“Steve Jobs simply hates Eric Schmidt”

Image Credit: Daniel Adel of the New York Times

The New York Times has run a piece that details out the long history between Apple and Google. Up until a few years ago, Apple and Google were inseparable and Google’s products where the shinning star on the iPhone (maps and search) but as of late, they cant even look each other in the eye. 

Over the past few years Google has crossed Apple and its becoming quite clear that Steve Jobs is not happy about the situation.  Google, according to Steve Jobs, has encroached in to many areas that Apple now competes, namely the Android OS. 

When Steve Jobs caught wind that Google would be creating Android for the mobile platform, he did not want them to include multi-touch.  By doing so, Steve said that he would sue Google, and thus, we have the Apple vs HTC lawsuit. 

There are also a few other spats, such that Google bought up AdMob after Apple had already performed a due diligence on the company.  Apple wanted to get into the mobile advertisement market but Google bought up their first choice, causing Apple to buy up Quattro Wireless, a rival mobile advertiser. 

Steve Jobs has also flung the proverbial poo at Google too, at a recent meeting Steve called the ‘Don’t be Evil’ motto of Google as “bullshit”.  And, as reported by CNBC, many have said that “Steve Jobs simply hates Eric Schmidt”.

So what does this all come down too?  It shows the Google is getting bigger by the day, Steve fears that Google actually has the brand image to severely hurt Apple, and that Microsoft, for the time being, is out of the cross hairs of Apple. 

Will we ever see the end of the feud that will allow Apple to become good friends with Google again?  Probably not, with a browser, an OS platform, a mobile OS platform, mobile advertising, and a few other areas that cross Apple’s path, the two are more enemies than friends.

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There is always an alliance that's more beneficial to one party more than the other.
Google is marketing a phone that is open and basically you can do near enough what you want with, when compared to the iphone.

Now people have been begging this sort of openness for the iphone and Apple have blocked and actively pursued the bugs that have been used to make it more open.

Is its Google's fault they have looked at the market, seen a demand and are trying to fill it, I am sure Apple have not looked at the market and what people want, they have looked at the market and built a product that fills some of the demand but massively misses out on the majority of it.

I can see android taking off as it will build and build in time, as more people move to it, and make software, mods and so forth available, that will not invalidate there warranty.

As to the alliance everything was fine and dandy when Apple had the upper hand, now that could possibly be taken away, they will do there utmost to block the end user getting the best out of what could be made available to the market place.

As to all these patent issues, I think some issues like how many finger you use to enter information or interact with a GUI should be dropped, these are stupid patents to me, the technology is to generic, and has been the stuff of scifi movies for a long time, you cant say that dragging something on screen with your finger can possibly stand up as a patentable idea is dumb. Using two fingers or even four fingers to re-size things is just plain obvious, now the algorithms used could be patented but that would leave Apple or anyone else who patented use of a phone using 2 fingers unable to sue anyone in future.

Man I wish I had patented the use of one finger touch dialing, I would be rolling in it.

yellowperil said,

Man I wish I had patented the use of one finger touch dialing, I would be rolling in it.

Only if you could afford defending it... The little guys get beat up and litigated to the point of nonexistence in these patent suits...

One of the big failures of the current patent system.

When is a CEO of one company going to love a CEO of another company when they compete with each other? Jesus articles like this seem to be written by 10 year olds. Jobs wants everything to be Apple. Schmidt wants Google. Hardly rocket science. Apple and Google are going to cross swords many times now that Google has Andriod and the Nexus One. Google is a popular brand and is a bigger threat to Apple than Microsoft or anyone else is. Apple know that Google will release an iPad like device running Android or Google OS and that will be their biggest rival.

That image is just awesome. The whole multi-touch patent thing is terrible for the consumers. Multi-touch and gestures for mobile devices should become as common place as keyboard and mouse for desktops. Steve Jobs needs to let this one go.

The patent system is really hurting the consumers more than it is protecting original IP for a company.

Shadrack said,
Steve Jobs needs to let this one go.

Because shareholders would like this? Good way to lose your job as a CEO. Simply backing down is not exactly an option when it comes to defending a patent that can make you tons of money. It's business.

Adamb10 said,
What company ISNT afraid of google?

Yeah. And I think they're beginning to realize that even as a business partner they can't trust them... Mozilla learned this the hard way too...

M_Lyons10 said,

Yeah. And I think they're beginning to realize that even as a business partner they can't trust them... Mozilla learned this the hard way too...

But clearly Apple is the evil one in all this.

This is a shame as in the past Apple and Google have worked quite well together, so in my view them becoming enemies like Apple and Microsoft are is bad news for the consumer. What we need is good products and inter-operate with each other, the iPhone was a good example of this as it pulled a lot of content down from Google.

J400uk said,
This is a shame as in the past Apple and Google have worked quite well together, so in my view them becoming enemies like Apple and Microsoft are is bad news for the consumer. What we need is good products and inter-operate with each other, the iPhone was a good example of this as it pulled a lot of content down from Google.
Apple and MS are competitors in some common fields but they also work together in a lot of other fields and even have agreements to share certain patents etc.

While a lot of Apple fans might not want to admit it, Apple owes a lot to MS. Apple wasn't always the big powerful company it is today and MS did come to give them a hand (maybe in an attempt to look better for their anti trust issues they had at the time)

Rudy said,
Apple and MS are competitors in some common fields but they also work together in a lot of other fields and even have agreements to share certain patents etc.

While a lot of Apple fans might not want to admit it, Apple owes a lot to MS. Apple wasn't always the big powerful company it is today and MS did come to give them a hand (maybe in an attempt to look better for their anti trust issues they had at the time)

True.

"the two are more enemies than friends."

Common, they're not enemies, they're rivals, BIG difference. What a way to attract the readers....

Steve Jobs seems to hate everyone these days. His attitude about others and his own company has lost me as a customer.

rkenshin said,
Steve Jobs seems to hate everyone these days. His attitude about others and his own company has lost me as a customer.

It is very clear from your comment that you don't have a clue about business.

And you now Apple will do an ad soon with "Hello I'm a Mac, and I'm 'not a Mac'", with the "Not a Mac" guy sporting a big "G" on his t-shirt.

TonyLock said,
Software patents suck. They should be made illegal.

Well, the patent system needs to be completely reworked for software...

I think that instead of slating Adobe for the fact that the Mac version of Flash sucks he should be helping them get Flash working properly.

It's not like Apple has a replacement for Flash, unlike MS, who have Silverlight!!!

neo158 said,
I think that instead of slating Adobe for the fact that the Mac version of Flash sucks he should be helping them get Flash working properly.

It's not like Apple has a replacement for Flash, unlike MS, who have Silverlight!!!

Apple isn't invluding flash in the iPhone and MaxiPad for one reason and that's because it will allow people to get stuff for free not on the apple app store.

The kak they spout about it being a memory and battery hog is irrelevant. It's sijply because they have to have something to blame for not including it.

Unplugged said,

Apple isn't invluding flash in the iPhone and MaxiPad for one reason and that's because it will allow people to get stuff for free not on the apple app store.

The kak they spout about it being a memory and battery hog is irrelevant. It's sijply because they have to have something to blame for not including it.

I think that's the case as well... Why would you not allow Adobe access to API's and then complain that it doesn't use hardware acceleration?

I love the iPhone right now but I welcome competitors phones. Keeps Apple on their toes.
Google's products and services are just awesome.

eh?.

Sequoia Capital own a big part of Apple and Sequoia Capital is the de-facto owner of Google

So, this fight is simply ridiculous and pointless.

Maybe if Apple had been a little less short sighted and put the iphone out to the masses on any carrier that would sell it maybe there wouldnt be so many people trying to take it down a notch.The irony of this Iphone thing is by the time they release it to the masses there will probably be countless IPhone clones floating around. So rather than Apple making a super duper sh!tload of money like they could have had when they had the jump on everyone,they are going to have to settle for a sh!tload.Sucks to be them I guess. LOL

ahhell said,
Steve Jobs hates anyone that isn't Steve Jobs.

What a ridiculous ill-informed comment. Steve Jobs is the CEO of Apple, and is therefore responsible for making their shareholders money. If Apple has a patent on a technology (no matter how ridiculous we think the patent may be), it is up to Jobs to make sure that their patent is protected (both as a matter of public opinion, and a matter of law). It is not a matter of hatred. Its a matter of business.

Haven't Apple patented the names of multitouch like say pinch to zoom, two finger gestures, the way it's advertised etc. Anyone else can do multitouch but they can't specially call it the same as what Apple calls it. I'm sure it's something totally daft like that.

WooHoo!!! said,
Haven't Apple patented the names of multitouch like say pinch to zoom, two finger gestures, the way it's advertised etc. Anyone else can do multitouch but they can't specially call it the same as what Apple calls it. I'm sure it's something totally daft like that.

i also have two finger gestures ...

timster said,

i also have two finger gestures ...

If we can't use two finger gestures without being sued I have a 1 finger gesture they might approve of a little more.

hynesy said,

If we can't use two finger gestures without being sued I have a 1 finger gesture they might approve of a little more.

Don't sue me! I used this one finger gesture quite a bit yesterday while driving.

Synapics had multi touch back in the early 90's... I still fail to see how apple patented an idea that they already had a patent on...

ah, blissful competition...personal or business...as an investor and a consumer i can only say - keep it up guys..

thealexweb said,
There is an upside to this it may push Microsoft and Apple closer together.

Not likely. Especially with Steve Jobs at the helm, who just seems to enjoy ****ing off other people. He just can't play fair can he? The only way he can compete is by trashing other companies products in ridiculous ads and publicity stunts.

Not really, with Microsoft coming up with a much better solution to the iPhone compared to Android, I think Apple hates them right now. They have an entire solution ready, Bing is a decision engine, and they use that. They have a market place, better developer tools. Now they also have Xbox support. All this stuff is sure to beat the iPhone in the ass.

Nick Brunt said,

Not likely. Especially with Steve Jobs at the helm, who just seems to enjoy ****ing off other people. He just can't play fair can he? The only way he can compete is by trashing other companies products in ridiculous ads and publicity stunts.

Boo hoo, he can't play fair. Quick, run and tell the teacher!

No could see this happen. Corporate alliances are simply made for the purpose of securing a company with a better role in the market. An example would be the IBM, Apple and Motorola alliance to bring forward the Power PC. I was not all that successful... but what one needs to remember is that in 1984 Apple and IBM were mortal enemies.

I would see Microsoft and Apple come together. It almost certainly would involve at least one other company for oversight. They really would have very little to loose by this. Their products compliment each other very well, though of course there would be a lot of overall lap. I for one would not mind actually having them make available Cocoa for Windows. It would make a neat subsystem. Further, maybe we could finally get a true Unix subsystem... on every version of Windows.

As for Google. They are as the media likes to portray them, the next wave. This doesn't mean that they will be successful in the long run (many decades), but it looks as if they will at this point. By themselves Google is not very big, but if they were to develop an alliance with others willy to disrupt their version of Linux "Android OS" them could have a number of tech companies at their feet.

Finally, one need not look past the fact that Google is the internet (for many people). It is their search engine of choice. It is their application platform of choice. It is the host of much information. For most, there really is no alternative... the only reasonable one being Bing/Yahoo!.

hotdog963al said,
^^ Better only in your opinion, we'll see in time whether it's successful or not

Obviously it is his opnion he stated it.

I think Microsoft ha some great momentum going here. If Google and Apple battle it out, perhaps Microsoft can come in and steal the show.

Electric Jolt said,
Not really, with Microsoft coming up with a much better solution to the iPhone compared to Android, I think Apple hates them right now. They have an entire solution ready, Bing is a decision engine, and they use that. They have a market place, better developer tools. Now they also have Xbox support. All this stuff is sure to beat the iPhone in the ass.

I'm afraid you failed to read that WP7 is going to be using IE7/8 as its web browser. Also, the control toolkit available for WP7 development might be easier to learn than view controller hierarchies in iPhone development but i bet wp7 apps will just be less productive. Better 3D acceleration? Maybe wp7 has it but 3d games aren't that great on touch based OS anyhow. I feel like MS is just slapping different technologies together while hoping it holds together as usual.

ObiWanToby said,

Obviously it is his opnion he stated it.

I think Microsoft ha some great momentum going here. If Google and Apple battle it out, perhaps Microsoft can come in and steal the show.

I hate how you have to explicitly state something that is CLEARLY opinion on here as such or else you get attacked by someone (Who's position by the way is ALSO opinion)... LOL

tomjol said,

Boo hoo, he can't play fair. Quick, run and tell the teacher!

Lol...If you were being fair, then apple would be the whiny kid running to the teacher.

Remember when they sued Microsoft over the laptop hunter ads?

Apple is like a bully with self esteem issues, the minute you stand up to him, he runs away crying.