Sony kicks back with 4.1 Million PlayStation Move shipments

Sony announced today that they have shipped 4.1 million PlayStation Move units in just the two months since launch. The figure accounts for all worldwide shipments of the device, which launched in September across North America, Europe and Asia. Meanwhile the PlayStation Move has only been on sale in Japan for little under a month, but has already seen a steady sales growth since the launch.

The press release from Sony was clearly a rebuttal to the Microsoft announcement yesterday, regarding the 2.5 million sales of Kinect for Xbox 360, which launched in November.

The two companies have been battling it out over the past year to see which device will land in consumer’s homes. Both companies are pushing their new hardware vigorously, and it can only be good news for consumers in the long run.

Microsoft does seem to have the most steam behind their hardware though, not only in early sales but also in the amount of software available for Kinect, both before and after launch. New titles have been released each week for Kinect, while the PlayStation Move has struggled to find new games for users to purchase. Most of the titles released since launch have been patched updates or small add-ons, such as those seen in the Sly Cooper remake, while major titles such as LittleBigPlanet 2 saw delays to their release.

Both the PlayStation Move and Kinect for Xbox 360 devices are available in stores now.

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jasonon said,
Why don't they announce their sales?

Because it is hard to estimate and mostly it is done in private.

For example, its barely easy to a big company to track online sales (it can take days to estimate the amount of online sales) but, for a end-user sale, it can take months to the final estimate and it is used for the annual report.

So, for example, when a company Like Apple give a realtime number of sales, it is usually a really gross estimate, a lousy projection or simply "magic numbers".

Sony is just trying to use the peer pressure approach since their software library is nothing but a pale shadow next too the wii, their hardware is twice the price and its nearing the "gift giving season". Kinect is has the advantage of being unique, while the move is just a slightly better execution of an existing product.

I think we'd have a lot of raised eyebrows if we were given the # SOLD for the bundle consoles, the stand alone starter kits and the individual components. Technically, if they assume that everyone who bought a single remote already had a camera, then they could count it as one "move unit". Microsoft will have a lot harder time fudging the numbers as either you buy ONE console bundle or ONE add-on kit.

sexypeperodri said,
People take these numbers too seriously. Both the Move and the Kinect suck.

in my opinion move is the nintendo wii style and then Kinect is revolutionizing both of those into a controlerless environment...right now kinect shows potential and still has lots to improve on, but for now its still a great peice of hardware/software and i cant wait to see this put into televisions, computers, and much more.

sexypeperodri said,
People take these numbers too seriously. Both the Move and the Kinect suck.

Move yes, but have you seen what has been done with Kinect?
Can you do anything that Kinect and Move do? If Kinect can and/or Move can and you cant maybe you are the one that.......

Well I got both Move and Kinect.

I tried very few of the sports games with Move, the archery just drove me insane as it kept losing track of the controller and was acting all funny while trying to track it.

Lastly I tried playing Time Crisis with move, and I love time crisis in arcades. 4 minutes, lots and lots of frustration and I turned off my ps3.

Obviously Kinect is not trying to be a hardcore gamer accessory, so Time Crisis kinda games are out of question, but on the other hand, I found that the games on Kinect are incredibly fun, so it does its job perfectly and doesn't fail while trying.

Yes I am one of those 4 million buyers, and I am trying to find someone to sell it to.

Lets face it, the Move has no chance against the Kinect unless no one makes games for the kinect but I'm quite sure there will be plenty of games coming out for it.

Why is Sony "kicking back" for? Did MS say something when they announced they sold 2.5mil towards Sony? Or is Sony just being sensitive.

techbeck said,
Why is Sony "kicking back" for? Did MS say something when they announced they sold 2.5mil towards Sony? Or is Sony just being sensitive.

Creative license...maybe? You do know MS announced Kinect figures, then Sony replied with Move figures. No, you can't say Sony is sensitive nor can you say they literally kicked back. But it was an announcement made to counter MS. There is nothing weird of abnormal or deserved to be mocked at from anyone, as you were implying.

Eddo89 said,

Creative license...maybe? You do know MS announced Kinect figures, then Sony replied with Move figures. No, you can't say Sony is sensitive nor can you say they literally kicked back. But it was an announcement made to counter MS. There is nothing weird of abnormal or deserved to be mocked at from anyone, as you were implying.

I understand..but normally companies only kick back when another company says something negative towards another. Like when Apple bashed Android on one of their press conferences about Google screwing sales numbers. So google hit back at Apple. Just didnt see the same kinda thing happen here is all.

Shame Kinect games are rubbish. I'd only buy kinect to hack it and use it for other stuff. Thats the real innovation of Kinect

Richio said,
Shame Kinect games are rubbish. I'd only buy kinect to hack it and use it for other stuff. Thats the real innovation of Kinect

Some, not all

Richio said,
Shame Kinect games are rubbish. I'd only buy kinect to hack it and use it for other stuff. Thats the real innovation of Kinect

A, its only just came out. and B, GOW 3 is rumored to be kinect capable.

techbeck said,

A, its only just came out. and B, GOW 3 is rumored to be kinect capable.

We really have to stop using GOW as an acronym. I was thought are you smoking when I was thinking of God of War when you actually mean Gears of War.....

Richio said,
Shame Kinect games are rubbish. I'd only buy kinect to hack it and use it for other stuff. Thats the real innovation of Kinect
They really need some decent games, I do agree.

jasonon said,
They really need some decent games, I do agree.

Sports and Adventures are good games. Great fun when you've got friends over. Not as much fun on your own though, but thats's not really the point of Kinect anyway, is it.

Btw, it was 4.1 million units SHIPPED not sold

Update: Our brothers at Joystiq have reached out to Sony and confirmed that these numbers represent shipped units, not consumer sales.

Update 2: We've also confirmed with Sony that the sales numbers are in reference to retailers, not consumers, and learned that more than 75 percent of the sales in the US are bundles -- meaning new console sales or software groupings.

http://www.engadget.com/2010/1...e-controllers-to-retailers/

Why the hell if most people own a Wii, do they want a move. It's nothing different, just more expensive with a squeezy ball of colour. Kinect is way better.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Why the hell if most people own a Wii, do they want a move. It's nothing different, just more expensive with a squeezy ball of colour. Kinect is way better.

Different type of games. Just saying.

Exactly...the games aren't the same. It's also the same reason people would own more than one console to begin with.

That and the statement "if most people own a Wii" may not be accurate either.

TechDudeGeorge said,
Why the hell if most people own a Wii, do they want a move. It's nothing different, just more expensive with a squeezy ball of colour. Kinect is way better.

...nice contribution there.


Move is not the same as the Wii, it's better than the Wii. It actually tracks you in real-time, it's much more accurate than Wii MotionPlus, and the games are much better.

And how is Kinect better, when it's noticeably laggy? The old PS2 EyeToy that it's stolen from/based on has no lag, and it does essentially the same as Kinect; just that Kinect does it in 3D, so that gives them the right to charge through the nose for it.

Miuku said,
And the numbers for Kinetic were released by.. Microsoft.

Your point was what again?

And Apple do the same.

I think it's safe to same that there are 1.5 move units per person (every other person buying two). However it is very likely that many purchases bought 2-3 units, and I'm sure some people bought 4.

I still think the Kinect has more potential/public interest, but at least Sony made it clear (in their fine print) that they are only referring to actual Move wands sales, not the navigation controller or the eye toy.

The number does not include sales of stand-alone PlayStation®Eye camera or stand-alone PlayStation®Move navigation controller.

CGar said,
The number does not include sales of stand-alone PlayStation®Eye camera or stand-alone PlayStation®Move navigation controller.

It does include sales of games with second controllers though, and if you're buying a second game... just saying,.

I haven't bought Move for lack of interesting Games. Can't say I'd get Kinect for the games either, though the PC hacking crowd has been doing some cool things.

PhillAholic said,
I haven't bought Move for lack of interesting Games. Can't say I'd get Kinect for the games either, though the PC hacking crowd has been doing some cool things.

I still play a round of Kinect Sports most days. The rest...I haven't seen any reason to get my hopes up yet.

PhillAholic said,
I haven't bought Move for lack of interesting Games. Can't say I'd get Kinect for the games either, though the PC hacking crowd has been doing some cool things.

I made the mistake of buying it on launch day. I played with it for a few weeks and then it just died off. I haven't touched it in over a month now and everytime I go into the EB Games, I ask if there's anything new and there never is. All the games suck and nothing good coming out for it. Eventually it's just gonna die because of the lack of development where the Kinect is just taking off and is only gonna get huge.

Byron_Hinson said,

Got two myself

I've got two as well. I bought one at first for Sports Champions, then I got a second one with The Fight. Absolutely brilliant. Much better than the Wii ever was when I owned it.

I must say that I agree that there is more steam behind Kinect. All the games seem a lot more interesting and engaging. I don't think that Sony know how to market Move without it seeming like a Wii lookalike.

Personally though, I haven't seen anyone on my Facebook / Twitter even bat an eyelid at Move.

dave164 said,
I must say that I agree that there is more steam behind Kinect. All the games seem a lot more interesting and engaging. I don't think that Sony know how to market Move without it seeming like a Wii lookalike.

On games alone, I'd go with Move. While the Move technology is similar to the Wii, I think the release games for the Kinect look more similar to the Wii. Just looking at the Wii adverts makes it look childish to me. I want to be treated like a grown up. Unfortunately that doesn't seem to be where the money is these days.

4.5 million units, meaning every house that bought a extra adapter or second, or thrid, or fourth controller counts as several sales... it'd be like judging the wii's success because of how well Wii Play sold. valuable information, to be sure,but not a measuring stick.

AgentGray said,
4.5 million units, meaning every house that bought a extra adapter or second, or thrid, or fourth controller counts as several sales... it'd be like judging the wii's success because of how well Wii Play sold. valuable information, to be sure,but not a measuring stick.

Don't let them fool you. That 4 millions were just shipped to retailers, not consumers. So the real sales are much smaller.

I have both Move and Kinect so I can hardly be accused of being any kind of fanboy. However, I've had to buy two Move controllers for two player games so Sony will see that as two sales when in fact I'm just one owner. Sony have no real way of reliably measuring how many Move controllers are sold to unique users so in my opinion their sales figures are almost worthless.

Phemo said,
I have both Move and Kinect so I can hardly be accused of being any kind of fanboy. However, I've had to buy two Move controllers for two player games so Sony will see that as two sales when in fact I'm just one owner. Sony have no real way of reliably measuring how many Move controllers are sold to unique users so in my opinion their sales figures are almost worthless.

Wow, that's a REALLY good point. And Microsoft's sales figures were 2.5 million in 25 days, so that isn't really comparable to Sony's 4.1 million in 2 months or so... I hate when companies release figures that are difficult to compare. lol

Phemo said,
I have both Move and Kinect so I can hardly be accused of being any kind of fanboy. However, I've had to buy two Move controllers for two player games so Sony will see that as two sales when in fact I'm just one owner. Sony have no real way of reliably measuring how many Move controllers are sold to unique users so in my opinion their sales figures are almost worthless.

Would you use this logic as well when comparing sales of Xbox 360 vs PS3? Would be interesting to see how many people actually bought more than one 360 or PS3 due to RROD or YLOD.

M_Lyons10 said,

Wow, that's a REALLY good point. And Microsoft's sales figures were 2.5 million in 25 days, so that isn't really comparable to Sony's 4.1 million in 2 months or so... I hate when companies release figures that are difficult to compare. lol

let's not forget that the 4.1 milions from sony is also about shipments to retailers where as the microsoft numbers are about end customers. There could be 4.1 milllions on the retail shelves for all we know.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/g...ing-4-1-million-move-units/
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1137285p1.html

jandler said,

let's not forget that the 4.1 milions from sony is also about shipments to retailers where as the microsoft numbers are about end customers. There could be 4.1 milllions on the retail shelves for all we know.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/g...ing-4-1-million-move-units/
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/113/1137285p1.html

Exactly, there is a massive difference between shipped and bought - just imagine how many stores worldwide are stocking this and how many each one will have in stock! then bear in mind a lot (I'd say most) will be buying 2 for 2 player gaming, and you have weak sales!