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Firefox 3.5 Release Candidate 2 released

Sam Symons   on 20 June 2009 - 07:46, updated 21 June 2009 - 06:25 · 116 comments & 15049 views

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Just today, Mozilla, famous for their Firefox browser, have released the second release candidate for the upcoming version 3.5, for public use. This build comes not long after the first release candidate, and as you can expect, packs some changes. The Washington Post has a great overview of all the next features in the updated browser.

Private Browsing:
Firefox 3.5 includes a private browsing feature, much like the other main browsers on the market now, which means that you can surf the Internet without leaving a trace; history is not recorded, so it's perfect for those that are... looking for gifts for others. The one problem that people see with the Mozilla solution to this is that the browser does not show you if you are in private browsing mode; you'll just have to remember, although, you will get an occasional message the pops up.

To add to the privacy factor of the new 3.5 version, you can open up the History page, and then by right-clicking an item of history, you can choose to 'Forget this Site'. By doing so, you will (as expected) have all items of that URL gone from history.

Location Services:
Firefox 3.5 brings the interesting feature of location services; you can find your location by I.P. address, using nearby WiFi networks via Google Location Services. If you're using a WWAN card in your notebook, you can use the nearby cellphone towers to pinpoint your location. As it stands, this new service isn't particularly useful as not many sites support it, but in the future it could be very handy. The Washington Post tested it out and their location was found to within a couple of blocks, so if you're in a new city, using it to find nearby restaurants or other services could be extremely useful.

The other features that are improved in this new release candidate aren't exactly new, so they're not worth mentioning here (tear-off tabs and restoring your session from a crashed browser). If you want to download the second release candidate, you can either use the automatic updater within Firefox, or visit this link.

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(12 replies) #1 artfuldodga on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:31
hands down best browser... i'm not quite sure how some folks think its slow loading, taking ages to start? my own starts up in miliseconds and thats 3.0.11, 3.5 is faster (6 addons loaded and 2 plugins, flash / silverlight)

either way, can't wait for 3.5 final
#1.1 PsykX on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:42
artfuldodga said,
hands down best browser...

I wish it was in Cocoa and it had a native interface on the Mac... not that I'm looking for an alternative to Safari, but I respect Firefox a lot and would like to use it a little more sometimes...
#1.2 Calum on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:24
PsykX said,
I wish it was in Cocoa and it had a native interface on the Mac... not that I'm looking for an alternative to Safari, but I respect Firefox a lot and would like to use it a little more sometimes...

I thought it was native on the Mac, since version 3?

There's going to be a few slight differences, but from what I've seen the interface is beautiful on the Mac version (e.g. clicking on the bookmark star brings up that nice black overlay thing).

@artfuldodga -
It used to be very slow for me and would crash / make my system very slow after loading up a lot of tabs - something Safari, Chrome, Opera and even IE haven't done yet. However, I have gone back to Firefox since the release candidate as it is my favourite browser. I just hope the issues I mentioned aren't there anymore. It seems much faster than it was before I tried this RC version.
#1.3 FoxieFoxie on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:13
"This build comes not long after the first release candidate"

There never was a RC1.
#1.4 LAMj on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:25
FoxieFoxie said,
"This build comes not long after the first release candidate"

There never was a RC1.


There was. If you were using beta 4, it automatically updated to technical preview (rc1)
#1.5 FoxieFoxie on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:29
LAMj said,
FoxieFoxie said,
"This build comes not long after the first release candidate"

There never was a RC1.


There was. If you were using beta 4, it automatically updated to technical preview (rc1)


It was pre-rc, official and final rc was never announced
#1.6 ev0| on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:48
There was beta 4, and beta 99 (pre-rc) and there was an RC build. I'd been running it for about 2 days. Really quick to RC2
#1.7 ThaCrip on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:38
hands down best browser


that's the bottom line 'overall'
#1.8 m.keeley on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:24
Good enough but not clearly the best.
#1.9 ThaCrip on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:08
m.keeley said,
Good enough but not clearly the best.



each browsers has there up's and down's but i think when you look at the browser as a whole and what it offers it's probably the 'best all around choice' of Browser.... with extensions (extensions are a big bonus. AdBlock Plus etc) general all around speed and most sites seem to work in Firefox pretty well and Firefox is getting more and more mature to.
#1.10 PsykX on 20 Jun 2009 - 22:41
Calum said,
I thought it was native on the Mac, since version 3?

There's going to be a few slight differences, but from what I've seen the interface is beautiful on the Mac version (e.g. clicking on the bookmark star brings up that nice black overlay thing).


Hmmm, this is also what I read, but not what I think... The prefpane looks like it's not native to me (the transitions between tabs seem different,it doesn't follow Apple's guidelines at all (ok it has nothing to do with being native though - I know), that button to remove the toolbar is not supposed to be there and if it was meant to be there, there's no transition, etc.), same for the back button, and there's no transition in the black HUD when you enlarge it with the "view more" buttons, no transition to hide the main controls of Firefox, it seems they used a different kind of coding that makes these transitions really hard to do

But I recall myself viewing immediately that the interface wasn't native, now it's harder to see, so you know what... I think you're right. It IS native, but it just doesn't respect Apple's guidelines and uses special buttons that don't even fit with the OS, and we don't have any transition.

Last edited by PsykX on 20 Jun 2009 - 22:55
#1.11 michael.dobrofsky on 20 Jun 2009 - 23:04
FoxieFoxie said,
"This build comes not long after the first release candidate"

There never was a RC1.


Then what did I download with the filename Mozilla Firefox 3.5 RC1?
#1.12 Redmak on 21 Jun 2009 - 09:19
FoxieFoxie said,
"This build comes not long after the first release candidate"

There never was a RC1.

http://www.neowin.net/news/software/09/06/17/firefox-35-rc1
(2 replies) #2 -Vivicidal- on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:34
Mine is a bit slow, but I think thats down to my plugins. Firefox is my favourite due to its plugins, else I'd be using a different browser. Private browsing makes no sense to me, I doubt I'd ever use it.
#2.1 Faisal Islam on 21 Jun 2009 - 03:37
yea FF 3.5 is slow
#2.2 skynetXrules on 22 Jun 2009 - 12:25
no ,it is not
#3 +Callum M-R on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:35
The one problem that people see with the Mozilla solution to this is that the browser does not show you if you are in private browsing mode


Apart from, y'know, the bit in the title bar stating "Private Browsing".
(12 replies) #4 caerma on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:38
Heavy and slow.
#4.1 +Callum M-R on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:39
That would be true if it wasn't the opposite.
#4.2 PsykX on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:40
Callum M-R said,
That would be true if it wasn't the opposite.

My brain just died.
#4.3 thealexweb on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:41
caerma said,
Heavy and slow.


caerma you clearly have not tried this or RC1, its very different to older Betas. Most people are saying it can match Chrome when it comes to speed.
#4.4 MountainSnake on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:15
Callum M-R said,
That would be true if it wasn't the opposite.


WTF??
#4.5 Caleb on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:20
caerma said,
Heavy and slow.


Completely true. Opera still kicks its ass.
#4.6 soonerproud on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:27
Caleb said,
Completely true. Opera still kicks its ass.


Except Opera does not properly display large text images (They are blocky) when zoomed into. For those of us who are over 40, have decent vision but have problems with small print, that is a deal breaker.
#4.7 Calum on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:30
As I just said in an above comment, the earlier beta versions of 3.5 were incredibly slow for me and worse than 3.0.

However, this RC version has ran brilliant for me. Extremely fast compared to any version of Firefox I have ran before and I am glad as it is my favourite browser
#4.8 Chasethebase on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:38
Depends how many addons you install

Love the RC, but Neowin should start using the new icon for the posts.
#4.9 paokun on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:52
caerma said,
Heavy and slow.


+1. Chrome rules.
#4.10 FrozenEclipse on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:27
Caleb said,
Completely true. Opera still kicks its ass.


At being a failure, sure.
#4.11 simon360 on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:45
Chasethebase said,
Love the RC, but Neowin should start using the new icon for the posts.

Fixed for ya
#4.12 Dave_ek on 22 Jun 2009 - 11:26
PsykX said,
My brain just died.


terrible way to word a sentence, not the best way to use english language considering a lot of foreign people browse this site.

you used would future tense and a positive followed by a double negative in one sentence. Awesome.

It does make sense though
(9 replies) #5 andrewbares on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:40
Not gonna download, I want IE to get more market share. I hate hearing Firefox & Opera complain. Anyone with me?
#5.1 thealexweb on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:43
andrewbares said,
Not gonna download, I want IE to get more market share. I hate hearing Firefox & Opera complain. Anyone with me?


That's just being childish, not choosing your browser because of the one you think is best but because of how the company acts with the EU. Also it isn't Mozilla leading the attack on Microsoft.
#5.2 Chasethebase on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:38
That's bad. If IE gets more market share the EU will continue to press their case. I want Windows 7 with a browser thank you very much.
#5.3 Deathray on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:07
andrewbares said,
Not gonna download, I want IE to get more market share. I hate hearing Firefox & Opera complain. Anyone with me?


I actually respect that... Most people are just against Opera, but the truth of the matter is that Mozilla and Google are in the mix with Opera
#5.4 Lord Ba'al on 20 Jun 2009 - 22:44
andrewbares said,
Not gonna download, I want IE to get more market share. I hate hearing Firefox & Opera complain. Anyone with me?

No. Shove your infantile crap where the sun ain't shining.
#5.5 C_Guy on 21 Jun 2009 - 08:04
No, I use IE8 solely because it is better and faster than Opera and FireFox.
#5.6 toadeater on 21 Jun 2009 - 09:07
C_Guy said,
No, I use IE8 solely because it is better and faster than Opera and FireFox.


You use it because you're a notorious MS troll and so is Andrew Bares. I don't know how you two get away with posting this kind of flame bait on a regular basis when I get a warning for saying "Firefox FTW" once!
#5.7 Dave_ek on 22 Jun 2009 - 11:30
toadeater said,
You use it because you're a notorious MS troll and so is Andrew Bares. I don't know how you two get away with posting this kind of flame bait on a regular basis when I get a warning for saying "Firefox FTW" once!


Umm, sorry mate but I agree with C_Guy. Every once in a while I switch to Opera/firefox when I get bored then immediately switch back to IE. And this is because it doesn't seem to matter what site I'm browsing IE always opens it more quickly. Could just be me, but I am fed up of people slating MS and their apps. IE is very quick.. stop denying it.
#5.8 Lord Ba'al on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:12
toadeater said,
You use it because you're a notorious MS troll and so is Andrew Bares. I don't know how you two get away with posting this kind of flame bait on a regular basis when I get a warning for saying "Firefox FTW" once!

This belongs into the "Sad, but true" category.
#5.9 geoken on 23 Jun 2009 - 13:03
Dave_ek said,
Umm, sorry mate but I agree with C_Guy. Every once in a while I switch to Opera/firefox when I get bored then immediately switch back to IE. And this is because it doesn't seem to matter what site I'm browsing IE always opens it more quickly. Could just be me, but I am fed up of people slating MS and their apps. IE is very quick.. stop denying it.


Are you switching to FF2 and Opera 8? FF 3.5 and Opera 10 are so much faster than IE8. Load something that actually takes some time to load (like a javascript heavy webmail portal) and you'll see the difference. Loading sites that are going to be instant on pretty much every browser isn't going to tell you anything apart from what you imagine.
(4 replies) #6 JHH on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:44
The geolocation feature placed me on Grand River Avenue in Detroit. I live in Sweden.
#6.1 bluewind_89 on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:58
Close enough..
#6.2 bradsday on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:06
Are you sure. Maybe it just looks like Sweden. Detroit does get a lot of snow during the winter months.
#6.3 FrozenEclipse on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:27
bluewind_89 said,
Close enough..


LOL!
#6.4 Dave_ek on 22 Jun 2009 - 11:31
lol, i burst out laughing! nice one!
#7 Udedenkz on 20 Jun 2009 - 15:54
Next up for Firefox is multicore processing, right?
(4 replies) #8 dancedar on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:12
Are they releasing a 64bit version anytime soon? I know an unofficial version is out-does that auto-update?-but it doesn't support flash = no youtube
#8.1 supernova_00 on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:23
dancedar said,
Are they releasing a 64bit version anytime soon? I know an unofficial version is out-does that auto-update?-but it doesn't support flash = no youtube

No. And flash does not support 64bit and that is the reason why Mozilla isn't releasing a 64 bit version.
#8.2 Julius Caro on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:37
dancedar said,
Are they releasing a 64bit version anytime soon? I know an unofficial version is out-does that auto-update?-but it doesn't support flash = no youtube


(there is flash 64 bits for linu
but if there's no wide support for x64 browsers yet (in windows), adobe wont be bothered. and those browsers who are optimizing those javascript engines, they should also think of x64. the x64 versions of firefox get worse results in that sunspider test than the 32 bit counterparts.
#8.3 GP007 on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:15
Flash should just die though. No one needs a 64bit version of something so crappy.

#8.4 excalpius on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:43
Yay! No flash means no ADS.
(6 replies) #9 Bhav on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:24
The one problem that people see with the Mozilla solution to this is that the browser does not show you if you are in private browsing mode; you'll just have to remember, although, you will get an occasional message the pops up.


But the Mozilla website says:

"When browsing in Private Browsing mode, the Firefox window's title will show (Private Browsing) during your session."
#9.1 Calum on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:39
Yep That is the case and Firefox's private browsing mode is implemented the best out of any browser, in my opinon.

1) It doesn't make it obvious you are using that mode.
2) It closes all of your non private browsing windows and then restores them again when you stop using the private browsing mode - that is fantasic. Most of the other browsers open another Window, which I find annoying as it's always in a different place and can become messy.
#9.2 Intelman on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:49
Calum said,
Yep That is the case and Firefox's private browsing mode is implemented the best out of any browser, in my opinon.

1) It doesn't make it obvious you are using that mode.
2) It closes all of your non private browsing windows and then restores them again when you stop using the private browsing mode - that is fantasic. Most of the other browsers open another Window, which I find annoying as it's always in a different place and can become messy.


I feel differently. IE8 and Chrome have it right. A simple hotkey opens up an additional in private mode. You can sign into two email accounts at the same time that way. In addition, you can have regular and in private windows.
#9.3 Bhav on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:00
I like Firefox's implementation too as I've also got in a confusing mess with new windows etc, but I understand Intelman's point. An option would be nice.
#9.4 +dead.cell on 20 Jun 2009 - 22:05
I can certainly see his point as well, but I like Firefox's better still. Just personal preference really, as I don't care too much for having an additional window open.
#9.5 zaidgs on 21 Jun 2009 - 14:50
Tabbed browsing was invented to get rid of additional windows... Having to create an additional window would be a major drawback!
#9.6 geoken on 23 Jun 2009 - 13:16
Intelman said,
I feel differently. IE8 and Chrome have it right. A simple hotkey opens up an additional in private mode. You can sign into two email accounts at the same time that way. In addition, you can have regular and in private windows.


I think it depends on the way you use them. For me, I almost never have a private session and normal session open at the same time. 99% of the time, the first thing I do after starting incognito mode in Chrome, is closing the other window. For me, it would be a much bigger time saver to simply switch the existing window to a private window and let me choose whether or not I want to open a second window on my own.
#10 +what on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:28
Yeah when you enable private browsing you get this screen: http://localhostr.com/files/12faf1/Picture+2.png and the (Private Browsing) bit stays showing. And as an improvement over Safari's implementation, when you quit private browsing it takes you back to the page you were viewing before enabling it.
(1 reply) #11 soonerproud on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:30
When I load the same web pages on Firefox 3.5, Chrome and IE8 side by side in comparison, they all seem to load pages just as fast to the eyes, including on heavy js sites like gmail. Just use the browser you prefer because their is no point in being religious about a browser.
#11.1 geoken on 23 Jun 2009 - 13:30
soonerproud said,
When I load the same web pages on Firefox 3.5, Chrome and IE8 side by side in comparison, they all seem to load pages just as fast to the eyes, including on heavy js sites like gmail. Just use the browser you prefer because their is no point in being religious about a browser.


What does being religious about a browser mean? I've never heard anyone talk about there preferred without stating valid points for their opinions.
#12 Julius Caro on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:34
I used to be a diehard firefox fanboy but I cant be bothered now. Now that it has more competence, you can see it definitely needs improving.
(4 replies) #13 dancedar on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:40
So the *only* reason for no 64 bit version is Flash not currently available on win/mac? Adobe appear to be working on it and with Windows 7 being downloaded in 64 bit more than ever it seems silly there's on ff similar work. I'm sure they have their reasons though.
#13.1 Udedenkz on 20 Jun 2009 - 16:55
dancedar said,
So the *only* reason for no 64 bit version is Flash not currently available on win/mac? Adobe appear to be working on it and with Windows 7 being downloaded in 64 bit more than ever it seems silly there's on ff similar work. I'm sure they have their reasons though.


I believe that they are morons.
#13.2 ADSfull on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:52
Adove don't develop Flash 64 bits because browsers don't use 64 bits version, and browsers don't use 64 bits because flash don't develop 64 bits flash

i think this doesn't go somewhere
#13.3 excalpius on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:45
Can't we just recompile Flash for 64 bit? Oh, riiiiiiiiiight, it's not open source. 8P

If something screamed for open source, it's something as inherently ****ty and in need of polishing as Flash.
#13.4 geoken on 23 Jun 2009 - 13:33
excalpius said,
Can't we just recompile Flash for 64 bit? Oh, riiiiiiiiiight, it's not open source. 8P

If something screamed for open source, it's something as inherently ****ty and in need of polishing as Flash.


So you think you can port a JIT Code interpreter by simply recompiling?
#14 Shadrack on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:02
I have been using 3.5 since beta and have for the most part liked it. On my windows 7 x64 box I have a problem with it not remembering what sites I'm logged into... Like there is a cookie problem. Has anyone else had this problem?
(4 replies) #15 justlooking on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:04
I'm doing everything in my power to notice a speed improvement from 3.0, but it's not there for me. Chrome is so much faster. You'd have to be a real fanboy to pretend it's not.
#15.1 artfuldodga on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:47
chrome does start up faster (on par with IE, but here is a video of firefox 3.0.5 (current 3.0.11) on way to ... *looks up top 3.5, its only gotten faster, and if you watch the video, it wasn't slow anyhow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQjsadxCpvI

and as for site speeds? varies with connection, PC, etc but it too is in no way slow firefox is the more complete browsing package, in addition to its vast addon library, i don't see how that makes one a fanboy lol its just the better browser out there atm
#15.2 ev0| on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:50
chrome is at least twice as fast as firefox as far as js performance goes. It and Safari are the fastest. But I have to say, extensions are necessary. I can't live without Adblock Plus and several others. Chrome doesn't have anything like that.
#15.3 m.keeley on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:28
Chrome have recently introduced extensions and there are ad blocker extensions out. Of course you coulkd simply use something like AdBlocker which blocks ads for all browsers withou the need of an extension.
#15.4 excalpius on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:50
AdMuncher.

And I'm still finding Chrome faster than FF3.5RC2. Maybe when all the extensions officially work again I'll consider switching back. Right now, I'm using the Nightly Tester Tools to force some to work.
(1 reply) #16 toufas on 20 Jun 2009 - 17:47
is there an option to disable that dreadful "smart" location bar?
#16.1 i_was_here on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:08
Yes. I think you can change it in Options > Privacy. Its somewhere in the preferences anyways
(3 replies) #17 superhuman on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:35
I used to likw with Firefox alot. But, it is getting lame. Apparently, firefox is more and more become a resource hog (even the most hardcore fanboy can deny this) Why??? I hope they can address this issue soon in 4.0 version.

IMO, the best and fastest browser right now is the Google Chrome 2.0. Yes, it is simple and less features like add-on. But, it uses far less resources than any other browsers, and it is extremely fast in rendering and javascript. Plug, it can handle most essentials plug-in well such as flash, windows media, silverlight, etc..

#17.1 Harbinger on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:51
superhuman said,
I used to likw with Firefox alot. But, it is getting lame. Apparently, firefox is more and more become a resource hog (even the most hardcore fanboy can deny this) Why??? I hope they can address this issue soon in 4.0 version.

IMO, the best and fastest browser right now is the Google Chrome 2.0. Yes, it is simple and less features like add-on. But, it uses far less resources than any other browsers, and it is extremely fast in rendering and javascript. Plug, it can handle most essentials plug-in well such as flash, windows media, silverlight, etc..


Resource hog? Not really. And wow, Chrome can handle flash and java? Thats a big plus indeed! Who would have thought...
#17.2 ovd on 21 Jun 2009 - 00:09
superhuman said,
I used to likw with Firefox alot. But, it is getting lame. Apparently, firefox is more and more become a resource hog (even the most hardcore fanboy can deny this) Why??? I hope they can address this issue soon in 4.0 version.

IMO, the best and fastest browser right now is the Google Chrome 2.0. Yes, it is simple and less features like add-on. But, it uses far less resources than any other browsers, and it is extremely fast in rendering and javascript. Plug, it can handle most essentials plug-in well such as flash, windows media, silverlight, etc..




wrong

Opera 100% KICKASS Browser.
#17.3 geoken on 23 Jun 2009 - 13:38
Why do so many Chrome users look at the main Chrome process, say 'wow, only 22mb of RAM', then completely forget that Chrome is a multi-process browser and every tab has it's own process.
(1 reply) #18 Don Matteo on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:49
Just today, Mozilla, famous for their Firefox browser, have released the second release candidate for the upcoming version 3.5, for public use. This build comes not long after the first release candidate, and as you can expect, packs some changes. The Washington Post has a great overview of all the next features in the updated browser.


Not saying I can do better, but this is very awkward to read.
#18.1 Litespeed on 21 Jun 2009 - 21:54
Mozilla have released the second release candidate of their Firefox 3.5 browser to the public. As expected, this build packs some changes and comes not long after the first release candidate. The Washington Post has a great overview of all the next features in the updated browser.
#19 Bhav on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:52
Wow...just tried the portable version of RC2 (so it doesn't mess up mu addons/profiles etc) and it's awesome! really like the little tweaks etc. Private Browsing mode works great too
(1 reply) #20 +warwagon on 20 Jun 2009 - 18:58
If this is RC2 then why when I go to help and about it just says Firefox 3.5. No mention of RC2
#20.1 shakey_snake on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:55
duh. It's a release candidate. If they changed the user-agent string from "3.5 RC" to "3.5" between this and official release then it wouldn't be a release candidate.
(3 replies) #21 naap51stang on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:05
I'll pass til it is released. Last time I tried anything FF beta, it screwed up all my plugin & extensions. When it is released, and my plugins have been updated, THEN I'll give it a go.
#21.1 Bhav on 20 Jun 2009 - 22:16
That's why you should give Portable Firefox a go...http://portableapps.com/
#21.2 denne on 21 Jun 2009 - 06:52
Or you can force extensions to work with Nightly Tester Tools extension.
#21.3 aarste on 21 Jun 2009 - 13:57
Or just limit beta testing to a seperate firefox profile instead of your main one.
#22 Harbinger on 20 Jun 2009 - 19:49
An easy way to understand how much faster it is is to open your gmail. That initial loading bar lasts for barely ~1 second now instead of ~5.
#23 +Somnus on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:20
I am really trying to switch away from FireFox, but the only thing keeping me with it is the Ad Block Plus extension. I really like the option of seeing the ads _I_ want to see and which ones I don't want to see.

It also removes the whitespace from the removed ads to gain more page room. If only IE had something comparable, I would switch in a heartbeat.

Everything else with FF, I can do without it seems.
#24 IntelliMoo on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:31
Very true but IE7 can have the free IE7Pro addon's ad blocking and IE8 has the InPrivate Filtering. Sure, 8's is nowhere near the level possible with AdBlockPlus but it works well enough (if not a bit unstable, though).
(5 replies) #25 cabron on 20 Jun 2009 - 20:55
still not passing the acid 3 test, I got 93/100... WTF
#25.1 LAMj on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:32
Anything geting a A in my book pass the test.
#25.2 Kuraj on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:42
cabron said,
still not passing the acid 3 test, I got 93/100... WTF

so what?
#25.3 excalpius on 20 Jun 2009 - 21:54
No one cares about the stupid Acid 3 tests. It's a NON metric.
#25.4 thealexweb on 20 Jun 2009 - 22:17
excalpius said,
No one cares about the stupid Acid 3 tests. It's a NON metric.


It is a good test for measuring future web standards, Acid 2 misses out some crucial areas.
#25.5 excalpius on 21 Jun 2009 - 11:30
Ah, fair enough. That's a good clarification.
(1 reply) #26 Satchmo Bevins on 20 Jun 2009 - 23:18
I'm sure this debate will carry on until we are into the age of quantum computing:

"FF is soooooo slow. I click on Neostring and it opens yesterday!!! But when I use IE, it opens 2 days ago. How anyone can use FF is beyond me!"

Or something like that.
#26.1 Dave_ek on 22 Jun 2009 - 11:42
lmfao, nice one! or...

"I click on teleport and it takes an extra 2seconds to initiate my network teleporter!! wtf?"
(1 reply) #27 vetLOC on 21 Jun 2009 - 09:55
Much faster than RC1 for me at the very least. But the Chrome dev builds, the new Opera 10 beta and several other browsers (QtWeb browser for one) run way faster and render way faster still.

Also, what is it with FF and sucking up RAM these days? I have 2 tabs open right now and it's sucking up nearly 200 megs. WTH?
#27.1 +Kirkburn on 21 Jun 2009 - 13:03
LOC said,
Much faster than RC1 for me at the very least. But the Chrome dev builds, the new Opera 10 beta and several other browsers (QtWeb browser for one) run way faster and render way faster still.

Also, what is it with FF and sucking up RAM these days? I have 2 tabs open right now and it's sucking up nearly 200 megs. WTH?

Fresh tabs, or do they have a history? Complex pages? Many addons?
#28 +Kirkburn on 21 Jun 2009 - 13:03
*double*
#29 Equilibrium on 21 Jun 2009 - 22:17
FF is faster than Chrome. Despite the benchmarks and all that. I've been using a lot chrome 2 and FF 3.5 since beta 4 and i like Chrome a lot. It may be the most secure browser today, but in speed, loading pages and that, FF just feels faster. It's notable and i don't nees any benchmarks for that. Not to mention the addons and RSS support...
(2 replies) #30 pakapaka on 22 Jun 2009 - 06:40
mine works like a ballistic rocket. i love FF.
#30.1 .Reo on 22 Jun 2009 - 18:28
pakapaka said,
mine works like a ballistic rocket. i love FF.

It blows up in your face when loading is complete?
#30.2 Anaron on 23 Jun 2009 - 22:32
^ Hahahaha! Now that was funny. What should one say? Analogy fail? Hehe.
(1 reply) #31 shortyg32 on 22 Jun 2009 - 12:17
FF is starting to get chunky and slow .. real shame
#31.1 Equilibrium on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:26
What?? Is faste than ever...
#32 3dfxman on 22 Jun 2009 - 15:53
Iv been using FF since the 1st version and will never go back to IE
#33 bluarash on 22 Jun 2009 - 19:28
I think it actually is better than the 3.0 release. It seems a bit more stable. A bit faster. I like it.
#34 lammmetak on 22 Jun 2009 - 22:51
for me it lost its apeal. I used it sinds 0.6 ( yes in the times it was called firebird not firefo at that moment it was : FAST direct and not filled with **** things i dont use. Now it got where netscape left: a all in 1 heavy program with a **** interface. GZ making it as worse as it is. and no ie 8 aint better. Safari won my heart because its a fast no nonsense browser
#35 +xiphi on 23 Jun 2009 - 06:02
Geolocation feature is pretty nice. Tested it on my laptop and it found exactly where I am in this small town of Cobbtown, GA.
(1 reply) #36 TC17 on 23 Jun 2009 - 14:17
Firefox really isn't worth using anymore in my opinion. EVERY update breaks all of the addons you have installed, that is my biggest gripe with Firefox. There is no excuse for that either.

Plus is still very buggy. Many times it will go into its 100% cpu usage, which is another huge gripe I have with it. Its had that problem for years now, and never gets fixed.
#36.1 Anaron on 23 Jun 2009 - 22:35
I can't say a thing about the addons because I barely use any. However, I don't think there's an issue with CPU usage. At least not with Firefox itself. Perhaps there's a problem on your end. I just opened 30 windows as fast as I could and my CPU usage wouldn't go over 75%.
#37 Anaron on 23 Jun 2009 - 22:36
When will they release the final version? I'm beginning to lose patience!
#38 Equilibrium on 23 Jun 2009 - 23:38
By the end of the month, according to plan.

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