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Steve Ballmer is CNBC's second-worst CEO of 2012, we have some alternatives

So earlier this week, I was watching CNBC and one of its correspondences Herb Greenberg posted his list for the worst CEOs of 2012. To my surprise, the person he put second on the list was Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer. According to Greenberg, Ballmer has been worse than the three lower people on his list, including Ron Johnson of JC Penney, Zynga's Mark Pincus and Antonio Perez of Eastman Kodak. Only Andrew Mason of Groupon was worse than Ballmer, according to his list.

So, how did Ballmer end up on this wall of shame? Greenberg says that the slow launch of Windows 8 was partly to blame, but the main reason seems to be that Ballmer has been more of a good manager rather than an innovator. He added:

What you now have is a company with a bunch of cash that is sort of more like a utility but with this really meager 3.4% yield, not even a special dividend. Look, by putting Ballmer on this list, I believe it puts that management question of Microsoft front and center.

Really, Mr. Greenberg? Really? Look, we know Ballmer is not perfect, but is he really worse than the three executives that you put below him? Microsoft has been and continues to be a highly profitable company that is also in the middle of a reinvention of is Windows brand. While the jury is still out on if it will succeed, it's certainly doing a lot better than the companies that are run by the people lower than him on your list.

We also can't believe you have ignored CEOs like Brian Farrell of THQ. He has made a series of missteps that has resulted in the tame publisher filing for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. There's also AMD CEO Rory Read, who has cut a massive 15 percent of the company's workers in 2012 and has seen its share of the PC market go way down as it has failed to compete with Intel.

What about Research in Motion's Thorsten Heins, who took over as CEO early in 2012? He's been hyping BlackBerry 10 to the press and to developers for some time but we are still waiting for its launch. In the meantime, BlackBerry's market share continues to go down and it also laid off 5,000 workers earlier this year. Hardly a stellar track record.

We are not even going to get into the fact that two major CEOs that were in place in 2012 got kicked out. Yahoo CEO Scott Thompson said good-bye after just a few months on the job after it was discovered he lied about his educational background. Before he left, Thompson laid off 2,000 employees and got into an ill advised lawsuit against Facebook that was quickly settled after he left. Best Buy CEO Brian Dunn left after he apparently got a bit too "personal" with someone.

Apparently, Mr. Greenberg also discounts other things that Microsoft, under Ballmer's leadership, has done well. He has certainly had a big hit with the Xbox gaming brand and even the Windows Phone business has seen some life in the past year thanks in part to Microsoft's partnership with Nokia. The Office software productivity suite continues to dominate the industry, so much so that we will likely see Office on Apple and iOS in 2012.

The company's acquisition of Skype has also proven to be highly successful. Finally, the Surface tablet, while getting mixed initial reviews, shows that Microsoft wants to make a tablet product that doesn't try to follow what Apple and other tablet makers have done with its durable design, its Touch Cover keyboard and more.

2012 is filled with CEOs making dumb mistakes that have caused their companies to suffer as a result. Mr. Greenberg may not like how Ballmer runs Microsoft, but there's no question he doesn't deserve the title of the second worst CEO this year.

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Ballmer is a bad CEO not because Windows 8 doesn't sell any unit but because it sold a lot less than expected. A windows 8 without the Metro nonsense could have double the sales of Windows 8 without even spending so much in marketing.

This just in: journalists make fun of Microsoft. Story at 11.

I'd be fully ready to bet that this guy did zero analysis before deciding he wanted Microsoft on this list. He wanted to do a worst CEOs list, decided in advance that he wanted Ballmer on it, and proceeded to look for any angle he could use to pull it off.

Not that this is unique to him, or toward Ballmer. This is just how talking heads work.

Because he feels the need to take unnecessary shots and throw jabs in many of his articles.

It's not just him but seems to be the norm with most tech sites.

Edited by matt4pack, Dec 22 2012, 9:00pm :

The people that think Ballmer is a bad CEO is because they are just incompetent and jealous of one of the most diverse CEO's out there, he had to make a huge change in that way Microsoft works to make it the modern and stylish software pieces it is today, it has the best organized panel making it personalized, fast and easy to use, i watch my windows 8 PC and i see me, i got to my windows phone 7.8 and i see my work of art, my special space where i can work, play and even get relaxed, microsoft now is in constant movement and their software show it, everything is alive, and all that is thanks to Steve Ballmer, brilliant guy behind those smart and creative people developing MS products.

erikpienk said,
The people that think Ballmer is a bad CEO is because they are just incompetent and jealous o,

Oh come on. Do you really think it took 12 years to Ballmer to come with a mobile strategy because of Gates ?

He certainly deserves to be high on the list.

Microsoft has been late to the party with WP and had Ballmer been at the head of RIM the game would be already over.

I thinks its a bit unfair,seems that US media is partial to Apple and God Steven J. But you gotta give then credit this year for making a complete flip and really positioning all of there areas-Windows,tablets ,entertainment -xbox. Hope fully it it improve next yr .Its too early to say he's a failure if any thing he has the balls to take a big risk even though one cud say "Well MS make so much profit why would they want to take out the star button?"

Greenburg is huffing and puffing - trying to divert attention from his prediction that Green Mountain Coffee would go to zero. Gotta luv tha guy!

Even Edward II was called "King", albeit for a very short time. Yet he was at the pinnacle of power that oversaw a vast and powerful kingdom. His weakness and ineptitude was quickly recognized and corrected...Microsoft should have been so lucky.

Honestly, Steve Ballmer is an asshat. He lacks vision, creativity and drive to make Microsoft something fresh and new. Windows 8 had so much potential, but they've ruined it with their half assed product.

The whole Microsoft board of directors, and Ballmer himself just need to be replaced by younger, more future thinking people. Their all basically stiff people in business suits that don't know how to adapt their company to the new digital era.

CNBC is the poster child for the prostitution and extortion that is happening under the noses of folks that are more interested in what the Kardashians are up to the than the systematic looting going on by financial organization.

Anything that comes out of anyones mouth on CNBC is about stock manipulation and positioning (cept you Steve). Greenbergs top 10 list of CEO's is akin to the New York Times best seller list. It has nothing to do with reality and everything to do with what they want to sell you.

There are far far far worse CEO's than Ballmer. Just because Greenberg and his cronies can't make a buck flipping digits doesn't mean anything. In the tech world, there are many companies that have flat out disappeared in the last 10 years, MS is not only relevant but poised.

This is Neowin... in an apple site they would defend Tim Cook, in a Linux site people would defend Stallman (only if he won't talk bad about Google) ect...

Well, first, its reported, because its a news item.

Second, Neowin adds editorial comments to most stories. In their story on Windows 8 app improvements, the author added this comment critical of Microsoft, "It's encouraging to see Microsoft constantly improving these basic apps and taking into account users' feedback, but a more comprehensive overhaul to bring in more features and a better experience would certainly be welcome." http://www.neowin.net/news/win...r-and-mail-apps-get-updated

In this case, what do you expect? CNBC's rationale is weird whether you like Ballmer or not and whether you like Windows 8 or not. Ex., they say, "Ballmer has been more of a good manager rather than an innovator." I guess it depends on your definition of innovation, but even people who don't like Windows 8 + Surface complain about there being too much change going on. Development in Microsoft has been far from status status quo.

My question: What's your point? Why are you complaining that someone is poking holes in CNBC's ranking?

It does appear that the author is defending him, but they did highlight some serious missteps by other CEO's who have either been canned or seen their company file for bankruptcy.

I honestly can't stand the sight of that guy. It would probably do wonders for Microsoft's imagine if he disappeared completely from public view.

Meanwhile you would worship at the feet at Jobs, and now little Timmy. Me, personally, I couldn't care less about seeing a person, as long as they give me the tech I want and need. Microsoft does that for me, not the stumbling and bumbling Apple.

Ballmer def should be #1, MS has some great products but none talk to each other in meaningful ways. Buy a WP and you can't have meaningful interaction with other MS products like Xbox or Windows 8, not to talk about products like home server. That's a result of a ceo with no unifying vision for his companies products, too busy making ios software.

Yet in 2012 Ballmer took the first steps to changing all of that. With software like smartglass and services like Xbox Music there is now interaction between MS products. It could all fail but the modern design language is a unified vision for Microsoft. You might not like it but you can't say Ballmer failed to work on that department.

efjay said,
Ballmer def should be #1, MS has some great products but none talk to each other in meaningful ways.

because iOS and OSX really can talk to each other so well. Same goes for Android and PC's.

FalseAgent said,

because iOS and OSX really can talk to each other so well

Don't they? What's a particularly lacking area then?

efjay said,
Ballmer def should be #1, MS has some great products but none talk to each other in meaningful ways. Buy a WP and you can't have meaningful interaction with other MS products like Xbox or Windows 8, not to talk about products like home server. That's a result of a ceo with no unifying vision for his companies products, too busy making ios software.

Actually that's a result of the anti trust trouble from the 90's, which ended in 2011... And less than a year later and look how fast Microsoft is moving to integrate again.

Manish said,

Don't they? What's a particularly lacking area tahen?

iOS and OSX talk to each other through iTunes and iCloud. Windows Phone 8 and Windows 8 isn't that different either: they talk to each other though the sync client, skydrive, and as an added bonus, through the Microsoft account as well. There is nothing lacking about it in this regard.

Your comment implied sarcasm that indicated iOS and OSX do not "talk to each other so well". Did I misinterpret that? If not, you still haven't answered my questions.

Manish said,
Your comment implied sarcasm that indicated iOS and OSX do not "talk to each other so well". Did I misinterpret that? If not, you still haven't answered my questions.

what I mean is that iOS and OSX talk to each other similar to how WP8 and W8 does. OP said WP8 and W8 don't have any meaningful interaction between them. To be fair, iOS and OSX is almost the same (arguably weaker)! If you're going to say that one sucks, then fairly speaking, the other one sucks too.

efjay said,
Ballmer def should be #1, MS has some great products but none talk to each other in meaningful ways. Buy a WP and you can't have meaningful interaction with other MS products like Xbox or Windows 8, not to talk about products like home server. That's a result of a ceo with no unifying vision for his companies products, too busy making ios software.
The Xbox and Windows Phone are 2 completely different products. Show me someone who has a phone that works with a game console. OH THATS RIGHT....NO ONE. What other devices does Apple's iPhone work with? Oh thats right...NOTHING. I fail to understand your point..OH WAIT. I know why, you actually didnt make a point.

TechieXP said,
What other devices does Apple's iPhone work with? Oh thats right...NOTHING.

Yeh let's just overlook Macs/PCs and any AirPrint/AirPlay-enabled devices such as the Apple TV.

Additionally you failed to understand his/her point, i.e. the need for more interaction and cohesion between the separate Microsoft products/services. However they are improving in this area, e.g. almost universal Skydrive support and Xbox Smartglass app. Also I don't understand why you, or others who posted above you, care about what Apple or Google is doing in this regard? Is Microsoft only capable of copying/following others or can we expect it to take the lead and show others how it's done?

John, most of the companies you cited were already pretty much in trouble... So those are not news in 2012. Microsoft is... Except for Kodak, which was huge and died this year.
Steve Ballmer should have left Microsoft before Bill Gates or right after him (say, two years?).
This man is killing the company, pretending to be modern, but with 20th century management style based on politics. It worked for about 30 years, but not anymore.
He should be the first on the list, due to Microsoft's actual size (as of today, at least...).

You're suggesting that Microsoft got into trouble in 2012? Because Ballmer is the man behind Windows 7, which became the most succesful Windows to date in 2012. Xbox 360 also gained a lot of ground into 2012, establshing itself as a mainstream console with Kinect. The just revealed Windows Phone figure show that WP gained a lot of ground in 2012 (and these figures dont even include WP8 sales). Windows 8 also launched with numbers similar to W7 and above W:XP.

In 2012 Ballmer also optimized Microsoft's portfolio by bringing a new signature style to all their products as well as integrating many of them. A lot of steps have been made to bring together the shattered operations of Microsoft.

History is written by the victors. Right now people are calling Ballmer a fool. But the decisions he has made are yet to translate into an actual profit or a lose. If it turns out to be a succes then suddenly he'll be considered a visionary, someone who was ahead of his time. He would then be praised for sticking to the old management style to leads to real growth and real value. So I think its way to soon to make these kind of judgements.

That's very romantic. He was obviously very successful... In the past. For the future, I have to heavily disagree with you. Microsoft is a Windows company. If Windows declines, so will Microsoft.

Luis Mazza said,
That's very romantic. He was obviously very successful... In the past. For the future, I have to heavily disagree with you. Microsoft is a Windows company. If Windows declines, so will Microsoft.

Windows isn't Microsoft's #1 source of revenue anymore.

Luis Mazza said,
That's Office. Which is for... which OS? I forgot.

Currently on Windows, Win RT, WP7, WP8, OSX and on the Internet as Office 365

In 2013 it's coming to Android and iOS

Pygmy_Hippo said,

Currently on Windows, Win RT, WP7, WP8, OSX and on the Internet as Office 365

In 2013 it's coming to Android and iOS

I'm referring to volumes and revenues. The platforms are already pretty known.
End of story for me.

Ronnet said,
Ywhich became the most succesful Windows to date in 2012.

rubbish - we've seen articles here where Windows 8 is barely 1/10's as successful as windows 7 was at the same time in its launch. The 40 million sold were mostly to OEM's buying licenses upfront to install on hardware they would be manufacturing over the next x years.

dvb2000 said,

rubbish - we've seen articles here where Windows 8 is barely 1/10's as successful as windows 7 was at the same time in its launch. The 40 million sold were mostly to OEM's buying licenses upfront to install on hardware they would be manufacturing over the next x years.


How can you quote him and change it to W8 when he said W7. Funny you believe articles that tells a different story than MS says they sold, but yet everyone believes what Apple and Google says what they sold.

Ronnet said,
You're suggesting that Microsoft got into trouble in 2012? Because Ballmer is the man behind Windows 7, which became the most succesful Windows to date in 2012. Xbox 360 also gained a lot of ground into 2012, establshing itself as a mainstream console with Kinect. The just revealed Windows Phone figure show that WP gained a lot of ground in 2012 (and these figures dont even include WP8 sales). Windows 8 also launched with numbers similar to W7 and above W:XP.

In 2012 Ballmer also optimized Microsoft's portfolio by bringing a new signature style to all their products as well as integrating many of them. A lot of steps have been made to bring together the shattered operations of Microsoft.

History is written by the victors. Right now people are calling Ballmer a fool. But the decisions he has made are yet to translate into an actual profit or a lose. If it turns out to be a succes then suddenly he'll be considered a visionary, someone who was ahead of his time. He would then be praised for sticking to the old management style to leads to real growth and real value. So I think its way to soon to make these kind of judgements.

You are applying credit to a CEO for products the worlds finest engineer and science teams created.

With Bill Gates, this was accepted, as he did play a 'coding' role in many products and worked at the software engineering level.

Windows 7 is a refinement of Vista Technology that is also a fork of Xbox 360 NT modification technologies, that were created when Gates was still a MAJOR voice in all these projects.

Ballmer is not a programmer or technology expert in any way, he is a business minded person that does still work from outdated business models. He allows internal politics and also presents an external political image; and both are dangerous for a company.

He isn't 'horrible', but compared to Gates has a very different approach that is in contrast to what Gates did and held to be important.

Gates was very much about getting technology in the hands of the industry as a whole and in the hands of consumers, even if the project was not profitable. Microsoft gave away more technology during the Gates years than most companies could even dream to create.

Some of this still persists in giving to the industry under Ballmer, but he is far less likely to allow an internal project to continue that does not have an immediate profit return.

Gates is the reason many products were kept in production, that sadly Ballmer did not allow or let slip. TabletPC is the biggest example of a technology that Ballmer destroyed, when Microsoft was the father or the Tablet industry and now is clawing to regain what was lost.

Gates invested for the long term and often implemented technologies knowing that they would not have consumer viability for several years. Ballmer is reluctant to let a product exist long enough to even see if could become viable.

This is why there is concern around Windows Phone, as it hasn't hit hard yet, and many are afraid Ballmer's past course will come around to kill the product/platform.


(Microsoft has committed to Windows Phone 'beyond Ballmer's reach', but that doesn't stop the trepidation of some companies.)

Shadowzz said,

Windows isn't Microsoft's #1 source of revenue anymore.
That matters...why? Office is MS's big money maker because, it avail on more than just Windows. It also cost more than the consumer version of Windows. But without Windows is nothing. GUess what, Xbox sales may be high, but most of the money is made from the games that run on the xbox.

Dummy! You obviously dont own or have ran a business.

There are 1.3B computers + that run Windows. At least 40% of them have some version of Office. Do the math fool. Office cost $399 while Windows cost about 99. THat means Office account in cost 4 copies of each Windows sold.

Almost every business PC ordered will come with Office. If an Enterprise orders 10,000 computers today and they get Office on each one, even at the Volume License discount, Office still cost more than Windows.

You are a clueless trolling loser who has no idea what he is talking about. So what Windows isnt Microsoft's big money maker, the Mac isnt for Apple either. Your point?!

TechieXP said,
That matters...why? ...

You are a clueless trolling loser who has no idea what he is talking about. So what Windows isnt Microsoft's big money maker, the Mac isnt for Apple either. Your point?!


Based on the context of the post that you quoted, I believe (and of course I could be wrong) that the point is that Microsoft doesn't necessarily "fail" even if Windows does, as they have other ways of making money e.g. Office; I don't think that it was a comment taunting Microsoft.

Also, pro tip: personally I try to be condescending only when I know what I'm talking about, otherwise it's not the other person that comes across as a fool.

ahhell said,
Actually MS and NBC killed their partnership so MSNBC no longer exists.

Microsoft and NBC no longer any partnership and are not even content partners now.

Microsoft broke off the Television assets of MSNBC around 2006. This is when the network started pulling on more outspoken hosts trying to bolster their existing audience as they couldn't just survive on Microsoft subsidizing them any longer.

The Web interests of MSNBC kept a partnership until a couple of years ago, and now all of MSNBC is under NBC news.

Sadly in the 90s when MSNBC was started it was not a 24hr news station, and instead was a technology news station. It had a lot of great content for both home and business users involved with technology.

actually mr. Ballmer is a great presenter. And he is also a good salesman. But i think many people dont like his bullish personality.
I dont know about hes leadership, maybe he is not so good. But it is the numbers that count for mr. Ballmer, and so far Microsoft has been a success when it comes to earnings.
Still i think Windows 8 is missing much and is not a mature os when you compare Apple ios and google os. It still has a lot af miss hits. And do not live up to Microsofts principals do more with less.

In Australia, people are not buying laptops because they have Windows 8 on them. People are actually asking the sales people if they can put on Windows 7 at least that works for them.
Also, Surface sales here have been dismal speaking to a friend who works at JB Hi-Fi. Out of 200 units given to the store, only 12 have sold.

That's because retailers aren't advertising the Surface enough, and putting them on lame shelves, even separate from all the other tablets. I stopped by a JB Hi-Fi store recently and the Surface was just sitting there by itself, without any large advertising or anything.

The reality is there is not too much hardware for W8..Normal people are not like us we love new technology and are inclined to try it. If the geeks like W8 and the fancy touch features then the noobs will for suit because they see us doing such ‘great things' with our new devices. Change is bad, especially for technology because people don't want to learn or take the time to invest in something new when it will eventually improve their productivity

Agreed, Windows 8 is a failure on laptops and desktops, and Ballmer is to blame. Anyone who says otherwise, either doesn't actually use their computer, or has a tablet/phone which W8 it was designed for and makes good use of its disabled/limited functionality.

dvb2000 said,
Agreed, Windows 8 is a failure on laptops and desktops, and Ballmer is to blame. Anyone who says otherwise, either doesn't actually use their computer, or has a tablet/phone which W8 it was designed for and makes good use of its disabled/limited functionality.

So I, as a software developer really don't use my computer. And you, the Linux user, really is the sole judge of who really uses a computer properly or not, and which OS is worthy of use or not. Win8 is horrible because it is the year of Linux!

dvb2000 said,
Agreed, Windows 8 is a failure on laptops and desktops, and Ballmer is to blame. Anyone who says otherwise, either doesn't actually use their computer...

Good lord, what an ignorant statement.

Edited by Ideas Man, Dec 22 2012, 11:08pm :

nohone said,
So I, as a software developer really don't use my computer. And you, the Linux user, really is the sole judge of who really uses a computer properly or not;

I hope your software development skills are better than your other deductive powers. I use Windows 7 not Linux.

Maybe your desire to make money from windows 8 apps is obscuring your ability to see the defects in Windows 8.

WizardCM said,
That's because retailers aren't advertising the Surface enough, and putting them on lame shelves, even separate from all the other tablets. I stopped by a JB Hi-Fi store recently and the Surface was just sitting there by itself, without any large advertising or anything.

What difference does it make if it's next to other tablets or not?? if it isn't selling, separating it won't do anything?

dvb2000 said,

I hope your software development skills are better than your other deductive powers. I use Windows 7 not Linux.

Maybe your desire to make money from windows 8 apps is obscuring your ability to see the defects in Windows 8.

Just a few hours ago, your profile page had about 5 different logos, all of them for OSS, such as a Linux distro, Android, FF, and a few others. So if it walks like a OSS user, and talks like a OSS user, then they probably are not a Windows user.

So me liking software is based solely on money making schemes? I am not permitted to like something unless I am making money from it? People around here keep complaining that they are being oppressed because the Win8 positive people will not let people who don't like Win8 not dislike it. But here you are, telling me that I am not allowed to like Win8 unless I am making money from apps I built for it. Who are the ones not permitting others from having an opinion?

Anarkii said,
In Australia, people are not buying laptops because they have Windows 8 on them. People are actually asking the sales people if they can put on Windows 7 at least that works for them.
Also, Surface sales here have been dismal speaking to a friend who works at JB Hi-Fi. Out of 200 units given to the store, only 12 have sold.

So ignorance is an excuse for why a product is good or bad?

Does this mean if the populace of Australia believes an Abacus is superior to a Calculator, that calculators are bad technology as well?

A technology should be held up to the merits of the technology, not a locales perception.

Even if the user never access the Metro Interface, Windows 8 is considerably faster and more capable than Windows 7. So even in the broadest sense of the definition, they are choosing the slower, less capable product.

he deserves to be number 1.
The failure of Windows 8, the horrible sales of Surface speak volumes.
He single-handedly is responsible for killing Microsoft.

Windows 8 isn't a failure at all, and I wonder how you know that de sales of the Surface are horrible, here in Belgium, you can't buy it, but I see a lot of people walking around with it!

Anarkii said,
he deserves to be number 1.
The failure of Windows 8, the horrible sales of Surface speak volumes.
He single-handedly is responsible for killing Microsoft.

Failure of Windows 8? I'm using it right now, love it. This far into the launch Windows XP was looking much worse, yet now it is considered a succes. So way to soon to Judge Windows 8's succes.

Surface actually has great sales if you look at it from a POS perspective. Surface is only available at a very limited number of locations in a even smaller list of countries. However this is not to say that the Surface would be a succes if it had worldwide availability. All I'm saying is that you really can't Judge Surface sale figures. Partly because they are unknown but mainly because it isn't marketed at the masses.

Is Microsoft done for? Some like to believe it is but IMO the changes they've made actually give them a chance to survive. Continuing the route of Windows 7 would have killed them in the long run. They've made Windows ready for mobile devices and this at least provides them with a chance.

I know on here there are many tech fans and they dont see the necessity but the average consumer doesn't use their computer as much and finds tablets and phones substitutes. In fact there are countries in the world (particulary developing countries) where tablets and phones are the primary computer of a household.

People have been predicting that Microsoft would die for decades now. They were sure with xbox, they were sure with Vista but they are stil around. Microsoft has now made a daring move that could kill them but only time will tell. At least its better than standing stil like they used to.

While I agree Ballmer is not the visionary the late Steve Jobs was, he has proven his ability to hire and retain good people to move Microsoft towards total product cohesion.

It actually feels like the left hand is talking to the right these days. Which was a big change from the past. Even if it is just Ballmer picking internal 'winners'.

In terms of products, they have really great products, nobody can deny that hasn't improved. Windows Phone, Surface, Windows 8, Xbox. Lets face it, apple has won the hearts and minds of the masses. Its gonna take a lot to turn that around. I would argue this trend started long before Ballmer was at the reigns. on top of well executed products, modern UI is an effective brand mechanism that should help in the long march against apple's domination of the hearts and minds.

Ballmer can take a hit for not moving the stock price (I know I'm not to happy about this, but the dividends are nice) or not having the jobsian charisma. But he has done well in reorganizing the consumer product line to something that can truly compete with apple class gear.

He should just go back to the old days of doing coke, girls (and guys), alcohol and bongo parties... This guy's a total douche, speaks acts like a total retard. The question people should really ask is how someone like him is the CEO of a company like Microsoft.

To the OP: "We also can't believe"; "We are not even going", you're making it sound like it's unanimous, it's your opinion not everyone else s. Very poorly written and opinionated article. Quite... unprofessional, I guess that's the word. If you were aiming for that, congrats you did a very nice job.

a question or two:
do you know the real sales of windows 8 and surface tablets?
or are you just looking at those rumors or pulling it out of your arse?

What about Tim Cook?
he is destroying what Steve Jobs made, by releasing uninteresting products, pricy, and non innovetive, algo thanks to that the shares have come down so low, i remembered when it was around 700 a share, look at them now and you thing Ballmer is doing Bad?
4 million Windows 8 copies sold in 4 days, every one that has used the system arround me got ussed to it and loves it, hell, i even started alone with windows phone and now ive got like 10% of my friendships with WP, and they just started selling those devices 3 weeks ago in my country.... I can say he is doing ground breaking job for the future it had to come or else in 10 years MS wouldnt have been abble to withstand competititon, thanks to him we have modern in PC's and Mobile devices.

Anarkii said,
he deserves to be number 1.
The failure of Windows 8, the horrible sales of Surface speak volumes.
He single-handedly is responsible for killing Microsoft.

Microsoft need a visionary like Bill Gates as the head and FAST. Before Ballmer kills Microsoft.

Anarkii said,
he deserves to be number 1.
The failure of Windows 8, the horrible sales of Surface speak volumes.
He single-handedly is responsible for killing Microsoft.

So a product that in two months has totally surpassed all the Macs in use is a failure?

Are you suggesting that Apple shuts down their OS X and Mac production as well, because in 30 years it cannot compete with an OS two months old?

Idiot...

Anarkii said,
he deserves to be number 1.
The failure of Windows 8, the horrible sales of Surface speak volumes.
He single-handedly is responsible for killing Microsoft.

Yeah and you single-handedly proved you're an idiot. So what Windows 8 sales are slow. Number of reasons. As stated, WIndows sales had been dropping ebven after Windows 7 appeared as far as PC sales in general. Tablets are the hot item right now. Windows Phone 8 jumps into a market where 70% is owned by Android and 15% by Apple, with everyone else coming in. Convincing someone with a top teir Android device that has all the bells and whistles to buy a high quality limited device that isnt an iPhone isnt going to happen.

Even though I like Windows Phone, it cant do what my GS3 and GN2 can do even at the same price point.

Windows 8 is moving yes a bit slow. Think why. First off you had XP users who simply didnt want to give it up especially not for Vista. Windows 7 changed that. After just buying a Windows 7 PC that is perfect, why move to 8? Windows 8 requires buying new hardware if u want to take full advantage. You must buy a touchsreen PC in order to use the Metro UI. Sure you can use a mouse and keyboard, but it sucks. I had Windows 8 on my laptop, but I went back to 7 and just kept 8 at my desktop. The only reason I didnt put it back to 7 is I didnt want the chore of installing everythign again.

If you get a PC with 8 installed its fine. But if you just bought a Windows 7 PC within the past 2 years, you dont feel like spending more money for new hardware just so u can touch the screen.

The other issue is, MS didnt have enough Surface units to spread to other retailers for sales, thus making the slaes numbers seem slower. The PC OEM's also figured no one would want Windows 8 and they too were slow to bring new hardware, Now hey are all rushing to catch uo because the demand is actually higher than the supply. Dell even expressed that as FACT...not FICTION.

It is amazing how stupid Greenburg is and you can join him at 2nd place. At least he gets paid to be stupid and you're doing it for free. Looks liek he has you beat. Microsoft is still profitable. His moves may have been slower, but their were reasons for it. But theose other CEO's are certainly doing much worse. RIM is loosing money by the minute...how much has MS lost? NONE.

Grow up you Microsoft hter. I thought John the article writer was a heter too. However at least this time he is defending Microsoft and he is 100% right in everythign he said. FOr all the idiots who gave you all the likes, they are just as stupid as you are.