Steve Wozniak calls Apple arrogant

 

 

 

Co-founder of Apple Steve Wozniak has expressed his feelings about Apple's approach to the iPhone 5, calling it "arrogant."

In an interview with South African tech site TechCentral Woz said,

Part of me wishes Apple had not been so, kind of, arrogant and feeling like ‘we’re the only one with the right clue. I wish [Apple] had made wider versions — a small and a large version of the iPhone.

This shouldn't come as much of a surprise as Wozniak hasn't stopped himself from criticising Apple in the past, he has even openly admitted to respecting and owning Android devices.

He added,

I think Apple tricked itself by saying 'Oh, you can reach everything with one thumb.' And I don't see anybody having trouble using the larger screens...But Apple said that as a defensive move because everyone else had larger screens.

Steve Wozniak formed Apple Computer in 1976 with Steve Jobs after quitting his job at Hewlett Packard. He invented the Apple I and the Apple II computer, which both contributed significantly to the microcomputer revolution. While Wozniak isn't employee of Apple anymore, he is currently still a shareholder.

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I don't have ANY issues using the 5" screen on my Galaxy Note.
I PREFER to use both hands. Why? Because I can't use it WHILE DRIVING my car.
I keeps me from texting while driving. Also, using BOTH HANDS, I have a 99%
greater chance of NOT dropping it.
If you like iPhones, or small screens, more power to you, but I prefer the LARGER
screen.

But I can reach everything on my iPhone 5 with one thumb. So why does Woz appear to have a problem with Apple claiming that people can?

Calum said,
But I can reach everything on my iPhone 5 with one thumb. So why does Woz appear to have a problem with Apple claiming that people can?

He's saying that Apple say that just to defend themselves as the rest of the competition have larger screens. Kind of like an excuse for not making the screen larger, if you will. Personally I can use larger screen sizes with one thumb, but just because everyone can't doesn't mean you don't make a larger phone.

drazgoosh said,

He's saying that Apple say that just to defend themselves as the rest of the competition have larger screens. Kind of like an excuse for not making the screen larger, if you will. Personally I can use larger screen sizes with one thumb, but just because everyone can't doesn't mean you don't make a larger phone.


Ah, I understand now. Thanks I thought he was saying that Apple were making excuses for actually making the iPhone 5's screen larger than the previous iPhones' screens. But yes, I would prefer the iPhone 5's screen to be even larger.

eiffel_g said,
Large screen phones have a name - tablets.
Tablets are missing something: the phone.

BTW: I wouldn't really call anything under 10" a tablet.

Tumultus said,
Tablets are missing something: the phone.

BTW: I wouldn't really call anything under 10" a tablet.

What would you call a 7 inch?

Tumultus said,
Tablets are missing something: the phone.

Really ? Don't thing so. All tablets with 3G support can make calls.
I have tested many of those. Just put a phone SIM inside.

Why he is talking after death of Steve Jobs, as all the competitors started selling out phones with bigger screens during the period of iPhone 3/3GS. Secondly, this statement comes after their split from Google and failure of Maps.

Does it looks like Apple has become more open minded/critical about its own decisions after Jobs left the world.

The large screen phones are simply awful and silly. In fact I wish Apple had kept the iPhone > iPhone 4S size, it's the one thing putting me off getting an iPhone 5. Would never buy a Galaxy or large Lumia - their colossal size just makes them impractical IMHO.

wotsit said,
The large screen phones are simply awful and silly. In fact I wish Apple had kept the iPhone > iPhone 4S size, it's the one thing putting me off getting an iPhone 5. Would never buy a Galaxy or large Lumia - their colossal size just makes them impractical IMHO.

this. although iphone 5 isn't that much larger.

Yay, a Wozniak article! Complete with all the usual haters angry that people acknowledge his existence.

Oh no, someone asked Steve a question and he answered it! BOOOOO WHO CARES WHAT HE THINKS IMA GO READ A TECH BLOG INSTEAD CUZ BLOGGER HOBBYISTS HAVE MORE CREDIBILITY THAN WOZNIAK.

I think that Apple know what they are doing, how and when. Apple do things in a very calculated and careful way and dont jump on every new technology until its proven.

Apple should be very happy with the money they are making on the range of products they already have.

If someone thinks this is arrogant, thats okay.

derekaw said,
Apple do things in a very calculated and careful way and dont jump on every new technology until its proven.

So... phones with larger, wider screens are a new and unproven technology?

As for "unproven" technologies such as NFC, if Apple announced a product that used it, it would become ubiquitous overnight.

rfirth said,

So... phones with larger, wider screens are a new and unproven technology?

As for "unproven" technologies such as NFC, if Apple announced a product that used it, it would become ubiquitous overnight.


It's not always about technology. You have to get used to a larger phone when in the last decade we've seen phones shrink in size. Apple is doing it carefully by enlarging their phone.

They simply cannot make it a lot larger, right away. It will get more time used to and many of their current clients will not support it (right away).

derekaw said,
Apple do things in a very calculated and careful way and dont jump on every new technology until its proven.

So Passbook is a proven technology? Apple maps is a proven technology?

Deniss said,

It's not always about technology. You have to get used to a larger phone when in the last decade we've seen phones shrink in size. Apple is doing it carefully by enlarging their phone.

Are you really saying Apple is protecting humankind because we can't cope with larger phones so they're doing us a favor in offering only one size? Haha. These comments are getting funnier by the day. Also regarding 'proven': The new metal-coating technique is proven. Proven to cause scratches.

Edited by dr_crabman, Oct 12 2012, 9:16am :

derekaw
Apple do things in a very calculated and careful way and dont jump on every new technology until its proven.

Yes very Apple they wait until a technology has been proven, then they claim its their great new invention, somehow get a patient for it (prior art does not seem to count when Apple applies for patients) and sue all those companies that proved it worked.

dfuk said,

Yes very Apple they wait until a technology has been proven, then they claim its their great new invention, somehow get a patient for it (prior art does not seem to count when Apple applies for patients) and sue all those companies that proved it worked.

I'd love for you to show me when and where Apple claim a technology as they invented it, because that's total fud.

Really getting bored of Woz and his ranting, I appreciate his past achievements but it's been 20+ years since he did something cool.

Make something or shut it, we are bored with you setting the world to rights.

Dynjo said,
Really getting bored of Woz and his ranting, I appreciate his past achievements but it's been 20+ years since he did something cool.

Make something or shut it, we are bored with you setting the world to rights.

And what have you made that qualifies you to give your opinion on Woz? You deserve to be able to voice your opinion, just as he deserves to give his.

Dynjo said,
Really getting bored of Woz and his ranting, I appreciate his past achievements but it's been 20+ years since he did something cool.

Make something or shut it, we are bored with you setting the world to rights.

So it is what have you done for me lately?

Do you think 20-30 years later automatically degrades his mental acuity? He was and still is brilliant, even if you no longer agree with him.

He is not a 'mindless' puppet that sticks to the company line and the talking points. Sadly, there are people that need that mentality and consistency to exist, where new ideas are spoon fed and anything outside their scope is irrelevant.

If you listen to brilliant people talk, there is always a place in the room for conflicting opinions. From Gates to even some of the smartest high profile people in the world, like President Clinton. They can easily work with people they disagree, and are not personally threatened or shaken in their ideals by opposition.

Dynjo said,
Really getting bored of Woz and his ranting, I appreciate his past achievements but it's been 20+ years since he did something cool.

Depends on what you think is cool. Woz most definitely is a very cool dude with many interests and hobbys. Also philanthropy. And calling this 'ranting' is a bit extreme. But expected from a certain crowd.

Come on folks Apple held off making iPhone 5 wider so the the new iPhone 6 will cover that situation, thus get more people to either update or buy a new iPhone 6. . .

I think its better to stop crying over what and why apple is doing.
Apple has got a market segment to which it is successfully catering with a product that has its own features and benefits. I fail to impress my wife and parents with the Live Wallpapers and various other customization and emulation features, lets call it the "OPENNESS", of my Android device. They prefer the iPhone because its simple and lets them perform complicated tasks, to their level, very easily which I don't think they can manage in an Android device. For me iPhone is just too boring. So in the end its good that both the iPhone and Droids exist.

Liaqat_ali said,
I think its better to stop crying over what and why apple is doing.
Apple has got a market segment to which it is successfully catering with a product that has its own features and benefits. I fail to impress my wife and parents with the Live Wallpapers and various other customization and emulation features, lets call it the "OPENNESS", of my Android device. They prefer the iPhone because its simple and lets them perform complicated tasks, to their level, very easily which I don't think they can manage in an Android device. For me iPhone is just too boring. So in the end its good that both the iPhone and Droids exist.

OH MY GOD A SENSIBLE COMMENT!

Someone buy THIS man a Ale'!

As a fan of the Apple MacBook product line.I saw the iPhone 5 and laughed...I have a 4S given to me by my employer. I keep looking at it and my HTC Rezound.....My Rezound blows iPhone away and its not the newest Android phone....Arrogant....Apple...No way....LOL....

Intel008 said,
As a fan of the Apple MacBook product line.I saw the iPhone 5 and laughed...I have a 4S given to me by my employer. I keep looking at it and my HTC Rezound.....My Rezound blows iPhone away and its not the newest Android phone....Arrogant....Apple...No way....LOL....

HTC? Sounds like ish to me.

virtorio said,
I think Woz sounds like the arrogant one in this particular case.

How is he being arrogant, I think he's just being honest ...

My dad got a new iphone thinking it has a larger screen, then was surprised to find out all text is still the same size - the screen just got a little taller but not wider. He ended up giving the phone to my brother.

Apple need to get out of their bubble and make a phone with a real larger screen.. And they can add NFC and apt-x while they're at it.

underthebridge said,

How is he being arrogant, I think he's just being honest ...

My dad got a new iphone thinking it has a larger screen, then was surprised to find out all text is still the same size - the screen just got a little taller but not wider. He ended up giving the phone to my brother.

Apple need to get out of their bubble and make a phone with a real larger screen.. And they can add NFC and apt-x while they're at it.

Yes, because their sales are terrible!!!!!

underthebridge said,

How is he being arrogant, I think he's just being honest ...

No, he's doing the "I say so, therefore it must be right" thing that he always does.

virtorio said,
I think Woz sounds like the arrogant one in this particular case.

Haa haa. With that comment, you have inadvertently demonstrated that you do not know the meaning of the word 'arrogant'.

Shiranui said,

Haa haa. With that comment, you have inadvertently demonstrated that you do not know the meaning of the word 'arrogant'.

Educate me.

No way. i like smaller screens. If you want bigger get the S3.

underthebridge said,

How is he being arrogant, I think he's just being honest ...

My dad got a new iphone thinking it has a larger screen, then was surprised to find out all text is still the same size - the screen just got a little taller but not wider. He ended up giving the phone to my brother.

Apple need to get out of their bubble and make a phone with a real larger screen.. And they can add NFC and apt-x while they're at it.

moloko said,
No way. i like smaller screens. If you want bigger get the S3.

Which is exactly why Steve Wozniak is saying that there should be a small and large version of the iPhone. It's not arrogance, it's a desire to have choice.

underthebridge said,

How is he being arrogant, I think he's just being honest ...

My dad got a new iphone thinking it has a larger screen, then was surprised to find out all text is still the same size - the screen just got a little taller but not wider. He ended up giving the phone to my brother.

Apple need to get out of their bubble and make a phone with a real larger screen.. And they can add NFC and apt-x while they're at it.

#

Im sorry Im not fanboy but that's utter nonsense. A real larger screen. You do know screens are measured from diagonally from corner to corner so a 4" screen is the same size to matter what angel you measure those corners at. Apple have been clever by only going vertical in regards to making the screen bigger, it allows the iPhone to be held and operated with one hand which was their initial reason for the size of the first iphone and every version since then. Im sorry but 5" phone and even 4.5" phones are like bricks in your pocket and are far too big for people with average sized hands.

Also in regards to NFC, its pointless ATM seriously, if your in the UK isnt used any where, yes it will catch on but not for a good few years, once its adopted nationally and globally they will add it. I just dont get why people want features that are redundant because of the off chance they may get to use it.

rfirth said,
Which is exactly why Steve Wozniak is saying that there should be a small and large version of the iPhone. It's not arrogance, it's a desire to have choice.

The only problem is that Wozniak acts as arrogant himself.

Why only Apple? Does Samsung has a top range S or M size? No. Moto, LG, HTC? No. Only L and XL. But Apple at least has a top range M size.

Richard Cousins said,
#

Im sorry Im not fanboy but that's utter nonsense. A real larger screen. You do know screens are measured from diagonally from corner to corner so a 4" screen is the same size to matter what angel you measure those corners at. Apple have been clever by only going vertical in regards to making the screen bigger, it allows the iPhone to be held and operated with one hand which was their initial reason for the size of the first iphone and every version since then. Im sorry but 5" phone and even 4.5" phones are like bricks in your pocket and are far too big for people with average sized hands.

Also in regards to NFC, its pointless ATM seriously, if your in the UK isnt used any where, yes it will catch on but not for a good few years, once its adopted nationally and globally they will add it. I just dont get why people want features that are redundant because of the off chance they may get to use it.

NFC is used in a lot of places in the UK Subway and McDonalds are two places I can think of immediately as my friend frequently uses his NFC enabled Google Nexus phone

virtorio said,
I think Woz sounds like the arrogant one in this particular case.

I disagree, but even if he was being arrogant, HE HAS EARNED THAT RIGHT.

This is not Jobs, this is the person that actually BUILT the first Apple Computers, and is truly a genius. I am not a fan of Apple, but I have ALWAYS been a fan of Woz.

Taking shots at Woz shows a lack of history and illustrates how a conflicting viewpoint is not allowed in your thinking.

I bet you would have been one of the people talking smack about Einstein and Tesla when they didn't agree with your 'view' of the world.

rfirth said,

Which is exactly why Steve Wozniak is saying that there should be a small and large version of the iPhone. It's not arrogance, it's a desire to have choice.

Choice...Apple? You do realize Apple users have no choice or say in anything Apple. Apple strictly dictates what the iPhone is, and the user can either buy it or not. This is the exact opposite in the Android world, and even the Windows Phone world.

tsupersonic said,
Choice...Apple? You do realize Apple users have no choice or say in anything Apple. Apple strictly dictates what the iPhone is, and the user can either buy it or not. This is the exact opposite in the Android world, and even the Windows Phone world.

Well that's not exactly true. With Apple, people get one phone per year. With Android, people get 4,364 phones per year. So it only appears like user is "dictating" the market. When in reality, it's just a litter of phones which equates to variety.

underthebridge said,

My dad got a new iphone thinking it has a larger screen, then was surprised to find out all text is still the same size - the screen just got a little taller but not wider. He ended up giving the phone to my brother.

Even if the screen had been wider (the iPhone 5 screen is physically bigger than the iPhone 4 screen...), the text would have stayed the same size.

Larger screen =! larger fonts

Astra.Xtreme said,

Well that's not exactly true. With Apple, people get one phone per year. With Android, people get 4,364 phones per year. So it only appears like user is "dictating" the market. When in reality, it's just a litter of phones which equates to variety.

So, you just basically paraphrased what I said, and make it sound like the variety of Android phones is a bad thing. Whatever works for you....As a consumer, I want choice in hardware - for example, buying a computer/car, you have many choices in each class.

Keep in mind, before smartphones were as popular as they are, we had so many choices in dumphones. Apple = think different = one phone for our company = no choice. Of course, that's not to say there isn't an advantage to this model.

tsupersonic said,
So, you just basically paraphrased what I said, and make it sound like the variety of Android phones is a bad thing. Whatever works for you....As a consumer, I want choice in hardware - for example, buying a computer/car, you have many choices in each class.

Keep in mind, before smartphones were as popular as they are, we had so many choices in dumphones. Apple = think different = one phone for our company = no choice. Of course, that's not to say there isn't an advantage to this model.

Well you were claiming that the customers are dictating what Android phones are offered, when that isn't exactly true. And that was my point, since there is one of everything in the Android world. It's not exactly a bad thing, but it does lead to fragmentation and a short life-span (update support). It would be neat if Apple offered an iPhone with a big and small screen, but their business model now isn't bad. They have the highest sales, so that kind of speaks for itself.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Well you were claiming that the customers are dictating what Android phones are offered, when that isn't exactly true. And that was my point, since there is one of everything in the Android world. It's not exactly a bad thing, but it does lead to fragmentation and a short life-span (update support). It would be neat if Apple offered an iPhone with a big and small screen, but their business model now isn't bad. They have the highest sales, so that kind of speaks for itself.

Ah, ok. I see what you're saying. I didn't mean it like that - I'm just saying customers have more choice when it comes to Android, and Windows phones, because there is a variety. No, customers really don't have a way of dictating what phones can be offered. Also, in the Android community, you can always update to the latest/greatest version of OS through ROM's. 95% of the users would probably be happy without software updates. These average consumers wouldn't bother with rooting/ROM's and that sort of stuff. But, yeah, you can't argue with the sales numbers between both platforms.

Astra.Xtreme said,

Well you were claiming that the customers are dictating what Android phones are offered, when that isn't exactly true. And that was my point, since there is one of everything in the Android world. It's not exactly a bad thing, but it does lead to fragmentation and a short life-span (update support). It would be neat if Apple offered an iPhone with a big and small screen, but their business model now isn't bad. They have the highest sales, so that kind of speaks for itself.

Is this comparable to how Bugatti only has three models?
The Veyron
The Veyron Gransport (Convertible version)
The Veyron Supersports (Fastest in the world version)

And how Ford currently has 24 different models (that I could could in the ALL section of their USA site).

MidTxWRX said,

Is this comparable to how Bugatti only has three models?
The Veyron
The Veyron Gransport (Convertible version)
The Veyron Supersports (Fastest in the world version)

And how Ford currently has 24 different models (that I could could in the ALL section of their USA site).

Errr, I'm not quite sure what your point is. We are talking about phones here. Plus a Bugatti is a $1M+ car and Ford sells cars in the $12-50k range.

virtorio said,

No, he's doing the "I say so, therefore it must be right" thing that he always does.
Apparently he's giving an opinion. Besides that, you can't really accuse him of not knowing what he's talking about though can you?

ILikeTobacco said,
According to everyone on this site, if Apple made an iPhone mini of sorts, the product would fail.

The iPhone mini exists. It's called the iPhone.