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Messenger Plus! Live 4.80 and 5.0

Andrew Lyle   on 09 January 2009 - 16:46 · 33 comments & 17136 views

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Patchou, the creator and developer behind the famous Messenger Plus! Live has announced the upcoming changes to his Windows Live Messenger add-on. The announcement states that Messenger Plus! Live 4.80 Beta has been released to testers for skin compatibility in Windows Live Messenger 2009, followed up shortly with the public release of 4.80 after 10 days of testing.

Patchou also mentioned a new release of his popular software, with improved changes to the interface, and a focus on skins in the next release, Messenger Plus! Live 5.0. Messenger Plus! Live 5.0 will also improve stability between software add-ons such as A-patch, Mess patch, and other messenger add-ons, giving other developers a 3 page document to help improve overall stability in the client itself.

Messenger Plus! Live improves the users experience with other friends that have the software installed, with the ability to send multi-coloured messages, tabbed conversations, custom sounds, user created skins, and lockable messenger, just to name a few.

Windows Live Messenger 2009 was recently announced as the final version (build 1202) in the Windows Live Essentials collection that can be downloaded from download.live.com.

Link: Messenger Plus! Live Homepage

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#1 Amano on 09 Jan 2009 - 16:56
Thanks for the update
(2 replies) #2 Rix on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:06
Thought it was released

Got my hopes up for nothing
#2.1 lylesback2 on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:14
Rix said,
Thought it was released

Got my hopes up for nothing

Nope, the site still shows 4.79 to users.
#2.2 yottabytewizard on 10 Jan 2009 - 06:09
The public beta will be released during the saturday (for me it's not saturday yet), but be patient.
(8 replies) #3 shaun2312 on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:22
Do people still use this?
#3.1 andrewpking on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:30
Exactly my thoughts.
"with the ability to send multi-coloured messages" - just sounds like a waste of time to me, nothing to be gained from this except for kids who want annoying sounds playing all the time and contrasting colours making the conversation impossible to read!
#3.2 lylesback2 on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:47
andrewpking said,
Exactly my thoughts.
"with the ability to send multi-coloured messages" - just sounds like a waste of time to me, nothing to be gained from this except for kids who want annoying sounds playing all the time and contrasting colours making the conversation impossible to read!

I thought for sure you'd pick out the Canadian spelling of "colour", rather than rag on multi-coloured messaging.

People do still use the software, and has a community around it. Regardless of if people still use it, it is good to report changes and new releases, especially when our very own Sean Bradford sent me email, detailing about Plus! Live 5.0, that no other site has posted about.
#3.3 +M2Ys4U on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:04
I use it. The logging and message-recall (Ctrl+Up) are invaluable to me.
#3.4 Kamael on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:22
I use it, and lot of ppl I know use it.
#3.5 rm20010 on 10 Jan 2009 - 01:09
M2Ys4U said,
I use it. The logging and message-recall (Ctrl+Up) are invaluable to me.


Exactly. I prefer Messenger Plus's style of chat logging over the built-in XML based logging. Also of important use to me are custom toast messages and personalized statuses.
#3.6 yottabytewizard on 10 Jan 2009 - 06:11
I do to. I prefer the chat logging style of MsgPlus, and what I also use are the colored nicknames, personalized statuses and tabbed chatting. There are others, but I don't use them too much.
#3.7 GreatStalin on 10 Jan 2009 - 07:53
lylesback2 said,
andrewpking said,
Exactly my thoughts.
"with the ability to send multi-coloured messages" - just sounds like a waste of time to me, nothing to be gained from this except for kids who want annoying sounds playing all the time and contrasting colours making the conversation impossible to read!

I thought for sure you'd pick out the Canadian spelling of "colour", rather than rag on multi-coloured messaging.


Canadian spelling? I presume you mean Queen's English?
#3.8 Bhav on 01 Feb 2009 - 21:42
Tabbed chat windows
(1 reply) #4 dpcdpc11 on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:35
the link to the WL 2009 version is broken.. and the site still isn't updated!
and i would use this crap just so i could group the damn freaking windows in a single window with tabs!!
i have no idea in hell why the heck Mshit didn't include a tabbed interface in the WL Messenger... we are in the year 2009 people... wake up!! same goes for the freaking Yahoo team... tab those chat windows god dammit!
#4.1 Atlonite on 12 Jan 2009 - 08:06
Not to mention skin support aswell noting worse than a descent lookin windowblind a and then a scroaty lookin live msg skin and hell yeah tabs a great
#5 Nehemoth on 09 Jan 2009 - 17:55
Yes, I really love it and used a lot of feature of MSG plus.
#6 dogmai79 on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:03
So we should mark our calendars for 10 days from now?
(2 replies) #7 Calculator on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:03
A note to everyone here: a public beta of the new Plus! Live will be released tomorrow (Saturday, January 10). The official release will be released 10 days after that. So, contrary to what the article says, you won't have to wait another ten days to get Plus! running nicely on the WLM 2009 RC. Being a Plus! Live tester myself, I can confirm that this beta version works great on the WLM RC -- so check the site tomorrow for a public beta release!

Source: MenthiX on the Plus! Live forums.

Last edited by Calculator on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:52
#7.1 rm20010 on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:32
Thanks! Good to hear.
#7.2 Nehemoth on 09 Jan 2009 - 18:47
rm20010 said,
Thanks! Good to hear.



Thank you for the info.
(1 reply) #8 spd21 on 09 Jan 2009 - 19:52
I'm dissapointed. Why is there no Be Right Back option on the new WLM?
#8.1 chris4 on 09 Jan 2009 - 20:55
Because there was too many unnecessary options. Be right back, Out to lunch, etc. .. All you need to put is 'Away', it means the same thing.

And with a traffic light system, Green = Available, Yellow = Away, Red = Busy, it's much easier.

And with Messenger Plus! Live, you can have a custom status any way!
#9 SimNet on 09 Jan 2009 - 22:09
I use it always have.

I like the simple .txt logging and fact it has a automatic reply message cause sometimes im away so it sends a msg saying be back in _ hours or w/e withotu changing ur name ,etc, has a couple of other useful featuers as well! but i agree rest of the colored msgs **** is bull
(2 replies) #10 +DARKFiB3R on 09 Jan 2009 - 23:54
Why can't some people ever see past there own needs/wants? You are not the only demographic that uses WLM / Messenger Plus! Live. Younger users love that stuff, and there are loads of other features to use if you wish, nobody is forcing you to use them all.

Personally, I think Messenger Plus! Live has some great features. And coupled with A-Patch, it's a great way to add features you do want, and remove stuff you don't.

Everyone's a winner
#10.1 SimNet on 10 Jan 2009 - 03:51
Everyone's a winner



#10.2 DOGglee on 10 Jan 2009 - 06:04
exactly..
(3 replies) #11 Adequate on 10 Jan 2009 - 07:31
Strange... no "BUT THERE'S SPYWARE IN THIS P.O.S.!!!!!" comment yet?


I'm surprised, I must say...
#11.1 Calculator on 10 Jan 2009 - 10:23
Messenger Plus! Live comes with an optional sponsor program. This is not spyware, it's merely adware and it's the only way Patchou (the creator of Plus!) can gain some money to live.

Quoted from Patchou himself (source):
The sponsor that optionally comes with Messenger Plus! is a harmless piece of software that installs various advertisements in Windows, it is adware, not spyware.


And most important: the sponsor program is optional. During the installation, Plus! asks the user whether he/she wants to support Plus! by installing the sponsor. There can be no doubt about it!
  1. You first choose whether you want to install the sponsor program.
  2. If you choose "yes", you need to accept the license agreement of the sponsor program.
  3. Afterwards, you accept the license agreement of Messenger Plus! Live itself.

There is no obligation whatsoever, there isn't even a default selected option: you have to read and click whether you install it or not, you can't skip it.

So no, I'm actually not surprised at all!
#11.2 Nehemoth on 10 Jan 2009 - 15:29
Well said.

I hate when people call this amazing piece of software spyware or something.

This should be the only program in the entire Internet which actually have a great sponsor program.


Calculator said,
Messenger Plus! Live comes with an optional sponsor program. This is not spyware, it's merely adware and it's the only way Patchou (the creator of Plus!) can gain some money to live.

Quoted from Patchou himself (source):

And most important: the sponsor program is optional. During the installation, Plus! asks the user whether he/she wants to support Plus! by installing the sponsor. There can be no doubt about it!
  1. You first choose whether you want to install the sponsor program.
  2. If you choose "yes", you need to accept the license agreement of the sponsor program.
  3. Afterwards, you accept the license agreement of Messenger Plus! Live itself.

There is no obligation whatsoever, there isn't even a default selected option: you have to read and click whether you install it or not, you can't skip it.

So no, I'm actually not surprised at all!

#11.3 Slugbait on 11 Jan 2009 - 16:40
Nehemoth said,
Well said.

I hate when people call this amazing piece of software spyware or something.

This should be the only program in the entire Internet which actually have a great sponsor program.


Nobody has ever called Messenger Plus! spyware.

However, this "great sponsor program" bundled with Plus! was referred to specifically as spyware by Microsoft:

Cyril Paciullo was awarded with MVP status this year on the basis of his technical expertise and strong community contribution. However, his active MVP Award status was revoked as soon as the extent of the connection between his application and spyware was made apparent to the MVP Program


On Wikipedia, the category is Spyware.

Most security sites classify it as Adware, although the description always reads:
Lop is a group of spyware and hijacker programs that set your Internet Explorer start page and search features to use the site lop.com ('Live Online Portal') or one of its clone sites.


Three years ago, my neighbor called me in a panic cuz the laptop she used for her business suddenly slowed down so much that it became unusable. After a QnA session, I found out she had installed Plus! and succumbed to the social engineering aspect of the installer...

...and like 20 years of studies have repeatedly shown, she didn't read the EULA.

Arguing that the victim has to CHOOSE whether or not to install Lop is a dead horse. Nobody who has been compromised by Lop cares.

But hey, I could be way off base here...if it's now a "great sponsor program", then Patchou obviously isn't using Lop any more.
(1 reply) #12 yottabytewizard on 11 Jan 2009 - 06:50
Well, it just got released
#12.1 Calculator on 11 Jan 2009 - 13:05
Yup, the public beta is here.

Announement: "Another year, another version :-)" on the Plus! Live forums
Download: On this page click the link in the note for Windows Live Messenger 2009 users.
#13 [DGS] on 12 Jan 2009 - 13:26
what is the full build number for the new 4.79 ?

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