Study: Over one third of iPhone 4 owners think they have 4G access

If you own an iPhone 4 but know that Apple's smartphone can only connect to 3G-based wireless networks, you can considered yourself to be more enlightened than many other iPhone 4 users. According to a new study conducted by Retrevo, 34 percent of iPhone 4 users believe they own a 4G-based smartphone. In fact we may have to wait until at least 2012 for Apple to provide a phone that will use the LTE wireless networks from Verizon and AT&T.

In addition 24 percent of Blackberry owners also believe they have a 4G-based smartphone. The study states, "If nothing else this large number of 'misinformed' phone owners serves to emphasize the fact that consumers are quite confused about 4G." Indeed AT&T refers to its HSPA + service as a 4G network even as it prepares to launch its much faster LTE based network in select cities sometime this summer.

The study also asked participants if they would buy the next version of the iPhone even if it didn't support 4G wireless networks. Among current owners of the iPhone 40 percent said they would buy it anyway while another 21 percent said they would consider buying the iPhone with or without 4G support. 23 percent of Blackberry owners said they would definitely buy a new iPhone without 4G support. However just 8 percent of Android based smartphone users said they would go ahead and purchase a new iPhone without a 4G connection, indicating they seem to be happy with their Android phone.

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Yet another Apple bashing article... Go figure.

Had anyone actually read the article, it says that yes 34% of iPhone users think that way. ALSO, 29% of Android users think the same. And seeing that there are millions and millions more Android users than iPhone users, what does this tell us? Hmmm... Looks like there are a lot more Android "idiots" than anybody else out there.

And people think that Apple consumers are sheep... This is a class example of all the sheep here on Neowin that would rather ramble garbage out their mouths than use their heads.
Btw, they sampled only 1,000 people for this study, so altogether, it's useless generalization to make about the total population.

Unfortunately, most of the people that buy Apple products seem to think they are above everybody else when in reality they can't even heat up soup in the microwave.

I am not surprised. The confusing marketing by companies only increases this problem. "4G" as is currently marketed is still only 3G anyway. So technically speaking NO ONE has a 4G phone, but they are advertised as having such phones for sale by various carriers.

We can't expect the average joe to sift through what 4G means as defined by IMT-Advanced and what their carriers are selling (HSDPA variants, etc.). Hell I bet you if you asked the same question to "technical" people who purchased phones like the T-Mobile G2 they too will think they have "4G" phones.

It wouldn't be a surprise to see some people say that the capacity to save data of their iPhones is 3G or 4G (GB). It was in the old days when only the geeks had the right to have a gadget.

Lexcyn said,
Ignorance is bliss.

Not really, I use there ignorance to tell them why Android is better. I tell them run a speed test and I'll do the same. My test is better. Then I tell them this is the reason iPhone sucks. It's too slow.

Since they don't know any better, why should I explain it to them what 4G really is. I just make a better case for Android over the iPhone. LOL

UndergroundWire said,

Not really, I use there ignorance to tell them why Android is better. I tell them run a speed test and I'll do the same. My test is better. Then I tell them this is the reason iPhone sucks. It's too slow.

Since they don't know any better, why should I explain it to them what 4G really is. I just make a better case for Android over the iPhone. LOL

LOL iPhone sucks for more than just speed. Just take the lack of multitasking or the dumbed down interface. That's enough fail for one product.

PlogCF said,

LOL iPhone sucks for more than just speed. Just take the lack of multitasking or the dumbed down interface. That's enough fail for one product.

It's intuitive. Or at least that's what the iSheep say.

a lot of people confuse G which means "generation" with the generation of the phone.....

so you get 4G which is the 4th generation of wireless tech, and a 4th generation iPhone.... so people assume 4G is 4th generation...... Apple started that wreck by calling the iPhone the iPhone 3G that one time....

error404ts said,
Most people don't even know what 3G is. And 4G may as well be non-existent.

Exactly, this isnt really a case of what phone you have, more a case of "do you even care what "G" your phone is running as long as it works?"

error404ts said,
Most people don't even know what 3G is. And 4G may as well be non-existent.

I try to educate them. I show them this:

http://speedtest.net/android/67253288.png <-- To be fair, I work at JFK airport so there is a 4G tower not too far.

http://speedtest.net/android/58515857.png <-- My average reading everywhere else.

Then I tell them what they have is crap (3G or the fake 4G advertised by AT&T and T-Mobile) and walk away with a big smile on my face.

bushbrother said,

Exactly, this isnt really a case of what phone you have, more a case of "do you even care what "G" your phone is running as long as it works?"

People like me care. That was one of the reasons I went with a Thunderbolt. All other networks (except Sprint) is missing SOMETHIN.

UndergroundWire said,

I try to educate them. I show them this:

http://speedtest.net/android/67253288.png <-- To be fair, I work at JFK airport so there is a 4G tower not too far.

http://speedtest.net/android/58515857.png <-- My average reading everywhere else.

Then I tell them what they have is crap (3G or the fake 4G advertised by AT&T and T-Mobile) and walk away with a big smile on my face.

this is all you can do for most the rest are just a bunch of stupid teapots who wouldn't know left from right with technology.

Digitalx said,

this is all you can do for most the rest are just a bunch of stupid teapots who wouldn't know left from right with technology.


This is like my 10th time on this forum where I post my speed test results. Did you know I like showing it off any chance I get? LOL.

I was asking to myself how smartphone market is influenced by these mistakes and ignorance... some people, for example, told me that they will never buy a windows phone just because is too slow.

fenderMarky said,
I was asking to myself how smartphone market is influenced by these mistakes and ignorance... some people, for example, told me that they will never buy a windows phone just because is too slow.

Nice one

fenderMarky said,
I was asking to myself how smartphone market is influenced by these mistakes and ignorance... some people, for example, told me that they will never buy a windows phone just because is too slow.

Those people probably have some experience with previous versions of Windows Mobile which could be quite slow because of the lack of strict hardware requirements. I have used everything between PPC2003 and WinMo 6.1, and all of them could be slow at times, depending on the hardware and what apps you had running. That being said, I'm anxiously awaiting the arrival of my HTC HD7 today, which will be my first experience with Windows Phone 7 (other than making a call on someone's WP7 phone a couple of months ago)!

roadwarrior said,

Those people probably have some experience with previous versions of Windows Mobile which could be quite slow because of the lack of strict hardware requirements.

Those people just listen to Apple users which manage to create totally false prejudices that make no sense about other companies.

Rafyelzz said,
Nice proof of how stupid most of iPhone owners are.

Yes, since I'm sure everyone that has an iPhone are technology smart.

Rafyelzz said,
Nice proof of how stupid most of iPhone owners are.

I guess you didn't learn fractions in school? 1/3 is less than 1/2 and in order to be "most" it would have to be more than 1/2. Nice proof on how stupid most trolls are.

Rafyelzz said,
Nice proof of how stupid most of iPhone owners are.

The problem is that none of the phones on the market are 4G phones today, and there are no 4G networks anywhere. Even the LTE being deployed by the likes of Verizon and AT&T is not 4G according to IMT-Advanced specifications. Once LTE-Advanced is deployed, and there are phones that have LTE-Advanced support, only then does that count as a 4G phone running on a 4G network. Everything else is just marketing mumbo jumbo. Everyone currently has a 3G or pre-4G phone running on a 3G or pre-4G network (1X, HSPA+, WiMax, LTE, all of it).

ILikeTobacco said,

I guess you didn't learn fractions in school? 1/3 is less than 1/2 and in order to be "most" it would have to be more than 1/2. Nice proof on how stupid most trolls are.

That reply is just really naive. There also exist stupid iPhone users that know their phone doesn't have 4G, right? It just shows that at least 1/3 of the iPhone users are ignorant and less than 1/4th Blackberry users are as well.

Coi said,

That reply is just really naive. There also exist stupid iPhone users that know their phone doesn't have 4G, right? It just shows that at least 1/3 of the iPhone users are ignorant and less than 1/4th Blackberry users are as well.

He says the fact that they don't know its not 4G is the proof. In order for that one thing to prove it, it would have to be more than 1/2 thinking they have 4G. It isn't proof that most iPhone users are stupid. It is proof that some are.

Rafyelzz said,
Nice proof of how stupid most of iPhone owners are.

Nice troll...
This just goes to show how unintelligent you are. Good work...

sabrex said,

The problem is that none of the phones on the market are 4G phones today, and there are no 4G networks anywhere. Even the LTE being deployed by the likes of Verizon and AT&T is not 4G according to IMT-Advanced specifications. Once LTE-Advanced is deployed, and there are phones that have LTE-Advanced support, only then does that count as a 4G phone running on a 4G network. Everything else is just marketing mumbo jumbo. Everyone currently has a 3G or pre-4G phone running on a 3G or pre-4G network (1X, HSPA+, WiMax, LTE, all of it).

+1

Phones carriers calling it 4G, makes the everyday Joe think it is 4G.

Halfalive said,

+1

Phones carriers calling it 4G, makes the everyday Joe think it is 4G.

Well it is faster than the 3G we currently have.

SirEvan said,

my thoughts exactly.

come on that's not fair. we all know apple consumers dont know about the tech behind the devices, they just like shiny pretty things that will make them look cool

FMH said,
I cant wait for iPhone 5, it will have 5G!

Forget that. Windows Phone 7 has 7G!!! LOL

Anyway, I don't completely blame customers on this ignorance. I think Apple's distorsion field and smart use of the '3G' label to name their 'iPhone 3G' was influential in having people believe that iPhone 4 must be 4G. And carriers, they really need to be more clear about this too. AT&T 3G was advertized as having a peak speed of 7 Mbps! If we got that, we could a 720p streaming movie in our phones right now. Even with full bars, nobody can get close to 1/7 of that because the network just doesn't have the capacity. So, I'm not that thrilled about the '4G' thing because the fact that the technology allows higher speeds, it doesn't mean the carrier has the installed capacity to handle the bandwidth demand.

Charles Keledjian said,

Forget that. Windows Phone 7 has 7G!!! LOL

Anyway, I don't completely blame customers on this ignorance. I think Apple's distorsion field and smart use of the '3G' label to name their 'iPhone 3G' was influential in having people believe that iPhone 4 must be 4G.

If that was the case, Apple would have simply named it iPhone 4G instead of iPhone 4. Don't defend stupid people, they are just ignorant.

WiCkeD SaM said,

If that was the case, Apple would have simply named it iPhone 4G instead of iPhone 4. Don't defend stupid people, they are just ignorant.

Yes and no... The problem is the customer base is polluted already. Most of them probably think Apple invented the Smartphone, Touch Screens, and Apps; as can be witnessed by reading posts on Neowin alone.

Apple intentionally uses 'misdirection' as a form of their marketing manipulations. This and other manipulation techniques are a line that most other companies will not cross.

As for the iPhone 4, when Apple released it, they specifically said things to conflate the network speeds.

If you look at their marketing and their wording, you will find phrases like "Faster Surfing" "Connects Faster" etc... These are misleading, and Apple used them intentionally, and still uses them.

thenetavenger said,

Yes and no... The problem is the customer base is polluted already. Most of them probably think Apple invented the Smartphone, Touch Screens, and Apps; as can be witnessed by reading posts on Neowin alone.

Apple intentionally uses 'misdirection' as a form of their marketing manipulations. This and other manipulation techniques are a line that most other companies will not cross.

As for the iPhone 4, when Apple released it, they specifically said things to conflate the network speeds.

If you look at their marketing and their wording, you will find phrases like "Faster Surfing" "Connects Faster" etc... These are misleading, and Apple used them intentionally, and still uses them.

+a million

You sir, are the voice of reason.