Sprint overstated EVO sales numbers by a multiple of three

The HTC EVO 4G launched on Monday to what Sprint quickly called "largest quantity of a single phone sold in one day ever for Sprint.” On top of this, in an attempt to quantify just how well the new handset was doing, Sprint said, “In addition, the total number of HTC EVO 4G devices sold on launch day was three times the number of Samsung Instinct and Palm Pre devices sold over their first three days on the market combined.”

Based on the estimated amount available at launch, that would put the number of EVOs sold at 300,000 to 600,000 units. Over a 3 day period, this would be a wildly successful launch for any consumer product, but the problem is, Sprint was wrong. They have since corrected their numbers and admitted the EVO sales numbers are actually “in line with the number of Samsung Instinct and Palm Pre devices sold over their first three days on the market combined.”

While the estimates were off by a large margin, the EVO is still off to a strong start. Sprint has reported that many outlets are out of stock, but they are working hard to replenish supply.

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i talked to my local sprint rep the other day and he said the evo sales were not that great due to the size of the phone. i got to play with one and i honestly am not buying one. im already hearing issues of no 4g service, horrid battery life, sd card issues & ramdom reboots, etc...

I got my EVO this weekend and it is awesome. The sound quality is great, the tethering just works, unlike the BB it replaces. My friends that have iPhone 3GS are truly envious. Suckers are tied to their ATT contracts. LMAO.

dsmguy said,
I got my EVO this weekend and it is awesome. The sound quality is great, the tethering just works, unlike the BB it replaces. My friends that have iPhone 3GS are truly envious. Suckers are tied to their ATT contracts. LMAO.

Hows batter life? I've heard people getting easily 20 hours out of it.
Also, how is 4g?

shakey said,

Hows batter life? I've heard people getting easily 20 hours out of it.
Also, how is 4g?

from what i hear the battery life is really bad compared to the hero. the only way to help the evo battery is to underclock the cpu and that's BS IMO.

techbeck said,

Any reason the thread says...

65535 Comments

lol, apparently I deleted so much that the comment count freaked out

Blasius said,

lol, apparently I deleted so much that the comment count freaked out

haha, new record 65k posts in an hour....no biggy, just thought I would point it out.

Blasius said,

lol, apparently I deleted so much that the comment count freaked out

Good to see you taking the fault for a mess up Just like the article lol.

shakey said,
Good to see you taking the fault for a mess up Just like the article lol.

+1... I came in on the tail end to close up the gaps, so nobody can blame me for starting it!

I would never even consider available only through a carrier.
I only buy SIM free, uncrippled, phones.....
In a short while 4G will be available in most of the new phones.....

Fritzly said,
I would never even consider available only through a carrier.
I only buy SIM free, uncrippled, phones.....
In a short while 4G will be available in most of the new phones.....

Yeah... let me know how that goes for you... SIM or not has nothing to do with whether the phone is locked to a specific carrier (you can get unlocked CDMA phones just like you can get unlocked GSM phones).

As for 4G coming to most new phones, what the hell are you smoking?!? Sprint is the only carrier that even has a 4G network, the rest of the carriers haven't even started developing theirs yet, and won't start deploying even their first round of 4G towers until next year.

Even when that starts happening, it will be a slow roll-out with modems only, followed by phones in 12-18 months... so I figure you're at least 2 years from seeing the first 4G phone's on Carrier's other than Sprint. Sorry to burst your bubble.

vaximily said,

Yeah... let me know how that goes for you... SIM or not has nothing to do with whether the phone is locked to a specific carrier (you can get unlocked CDMA phones just like you can get unlocked GSM phones).

As for 4G coming to most new phones, what the hell are you smoking?!? Sprint is the only carrier that even has a 4G network, the rest of the carriers haven't even started developing theirs yet, and won't start deploying even their first round of 4G towers until next year.

Even when that starts happening, it will be a slow roll-out with modems only, followed by phones in 12-18 months... so I figure you're at least 2 years from seeing the first 4G phone's on Carrier's other than Sprint. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Bubble? You may check an Atlas; the World is much bigger, and as far as mobile phones more advanced, than the US.

Fritzly said,
Bubble? You may check an Atlas; the World is much bigger, and as far as mobile phones more advanced, than the US.

... you do realize you're commenting on an article about a US-only carrier (Sprint), right? If your comment relates to non-US carriers, it's totally off topic to this article.

vaximily said,

... you do realize you're commenting on an article about a US-only carrier (Sprint), right? If your comment relates to non-US carriers, it's totally off topic to this article.

you do realize you are commenting on an off topic comment about an off topic comment which means your topic is also off topic and should take your own advice as should i ><

SputnikGamer said,
you do realize you are commenting on an off topic comment about an off topic comment which means your topic is also off topic and should take your own advice as should i ><

You just don't stop, do you?

vaximily said,

You just don't stop, do you?

are you the only person who is allowed to point out if someone is posting off topic? i must have missed that rule

vaximily said,

... you do realize you're commenting on an article about a US-only carrier (Sprint), right? If your comment relates to non-US carriers, it's totally off topic to this article.

My comment was about the phone which is a central part of the article and how I would never buy it because locked to a Carrier.....

Quod scripsi, scripsi.

Good to see sales are still good, and those buying are not blinkered by the Apple marketing and discovering there are phones miles better than the iPhone.

Exosphere said,
Good to see sales are still good, and those buying are not blinkered by the Apple marketing and discovering there are phones miles better than the iPhone.

The only thing I hear is that some do not like the layout of apps, but that is sort of a moot point. This phone is on par with everything the Iphone 4g has, except the screen resolution; but is offered at a better price on a better service.
Good to see the hype around EVO picking up more and more. As it is a product that will live up to the hype, and is not bound by any real rules on usage. Though I do hope that rooting the phone becomes a easier task since the last OTA patch they released.

shakey said,

The only thing I hear is that some do not like the layout of apps, but that is sort of a moot point. This phone is on par with everything the Iphone 4g has, except the screen resolution; but is offered at a better price on a better service.
Good to see the hype around EVO picking up more and more. As it is a product that will live up to the hype, and is not bound by any real rules on usage. Though I do hope that rooting the phone becomes a easier task since the last OTA patch they released.

Again as previously mentioned, the iPhone is not a 4G device... it sits on AT&T's pathetic excuse of a 3G network.

shakey said,

The only thing I hear is that some do not like the layout of apps, but that is sort of a moot point. This phone is on par with everything the Iphone 4g has, except the screen resolution; but is offered at a better price on a better service.
Good to see the hype around EVO picking up more and more. As it is a product that will live up to the hype, and is not bound by any real rules on usage. Though I do hope that rooting the phone becomes a easier task since the last OTA patch they released.

You are in disillusion if you think that Sprint has a better service. They had a 4g voice outage today in NYC.
"Sprint faces ill-timed New York City-wide voice outage" http://www.electronista.com/ar...ribute.to.nyc.voice.outage/
All EVO owners were without Voice Service.

Euphoria said,

You are in disillusion if you think that Sprint has a better service. They had a 4g voice outage today in NYC.
"Sprint faces ill-timed New York City-wide voice outage" http://www.electronista.com/ar...ribute.to.nyc.voice.outage/
All EVO owners were without Voice Service.

I dont use sprint as I dont like them....but I would hardly call an outage a reason to say they dont have better service. Crap happens and things have issues. I mean, I use Cox Cable internet and they go down from time to time...is it right to say because of that that Qwest DSL is better? Now, if sprint was down to a LONG time in that area, I would tend to agree with you more.

techbeck said,

I dont use sprint as I dont like them....but I would hardly call an outage a reason to say they dont have better service. Crap happens and things have issues. I mean, I use Cox Cable internet and they go down from time to time...is it right to say because of that that Qwest DSL is better? Now, if sprint was down to a LONG time in that area, I would tend to agree with you more.


I used them for two years in California and I hated them. I'll never go to Sprint again, even if they were giving away free EVOs

Euphoria said,

I used them for two years in California and I hated them. I'll never go to Sprint again, even if they were giving away free EVOs

Service really relies on where you are. Some providers have better coverage than others in certain areas.
Here in texas, on the property I live on, we lease a spot of land to a cell tower company, who host Sprint and AT&T services on it. It is one of the largest cell towers in the city, and with me being but just a hundred or so yards from it, I really have no need for wifi, as my EVDO signal is pretty decent alone lol. I have friends who live around me in areas that sprint does not really get good reception on as well, but all in all, sprint has been the best provider I've had out of any of the providers in Texas. And I am not happy for sticking up for Sprint, as they have caused me plenty of hassle before, but I can not disregard the good as well.

shakey said,

Service really relies on where you are. Some providers have better coverage than others in certain areas.
Here in texas, on the property I live on, we lease a spot of land to a cell tower company, who host Sprint and AT&T services on it. It is one of the largest cell towers in the city, and with me being but just a hundred or so yards from it, I really have no need for wifi, as my EVDO signal is pretty decent alone lol. I have friends who live around me in areas that sprint does not really get good reception on as well, but all in all, sprint has been the best provider I've had out of any of the providers in Texas. And I am not happy for sticking up for Sprint, as they have caused me plenty of hassle before, but I can not disregard the good as well.

True...I have been with T-Mobile for about 10 years or so and have coverage back home and where I live even though they dont have the best nationwide coverage. I get good deals with t-Mobile for being along term customer so I am sticking with them...for now.

Euphoria said,
You are in disillusion if you think that Sprint has a better service. They had a 4g voice outage today in NYC.
"Sprint faces ill-timed New York City-wide voice outage" http://www.electronista.com/ar...ribute.to.nyc.voice.outage/
All EVO owners were without Voice Service.

One short outage, for voice-only services, doesn't constitute bad service. AT&T and T-Mobile have both had citywide and even nationwide outages a few times over the past year, for ALL services (Data, Voice, Text), for extended periods of time.

Additionally, your statement is totally inaccurate in two ways. The outage was for their 3G network, not 4G, and their voice services don't run on the 4G network at all.

Euphoria said,
I used them for two years in California and I hated them. I'll never go to Sprint again, even if they were giving away free EVOs

There's no denying that Sprint has had more than it's share of issues over the years, but you might want to give them a second look, they are a totally different company than they were 2 years ago... Dan Hesse (the new CEO) has completely transformed the company. They've done a full 180 in a number of areas...

If you look around, they have consistently tested as the most reliable 3G network, their customer service scores have improved tremendously (trust me, after 7 years with Sprint / Nextel, I am astonished at the difference, that was always their weak point), by many accounts they have the fastest 3G network, and now they are at least 2 years ahead of every other national carrier for 4G... oh and don't forget, they have the cheapest Voice & Data plans of all of the national carriers.

vaximily said,

oh and don't forget, they have the cheapest Voice & Data plans of all of the national carriers.

That's only assuming you don't have a cheaper older contract. If you are the market for a new carrier that is a selling point but older contracts where cheaper that what anyone is giving for new contracts now. eg AT&T has unlimited data just like everyone else for 30 a month without any sales, if you already had that plan.

SputnikGamer said,
That's only assuming you don't have a cheaper older contract. If you are the market for a new carrier that is a selling point but older contracts where cheaper that what anyone is giving for new contracts now. eg AT&T has unlimited data just like everyone else for 30 a month without any sales, if you already had that plan.

1. The $30 Unlimited data plan from AT&T and Verizon was on top of the Voice plans, Unlimited Data is included in Sprint's plans.
2. Your comment is completely irrelevant - I used to have an Unlimited Everything plan with Sprint for $30 per month (read SERO) - rates go up, and you're restricted from what phone's you can have with those cheaper rate planes (for example, you can't have an Android on those older SERO plans, just like you couldn't put an iPhone on an old $60 AT&T rate plan.

The fact is, without any corporate discounts (which nearly everyone qualifies for on Sprint), high-end smartphones cost $69.99 per month (+$10 for the Evo 4G) for Unlimited Everything (450 daytime landline minutes, Unlimited calls to any cell phone, and nights and weekends starting at 7pm), while the closest comparable plan under AT&T costs $130 (even for older customers), doesn't included unlimited calls to cell phones, and has nights and weekends starting at 9pm.

Sorry, but all you've posted is pure speculation, not actual evidence, and you're trying to compare apples to oranges, not apples to apples, which frankly doesn't hold water for the Savvy people that browse this site.

vaximily said,

The $30 Unlimited data plan from AT&T and Verizon was on top of the Voice plans, Unlimited Data is included in Sprint's plans.

The fact is, without any corporate discounts (which nearly everyone qualifies for on Sprint), high-end smartphones cost $69.99 per month (+$10 for the Evo 4G) for Unlimited Everything (450 daytime landline minutes, Unlimited calls to any cell phone, and nights and weekends starting at 7pm), while the closest comparable plan under AT&T costs $130 (even for older customers), doesn't included unlimited calls to cell phones, and has nights and weekends starting at 9pm.

Sorry, but all you've posted is pure speculation, not actual evidence, and you're trying to compare apples to oranges, not apples to apples, which frankly doesn't hold water for the Savvy people that browse this site.

Speculation? Am I suppose to scan and post my phone bill, person information and all? I pay $75 a month for my AT&T bill which has unlimited Data and Text with 900 minutes a month. That's not speculation, that's fact.

SputnikGamer said,
Speculation? Am I suppose to scan and post my phone bill, person information and all? I pay $75 a month for my AT&T bill which has unlimited Data and Text with 900 minutes a month. That's not speculation, that's fact.

YOU, not the rest of the readers on this site. If you want to get technical, I only pay $50 for my Unlimited Everything plan on Sprint with my Samsung Moment, but I'm not spewing that to everybody on this website that would be looking to switch as they probably couldn't get the discounts I have. Nobody cares what YOU get, only what THEY can get.

Please stop trolling before they have to delete another 50 posts from this already crowded thread.

vaximily said,

YOU, not the rest of the readers on this site. If you want to get technical, I only pay $50 for my Unlimited Everything plan on Sprint with my Samsung Moment, but I'm not spewing that to everybody on this website that would be looking to switch as they probably couldn't get the discounts I have. Nobody cares what YOU get, only what THEY can get.

Please stop trolling before they have to delete another 50 posts from this already crowded thread.

Trolling? You said I was lying when I said what it costs me. I just corrected you for it. Stop being butt hurt. Fact remains that AT&T is the only reliable network where I live so and Sprint and Verizon have close to no coverage so instead of spewing about its "superior network" and telling me nobody cares what I have, remember that nobody should care what anyone else has in this country as from city to city the coverage varies. My opinion is biased towards AT&T because it is the cheapest in the area being that you can even get a military discount here and is the only one with 3g coverage outside of the city on the highway that actually works. So if my opinion on the network is trolling then so is yours and take your trolling opinion somewhere else.

SputnikGamer said,
blah blah blah, repeat of previous useless ramblings

I love your how your comments evolve based on how wrong you're proven. Earlier it was "AT&T is the best", now it's "AT&T is the best for me so that's what makes me bias".

Yet again, nobody cares what your individual circumstance is, only what they can get on their own, which is what makes my comments completely relevant. I wasn't going on and on about MY local coverage (AT&T sucks here by the way), or MY rate plan ($50 instead of $70 that normal Sprint customer's can get), I was talking about what's widely available to everyone.

I'm done wasting time responding to your useless, trolling comments. Mine are here as informational and should be taken at face value. Have a nice day

vaximily said,

There's no denying that Sprint has had more than it's share of issues over the years, but you might want to give them a second look, they are a totally different company than they were 2 years ago... Dan Hesse (the new CEO) has completely transformed the company. They've done a full 180 in a number of areas...

If you look around, they have consistently tested as the most reliable 3G network, their customer service scores have improved tremendously (trust me, after 7 years with Sprint / Nextel, I am astonished at the difference, that was always their weak point), by many accounts they have the fastest 3G network, and now they are at least 2 years ahead of every other national carrier for 4G... oh and don't forget, they have the cheapest Voice & Data plans of all of the national carriers.

So true. Over the last couple years, sprint has been very easy to deal with, and I've had 0 problems with them since the CEO switch.

Eh, mistakes happen. At least they are somewhat truthful and admit their fault.
I will still be picking up my EVO next month

shakey said,
Eh, mistakes happen. At least they are somewhat truthful and admit their fault.

Unlike with Apple...which has no market check and balance on their PR announced sales figures...

shakey said,
Eh, mistakes happen. At least they are somewhat truthful and admit their fault.
I will still be picking up my EVO next month

Still waiting on my friend to bring her EVO over...may not get it until tomorrow. Sucks, its not mine but I really want to check it out!!

shakey said,
Eh, mistakes happen. At least they are somewhat truthful and admit their fault.
I will still be picking up my EVO next month

Yeah, at least they admitted it. Though I have to wonder how they could be that far off... :-\