Ah, September 1. Not a particularly eventful day... aside from a few obscure public holidays (it's Knowledge Day in Russia!) and other events of the sort, it's hard to say that there's much going on (well, there might be something else happening). However, for the technology world, there's a milestone of sorts that's been hit: Opera 10 has been released.Yeap, that's right. True to its word, Opera has gone ahead and made the public, final version of its latest release available worldwide, bringing some slick new changes which are bound to make some folk rather happy. It took a surprisingly short time for Opera to bring their browser from Release Candidate to the release version... the RC was out on August 25, and of course, it's only September now, so the pre-release version had been out on the market for less than a week. Here are some of the improvements found, which were in the Release Candidate version (but of course are in the final, too):
- Revamped user interface
- Boosted speed from the new Opera Presto 2.2 engine, giving it a 40% increase from the previous version when running web applications (such as Gmail)
- Opera Mail has seen various improvements
- Opera Turbo, designed to increase browsing speed for those on slower Internet connections
- An inline spell checker, to help catch mistakes when typing in entry forms
- Thumbnail tabs which are resizable
- Speed Dial has been given personalization features
If you're eager to get this up and running, head over to the download page on Opera's website, and your operating system will be automatically detected to give you the appropriate version. Be sure to let us know how it goes, although, if you've already had the RC2 version installed, there has only been a couple changes made for the final.
That's a serious yay, too!
The download link only gives you the Qt3 version, if you want the Qt4 version:
http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/1000/....qt4.x86_64.rpm
EDIT: Downloads seem to be going pretty well for it: http://twitter.com/opera/status/3685111194
I've asked myself that question so many times. 9 years later I still don't know why.
How you mean nobody? In europe it has a marketshare of 7.42% (see: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-mont...0808-200909-bar ) and 36% in the "russian federation" (see: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-RU-mont...0808-200909-bar )
I never used it before because it just felt somehow "clunky" before. This version feels quick and light though. I'm impressed.
quality != quantity
for me because it doesn't support Addons. Roboform and Delicious are a must for me as for integration.
quality = uptake ... which doesnt explain why so few people use it
And that's one of the big problems with Opera. I mean, look around: great features in one browser end up becoming a standard feature for most browsers. Still, IE lacks a download manager, and Opera doesn't support addons. What's wrong with allowing people to customize our browsing experience?
Nice logic there buddy... does this mean that because IE6 is the most widely used browser it's also the best?
Logic schmlogic.
if (price != 0)
quality != quantity;
How you mean nobody? In europe it has a marketshare of 7.42% (see: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-mont...0808-200909-bar ) and 36% in the "russian federation" (see: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-RU-mont...0808-200909-bar )
And Firefox has 100% market share on Antarctica: http://www.favbrowser.com/firefox-reaches-...-in-antarctica/
The point being that it's not that important in the grand scheme of things what a local marketshare is for an international product.
How you mean nobody? In europe it has a marketshare of 7.42% (see: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-eu-mont...0808-200909-bar ) and 36% in the "russian federation" (see: http://gs.statcounter.com/#browser-RU-mont...0808-200909-bar )
And Firefox has 100% market share on Antarctica: http://www.favbrowser.com/firefox-reaches-...-in-antarctica/
Antarctica is just few people, while Eastern Europe is hundred millions. It's very different. EE is a true large attractive market, while Antarctica is just fun stats.
The point being that it's not that important in the grand scheme of things what a local marketshare is for an international product.
It's on first place not only in Russia, but in entire CIS. So it's quite important, because cover nearly half of Europe. Internet penetration isn't that high in those countries yet, so with rising of internet popularity Opera will significantly increase its popularity in global share.
Sorry, but that's not completly true. Taken from: http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/opera-10-goes-final
But opera is still my favorite browser and it keeps getting better with each release...
But opera is still my favorite browser and it keeps getting better with each release...
Damn, I had a few people tell me that it was the exact same; I'll fix up the article, thanks!
This makes the upgrade from RC worth while.
Gross. D:
http://mirrors.dedipower.com/opera/
http://mirror.globalcore.net/opera/
Surprisingly, older browsers like IE6 and 7 got the pages rendered correctly all the time...even though IE6 and 7 don't get high score in Acid test...
It just gonna show how overrated Acid3 test is... and another reason why Opera will never become a popular browser...
< ! - - [if lte IE 6]
< ! - - [if IE 7]......
Which is why it renders 'correctly' so to say. I'm not sure about opera vs ff and chromes render engine but I do know about IE, and please don't even try to raise IE above opera or any other browser =)
70% of the total internet users can't be wrong.. =)
70% of the total internet users can't be wrong.. =)
IE6 is still in widest use, so by your logic that means that IE6 is the best browser, right?
About 80% of the computer buying public are total n00bs, they just use whatever comes with their computers, and seeing as XP is still on about 75% of all computers, and it uses IE6 by default, I think that question answers itself.
As for Facebook, blame their coders for that by plugging too much IE specific code into the site.
That suggests a site problem rather than the browser's fault.
70% of the total internet users can't be wrong.. =)
This is because windows comes with IE, the worst browser ever dreamed off.
I am going to say it once, and say it again, either through there own hate of proper web standards, or there own incompetence, Microsoft can't make a decent browser, and should not be allowed to anymore. The internet is too important to allow a company like Microsoft exerting any control over it. Microsoft's perfect internet would be AOL, and nobody using it.
< ! - - [if lte IE 6]
< ! - - [if IE 7]......
Which is why it renders 'correctly' so to say. I'm not sure about opera vs ff and chromes render engine but I do know about IE, and please don't even try to raise IE above opera or any other browser =)
Hey! Trident still cool!
Also see this hilarious vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYEUFwJXVvw
Last edited by daddy_spank on 01 Sep 2009 - 10:31
I've been an avid fan of Opera for a few years now. So what if they have there boxing gloves on with MS. At least there browser just works !
Last edited by rm20010 on 02 Sep 2009 - 02:09
I've been an avid fan of Opera for a few years now. So what if they have there boxing gloves on with MS. At least there browser just works !
IE is the slowest browser ever. And I wouldn't trust it with any of my banking information, what with all the exploits out there.
I used to love Opera in the old days, when I was on dialup, because you could switch off all images on a page with one click. Then, if you need images, like certain sites that have must see images, you just click a button and it will download them for you.
Now, this sort of feature isn't that important anymore, but it is just one of the many ways Opera tried to make there browser so friendly. I will have to give it another go. Can't wait until I can get rid of IE, when the market share falls enough (1.2% this month), so I wont need to do any testing with it. It has improved, but I will never forgive MS for ie6.
Maybe it's a holiday, but it's not a day off. It's quite the opposite in fact (classes start in schools/universities) =)
ive seen that being requested for YEARS and they simply refuse to do it, which leads me to believe they cant due to some limitation
Limitation? ... really.
You have the option to manage your bookmarks easily now. I don't see the need to edit via the list. If you want to manage your bookmarks, then do so.
In any case, like IE's Favourites center, Opera uses a Bookmarks panel that functions in the same way.
You have the option to manage your bookmarks easily now. I don't see the need to edit via the list. If you want to manage your bookmarks, then do so.
Well, to me right clicking a menu, dragging & dropping within the menu is much more convenient than opening a separate window. IE6 used to this just fine including Explorer but MS blew it with IE7 and IE8. Now every time we right click a menu to perform an action such as 'Delete', the menu closes and you have to click it again. This sucks! Why would MS take away the IE6-based way of managing the Favorites?
FF on the other hand has almost cought up with the way IE6 was managing the Favorites. It still needs work though....
http://marketshare.hitslink.com/browser-ma...re.aspx?qprid=0
I do like it as a browser. However I have got used to FF and its add-ons which I find extremely useful. If it was a matter of choosing a "bare bones" browser then Opera would be a worthy consideration. Then again so would Chrome.
http://snapshot.opera.com/windows/Opera_1010_1729_in.exe
version 1010 build 1729.
Opera servers seems to be overloaded with requests....
Opera servers seems to be overloaded with requests....
or try their ftp server .. ftp://ftp.opera.com/pub/opera/win/1000/
I am the same, but I will give this Opera a look. They have done some great stuff in the past, and I admire any company with the balls to stand up to Microsoft.
Whatever works for you.
I was thinking that exact same thing too.
Do you see Bing by default in Firefox (3.5.2)?. Because I sure don't.
Edit: Installed Safari, they sure have a big choice between Yahoo and Google too!
Last edited by Nebuchadnezzar on 02 Sep 2009 - 01:25
Hardly makes Opera look that guilty to be honest.
Yeah, so when Microsoft start shipping Opera with Windows, then you can call out Opera. Or do you think Opera should go out of its way to help a company that has been trying to destroy it? You somehow think that makes sense? (snipped)
Last edited by rm20010 on 03 Sep 2009 - 04:08
(snipped) It's about Opera being a hypocrite. there's no way around that. And MS trying to destroy Opera? Come on. Yeah I'm sure MS is really worried about that
Last edited by rm20010 on 03 Sep 2009 - 03:54
It is not.
This is about your amazing ignorance.
Opera is not a convicted monopolist. Microsoft is.
Opera is a minority browser. Their search engine choice does not affect the market in a big way. Microsoft's bundling of a browser does affect the market in a big way.
Opera does not have a search engine. It uses services from other companies to provide that. Microsoft owns both Windows and IE.
Even a retarded child would be able to tell the difference. Seriously.
Yeah, only since about 5 years ago, when they invented tabs. I remember this from the old days.
- proxy switcher: this is an absolute requirement for corporate use (firefox has plugins for this)
- better ad blocker (ad block plus for firefox is much more superior to the ad blocker in opera)
- easier properties: the properties dialogs are cluttered with lots of stuff. For a browser, this should be much simpler (firefox is as bad as opera here)
I agree with some the sentiments here, Opera really shot themselves in the foot for charging for their browser for so long. Shouldn't charge for a program that has features on par with other programs you can get for free...
Huh?
And what does Opera charging 4 years ago have to do with Opera 10?
Apart from the fact that it's the 70th annivesary of the German invasion of Poland which sparked World War II.
Apart from the fact that it's the 70th annivesary of the German invasion of Poland which sparked World War II.
*yawn* just like Uzbekistan declaring independence from the Soviet Union
Ur hand's don't work, Opera works just fine with gmail
maybe for you. it ain't working for me, and it would be nice if someone could help me figure out why. i'm getting a URL too long error everytime i try to load it.
google the issue u have can't say anything else cause never had any problems with gmail. Hotmail used to not work at all but microsoft finally fixed it
It's only surprising if you know nothing about software development. The whole concept of a release candidate is that it's a build that they are proposing to release as final. It's released as a candidate to give folks one last chance to check it over before it hits final, to check for any glaring omissions and showstopper bugs. Obvious no major issues were found in the RC so they were able to chuck out the Final build quickly.
Yes and no. You're definition of RC is correct, but only waiting a week (or less in this case) for public response to the build is generally not the preferred release management strategy. There was almost certainly a time-to-market priority decision made for this release on the part of the company. Not usually the best idea, but sometimes it works well.
I completely disagree.
The RC was rock solid. A week is more than enough to figure out if there are any important bugs in there. Remember, they have millions of people testing their betas and RCs.
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