Steam stats show its Windows 8 users outnumber Mac OS

We already know how Valve founder Gabe Newell feels about Windows 8 (hint: he doesn't care for it very much) but that is not stopping some of the tens of millions of users of Valve's Steam gaming download site from running the Steam client on their gaming rig.

In the newly updated Steam hardware stats web page, which shows the numbers Valve collected from some of its Steam users in November, the combined market share of Windows 8 32-bit and 64-bit users is shown at 4.69 percent. That's well ahead of the stats shown by StatCounter and Net Applications, which showed Windows 8 is being used by 1.44 percent and 1.09 percent of PC owners, respectively.

The stats page for Steam also shows that its Windows 8 users already outnumber the number of its Mac OS gamers. The total amount of Mac Steam gamers now stands at 3.26 percent. Valve launched the Mac Steam client well over two and a half years ago. Steam's hardware stat numbers is an optional feature in the Steam client which lets users send their hardware information in their PC to Valve.

It's not a shock to learn that Windows 7 is by far the OS that is used most by Steam gamers. The November numbers show that the combined share of Windows 7 32-bit and 64-bit users is now at a dominating 72.56 percent. Windows XP is still being used by 10.83 percent of Steam gamers, and the much maligned Windows Vista is still installed in a total of 8.07 percent of Steam PC rigs.

Valve recently started closed beta testing of an upcoming Linux client for Steam, which included a Linux beta of Team Fortress 2 along with 24 other third party games. Valve also began adding non-gaming software to Steam earlier this year.

Source: Steam hardware stats page | Image via Valve

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Steam was Windows only not so long ago, and Steam's game selection on Mac isn't nearly as vast. Their also haven't been any new blockbuster games on Steam since adding Mac besides Portal 2. I think you'll see a lot more Mac users once Half Life 3 rolls out.

One more note:

Windows XP 32 bit
Windows XP 64 bit
Windows Vista 32 bit
Windows Vista 64 bit
Windows 7
Windows 7 64 bit
Windows 8
Windows 8 64 bit

Pretty consistent, huh?

In other news, neowin, please start to use PNG for graphics like this coz the JPEG compression artifacts look atrocious.

What is most interesting about this really, is that Windows 8 outnumbers Mac, but Mac will surely outnumber Linux desktops by a big margin.

Where does Valve think they are going with Linux on that platform? Nowhere fast, that's where.

Anything would beat a Mac.

Just a case of Neowin latching on to what 'very little' good news there is about Windows 8, again.

So 19% of steam users use Vista or XP, I don't think it will take Windows 8 long to top that, probably 2-4 months or maybe less. There could be a lot of new Windows 8 users who just haven't installed steam yet.

JessJess said,
People still use STEAM? That's um, nifty, I guess.

I don't understand comments like these. Are you completely ignorant Steam's popularity? can I join you under your rock?

JessJess said,
People still use STEAM? That's um, nifty, I guess.

Why wouldn't you use steam unless you're pirating?

Lord Method Man said,

JessJess and 5 other people are currently using Origin as we speak.


Probably *a bit* more than 6 people - but only because BF3 for PC still rocks

Enron said,
I tried gaming on my mac but the video card always gives out after about 6 months.

This. I never understood the quality claim regarding Apple hardware. The only thing it's superior at is *design*, while build quality is on the back burner.

Joshie said,

This. I never understood the quality claim regarding Apple hardware. The only thing it's superior at is *design*, while build quality is on the back burner.

Same experiences here. People keep trying and hoping it's just bad luck.
That probably the reason why people are still buying french cars too.

Enron said,
I tried gaming on my mac but the video card always gives out after about 6 months.

Never had a Mac's video card give out. It did happen twice with my PC at work.

I made it all the way through Half Life 2 and all the episodes on an iMac. Graphics and resolution all maxed the entire time, except I had to turn down anti-aliasing a notch in Episode 2. I used that computer for another year then sold it on ebay to get a portable Mac.

I was running XP on Bootcamp of course, because Steam did not exist on Mac OS X at the time.

KSib said,
Not surprising. No one buys a Mac for gaming (or that would be kind of sad)

I did. Except I'm counted up there with the Windows 7 64-bit crowd, because that's what I'm running.

Turns out Macs make high quality PCs, and pretty decent gaming laptops. Sure they're expensive, but the laptop is well-built, and durable, and very portable.

cyberdrone2000 said,

I did. Except I'm counted up there with the Windows 7 64-bit crowd, because that's what I'm running.

Turns out Macs make high quality PCs, and pretty decent gaming laptops. Sure they're expensive, but the laptop is well-built, and durable, and very portable.

That it's a good point; how many of those windows dudes are actually running on a Mac.

cyberdrone2000 said,

I did. Except I'm counted up there with the Windows 7 64-bit crowd, because that's what I'm running.

Turns out Macs make high quality PCs, and pretty decent gaming laptops. Sure they're expensive, but the laptop is well-built, and durable, and very portable.

I'm right there with you, though not for much longer

I'm getting tired of some of the quirks bootcamp has, gonna replace my macbook pro with a RazerBlade the form factor was the entire reason i got the macbook in the first place, can't stand regular bulky gaming laptops

No offense but Mac's claim to fame has never been as a leading gaming platform. Add to that, most upgrading early will be geeks, i.e. gamers.

We all know Windows 8's share will grow especially since the Desktop Environment is a worthy upgrade, games run great under it. And it is the de facto standard OS from this point forward on the dominant pc platform.

MorganX said,
No offense but Mac's claim to fame has never been as a leading gaming platform. Add to that, most upgrading early will be geeks, i.e. gamers.

We all know Windows 8's share will grow especially since the Desktop Environment is a worthy upgrade, games run great under it. And it is the de facto standard OS from this point forward on the dominant pc platform.

Who cares about windows 8 ?
why did you drag win 8 into this ?
oh wait i see your defending it..
we on auto pilot now ?

Re: your queries about Windows 8, did you bother reading the article title?

Defending it, I'm merely stating facts that actually minimized it's ~4% gaming share as described in this article.

I am Not PCyr said,

Who cares about windows 8 ?
why did you drag win 8 into this ?
oh wait i see your defending it..
we on auto pilot now ?

He dragged Windows 8 into it because that is the topic of this post ! Apparently you care a great deal about Windows 8, otherwise you wouldn't have posted on a post that is avout usage share of Windows 8 on the steam platform.

sjaak327 said,

He dragged Windows 8 into it because that is the topic of this post ! Apparently you care a great deal about Windows 8, otherwise you wouldn't have posted on a post that is avout usage share of Windows 8 on the steam platform.


He has so much animosity toward anyone who doesn't share his views that he's literally experiencing a completely different reality from the rest of us.

He should be studied; there's a paper in this somewhere.

Darth Tigris said,
So what does this say about StatCounter and Net Applications ...?

StatCounter and Net Applications are good for checking general PC usage stats, while Steam has a more hardcore PC audience

Darth Tigris said,
So what does this say about StatCounter and Net Applications ...?

The comparison isn't even close to being relevant. Those sites attempt to measure worldwide usage, whereas this is only measuring usage among those who use Steam (Hint: It's not even close to being a representative sample).

That's akin to me saying, Microsoft dominates the OS marketshare, because at home, 100% of our computers use Microsoft operating systems, 80% of which are running Windows 8 Pro x64. I'm still measuring OS install base, but the sample size and aim isn't anywhere near relevant to Steam stats, or StatCounter/Net Applications stats.

Ideas Man said,

The comparison isn't even close to being relevant. Those sites attempt to measure worldwide usage, whereas this is only measuring usage among those who use Steam (Hint: It's not even close to being a representative sample).

That's akin to me saying, Microsoft dominates the OS marketshare, because at home, 100% of our computers use Microsoft operating systems, 80% of which are running Windows 8 Pro x64. I'm still measuring OS install base, but the sample size and aim isn't anywhere near relevant to Steam stats, or StatCounter/Net Applications stats.


Steam does show how millions of hardcore PC users have in terms of hardware so it is a relevant sample for that particular group of PC owners.

John Callaham said,

Steam does show how millions of hardcore PC users have in terms of hardware so it is a relevant sample for that particular group of PC owners.

yeah a sample of PC users use PC's lol
lets see a survey how many mac users use mac apps lol

John Callaham said,

StatCounter and Net Applications are good for checking general PC usage stats, while Steam has a more hardcore PC audience

lol "hardcore"

Rohdekill said,
doesn't say much considering Steam has virtually nothing avail. for mac.
...and no, I don't own a mac.

It has more than you would expect tbh, i was surprised to see about 30 of the games i owned had a Mac port. Granted still nothing compared to how many games are on Steam that are Windows only.

Rohdekill said,
doesn't say much considering Steam has virtually nothing avail. for mac.
...and no, I don't own a mac.

My thoughts exactly. For Windows you have users with it already installed that are updating and you also have a bit of incentive to install it if you haven't before for OS X on the other hand there really is very little incentive due to a limited selection, most of which can be gotten and played without Steam.

There's also the fact that a lot of people who might be playing games using Steam on a Mac might be doing so while running Windows again due to the limited OS X selection anyone particularity serious about using Steam or gaming in general on a Mac will likely be dual booting Windows.

InsaneNutter said,

It has more than you would expect tbh, i was surprised to see about 30 of the games i owned had a Mac port. Granted still nothing compared to how many games are on Steam that are Windows only.

not really, especially when you think, a lot of games that are available in the mac app store are still only available for windows on steam

Rohdekill said,
doesn't say much considering Steam has virtually nothing avail. for mac.
...and no, I don't own a mac.

On the other hand, it says a lot considering there are people who seriously think Steam for Linux will be compelling with even FEWER games than it has for Mac.

I think Windows 8 grabbing more Steam share than Mac OS is a sign of the imminent disappointment due anyone who thought Valve would finally bring the year of desktop Linux.

wasd- said,
Even XP 64bits have more LOL

Read just a bit more carefully... you're looking at 'Windows 8' which is just the 32 bit version. Look six spots up and you'll see 'Windows 8 64 bit' with a 4.25% share. The total number of Windows 8 users are 4.69% as the article said.

wasd- said,
Even XP 64bits have more LOL
(Than W8)
Yeah, if you look to Windows 8 32bit, that version that's nobody uses. Windows 8 64bit is larger than all Mac OS X apps together