Spec shootout: Nokia Lumia 800 vs. Lumia 710 vs. HTC Radar vs. Omnia W

Nokia today has released two, brand new Windows Phones: the Lumia 800 and Lumia 710, both of which target different markets. However, Nokia will be entering a market with several other Windows Phones already trying to compete for a spot in your pocket. All the phones in our comparison are of a similar class, and as such high-end phones such as the Focus S and HTC Titan have been omitted.

Top specs of each are highlighted in bold.

  Nokia Lumia 800 Nokia Lumia 710 HTC Radar Samsung Omnia W
Network Connectivity

HSPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
GSM 850 /900 / 1800 / 1900

HSPA 900 / 1900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

HSPA 900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

HSPA 900 / 2100
GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900

Display

3.7-inch 480 x 800 ClearBlack AMOLED

3.7-inch 480 x 800 ClearBlack LCD

3.8-inch 480 x 800 S-LCD

3.7-inch 480 x 800 Super AMOLED

Processor

Qualcomm MSM8255T chipset
1.4 GHz single-core CPU

Qualcomm MSM8255T chipset
1.4 GHz single-core CPU

Qualcomm MSM8255 chipset
1 GHz single-core CPU

Qualcomm MSM8255T chipset
1.4 GHz single-core CPU

Graphics

Adreno 205
"3D Graphics Hardware Accelerator"

Adreno 205
"3D Graphics Hardware Accelerator"

Adreno 205

Adreno 205

RAM

512 MB

512 MB

512 MB

512 MB

Storage

16 GB internal storage

8 GB internal storage

8 GB internal storage

8 GB internal storage

Connectivity

WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 with A2DP
A-GPS
FM Radio

WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 with A2DP
A-GPS
FM Radio

WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 with A2DP
A-GPS
FM Radio

WiFi 802.11 b/g/n
Bluetooth 2.1 with A2DP
A-GPS
FM Radio

Camera

8 MP rear camera with Carl Zeiss lens and flash
720p video recording (rear)

5 MP rear camera with autofocus and LED flash
720p video recording (rear)

5 MP rear camera with autofocus and LED flash
720p video recording (rear)

5 MP rear camera with autofocus and LED flash
720p video recording (rear)

Sensors

Accelerometer
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Light sensor
Proximity sensor

Accelerometer
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Light sensor
Proximity sensor

Accelerometer
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Light sensor
Proximity sensor

Accelerometer
Magnetometer
Gyroscope
Light sensor
Proximity sensor

Battery

Li-ion 1,450 mAh

Li-ion 1,300 mAh

Li-ion 1,520 mAh

Li-ion 1,500 mAh

Launch OS

Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango"

Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango"

Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango"

Windows Phone 7.5 "Mango"

Launch Date

November 2011

November 2011

October 2011

November 2011

Size & Weight

12.1mm thin
142 g

12.5 mm thin
125.5 g

10.9mm thin
137 g

10.9mm thin
115.3 g

Price

420 EUR (US$585)

270 EUR (US$375)

320 EUR (US$450)

345 EUR (US$480)

Looking at the specs and then comparing it to the price, it would indicate that the Lumia 800 does demand quite a price hike over the other offerings for somewhat similar specs. It has a better camera and more storage than the other offerings, but is it really worth the extra €100?

The Lumia 710 on the other hand is a fantastic deal. It has comparable specs to the Samsung Omnia W, but manages to cut €75 off the price. The cheaper HTC Radar is €50 more expensive and the Lumia 710 has a better processor, making Nokia's offering a much better deal.

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I gotta say the Lumnia 800 is the best looking WP so far. However, I'll stick with my Focus until Nokia releases their second generation and Windows 8 comes out.

i am really impressed with the Lumia 800s design. Its the future of Nokia. It it was in my hands.. Ill develop device after device with pretty much the same design and make it like a signature nokia design!!!!..

for all their highend phones!! They got a futuristic winning design on their hands!!
about the internals.. I am not so impressed. Neither surprised as i knew what to expect. My little complaint is that Microsoft should allow faster hardwares.. Even if the OS doesnt require it yet. So in the future.. The devices will have more life when WP8 comes out. But thats how business works. They will want us to purchase the new devices. The 16gb internal space is ........ on the low side. Coming from Nokia. But nevermind. I hope they can really push this set around the world!!.. id buy this phone in a flash! but im really happy with my Omnia 7 right now. (btw i am wondering how the smaller battery is gettin more time than my phone with a 1500mAh one) any idea?

So I might be a little late to the show here but all the new Windows "Mango" Phones are single core 480x800 devices? Isn't that like last years hardware with next years software? I hope pricing for these things is sub-$200 in the U.S. with a contract because while the software looks great, the software can be updated after you buy it, the hardware can't.

Asmodai said,
So I might be a little late to the show here but all the new Windows "Mango" Phones are single core 480x800 devices? Isn't that like last years hardware with next years software? I hope pricing for these things is sub-$200 in the U.S. with a contract because while the software looks great, the software can be updated after you buy it, the hardware can't.

Would have preferred to have had a graphic hike rather than dual-core, especially for a device and os really pushing Xbox Live.

rom said,
WP7 phones don't need dual cores. It's Android who needs them. They only eat up battery quicker anyway.

What about the iPhone? I suppose the iPhone needs it too while the WP7 doesn't? Maybe that's true but it doesn't look particularly good when BOTH of your major competitors (that are currently destroying you in market share) have something and you don't. And why does Android need it and WP7 not, my guess is more efficient software. If that's the case then gains may be made via software update after purchase but you don't get a dual core update after purchase. And with respect to battery I thought CPUs today were smart enough to clock themselves down and/or disable cores when not in use. Sure if your pushing both cores you're going to use more power.

Byron_Hinson said,

Would have preferred to have had a graphic hike rather than dual-core, especially for a device and os really pushing Xbox Live.

Yeah the screen is of concern to me as well. I was hoping to go to a Mango phone from my Droid2 when my contract was up but I'm not sure I can bring myself to drop down $200+ for a phone with pretty much the same specs as I already have. The screen specifically would technically be a downgrade as the Droid 2 is 853x480. Sure that's not a huge difference but when you're expecting an UPGRADE and you get a step to the side it's disappointing. Apple is on it's second round of 960x640 devices and the newer Android devices seem to be going with qHD at 960x540 so 800x480 is beginning to look a bit dated. Running at a lower res on the same or similar graphics hardware could also account for some of the performance advantage... cutting rez isn't exactly how I'd like manufacturers to boost performance.

Byron_Hinson said,

Would have preferred to have had a graphic hike rather than dual-core, especially for a device and os really pushing Xbox Live.

If you mean graphics hike as far as the GPU then there is one in there as well, no one talks much about the new GPU and only if the CPU is dual or single when in fact the more important hardware part is the GPU out of the two at this point.

Asmodai said,

Yeah the screen is of concern to me as well. I was hoping to go to a Mango phone from my Droid2 when my contract was up but I'm not sure I can bring myself to drop down $200+ for a phone with pretty much the same specs as I already have. The screen specifically would technically be a downgrade as the Droid 2 is 853x480. Sure that's not a huge difference but when you're expecting an UPGRADE and you get a step to the side it's disappointing. Apple is on it's second round of 960x640 devices and the newer Android devices seem to be going with qHD at 960x540 so 800x480 is beginning to look a bit dated. Running at a lower res on the same or similar graphics hardware could also account for some of the performance advantage... cutting rez isn't exactly how I'd like manufacturers to boost performance.

That's all well and good, and valid sure, but MS has kept the screen res the same so that devs don't have to worry about multiple ones at this time. The OS is almost 1 year old, you'll see higher res devices soon I expect. You also have to have teh OEMs pushing for it, if they don't then there's also no rush to add something like 1280X720 etc.

GP007 said,

That's all well and good, and valid sure, but MS has kept the screen res the same so that devs don't have to worry about multiple ones at this time. The OS is almost 1 year old, you'll see higher res devices soon I expect. You also have to have teh OEMs pushing for it, if they don't then there's also no rush to add something like 1280X720 etc.

As a consumer I couldn't care less what the devs have to worry about or how long the OS has been out. If anything being late to the game should be punished not rewarded.

GP007 said,

If you mean graphics hike as far as the GPU then there is one in there as well, no one talks much about the new GPU and only if the CPU is dual or single when in fact the more important hardware part is the GPU out of the two at this point.

These WP7 devices are using the ancient Adreno 205, its well over a year old, other phones (iPhone & Androids) are using newer GPU's now, and have been for many months, like Adreno 220

wolftail said,
I can't believe they gave the Asha 300 and 303 32GB and the Lumia 701 gets 8GB while the 800 gets 16GB.

Those also have small screens though, by far the more costly part of a smartphone is the screen over the storage, so in order to keep costs down while adding a bigger and nice AMOLED screen, you cut something else. That's not saying you won't get a 32GB option in the future, I expect to see a 810 or 850 etc with 32GB.

I'd love to have a Nokia Windows Phone but unless I can get one SIM free I won't be getting one as I'm on O2-UK.

neo158 said,
I'd love to have a Nokia Windows Phone but unless I can get one SIM free I won't be getting one as I'm on O2-UK.

The prices will be for the sim-free model - I'd expect them on the same date.

acido00 said,
Nokia N9 is by far better than the new Lumia 800

It's the same type of design, the only difference is the OS.

alphaomegainfinity said,
Wow Lumia 800 is the heaviest of all.

I think I like the phone being heavier, at least you'll know if you lose it.

jakem1 said,
Is there a good reason why the prices appear in US dollars when these phones aren't even for sale in the US.

Fine I'll change them all back to Euros

jakem1 said,
Is there a good reason why the prices appear in US dollars when these phones aren't even for sale in the US.

This is very common since the USD is the benchmark currency for many parts of the world. Quoting the price both in local currency and USD allows readers outside the country to get a basic understanding of the device's cost.

the better twin said,
since when did the US price get announced?
Doing a straight conversion from Euros is not how it works.

What magic do you use for currency conversion then?

Frazell Thomas said,

What magic do you use for currency conversion then?

Possibly the same as the manufacturer's will - swap the euro's sign for the dollar sign.

Frazell Thomas said,

What magic do you use for currency conversion then?

I think he means that even with prices going through conversion there is still a translantic tax. Convert a lot of American device prices from us to euro and you'll see how they overcharge, with a lot of prices being the same in us and euro I.e $299 & €299

Frazell Thomas said,

What magic do you use for currency conversion then?

This is a good start because it is only an estimate. When the official prices are announced they will probably be similar. But people need to keep in mind that exchange rates are not the only factor. For every country this hardware is sold in the company has more operating costs to deal with depending on the laws of that country.

Roadrunna said,

Possibly the same as the manufacturer's will - swap the euro's sign for the dollar sign.

lol sad but so true

Scorpus said,

Purely on screen size.

Screw that. With 0.1", it doesn't make any difference. I know, because my HTC Trophy has 3.8" S-LCD, and Droid Incredible has 3.7" AMOLED. I'd take the AMOLED any day.
EDIT: Hang on I'll make a slight adjustment

TheLegendOfMart said,

Thats better

I really want the Lumia 800 it looks brilliant.

Personally i'm waiting for the Nokia Ace, if it's ever released in the UK, before I upgrade as the screen sizes on these devices are to small for me.

TheLegendOfMart said,
In what world does S-LCD beat AMOLED?

Color levels, contrast(non dynamic. I.e. contrast evils, not just difference between darkest and brightest), and movement.