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Sam Symons   on 09 June 2009 - 00:41 · 88 comments & 9901 views

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At the World Wide Developer Conference today, Apple announced that they have made their browser, Safari 4, publicly available as a final release. The browser packs some rather handy new features over the old version, so we'll go over them below.

First, Safari 4 is around about 4.5 times faster than the previous iteration; Phil Schiller, Apple's senior vice president of Worldwide Product Marketing, said, "The successful beta release helped us fine tune Safari 4 into an even better, faster version that customers are going to love. Safari is enjoyed by 70 million users worldwide and with its blazing fast speed, innovative features and support for modern web standards, it's the best browser on any platform." The speed boosts come from Safari 4 being built on the Nitro javascript engine, which means it runs javascript code just about eight times faster than IE 8, and nearly four times faster than Firefox 3, according to Apple's tests.

The final version of Safari 4 has a few UI changes; these include (according to AppleInsider):

-- Top Sites, offering a visual preview of frequently visited and favorite pages
-- Full History Search, to search through titles, web addresses and the complete text of recently viewed pages
-- Cover Flow, to easily flip through web history or bookmarks.
-- Smart Address Fields for automatically completing web addresses from an easy to read list of suggestions
-- Search Fields, to fine tune searches with recommendations from Google Suggest or a list of recent searches
-- Full Page Zoom, for a closer look at any website without degrading the quality of the site's layout and text.


If you wish to get a hold of Safari 4, please head to Apple's download page to get it as a free download for Mac OS X, or Windows.

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(13 replies) #1 andrewbares on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:13
I'm still not going to install it on my PC. If it's anything like iTunes (bloated and terrible design), then it's not gonna come near my elegant Windows 7 PC.
#1.1 simon360 on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:34
Safari 4, unlike safari 3, is in fact quite refined and well done on windows.
#1.2 andrewbares on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:38
Idk, I'm happy with IE 8, and the Opera beta is way faster with Turbo, which is good for my slow connection.
#1.3 Raa on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:24
I prefer Chrome myself...
#1.4 FoxieFoxie on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:41
"world's fastest and most innovative web browser."

WOOOW...
#1.5 AnthoWin on 09 Jun 2009 - 09:18
Great for my mac. But my PC can enjoy something better. It's called Chrome!
#1.6 Beastage on 09 Jun 2009 - 10:54
simon360 said,
Safari 4, unlike safari 3, is in fact quite refined and well done on windows.


I know it runs better than before... but I'm always suspicious at Apple software for windows, safari 4 without QT is 28MB, which is alot compared to any other browser (including the other webkit chrome) and I just never understood why.
#1.7 +Smigit on 09 Jun 2009 - 11:36
simon360 said,
Safari 4, unlike safari 3, is in fact quite refined and well done on windows.

Not that I'm planning to install it but that's good to hear. They went a long way to improving iTunes on Windows earlier in the year.
#1.8 Faisal Islam on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:23
FoxieFoxie said,
"world's fastest and most innovative web browser."

WOOOW...


lolz...how?
#1.9 FoxieFoxie on 09 Jun 2009 - 15:39
Faisal Islam said,
FoxieFoxie said,
"world's fastest and most innovative web browser."

WOOOW...


lolz...how?


as usual, apple bull****
#1.10 k7of9 on 09 Jun 2009 - 17:27
andrewbares said,
I'm still not going to install it on my PC. If it's anything like iTunes (bloated and terrible design), then it's not gonna come near my elegant Windows 7 PC.


It still is terribly designed. Apple wanted to copy Chrome's tabs, err I mean innovate, by turning the entire windowborders into huge tabs making it look ridiculous and unusable. But hey, it's Apple so everybody not loving it must be wrong.
#1.11 LaP on 09 Jun 2009 - 17:38
andrewbares said,
Idk, I'm happy with IE 8, and the Opera beta is way faster with Turbo, which is good for my slow connection.

If you don't care then why do you post here ???

Seems to me like you actually care a lot ...
#1.12 Rev. on 09 Jun 2009 - 18:25
k7of9 said,
It still is terribly designed. Apple wanted to copy Chrome's tabs, err I mean innovate, by turning the entire windowborders into huge tabs making it look ridiculous and unusable. But hey, it's Apple so everybody not loving it must be wrong.


isn't that gone now...
#1.13 rm20010 on 10 Jun 2009 - 01:55
Even then the UI looked too much like a copy of Chrome, even down to the positioning of the menu items.

The new tab page did look quite fancy, I'll give them that.
#2 BoDEAN on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:14
Ill pass too.
(5 replies) #3 NimrodUK on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:16
Hows it compared to Chrome?
#3.1 Raa on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:24
Chrome wins, I do believe
#3.2 Jugalator on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:51
It's on par with Chrome's speed and standard support, both are excellent here and way ahead of Firefox 3.5 and IE 8. However, it lacks the elusive extension support that is at least on the roadmap for Chrome (and doable even now although it's annoying), and does not come with integrated ad blocking, just pop-up blocking.
#3.3 +Xerxes on 09 Jun 2009 - 11:31
I'm not sure how fast the latest builds of Chrome go, but Safari 4 blows pretty much everything else away and Apple have even added support for showing download progress in the superbar in Win7 which is a nice touch. The UI still needs some work, still feels a little messy (not sure how to explain) but it's Apple's first real attempt at conforming with the look and feel of an OS that isn't their own and I hope this new approach catches on with their other cross-platform products
#3.4 k7of9 on 09 Jun 2009 - 17:31
You don't attempt to conform to the look and feel of an OS, you just do by making use of the provided toolkits for the platform.
I mean, it isn't THAT hard.
How is turning the windowborder into a huge tab, thus placing the tab title into the window glass, something which is clearly advised against in the interface guidelines conforming to the OS?
#3.5 +Xerxes on 10 Jun 2009 - 10:21
k7of9 said,
You don't attempt to conform to the look and feel of an OS, you just do by making use of the provided toolkits for the platform.
I mean, it isn't THAT hard.
How is turning the windowborder into a huge tab, thus placing the tab title into the window glass, something which is clearly advised against in the interface guidelines conforming to the OS?

Till recently Apple found that very hard! they would throw all Windows GUI conventions out the window (pun intended!) and go out of their way to make their Windows apps look, feel and behave like an OSX app.
(5 replies) #4 dagamer34 on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:40
Any way to get the tabs back on top? I rather likes that feature.
#4.1 Raa on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:24
Apparently not?
#4.2 +d3bruts1d on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:04
dagamer34 said,
Any way to get the tabs back on top? I rather likes that feature.

Nope.
#4.3 S a i f on 09 Jun 2009 - 17:17
dagamer34 said,
Any way to get the tabs back on top? I rather likes that feature.


I am switching back to Chrome until I find a way to do that
#4.4 +CrimsonRedMk on 09 Jun 2009 - 17:54
I liked it as well.
#4.5 Rev. on 09 Jun 2009 - 18:27
I'm rather happy they aren't up there anymore. Chrome did it perfect, though Apple's was ... eh...no. Especially if your using on Windows with a different theme, there was problems with 99% of the themes I use.
(10 replies) #5 zagor on 09 Jun 2009 - 02:56
Just tested against Chromium (my default browser). Chromium is %10 faster. Funny how Safari 4 looks a lot like Chromium!
#5.1 roadwarrior on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:24
Gee, ya think? Especially since Chromium is based on the core code from Safari.
#5.2 andrewbares on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:35
roadwarrior said,
Gee, ya think? Especially since Chromium is based on the core code from Safari.


That has nothing to do with it. The rendering engine code doesn't affect the browser design style.
#5.3 +Xerxes on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:58
Really? on my machine Safari 4 blows everything I've thrown at it out the water, Opera/Firefox/IE8 (Vista x64) leaves them for dead. I still prefer Firefox but there is no doubt Apple have made great strides with Safari 4 and I sure hope it rubs off on iTunes and QuickTime [in Windows]!
#5.4 zagor on 09 Jun 2009 - 05:17
Xerxes said,
Really? on my machine Safari 4 blows everything I've thrown at it out the water, Opera/Firefox/IE8 (Vista x64) leaves them for dead. I still prefer Firefox but there is no doubt Apple have made great strides with Safari 4 and I sure hope it rubs off on iTunes and QuickTime [in Windows]!


Safari 4 is definitely faster than IE8 when it comes to Javascript. But it is slower than Chromium (latest build) on my system. Chromium took 716.4 ms to complete the test whereas Safari completed the test in 774.2 ms. For the javascript benchmarking you may use http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/...der-driver.html
#5.5 Jugalator on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:53
zagor said,
Just tested against Chromium (my default browser). Chromium is %10 faster. Funny how Safari 4 looks a lot like Chromium!

It doesn't look much the same to me now that they moved from Safari 4 Beta's tabs on top?

Now Safari 4 looks a lot like Safari 3, actually. :p
#5.6 Jugalator on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:54
zagor said,
Safari 4 is definitely faster than IE8 when it comes to Javascript. But it is slower than Chromium (latest build) on my system. Chromium took 716.4 ms to complete the test whereas Safari completed the test in 774.2 ms. For the javascript benchmarking you may use http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/...der-driver.html

Yes, I agree with this too, Safari and Chrome seem to follow each other pretty well in the benchmarks I've run and seen. IE 8 is pretty good at HTML and DOM rendering speeds that helps balance things up a bit, but Javascript was never its strong card.
#5.7 Beastage on 09 Jun 2009 - 10:57
No one ever doubts javascript benchmarks? considering this popular one is hosted on ... WEBKIT.org...

Anyway my opinion is that javascript benchmarks mean nothing in real life scenarios, I use firefox but I still think that the fastest browser that renders pages is Opera followed by IE8.
#5.8 .Reo on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:52
zagor said,
Funny how Safari 4 looks a lot like Chromium!

Safari has looked like this since its initial release. The mayor interface tweaks you see today were introduced around Leopard's release.
#5.9 yakumo on 09 Jun 2009 - 14:53
Xerxes said,
Really? on my machine Safari 4 blows everything I've thrown at it out the water, Opera/Firefox/IE8 (Vista x64) leaves them for dead. I still prefer Firefox but there is no doubt Apple have made great strides with Safari 4 and I sure hope it rubs off on iTunes and QuickTime [in Windows]!


That would be more interesting if version numbers were listed. FF 3.5 b4 and the pre-rc beta 99 are very fast...
#5.10 +Xerxes on 10 Jun 2009 - 10:15
yakumo said,
That would be more interesting if version numbers were listed. FF 3.5 b4 and the pre-rc beta 99 are very fast...

I can accommodate that, tested were Opera 10 Beta and FF3.5 Preview, Safari 4 just blitzed them. I'm not talking about benchmarks here, I'm talking about general real world use. I don't care how many milliseconds they can run a script etc I care about how well they perform in real world applications.
(1 reply) #6 Juan4Ever on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:15
testing it right now and I have to say I love the new GUI... looks similar to chrome BTW
#6.1 Digix on 09 Jun 2009 - 05:51
Juan4Ever said,
testing it right now and I have to say I love the new GUI... looks similar to chrome BTW


Because that's basically all it is, chrome with a bit of cover flow.
(2 replies) #7 +Frazell Thomas on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:19
I'm not sure I'll install it as after that shoving Safari down people's throat via a Quicktime update I've banned this browser until further notice...

But I wonder how useful that cover flow idea for history really is. It looks like it could be very cumbersome and time consuming when searching through your history (as, for me at least, the text matters more than the look as I'll forget the look).
#7.1 andrewbares on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:37
lol I dropped installing anything apple when they shoved Safari down our throats via the Quicktime update. That was a terrible business move. (moderators, those were his words that he used, so don't remove my comment like you did last time)
#7.2 Raa on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:25
I dropped installing anything Apple when they shoved automatic updates down the throat WITHOUT it doing anything at all. Eff that!

#8 brianshapiro on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:22
I'm so glad they ditched the rendering model in Safari 3 that made everything look different than it does in othr browsers
(8 replies) #9 DeadOnArrival on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:34
I been testing this browser since it was available to download, tested it on xp, vista, and 7 all with the same results on 3 different pcs. its a god dang memory whore. It starts out at around 35 to 40mbs of ram, and once you start hitting up web sites it sky rockets into the 100mb range, open history add another 50 to 75mb. Open the top list, add another 25 to 75mb. I had safari 4 topping in at almost 450mb of ram, my WOW runs at 700mb of ram.. this browser has terrible memory management going on.

edit, current ram usuage from test I'm doing now, I'm currently at 331mb of ram for safari on my notebook with opening my history and closing it. my wow on my 7 box is consuming 520mb of ram.. very bad memory management...
#9.1 zagor on 09 Jun 2009 - 03:45
hmm...this is funny...Safari using %30 CPU when it is idle! Nahh, I dont see a compelling reason to switch to Safari..well. maybe next time Apple...try it harder!
#9.2 PsykX on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:09
Barely 2% here. What page where you on?
#9.3 zagor on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:18
PsykX said,
Barely 2% here. What page where you on?

#9.4 +techbeck on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:18
zagor said,
hmm...this is funny...Safari using %30 CPU when it is idle! Nahh, I dont see a compelling reason to switch to Safari..well. maybe next time Apple...try it harder!


I dont like Apple much, but I think you have page open that auto refreshes or has a lot of activity going on for that to happen. RU on a blank screen or do you have a site loaded?
#9.5 zagor on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:18
http://www2.webkit.org/perf/sunspider-0.9/sunspider.html used for the Javascript Becnhmark...

For the memory and CPU tests, I used 6 pages both on Chromium and Safari..Gmail, Facebook, Neowin, Gizmodo, Engadget, Tomshardware
#9.6 jblazea50 on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:21
oh wow, never really noticed how much of a memory hog Safari is; i only have one page open and it's taking up 144,500kb of memory, compared with firefox 3.5beta is 50,000kb and chrome 3.0 is 44,000kb

tested on same page for all three browsers
#9.7 Raa on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:26
OWCH.
#9.8 Jugalator on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:56
jblazea50 said,
oh wow, never really noticed how much of a memory hog Safari is; i only have one page open and it's taking up 144,500kb of memory, compared with firefox 3.5beta is 50,000kb and chrome 3.0 is 44,000kb

tested on same page for all three browsers

Yes, and check out the memory increase by time as well. It can easily go up to 400 MB here. This is my only major complaint about Safari, really. I was hoping it would be fixed in Safari 4 since Safari 3, but no.
#10 +techbeck on 09 Jun 2009 - 04:15
NTY...I am trying to get rid of Apple products...dont need another
(5 replies) #11 haefft on 09 Jun 2009 - 05:13
Don't install Safari 4! There is incompatibles with BB. Wish I had know this before blindingly hitting the software update. I guess this weekend I will have to reformat!
#11.1 buletov on 09 Jun 2009 - 05:36
uhm, system restore?
#11.2 Jugalator on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:57
BB?
#11.3 RAID 0 on 09 Jun 2009 - 08:11
Jugalator said,
BB?


#11.4 Grandaevus on 09 Jun 2009 - 11:51
LOL, excellent choice of picture of him too
#11.5 Grandaevus on 09 Jun 2009 - 11:51
doppelganger
#12 Cristanu on 09 Jun 2009 - 05:37
Zagor, interesting site, thanks!
On WinXP:

1. IE8 : Total: 6239.6ms +/- 4.8%
2. FF3.10 : Total: 3419.8ms +/- 2.0%
3. Safari4: Total: 884.2ms +/- 2.5%
4. G.2.180: Total: 736.6ms +/- 11.4%

Reverse order, making Google the fastest on this system. Might not be fair since all with the exception of Safari, run their cache from a virtual RAM drive partition thus no hdd screeching and churning. If anyone knows how to relocate Safari's cache please post, there is a lot of hdd activity (per Process Explorer) each time Safari finishes loading a website - if this can't be fixed, I'm back to IE8
(3 replies) #13 nyolc8 on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:03
They took down the tabs from top... I viewed into the exe, and it looks like it's completely removed.
#13.1 +xiphi on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:37
Thank God! It was a TERRIBLE idea to put the tabs in the Title Bar.
#13.2 nyolc8 on 09 Jun 2009 - 08:52
Why they aren't made an option for this? For those who liked the tabs on top.
#13.3 +d3bruts1d on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:07
nyolc8 said,
They took down the tabs from top... I viewed into the exe, and it looks like it's completely removed.


It appears that way. :'(
(6 replies) #14 satanist on 09 Jun 2009 - 06:21
Neowin is completely infected with windows fanboys here.Someone please clean them up!!
#14.1 +xiphi on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:35
Huh?
#14.2 Jugalator on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:59
satanist said,
Neowin is completely infected with windows fanboys here.Someone please clean them up!!

lol. I don't think they're going to be "cleaned up", but this is primarily a Windows fansite.
#14.3 LaP on 09 Jun 2009 - 20:29
Jugalator said,
lol. I don't think they're going to be "cleaned up", but this is primarily a Windows fansite.


It's a thing to be a fan of a company and it's another thing to talk ****.

I honestly like MS products. I own a 360. I own a legal copy pf Vista Home Premium (not OEM but boxed retail). I owned a MS mouse in the past and liked it (curently own a Logitech g7). I use hotmail.

MS improved IE a lot lately and for everyday use like reading news and getting it's mail from Hotmail it's a nice browser.

But when someone write that it is the fastest browser it's where i draw the line between a blind fanboy and a fan.

I'm a web developper i have to deal with JS and content heavy web pages. We have a web page here with lot of content (cause the client doesn't want pagination *roll eyes*) and simple optimized JS dealing with this content and the web page is around 20 secondes slower to draw in IE 7 than Opera. And it's not a joke.

I must admit thought FF is becoming slower and slower and IE is catching up. There's still work to do for MS.
#14.4 RAID 0 on 09 Jun 2009 - 21:20
Wow, LaP. You must really wanted us to read that post... I mean, 5 times... nice.
#14.5 rm20010 on 10 Jun 2009 - 01:58
satanist said,
Neowin is completely infected with windows fanboys here.Someone please clean them up!!


Pot, meet kettle.
#14.6 CarlosMiguel on 15 Jun 2009 - 09:49
satanist said,
Neowin is completely infected with windows fanboys here.Someone please clean them up!!


Windows fanboys are not the infection here, don't forget this site started as a windows fan site. It is you arrogant MAC Fanatic are the real infection here always bashing Windows... Even your GODLY MAC is not PERFECT.
(3 replies) #15 Soldiers33 on 09 Jun 2009 - 07:40
ill stick to ie8. never liked apple
#15.1 cork1958 on 09 Jun 2009 - 09:46
Soldiers33 said,
ill stick to ie8. never liked apple


Not that I don't like Apple, but I don't really. I think I'll pass on this also.
I'll stick to IE8, K-Meleon, Opera 10b, and Seamonkey!!
#15.2 +d3bruts1d on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:07
Soldiers33 said,
ill stick to ie8. never liked apple

I'll stick with Firefox or Opera. Never liked Microsoft.
#15.3 Faisal Islam on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:29
me tooo IE RULES the web world...
#16 superhuman on 09 Jun 2009 - 08:18
Chrome is faster and extremely light. I like it a lot. Safari is good but bloated like Firefox which makes my compie runs very hot.
#17 +Chipshop on 09 Jun 2009 - 09:17
Problem i've been seeing is that with the new colour profile management when a web developer has exported an image for use in a website if they haven't turned of colour profiles in export options then Safari renders it in a different shade.

From what i've researched this is going to become common place in all browsers, so don't be surprised if some of your fav websites start to look a little odd!
#18 Julius Caro on 09 Jun 2009 - 10:19
I'm tired of this X times faster bull*hit
(1 reply) #19 EVANK on 09 Jun 2009 - 11:27
Been using the beta for a while and I must confess, I actully like it will be installing today.
#19.1 +d3bruts1d on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:08
EVANK said,
Been using the beta for a while and I must confess, I actully like it will be installing today.

Hope you didn't like having the tabs at the top. They are gone in Safari 4 final. :'(
(1 reply) #20 bradsday on 09 Jun 2009 - 12:12
Okay, so was very skeptical about using Safari 4.0 on my Vista 64 bit machine, but after reading the side-by-side results of speeds compared to IE8, FireFox, and Opera, decided to give it a try. Let me first say that if you use iTunes, you will be very comfortable with this application. It does have some very cool interface techniques that are absolutely unique. Also, for the first time, the interface blends perfectly with Vista. Frankly, it just looks beautiful. And, better than all of that, the browser is incredibly fast; without any data to back it, would say that it feels about twice as fast as IE7.

So, it's a great, cool, fast, good-looking, browser. Now let me tell you why I will not being using Safari 4.0: There is virtually no plugin support for the Windows platform for this browser. Not only will you not find the standards such as Adobe Flash, Acrobat, and so on, but even the most basic Java Scripts are unsupported. You are prompted repeatedly to download the plugins, only to find out that they do not exist. Thus, your pages do not always render properly. The whole experience is truly frustrating.

It is a shame that a browser this good is really not entirely available to the Windows user. Sure, you can download and install it on your computer, but without solid plugin support, it just isn't worth the time.
#20.1 m.keeley on 09 Jun 2009 - 14:25
Since when did it stop supporting flash? The reason I won't use it under Windows is no Roboform integration.
#21 k7of9 on 09 Jun 2009 - 17:41
First, Safari 4 is around about 4.5 times faster than the previous iteration

Source: Apple.com
#22 +what on 09 Jun 2009 - 19:22
I'm personally finding it a lot slower on both my Macs than Firefox 3. And by the sounds of it FF 3.5 will be even faster when it comes out :/
#23 RealFduch on 10 Jun 2009 - 07:32
Safari 3 is cool. It still lets any hackers's site to steal any file from your system or run any program.

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