Still no new news about IE10 for Windows 7 yet

IE10 goodness is available exclusively on Windows 8 at the moment.

Back in June we attempted to find out when Internet Explorer would make an appearance on Windows 7, but Microsoft remained tight-lipped and would offer no indication of when this would happen.

Two months on, and we're still no closer to finding out.

What we do know is that Microsoft is committed to bringing IE10 to Windows 7 as well, but has not provided any updates to this commitment for some time. The last "Platform Preview" that could be used in Windows 7 was released back in June 2011, since then the third and fourth previews have only been available exclusively for Windows 8.

On Wednesday Microsoft released an update to IE (version 9.0.9) via Windows Update and blogged about it; nothing in the post talked about IE10 and if the same issues also affected it in the Release Preview or RTM, the latter being made available to MSDN and TechNet users on the same day.

People who asked when IE10 would be made available for Windows 7 in the comments went unanswered.

Microsoft also recently posted up a new KB article on the availability of IE10 which states:

Note Internet Explorer 10 is included in Windows 8. It is not available for Windows 7 or earlier versions

As pointed out here in our forums and here, IE10 will eventually be made available for Windows 7, we just don't know when!

View: Microsoft KB Article on IE10 availability

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Raa said,
To say IE10 IS coming for Win7 isn't very accurate - Microsoft might change their mind?

People won't like it if their still fully supported OS got dumped because MS wants to sell everyone a new one. These days it seems like Microsoft doesn't much care about making people mad though. They still have their monopoly and they know they can get away with whatever they want.

Raa said,
To say IE10 IS coming for Win7 isn't very accurate - Microsoft might change their mind?
It is coming, just a matter of When.
The first few beta's of IE10 ran on Win7. But for now Win7 is lacking some OS functions IE10 requires. However they'll backport these somehow give it some time.

i dont get all this bitching about browser speeds. really, if there is a speed difference,how big ,or I should say,how small is it? I think pretty much all of us who are passionate about computers have a fast enough computer that browser speed differences don't mean anything.

I use and always have used IE and it runs and works beautifully.

ogamawab said,
Why would you need IE10 when we have Google chrome.

ThePitt said,
internet explorer, the browser most used to download other browsers

Sheesh! How's that for a couple of totally unthought out, no originality, fanboy type answers?

Personally,
I think IE10 should've already been released for Windows 7 and work on it from there. As it is, IE9 already blows Google Chrome and all those "other" browsers anyway!

cork1958 said,

Sheesh! How's that for a couple of totally unthought out, no originality, fanboy type answers?

Personally,
I think IE10 should've already been released for Windows 7 and work on it from there. As it is, IE9 already blows Google Chrome and all those "other" browsers anyway!


This,
in realtime speeds. IE9 is still ALLOT faster then any of its competitors.
It is also ALLOT more secure then any of its competitors.
It also supports addons made for IE6 and up.
etc.etc.etc.

Shadowzz said,

This,
in realtime speeds. IE9 is still ALLOT faster then any of its competitors.
It is also ALLOT more secure then any of its competitors.
It also supports addons made for IE6 and up.
etc.etc.etc.

I agree, it really is a pretty good browser. I'm still using an alternative browser and have been for years, but I like the direction IE has been headed in and am looking forward to trying out IE10 for Windows 7.

ogamawab said,
Why would you need IE10 when we have Google chrome.

Same thing can be said about chrome, why the hell you would need it. when you have Firefox,Opera,SeaMonkey and eventually IE 10 For Win 7.

We're already breaking our standards and allowing Firefox. IE9 cannot do HTML5 and HTML5 apps are picking up steam even it its current state.

MS wants to drive Win 8 adoption so they may be slow to bring IE10 to Win 7, but if they don't they will lose big.

Studio384 said,
Everyone that loves privacy.

And everyone that doesn't want to be constantly tricked into thinking his browser is faster.

Just so you know mate, In realtime speeds, Chrome is SLOWER then IE9 already. It fakes this 'faster' speeds by constantly preloading pages it anticipates what you do. Considering people are used to their bandwidth limits, and also allot of websites do not have allot of bandwidth. This technique is wasting so incredibly much resources (not just your own) its not even funny. And highly discouraged!

Chrome users are wasting the internet, faking internet results (suprisingly that since these preloading features where implemented, after they rose somewhere around 10% in usage in just a few eeks).

Adding to this, Chrome is actively unbalancing the internet by pushing non W3 standards through. Creating a similar situation as first browser war of IE vs Netscape. This is not a good thing. Chrome's hardware rendering for example isnt really Chrome's hardware rendering, they're using a non W3 standard to attempt to reach IE9 speeds.

But keep using your Chrome, have all your data phoned home (websites you surf, content of these pages, how long you stay here, what you do there, how often you are there, what times... everything is logged and tracked.

It was my understanding that IE10 isn't available for Windows 7 because it requires OS-level features like Web Sockets support. This will have to be added to Windows 7 through a feature/service pack before IE10 can be released for it.

Ace said,
Don't you mean Vista?

No, I mean Windows 7.

Windows 8 implements Web Sockets support as an integrated part of the network stack. IE 10 takes advantage of this support instead of reimplementing Web Sockets in the browser. This is great because Web Sockets are available to all applications, not just web apps, but it also means that until Web Sockets support is added to Windows 7 or they refactor it into a special version of IE you won't see IE 10 for Windows 7.

JonathanMarston said,
It was my understanding that IE10 isn't available for Windows 7 because it requires OS-level features like Web Sockets support. This will have to be added to Windows 7 through a feature/service pack before IE10 can be released for it.

The problem is ... Chrome/Firefox already support web sockets ... even on XP/7... so don't pull this **** that IE10 cannot support Web sockets on 7 because it's implemented on a OS level in Win8. You can say maybe that MS does not WANT to release IE10 on Win7. A stupid idea, typically Microsoft blocking updates for users that paid money for their OS...... Good lord I didn't.........

Mortis said,
**RANT**

Ah, so you'd prefer that Microsoft didn't integrate standards support at an OS level and make it available to everyone? You're right, it's much better that 3rd party developers reimplement Web Sockets each and every time they write their apps...

IE10 is coming to Windows 7. Microsoft has stated this multiple times. I was just pointing out that there are real, technical reasons why it isn't available now. They can't simply push a big, red "make IE10 run on Windows 7" button. Sure, they could modify IE10 for Windows 7 to include Web Sockets baked in (like your beloved Chrome/Firefox), but there are long-term advantages to the way MS is doing it.

torrentthief said,
I wonder if they will integrate flash player in IE10 for win7 like they did with win8.
Flash Player isn't build in in Internet Explorer 10, it's build in in Windows 8.

It makes no difference. All 630 million users running Windows 7 will leap at the chance to fork over $40 to get Win 8. It's that good!

rdmiller said,
It makes no difference. All 630 million users running Windows 7 will leap at the chance to fork over $40 to get Win 8. It's that good!

Wishful thinking. Of course, its a great value, I personally have it running on my laptop and I have been running the previews for the past 12 months. The thing is, you are not loosing out sticking with Windows 7 either and I am sure the millions of businesses that are in the middle of deploying Windows 7 now are not gonna be leaving that project just have Windows 8.

Mr. Dee said,

Wishful thinking. Of course, its a great value, I personally have it running on my laptop and I have been running the previews for the past 12 months. The thing is, you are not loosing out sticking with Windows 7 either and I am sure the millions of businesses that are in the middle of deploying Windows 7 now are not gonna be leaving that project just have Windows 8.

Have to agree there. I run it on my laptop, will probably own a Windows 8 tablet soon but I don't think my work laptop/workstation will be moving away from Windows 7 anytime soon. As long as I have Visual Studio 2012, .NET Framework 4/4.5 on Windows 7 then I'm good to go (and Microsoft knows this hence why there is no doubt Visual Studio and .NET Framework were being made available for Windows 7).

PaCpiS said,
IE10 will be available for windows 7 after october 26, i.e after Windows 8 launch.

Likely will be, since I am remembering when Microsoft launched Windows XP in 2001, they announced Internet Explorer for Windows 2000 and Windows 9x like a week after.

PaCpiS said,
IE10 will be available for windows 7 after october 26, i.e after Windows 8 launch.
I don't think they are going to wait so long. IE versions ar always earlier available than the OS they come whit (like IE7 and Vista, like IE6 and XP)

Switched to Chrome some years back now, and I can't say I ever looked back.. Chrome is fast and very minimalistic and I love that about it

I have considered switching to IE10 on Windows 8 numerous times, but it just seems to me that Chrome is a bit faster and I prefer general usability of it as well.

drazgoosh said,
I have considered switching to IE10 on Windows 8 numerous times, but it just seems to me that Chrome is a bit faster and I prefer general usability of it as well.

I live in a rural area and I am on GPRS at 5 kbs per sec. Trust me, Internet Explorer is faster than both Chrome and Firefox.

drazgoosh said,
I have considered switching to IE10 on Windows 8 numerous times, but it just seems to me that Chrome is a bit faster and I prefer general usability of it as well.

Its not faster, it just starts loading pages before you go there. Firefox does the same.
If they think you will click some link on the page, it'll already start preloading it.
Chrome also applies this when you start entering a website in the urlbar.

IE however, wont load untill you tell it to. Which is one thing I personally aprove. It also shows the real times the pages load in, and even with all of Chrome's preloading, it is barely (if any) faster then IE9 already, let alone IE10.

I like the speed and the look of ie, but i wish we could get a little more customization with it. Like ad-block, etc or custom themes. they put that and i make ie my primary browser.

aviator189 said,
I like the speed and the look of ie, but i wish we could get a little more customization with it. Like ad-block, etc or custom themes. they put that and i make ie my primary browser.

Internet Explorer has ad-block built-in. You don't need a plugin for that.

aviator189 said,
I like the speed and the look of ie, but i wish we could get a little more customization with it. Like ad-block, etc or custom themes. they put that and i make ie my primary browser.

You can have ad-block like with add-ons, selecting EasyList for the Tracking Protection

PaCpiS said,

You can have ad-block like with add-ons, selecting EasyList for the Tracking Protection

It might have it built in, but it is no where as good as in FireFox or Chrome.

Somnus said,

It might have it built in, but it is no where as good as in FireFox or Chrome.


No its better by far.
It supports the same adblock plus lists as for FF/Chrome, it blocks them properly like adblock plus does in FF, but fails to do so in Chrome.

Also its smart, its self learning. You wouldn't need any lists, just enable your own and after a while, less and less ads start apearing on the websites you visit, untill after a short while.... no ads show up pretty much anywhere.

Internet Explorer 10 is available for Windows 8 and Windows Server 2012, and is expected to be released for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-u...y/ie/hh673549(v=vs.85).aspx

Says enough. Not? I think we get Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 this month or in september (15? Same date as the Internet Explorer 9 bèta). I think Microsoft is now porting Internet Explorer 10 to Windows 7, and that just thakes time.

And I hope they presentate the first Internet Explorer 11 Platform Preview on BUILD 2012. (IE10PP1 was a month after IE9.0.0)

Studio384 said,

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-u...y/ie/hh673549(v=vs.85).aspx

Says enough. Not? I think we get Internet Explorer 10 for Windows 7 this month or in september (15? Same date as the Internet Explorer 9 bèta). I think Microsoft is now porting Internet Explorer 10 to Windows 7, and that just thakes time.

And I hope they presentate the first Internet Explorer 11 Platform Preview on BUILD 2012. (IE10PP1 was a month after IE9.0.0)


port it, the platform preview of IE10 ran on Win7

Anthonyd said,
Windows 7 SP2 will bring IE10, you can quote this.

Service pack never bring IE with it

notice how XP SP3 is bundled with IE6

What are the major differences between IE 10 (desktop version) and IE 9? I haven't really come across any? (I'm sure there are plenty, but I genuinely haven't come across any - are they under the hood changes for mainly developers?). The only one I can think of is that anti-tracking feature.

djpailo said,
What are the major differences between IE 10 (desktop version) and IE 9? I haven't really come across any? (I'm sure there are plenty, but I genuinely haven't come across any - are they under the hood changes for mainly developers?). The only one I can think of is that anti-tracking feature.

Background improvements, mostly... You won't notice, but IE10 has been truly improved. HTML5 features have been added, Javascript Engine has been improved and I think something about memory, but I'm not so sure.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_10

I hope they are not back-tracking on their decision as this will leave a ton of people on IE9 for years to come since a lot of people will be skipping Windows 8 altogether (a lot more than ever before; first version since Me I will skip as well)

Obry said,
I hope they are not back-tracking on their decision as this will leave a ton of people on IE9 for years to come since a lot of people will be skipping Windows 8 altogether (a lot more than ever before; first version since Me I will skip as well)

Another one with a crystal ball....

efjay said,

Another one with a crystal ball....

Is yours more shiny? I'm just giving out my opinion and I have the right to make assumptions.

Obry said,
I hope they are not back-tracking on their decision as this will leave a ton of people on IE9 for years to come

Your supposition makes little sense. Of course, IE10 will be released for Windows 7. It's just a question of when.

Obry said,
a lot of people will be skipping Windows 8 altogether (a lot more than ever before

Have you done a survey? Can you post the link?

Obry said,
I hope they are not back-tracking on their decision as this will leave a ton of people on IE9 for years to come since a lot of people will be skipping Windows 8 altogether (a lot more than ever before; first version since Me I will skip as well)

Its not big problem, IE9 is designed to be 'upgradeable', it can easily support new HTML standards if they want to keep this browser up to date.
However, knowing MS, they most likely wont do so, due to backwards compatibility. As a released IE does not really get functionality upgrades.

Ace said,

Your supposition makes little sense. Of course, IE10 will be released for Windows 7. It's just a question of when.

Did I say it won't be released for sure? I said I hope they're not back-tracking their decision. Thank you for the snobby reply though, moron.

Ace said,

Have you done a survey? Can you post the link?

Are you an idiot or just act like one on the Interent? Of course I haven't done a survey. These are only speculations (just like the article itself).

And speaking of surveys, have YOU done a survey to see how many people do like Windows 8? No. But you're arging about the same thing with me?

You're either stupid or a troll. Quite possibly both.

To be honest with you, I am quite happy with Internet Explorer 9 on Windows 7. The thing is, I find it strange Microsoft would ignore a market of 630 million users running Windows 7. On top of that, it would just be reflecting the companies well known backtracking attitude and ignoring cemented products and making versions of programs exclusive to a particular release to entice users to upgrade. Its pretty much what lead to the irrelevance of Internet Explorer in the Longhorn era. I remember when MS wanted to tie IE 7 to Longhorn. Mozilla Firefox used the opportunity well and we now see what happened, Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome have crept up from behind and stolen IE marketshare.

Windows 7 will be with us up to 2020 and beyond, a lot of businesses will be sticking with it and skip Windows 8, 9, 10, 11, and whatever. If you are not gonna update IE for Windows 7 and leave it at 9, watch as every business running Windows 7 over the next 10 years switches to Chrome and Firefox. Then the mea culpa from IE Team Blog post about IE 15 for Windows 7 when everybody already moved on.

All I will say is serve them right. Then again, Microsoft probably doesn't care about the browser business anymore since its a lost leader and Windows is already the dominant desktop operating system. So it really doesn't matter which web browser you are using, as long as it is Windows.

I don't know if you know, but XP didn't get IE9 'cause it was extended support, Vista won't get IE10 'cause it is now extended support. Windows 7 is still in mainstream support until 13 september, 2015. As long as an OS of Microsoft is in mainstream support, it get new features (including new versions of Internet Explorer) so be patient, IE10 for Windows 7 is on it's way. Following what I've typed here, Internet Explorer 11 will also be available for Windows 7 and whit a little bit luck, Internet Explorer 12 will be to!

Studio384 said,
I don't know if you know, but XP didn't get IE9 'cause it was extended support, Vista won't get IE10 'cause it is now extended support. Windows 7 is still in mainstream support until 13 september, 2015. As long as an OS of Microsoft is in mainstream support, it get new features (including new versions of Internet Explorer) so be patient, IE10 for Windows 7 is on it's way. Following what I've typed here, Internet Explorer 11 will also be available for Windows 7 and whit a little bit luck, Internet Explorer 12 will be to!

Did I mention anything about IE 9 not supporting Windows XP? What I said was, Windows 8 fairly new and it is likely not to achieve the market penetration like Windows 7. So, Microsoft should be ensuring that Windows 7 which has the largest market share among supported operating systems should be more transparent about supporting it. I am being patient, but at least they could inform about the status of development and possible ETA.

It is just weird to be acting like 630 million Windows 7 users don't exist or is not priority.

Mr. Dee said,

Did I mention anything about IE 9 not supporting Windows XP? What I said was, Windows 8 fairly new and it is likely not to achieve the market penetration like Windows 7. So, Microsoft should be ensuring that Windows 7 which has the largest market share among supported operating systems should be more transparent about supporting it. I am being patient, but at least they could inform about the status of development and possible ETA.

It is just weird to be acting like 630 million Windows 7 users don't exist or is not priority.

Technically, no one in the public officially has IE10 as Windows 8 hasn't been officially released, so there's no one being ignored. Instead, I think they are working on their marketing campaign to get as many people as possible to use IE.

As far as getting people to switch back from Chrome or Firefox, I think if they see IE is a good browser, they'll just start using it on their own. The number of people that complain about Firefox memory leaks is enough to have a few people try IE again (even though most will go to Chrome), and everyone will have to use IE once to install another browser when doing a fresh install.

Just about everyone used to be an IE hater, but it's actually REALLY good.

Studio384 said,
I don't know if you know, but XP didn't get IE9 'cause it was extended support, Vista won't get IE10 'cause it is now extended support. Windows 7 is still in mainstream support until 13 september, 2015. As long as an OS of Microsoft is in mainstream support, it get new features (including new versions of Internet Explorer) so be patient, IE10 for Windows 7 is on it's way. Following what I've typed here, Internet Explorer 11 will also be available for Windows 7 and whit a little bit luck, Internet Explorer 12 will be to!

lol, XP did not get IE9 due to XP not supporting security features IE9 requires, and they couldnt change XP so drastically for just a browser. Vista isnt getting IE10, since its also lacking OS support IE10 requires.
They could port them to the older OS's, running a variety of IE10 branches for security updates and fixes. On top of that, they'd have to do a boat load more work to make IE10 as safe and secure on Vista as making it so for Win7/8.

Nevermind... I was hoping to make IE10 my 'official alternative/secondary' browser, but they haven't done anything about flexibility and usability. Yes, O.K., IE10 might be modern and fast, but how do you intent to bring back Fx and Chrome users?

Anyhow, let's hope IE 11 will do something. I don't want many things: Built-in Mouse Gestures, In-line translation and a better blocking mechanism would be more than enough.

Hell, if these 3 things would be implemented, I could set IE10 as my default browser!

What I really like about IE, is that it might has less features, but whatever it already has is 'quality' feature. Everything is working flawlessly. Good Hardware Acceleration, the best scrolling without a trace of tearing, no matter if you have HWA on/off or you're on Aero/Basic mode etc.

Edited by PC EliTiST, Aug 19 2012, 2:04pm :

PC EliTiST said,
I don't want many things
I want continued speed and standards gains, but I also want a plugin architecture to support things like Flashblock and Adblock.