Sun goes multilingual with Java SE 6

Over two years in the making, Sun Microsystems is due to release the latest version of its Java Platform Standard Edition (Java SE) software Monday, placing particular emphasis on the application development platform's support for other scripting languages. "Going multilingual is a big theme of this release," said Mark Reinhold, Sun's chief engineer for Java SE.

Sun's approach used to be that Java was the solution for all developers' problems, he said. But it has since become clear to Sun that developers want to use other languages in conjunction with Java to create hybrid applications. Sun has created a collection of scripting engines on its Web site, and Java SE 6 includes a preconfigured version of Mozilla's open-source Rhino JavaScript engine.

"Java SE 6 is an extremely significant release for us," said Jean Elliott, Sun's senior director of Java platform product marketing. She drew particular attention to community participation in the platform's development. For the first time, hundreds of non-Sun developers had some input into the Java SE development process, beginning in September 2004 as Sun released Java SE 5. One area where developers influenced the platform was their request

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Whoever is saying java is not needed, java is dead blah blah .. never heard of "Enterprise Applications" I bet.
Java kicks MS's ass in the enterprise arena.

Hurray! My college is switching to Java from C++ and I just took a course in it and I like it a lot. Hopefully version 6 will be even better.

It may be better, but I think your college is making the right choice in switching to C++. My uni teaches Java (or optionally, scheme) in first year. When it comes to taking upper year courses like OS, concurrency or real-time, people have a hard time since they didn't learn about the most basic concepts like pointers and memory management in first year.

Quote - MrA said @ #7.1
It may be better, but I think your college is making the right choice in switching to C++. My uni teaches Java (or optionally, scheme) in first year. When it comes to taking upper year courses like OS, concurrency or real-time, people have a hard time since they didn't learn about the most basic concepts like pointers and memory management in first year.

it take smore than a few crappy beans to make a good pot of coffee

I remember a time when every artible online was java. Everything was about how Java was going to save the world from the evil microsoft. How java was the great enabler and will bring about world peace.

There were Java watches and Java Pens (I still don't understand what that is). Write once run every where, Scott McNeal was everywhere saying that this will end Microsoft.


Fast forward to 2006: I get this annoying icon in my systray asking me update my JRE. And for the love of god I can't get rid of it. It just won't die....Oh, how the mighty have fallen...I wonder if Scott writes with a Java pen?

Quote - snappyfool said @ #6.1
if you can't get rid of the icon then that's your problem. it's fairly simple.

after a long battle with the demon child that is Java I finally won. It is no longer a plaque on my systray :P

I have to agree though, that it is pretty dumb for Java to place icon insystem tray by default. Eventhough it is extremely easy to remove, in my opinion java should be more as a service not as an application. But I guess Sun wants users to be aware of java presense, but Sun hurt's itself more because of this stupid icons...
In any case I am using Linux and Solaris on my computers so I do not have this problem :-P

Quote - Soleen said @ #6.3
I have to agree though, that it is pretty dumb for Java to place icon insystem tray by default. Eventhough it is extremely easy to remove, in my opinion java should be more as a service not as an application. But I guess Sun wants users to be aware of java presense, but Sun hurt's itself more because of this stupid icons...
In any case I am using Linux and Solaris on my computers so I do not have this problem :-P

wow, I didn't think that there were any of your kind around still

oh my god, an actually Linux user....I wonder what percentage of the .0005% market share are you

Quote - RedHook said @ #6.4
wow, I didn't think that there were any of your kind around still
oh my god, an actually Linux user....I wonder what percentage of the .0005% market share are you

When I am using my PC I do not care about precentage of people use the same setup as I do. I enjoy using OS, browsers, window managers, file managers of my choice. I do like to have a choice.

Quote - Soleen said @ #6.5

When I am using my PC I do not care about precentage of people use the same setup as I do. I enjoy using OS, browsers, window managers, file managers of my choice. I do like to have a choice.

ahh yes..choice of filemanager and browser are reason for changing to a different OS. Odd that windows don't have those options

Quote - RedHook said @ #1.6
ahh yes..choice of filemanager and browser are reason for changing to a different OS. Odd that windows don't have those options

Ok This is my http://dwm.suckless.org window manager, I challenge you to find anything like this for Windows like OS. And I do love this window manager, it is fast, small and extremely efficient for my needs.
This is my file manager: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html you can say that is looks like Windows File manager? I do not care, it is fast, configurble and very stable for me.

(Soleen said @ #6.5)

When I am using my PC I do not care about precentage of people use the same setup as I do. I enjoy using OS, browsers, window managers, file managers of my choice. I do like to have a choice.

Does that surprise you? and whats the market share got to do with linux and java? from what i heard... sun makes *great* java runtime and compiler for linux ... so ... your point is?

Quote - Soleen said @ #6.7

Ok This is my http://dwm.suckless.org window manager, I challenge you to find anything like this for Windows like OS. And I do love this window manager, it is fast, small and extremely efficient for my needs.
This is my file manager: http://thunar.xfce.org/index.html you can say that is looks like Windows File manager? I do not care, it is fast, configurble and very stable for me.


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=f...G=Google+Search

you pick the one that meets your needs

Quote - RedHook said @ #6.9
you pick the one that meets your needs

Thank you, but I already picked mine, and I do not need another one.
I picked OS that cost 0$ and all soft that also did not cost my anything. I do not play any games, why should I use a nonefree software, when a free software can solve all my needs? And on the top of that I enjoy using opensource software (even though I do have several closed source programs on my PC such as Opera).

Quote - Soleen said @ #6.10

Thank you, but I already picked mine, and I do not need another one.
I picked OS that cost 0$ and all soft that also did not cost my anything. I do not play any games, why should I use a nonefree software, when a free software can solve all my needs? And on the top of that I enjoy using opensource software (even though I do have several closed source programs on my PC such as Opera).

do you have understand the concept of TCO?

I thought that we covered this 5-10 years ago?

Programs that install unnecessary tasktray icons **** me off.

Sun JAVA is pretty much required on any PC these days.

@OceanMotion: do you have any Java applications you need to run? If so, then YES! Otherwise, don't worry about it as it will just add more seconds to your boot-up time.

Quote - Shadrack said @ #5

Sun JAVA is pretty much required on any PC these days.

Required? For what, exactly? Stupid Java games that could have been written better in Flash?

Does a normal user actually need to have Java SE installed. Is it really used for anything that important ? A lot of people say, must do so because MS one is no longer updated but you uninstall it anyway.

Microsoft JVM is based on the old JDK 1.1, which means that applications or applets compiled against jdk 1.2 or higher may not run properly in MS JVM.

However, if you do not use Java-written apps/games (eg Azureus) or visit websites that use applets (like on many educational and ticket booking sites), there is no need to install any Java Runtime Environment.