being fast. By fast, I mean it opens up pretty fast (certainly a heck of a lot faster than Firefox 2 does), marginally faster than IE7 or about the same. Browsing is relatively fast too. Its downfall though is that it's way too simple to satisfy any power user. It does the basics well, but you quickly start to miss the add-ons of Firefox, and the ability to customize it like Opera and K-Meleon. It certainly is a very nice-looking browser. The UI is clean and simple and very elegant (kind of like Gnome rather than KDE on Linu. But I don't think it offers anything compelling as far as choosing it over others on Windows.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #21 Posted by Nexx295 on 16 Nov 2007 - 23:16
It took a few seconds to start up and after browsing around Apple's site, Safari crashed. It looks nice, but it needs hard work to make it stable for an everyday-use.
Quote this comment Reply to this comment #22 Posted by Dave Hybrid on 04 Jul 2008 - 13:09
Great bit of software, the guys at Computer Juice recommended it.
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