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Sam Alderwick   on 25 November 2008 - 19:43 · 80 comments & 15495 views

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For those who have tried Norton's security products in the past, more often than not they were described as "bloated", "slow" and there were many complaints about the pop-up notifications, although that's common amongst many anti-virus products. This time Norton would appear to have learned from mistakes of the past, by specifically targeting gamers with a "lightning fast and light as a feather" anti-virus program.

Whilst the installation still requires 150MB of hard disk space (with definitions), Norton claims that it now requires less than 6MB of memory, a small amount compared to their last release. They also claim that it "adds less than 3 seconds to boot time", which is one of the main issues with previous releases of their anti-virus products, as well as some other security products. Besides, 150MB is half the amount required by Norton 360, which was their last security suite.

Whilst the product will appeal to new gamers unfamiliar with the troubles of some anti-virus products, those who have previously tried their software, but left it for one reason or another, aren't likely to be convinced. After all, one look at the screenshot reveals little change to the interface, other than a new background and different layout. Interestingly, they also mention their "Rapid Pulse Update" technology, which "updates every 5 to 15 minutes". Although they describe these as "tiny updates", one can't help but wonder whether updating "30 times more often than the competitive industry average" would have a reverse effect on what they are trying to achieve.

Although it's not an entirely new product, Norton has made a good effort to fix many of the issues that users faced before, with a quicker, slimmer, less intrusive replacement. It's available from their website for $39.99, although subscription charges do apply. It is compatible with both Windows XP and Vista, all versions, and it can be installed on up to 3 computers with the standard subscription.

Link: Norton Antivirus 2009 Gamers Edition
Screenshot: Startup Screenshot

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(5 replies) #1 s0nic69 on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:22
why call it gamer's edition? why not just lite edition or something like that. because this might be something not just gamer's want, but people with not a lot of ram, or someone with a netbook maybe?
#1.1 Tikitiki on 26 Nov 2008 - 05:49
To make it sound better then it actually is, of course.

Kinda like Vista. Shouldn't actually been named XP + "Better skin & annoying UAC".
#1.2 FrozenEclipse on 26 Nov 2008 - 06:53
Tikitiki said,
To make it sound better then it actually is, of course.

Kinda like Vista. Shouldn't actually been named XP + "Better skin & annoying UAC".


Fail.
#1.3 jporter on 26 Nov 2008 - 15:53
Tikitiki said,
To make it sound better then it actually is, of course.

Kinda like Vista. Shouldn't actually been named XP + "Better skin & annoying UAC".

Make it an epic fail.

Tikitiki obviously does not know anything about Windows Vista. Do your homework before posting nonsense. Now go to bed son.
#1.4 s0nic69 on 26 Nov 2008 - 21:53
really guys? calm down, and let him give his opinion...
#1.5 non.sequitur2 on 27 Nov 2008 - 01:44
FrozenEclipse said,
Tikitiki said,
To make it sound better then it actually is, of course.

Kinda like Vista. Shouldn't actually been named XP + "Better skin & annoying UAC".


Fail.



Agreed, Vista is a failure.
(2 replies) #2 Duality on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:25
Nice concept... but that GUI looks bloody awful O_o
#2.1 theyarecomingforyou on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:36
Indeed. They've tried to make it very showy, which is usually the opposite of what gamers want (at least for me). Personally I think it looks much worse than the standard Norton interface.
#2.2 jporter on 26 Nov 2008 - 15:56
theyarecomingforyou said,
Indeed. They've tried to make it very showy, which is usually the opposite of what gamers want (at least for me). Personally I think it looks much worse than the standard Norton interface.

They should have made it look like their old corporate version, or just make a normal window, not with a freaking bitmap on the background and those edges god, why do they just not think.
(3 replies) #3 vetneufuse on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:41
seriously WHAT THE $%^$ is up with all these custom UI's... COMON... ooooooo its a gamer version so it has to look like it came out of half life or something.. give me a break, make it simple, make it not use up graphic resources, and make it fast...
#3.1 +Rappy on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:50
yeah wtf at that start up shot, looks like something from fallout =
#3.2 Sam Symons Live on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:16
Rappy said,
yeah wtf at that start up shot, looks like something from fallout =

Heck, I'd be happy if it looked like something from Fallout. That UI looks like something from Fallout with 90% of it just...torn off :|
#3.3 wdowell on 27 Nov 2008 - 18:12
totally agree
#4 jwjw1 on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:50
I thought Gamers were the 'Virus'
(5 replies) #5 Hercules on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:52
I'll pass -- NOD32 has this handled and I will stick with it because it's done me no wrong.

Besides they get consistently better marks than even Norton full blown, overusing CPU, RAM guzzler edition.

Trimming the fat off of Norton probably means that they trimmed the virus scanner too.
#5.1 Raa on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:04
Hercules said,
I'll pass -- NOD32 has this handled and I will stick with it because it's done me no wrong.

Besides they get consistently better marks than even Norton full blown, overusing CPU, RAM guzzler edition.

Trimming the fat off of Norton probably means that they trimmed the virus scanner too.


QFT!!
#5.2 +TCLN Ryster on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:28
Forgive me, I really should know this by now I'm sure. But what does QFT stand for?

Agreed with the NOD32 comment though. It's the most light weight AV I've ever used, and the interface is nice, simple and clean.
#5.3 +Inertia on 26 Nov 2008 - 00:54
[quote=TCLN Ryster said,]Forgive me, I really should know this by now I'm sure. But what does QFT stand for?
[quote]
Quite True
#5.4 +Kirkburn on 26 Nov 2008 - 01:28
It means Quoted For Truth. And Quite F-ing True if you're that way inclined.
#5.5 chadsss on 26 Nov 2008 - 04:56
Hercules said,
I'll pass -- NOD32 has this handled and I will stick with it because it's done me no wrong.

Besides they get consistently better marks than even Norton full blown, overusing CPU, RAM guzzler edition.

Trimming the fat off of Norton probably means that they trimmed the virus scanner too.


Try it. NOD32 used on average 36MB ram on my computer while Norton is currently using only 12MB, and it boots up way faster.
(1 reply) #6 sanke1 on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:55
lame GUI

if this one also pops up stupid messages like "Norton is performing background tasks" like Norton antivirus 2009 then I would be the first person to laugh on Symantec on their face
#6.1 darkpuma on 26 Nov 2008 - 02:42
sanke1 said,
lame GUI

if this one also pops up stupid messages like "Norton is performing background tasks" like Norton antivirus 2009 then I would be the first person to laugh on Symantec on their face
No, i would definetly beat you. With that said, i have been anti-virus free for 10 years
(1 reply) #7 Marshalus on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:56
Good idea, bad execution.
#7.1 este on 26 Nov 2008 - 13:51
Marshalus said,
Good idea, bad execution.

+1
Thats what I would say
#8 ajua on 25 Nov 2008 - 20:59
They seriously need a new GUI team (not only for this one, but all their previous 2008 and 2009 versions).

Why keep doing the "custom" interfaces that are only getting worse every time.

This Gamers edition sounds interesting from the performance hit point of view, but i doubt many of those claims.
(7 replies) #9 +Frazell Thomas on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:00
People still use Anti-Virus...

I'd rather save my CPU cycles and RAM for my usages.
#9.1 mclaren05 on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:43
Frazell Thomas said,
People still use Anti-Virus...

I'd rather save my CPU cycles and RAM for my usages.

I would love to scan a antivirus thru your system; You problably have alot more viruses than you think.
#9.2 TRC on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:18
I do run an antivirus program, but since I first went online in 1998 I have never gotten a single virus, warning or anything. I don't know what in the world people do to get them aside from I suppose stupid things like opening email attachments from strangers, never updating, or clicking every popup they see.
#9.3 Raa on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:05
mclaren05 said,
Frazell Thomas said,
People still use Anti-Virus...

I'd rather save my CPU cycles and RAM for my usages.

I would love to scan a antivirus thru your system; You problably have alot more viruses than you think.

You're welcome to scan my PC. I can guarantee you that this PC is clean. I use it for many tasks, but mainly gaming.

My other PCs run NOD though
#9.4 :: Lyon :: on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:26
You'd be surprised on how many hidden viruses & trojans that you don't know of. Even if you are extra careful, some sites (even not the dodgy ones) can have trojans embedded
#9.5 +Kirkburn on 26 Nov 2008 - 01:30
Raa said,
You're welcome to scan my PC. I can guarantee you that this PC is clean. I use it for many tasks, but mainly gaming.

My other PCs run NOD though

You "guarantee" it's clean? Only a fool would take that bet.
#9.6 devianca on 26 Nov 2008 - 12:59
TRC said,
I do run an antivirus program, but since I first went online in 1998 I have never gotten a single virus, warning or anything. I don't know what in the world people do to get them aside from I suppose stupid things like opening email attachments from strangers, never updating, or clicking every popup they see.

so f-ing true. same here i very rareeeeely get a virus.. just dont open stuff u dont need!
#9.7 plastikaa on 26 Nov 2008 - 13:14
mclaren05 said,
Frazell Thomas said,
People still use Anti-Virus...

I'd rather save my CPU cycles and RAM for my usages.

I would love to scan a antivirus thru your system; You problably have alot more viruses than you think.


Computer viruses are much rarer than people think... usually its worms, trojan horses etc. that get people. Anyone who knows that they are doing shouldn't really get a virus.
(1 reply) #10 DemØnik on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:01
I take it you haven't tried NAV2009?
#10.1 sanke1 on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:02
Yea "Norton is performing background tasks" while i am watching movies

Nice way to interrupt me

#11 signalpirate on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:12
anyone know when the "expansion pack" is coming out for this ?? LOL god what a joke..
#12 Sillysam on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:25
That is fuggly what a sorry excuse to tap into something that is truly irrelevant.
(3 replies) #13 excalpius on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:27
It's lipstick on a pig.
#13.1 +sLm4ever on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:48
excalpius said,
It's lipstick on a pig.


exactly xD .. best way to describe it xD ...
#13.2 Moe Szyslak on 26 Nov 2008 - 02:26
You cant polish a turd.
#13.3 Bizkit on 26 Nov 2008 - 07:33
Moe Szyslak said,
You cant polish a turd.


Wrong! Mythbusters did!!
#14 Typhoon87 on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:36
The cpu graph is funny, noront is using 1/3rd of the processing power. Typical Norton Antivirus



(I realize its that the machine is idle as the other 97% is not in use. Before I get flamed)
(2 replies) #15 +BeLGaRaTh on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:43
The interface seems to have been stolen from the Asus motherboard update program.
#15.1 toadeater on 26 Nov 2008 - 00:20
It was stolen from the 1990s.
#15.2 este on 26 Nov 2008 - 14:08
toadeater said,
It was stolen from the 1990s.

Norton better give it back before they get mad.
#16 TheNay on 25 Nov 2008 - 21:57
Looks cheap and a grade 8 designed it. I don't like it.
NOD32 FTW
#17 -Hiroshi- on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:12
Anti-virus with subscription = fail.
#18 Airlink on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:24
That's just hilarious. What self-respecting PC gamer would even touch Norton at all, regardless if Symantec has slapped a "GAMER" sticker on the box or not? Norton's a joke, and everyone knows it.\
Worst. Software. Ever.
#19 zeta_immersion on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:24
damn man, is norton messed up or what? since when gamers need Norton ( a system hog) to protect them from what? WOW packets of mana?
#20 Sazz181 on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:31
I can't be the only who gets annoyed when everything is given some silly name: e.g Pulse Updates, Smart Scheduler, Norton Insight etc.

And is this interface supposed to appeal to gamers? Is that the sort of look they think we look for? Freakin' nuts!



#21 +techbeck on 25 Nov 2008 - 22:45
Big woop. It took this long for Symantec to address the slow boat of a program. They lost my business and this isnt going to get it back
#22 suicide_pact on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:27
Norton's been rubbish for how long and all of a sudden they see a market and and rush to correct problems they should have YEARS ago. And then they act like they're on gamers sides when no other av company is. Laughable! Symantec has been bloatware for long and now they add popup suppression and some a different colored GUI. Never realizing they've been the problem all along IS the problem with Symantec.
#23 Sevan on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:45
That is about the worst GUI design ever..
#24 Ali Koubeissi on 25 Nov 2008 - 23:52
damn man, is norton messed up or what? since when gamers need Norton ( a system hog) to protect them from what? WOW packets of mana?


I laughed out loud.
#25 technikal on 26 Nov 2008 - 00:56
avira...for free...works just fine for me.
#26 AnthoWin on 26 Nov 2008 - 01:28
+1 Nod32. There is no competition against Nod32's resources (except maybe for a small yearly subscription)
(4 replies) #27 ThePitt on 26 Nov 2008 - 01:43
nice try Symantec... but still crappy and bloated
#27.1 Neoauld on 26 Nov 2008 - 02:06
ThePitt said,
nice try Symantec... but still crappy and bloated

did u actually try norton 2009
idiots like u who havent tried a product before judging it are why nod32 is so popular
it outranked nod32 in performance and detection..norton pulled it together
all norton needs r mindless zealots like u
#27.2 Mr. Black on 26 Nov 2008 - 02:14
Neoauld said,
did u actually try norton 2009
idiots like u who havent tried a product before judging it are why nod32 is so popular
it outranked nod32 in performance and detection..norton pulled it together
all norton needs r mindless zealots like u


Got any proof of this?
#27.3 Neoauld on 26 Nov 2008 - 02:30
Mr. Black said,
Neoauld said,
did u actually try norton 2009
idiots like u who havent tried a product before judging it are why nod32 is so popular
it outranked nod32 in performance and detection..norton pulled it together
all norton needs r mindless zealots like u


Got any proof of this?


look up av comparatives
i also tried it out myself and it was really fast..faster than my avg
i only went back 2 avg cause im too cheap to pay for an AV
#27.4 sanke1 on 26 Nov 2008 - 08:54
No it is still slow when it claims othewise.

I noticed sufficient lag on my system on boot up. There was definite lag where i couldn't pin point what was causing the slowdown as norton was at 0-2 % most of the time. But as soon as i uninstalled the TURD called NAV 2009 and re-installed NOD32, my PC was responsive again.

Beware users the norton Resources checker is playing mind tricks on you. I am telling from my own observation
#28 iwod on 26 Nov 2008 - 02:24
For those that still keep bashing Norton and uses NOD32 obviously haven't used the new 2009 version.
NOD32 is good, but for the first time in a decade, Norton 2009 is finally a recommendation for many of my friends.

So Symantec has the fixed the performance issues..... but it is quite obvious their marketing and GUI designer will need some work. Or why not firing them. That is the like WORST GUI EVER!.
#29 Bri- on 26 Nov 2008 - 03:13
That is the worst GUI of any program I have seen in the past ten years. I can't believe a company like Symantec, once a valued and trusted security firm, would ever design something like this, let alone put it in a box and sell it. What a ****ing joke! On the other hand, it's nice to know they've (finally) caught on to fixing their mistakes.
#30 DOGglee on 26 Nov 2008 - 04:00
i agree that the GUI looks bad......
#31 leo_the_lion on 26 Nov 2008 - 05:05
Bloated! System Hog! and many other criticisms show how way behind the times many of you are. I thought this was a place where people were knowledgeable but I guess I was was wrong. Have any of the critics tried any of the Norton 2009 stuff? I tried the betas earlier this year and wow! have Norton come a long way in the past year. Yep, they have listened to their critics and come up with a very good product........and I'll be first to admit it's taken about five years. It's lean, fast, very low on resources and very effective. I know because I tested it - having been a NOD and Kaspersky user in the past - and I'm very impressed.

I guess this place has more than it's fair share of people who will just troll anything made by companies like -Norton and Stardock - who have not got a clue about what they are talking about, never tried the product in question and just shoot off their mouth showing how little knowledge they really have on the subject matter
(1 reply) #32 Vezineth on 26 Nov 2008 - 05:59
Bitdefender had been concentrating on low system impact since 2007. There is also a "Game Mode" which temporarily switches some features to further make the system faster. Kaspersky has also added the Game Mode in 2009 version.

Norton jumped in late. They will have trouble gaining confidence.

And yes the interface that has been betting banged by Neowiners , it does deserve its banging. It looks as if they grabbed a kid walking to school and forced him to use MS Paint. Honestly NIS 2008,2009,360 V1 and V2 were way better.

Last edited by Vezineth on 26 Nov 2008 - 07:47
#32.1 C_Guy on 26 Nov 2008 - 15:41
I know Zone Alarm is hardly a favorite on Neowin but they've also had a 'Gamer' mode for their firewall/anti-virus suite for a long time. Works great!
#33 soldier1st on 26 Nov 2008 - 07:02
the interface is horrible and still a pig but if symantec were to give us a few interface options to choose from and let us decide what gets turned on and off then we could trim the fat out ourselves.they should start a new product from the ground up and make is modular and lean like nod.
#34 smooth_criminal1990 on 26 Nov 2008 - 10:08
so its a stripped down version of one of their products and they STILL charge money for it. Plus, I as a gamer am generally detered by anything labeled "norton"
#35 droozel on 26 Nov 2008 - 10:53
Symantec and Norton is very different brand names of product. Say never that symantec is bad. They are making awesom product for bussines, but for norton and physical users there was another story, now i see that they making changes in that and this is the time they should
#36 devianca on 26 Nov 2008 - 13:01
erm.. so how is their same product using less memory? so if im rite: same product=less memory=less viruses found?
did they shrink their scanners to achieve that or what?
#37 GEIST on 26 Nov 2008 - 14:54
I like me a fine cup of marketing ploy snake oil in the morning.
#38 C_Guy on 26 Nov 2008 - 15:39
Ha ha ha, nice one Symantec! Limit your product appeal to a single market that is least likely to want it. I'm sure every gamer's first concern is "gee I hope my anti-virus doesn't get in the way!"
#39 Stormshade on 26 Nov 2008 - 22:31
Unless You have Actually Tried this product and not "something Like it" you have NO right to Sit and bash it....
#40 Sigmatic.Minor on 27 Nov 2008 - 03:26
LOLLLLLL No thanks!
I'll stick to NOD32.. its like Norton minus the not-working-ness and slow-ness and everything-else-ness!
#41 jstillion on 27 Nov 2008 - 07:37
Why not use the technology that made this "lean" gamer av, on there mainstream product.
#42 gadean on 29 Nov 2008 - 18:23
Symantec will never touch any computer I own again. Ever. It has done more havoc on my computers than any virus I've ever had. So what does that tell me....?
#43 goatsniffer on 30 Nov 2008 - 01:29
NOD32 or Vipre Antivirus. Both are excellent for little resource usage.
#44 ozgeek on 30 Nov 2008 - 02:12
Real computer gamers don't have any software they don't really need on their PCs. Real gamers only have the game and a version of Windows or a cut-down tweaked of it. That's it.

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