Some UK gamers get GTA V early; Rockstar warns not to install Xbox 360 "Play" disc

Tuesday is the planned release date for Grand Theft Auto V, the long awaited latest entry in the open world crime action series from developer Rockstar Games. However, at least some UK gamers managed to be lucky enough to get their legitimate copies of GTA V early, thanks to a shipping mistake from Amazon.

Some people who pre-ordered the game reported getting their copies as early as Saturday from Amazon UK. So far, this seems to be the only major retailer who has broken the street date for GTA V. Gamesindustry International quotes a statement from Rockstar Games as saying, "We are in the process of investigating early 'sales' to determine how and why that is occurring."

Not all UK gamers were lucky enough to get GTA V early ...

Demand for the game is so high that, according to The Independent, Amazon UK has already sold out of the Xbox 360 version of GTA V. The retailer says that copies "will be shipped as soon as we receive inventory.” As we reported this weekend, Microsoft has already banned at least one Xbox 360 console gamer from posting videos of GTA V ahead of its official release.

Speaking of the Xbox 360 version, it will come on two DVD discs, due to the game's huge file size. One is the required "install" disc and the other is the "play" disc. Some gamers might be tempted to install the content of both discs on their Xbox 360 hard drive. However, Eurogamer reports, that, according to Rockstar Support, that would be a mistake and they recommend that gamers do not install the "play" disc content on the Xbox 360.

The reason? Apparently installing both discs can cause issues with streaming texture data on GTV 5, which can result in annoying "pop-ins" of game objects and textures. So remember, just install the content on the "install" disc; the "play" disc is just for playing the game.

Source: Gamesindustry International | Image via Rockstar Games

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My nephew got it this morning from the local Tesco's .. Chatham, Kent branch I'm assuming .. just £38 too which he thought was a good deal!

Not anymore i guess, Us Kiwis have the game released today, i took the day of work went to mid night release and have no issues with both disks installed

As trivial as the whole multiple disk / blu ray thing is...
everyone needs to move into the 21st century and get rid of optical media altogether!

I'll be holding out (and watching my friends play) till it drops on PC.

epic stuff tho, the world is buzzing for this!

jandosaurus Dex said,
As trivial as the whole multiple disk / blu ray thing is...
everyone needs to move into the 21st century and get rid of optical media altogether!

I'll be holding out (and watching my friends play) till it drops on PC.

epic stuff tho, the world is buzzing for this!

Yeah, lets get rid of optical media and install all of the BO2 files on HDD and enjoy all of the 1-2hours crashes of PS3 all the f****** time.

jandosaurus Dex said,
As trivial as the whole multiple disk / blu ray thing is...
everyone needs to move into the 21st century and get rid of optical media altogether!

I'll be holding out (and watching my friends play) till it drops on PC.

epic stuff tho, the world is buzzing for this!

I guess I am getting old but I prefer physical media. Of course I want the option to install locally so I don't *need* the media to play but I still don't have enough comfort with needing a constant internet connection to play games yet. I guess that is because I have a crappy bandwidth cap on my connection and only one choice of ISP

alwaysonacoffebreak said,
Yeah, lets get rid of optical media and install all of the BO2 files on HDD and enjoy all of the 1-2hours crashes of PS3 all the f****** time.

Yeah, because that's the obvious alternative. Every PC game in existences crashes every 1-2 hours. *rolleyes*

I've installed the second disc as you would a normal 360 game and have not noticed any issues with doing so, that is after several hours of game play.

Ad Man Gamer said,
That's nice. Now be gone with you.

What's your problem? the post title is "Some UK gamers get GTA V early; Rockstar warns not to install Xbox 360 "Play" disc"

I'm sharing my experience as per the article title, you have nothing useful to contribute so why bother?

InsaneNutter said,
I've installed the second disc as you would a normal 360 game and have not noticed any issues with doing so, that is after several hours of game play.

So, is the game all it's hyped to be so far?

I've had PC games arrive early and after installing it needs to talk to a registration server that isn't switched on until launch day. Can they not do something similar on XBox 360?
It is frustrating for me but it solves the publisher's problems with early shipping.

Yep. Have had this happen before.

It has caused the death of 'midnight release partys'. I went to one years ago to get a game (forget witch) at midnight. Got home to find out the activation servers were not going to be switched on till midnight... PACIFIC TIME. I live in eastern.

mog0 said,
I've had PC games arrive early and after installing it needs to talk to a registration server that isn't switched on until launch day. Can they not do something similar on XBox 360?

No, because Xbox 360 is not an internet-required console. People are able to purchase and play games without ever connecting online if they choose to.

It also has nothing to do with this article, which is about how installing the Play disc to the 360 hard drive can cause performance issues with texture loading.

Or maybe MS should have integrated HD-DVD into the 360 instead of the useless addon. It's pretty likely that nobody would now even remember what a Blu-ray is…

LarvaInject said,
Or you could get the PS3 version and not have to swap discs. #BluRay4TheWin


-LarvaInject

Helps to know what you're talking about if you're going to troll(which is against the rules btw).

so explain to me, with two discs, one that says "install" and another that says" play. the install disc you install and put away. the play disc you use to... play. where does the disc swapping come in ?

but yeah, Blu ray, install a disk or have slow texture load pop in from slow BD discs ;p

Would have been nice, if it solved the issue on the PS3. But when you insert the GTA V disc into the PS3, it installs it automatically. And not surprisingly, PS3 suffers from pop ups even with lower resolution textures.

MFH said,
Or maybe MS should have integrated HD-DVD into the 360 instead of the useless addon. It's pretty likely that nobody would now even remember what a Blu-ray is…

Yeah because its not like even the 50GB Blu-ray spec is being pushed to its boundaries in order to adequately handle 2 hours of HD video content and lossless audio. I shutter to think how things would be if the industry had instead gone with the pathetic 30GB HD-DVD disc which oh by the way had no mandatory lossless audio requirement.

More compressed video and lossless audio scrapped in favor of crappy 640 kbps Dolby Digital to make up for it! Yay!

I'm sure I'll be attacked by people who know absolutely nothing about home theater technology but can't stand any commentary that's remotely negative towards Microsoft.

I agree lossless audio is best, but DD @640kbps is hardly "crappy".

HD DVD hit their capacity limits in the first year. Thank the maker we aren't stuck with that limited format.

Microsoft couldn't have added it anyway, it would have rendered all pre-existing XBOX 360s at the time obsolete. Sony may have lost ground waiting a year extra to launch, but they got it right making Blu-ray mandatory from the start.

PeterTHX said,
I agree lossless audio is best, but DD @640kbps is hardly "crappy".

HD DVD hit their capacity limits in the first year. Thank the maker we aren't stuck with that limited format.

Microsoft couldn't have added it anyway, it would have rendered all pre-existing XBOX 360s at the time obsolete. Sony may have lost ground waiting a year extra to launch, but they got it right making Blu-ray mandatory from the start.

What you on about? HD-DVD wasn't limited to one size, higher capacity discs were in development and so were Blu-ray discs as well.

The spec at launch was for 30GB dual layer HD-DVDs and 50GB dual layer Blu-rays.

Additional layers were possible for both but would have required a new spec and would not have been readable in any existing hardware. They're doing this with Blu-ray now with a new 100GB spec in the works, however it will require new hardware to read thus making it a de facto new format.

MFH said,
Or maybe MS should have integrated HD-DVD into the 360 instead of the useless addon. It's pretty likely that nobody would now even remember what a Blu-ray is…

The problem being the 360 came out ~4 months before HD-DVD which kind of makes that impossible

InTheSwiss said,

The problem being the 360 came out ~4 months before HD-DVD which kind of makes that impossible


True, but considering that the 360 was obviously rushed to market (RROD anyone?) it may have been better in the long run…

PeterTHX said,

Microsoft couldn't have added it anyway, it would have rendered all pre-existing XBOX 360s at the time obsolete.

pre-existing 360s were dying from RRODs anyways, they could just give you a free upgrade after you got the RROD and only a few unlucky guys would been left with a working 360 *and* a standard DVD drive (and remember that before they started honoring warranty for RRODs people simply went and bought a second 360, one that could already have the HD-DVD unit built-in).

Pupik said,
Would have been nice, if it solved the issue on the PS3. But when you insert the GTA V disc into the PS3, it installs it automatically. And not surprisingly, PS3 suffers from pop ups even with lower resolution textures.

Sounds like your hard disk is dying, better take this as a warning sign and back it up if you have anything important. The textures might appear low res if your HDD is dying as it can't cache the full file, this happens when streaming compressed textures (look at unreal engine or id tech 5). If you're really worried about pop-in, get an SSD, would probably work great.

I got a text from the missus earlier saying i had a package from Amazon waiting for me... yessssssss!

As for installing the 'Play' disc. BF3 suffered from the same issue.

ILikeTobacco said,
Did they ever patch that issue for BF3? Always found that annoying.

Apparently it is some kind of caching issue with the 360 that can't really be fixed in software. I have never seen any real technical discussion about it but if it effects a number of games it seems that it being a hardware issue is true as I am sure Rockstar would have fixed it if it were possible. GTA5 is probably the most polished game I have ever played.

As I said in the thread, it doesn't appear to be just Amazon.co.uk that have done this. Our intern walked in to the office after lunch with a Fnac bag. Inside? A copy of GTA5 for the 360.

I still don't understand why Rockstar are so concerned about this. Ok, they could contact Amazon (and other retailers that are selling it) and say, "not cool, guys" but at the end of the day it's only been a few hours, and Rockstar are still getting their money for each copy. Someone offered the thought about such stores creating an unfair advantage over stores that are respecting Rockstar's wishes, but with a game like GTA5 I'm pretty sure everyone will be a winner.

Embargoes aren't just gentlemans agreements. Breaking a street embargo costs companies serious money.

Embargo breaking leads to all kinds of issues with sales and thoroughly disadvantages any company which doesn't break embargo.

If a company broke embargo on a first party title for the company I represented, they'd an enormous amount of advertising revenue and the other companies would all break embargo right after to try and stay on even footings.

With postal these things are usually sent days before to meet the release dates announced. This isn't the first time with GTA5 and happened a lot of times before.

If amazon sent it all today with the hope it all gets delivered tomorrow, amazon will have a bucket load of angry customers, which in the end might hurt them more financially then giving Rockstar the finger like they do now.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Did Rockstar really not test installing both discs?

It's a common problem with these part install, part play games. Not only GTA5.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Did Rockstar really not test installing both discs?

I'm sure they did this intentionally. Streaming from two devices is faster than streaming from one.