Teen commits suicide after being blackmailed on Skype


Daniel's death has prompted calls for more awareness of cyber abuse.

A 17 year old British teen committed suicide after being blackmailed via video calling program Skype.

Daniel Perry believed he was conversing with a girl of the same age, when the criminal on the other end threatened to release the conversation if he did not pay them.

The apprentice mechanic from Dunfermline, decided life was no longer worth living when he died shortly after jumping off a bridge only an hour after the conversation.

A close family member is struggling to accept Perry’s death. "He has felt embarrassed, horrified and has thought he's let everyone down," they said. "We're a very close family and I just wished he had come to me and said something." They went on to say:

I would have gone on the computer and told them to p-off. I still can't believe this happened and expect him to walk in the door any minute.

However, they insist “he wasn't doing anything wrong” and did “what anyone his age might do”. The family friend adds:

He was not the type of person who let things get him down. He was a happy laddie, not depressed and the last type of person you would think would take their life.

Perry was still alive when rescued by a lifeboat crew an hour later after he jumped, but died a short time afterwards. His mother says more needs to be done about the awareness of cyber abuse, and promises to spread awareness at local high schools to "stop this happening to other young people."

Scottish Police are investigating the suicide.

Source: Daily Mail | Image courtesy of News Corp 

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The power button is pretty effective at curbing cyber bullying... I hate to think if this situation unfolded in-person that two lives may have been lost. Glad Microsoft and the NSA keep full skype records.

Is it me, or are kids killing themselves over really silly things? I mean, when I was a kid it occasionally happened, but the kids who did it were abused by their families. Now it's like they do this stuff over name calling from complete strangers.Talking about being sensitive!

that's because kids these days are raised in a bubble of parent protection and have become unable to handle confrontation. A child/teen/and even some adults are completely unable to defend themselves using their brains. When that parent bubble is gone, they break mentally and either hurt themselves or reach for a gun.

When you were little, the amount of this news was there, but not within your reach.
Now this information is in your reach, the world became smaller. So it often appears like things happening now, that didn't or barely happened 50 years ago.
Which isn't true, in numbers yea, cause we doubled population. But in percentages... it seems to've hardly changed. You just hear more about it, so it looks like it became worse.

I feel you are only partially correct. It's like comparing 1965 to 1985 -20 years makes a big difference in society. There were times I was bullied at school, however, I was detached from that when I was home. I was also not punished as harshly when I started fighting back, unlike schools today. The world is only small when you are plugged into the internet and 500 garbage cable channels. I don't want my kids getting smart phones at 8 years old.

Funny thing is the BBC also blamed ask.fm that this kid also apparently used.
********, it's the internet, if you're getting bullied either leave the site/close the program or log off the PC and stop whinging.

no different than use of Facebook as an excuse to the end of a life. People need to take responsibility for themselves and not blame electronics or software.

Natural selection. Others pay millions to escape death , one calls it over bad jokes. Education is at fault too. I have no respect nor pitty for them. Excluding one person in the history perhaps.

Sounds like this poor person was a little off in the first place. Most likely helicopter parents. Kids are hovered over, not allowed to fail at anything, not taught right from wrong, not taught how to stand up for themselves, then when the least little thing goes wrong...life isn't worth living?

Stupid suicide.
However, blackmail for money is a crime. And if it involves a suicide then it will worst the situation.

I get the whole, 'don't want to be embarrassed in public' but wow, killing yourself isn't the answer neither. Don't pay the blackmailer, So you'll be embarrassed for a week or 2, people forget, and move on, ending your own life is never the answer.

He probably was afraid that the person was gonna upload the conversation on YouTube and that would ruin his reputation. He should've talked to someone about it.

I would taken his money and uploaded the video anyway for the hell of it.
But seriously, killing yourself over a conversation with a 'girl' over the internet?
What the hell is the world coming too.
"you suck"
"OMG I HATE MY LIFE I JUST WANNA KILL MYSELF"
Dear parents: teach your boys to be men and not little ******* who just want to end it all after being called a name online. Seriously, thats just lame.

Anarkii said,
I would taken his money and uploaded the video anyway for the hell of it.
But seriously, killing yourself over a conversation with a 'girl' over the internet?
What the hell is the world coming too.
"you suck"
"OMG I HATE MY LIFE I JUST WANNA KILL MYSELF"
Dear parents: teach your boys to be men and not little ******* who just want to end it all after being called a name online. Seriously, thats just lame.

.....

Its the suicide a 17 yo kid, not a daily mail article
The crooks pretended to be a 17 yo girl,(criminal deception to start with) they used imagery of a 17 yo girl to lure a 17 yo guy into doing something in front of a camera,
They then told Perry to pay money into a bank acc or the recording would be shown to all and sundry, the crooks told Perry that "you're life wont be worth living unless you pay up",

Perry had previous issues, and had visited askfm and been told "kill yourself"

A lot of the users here are hardened, streetwise, even before the internet,

Shadowzz said,
You're talking to us, we're all strangers here.

When I was young, being 56.... many years ago, the every day speech was " do not talk to strangers" etc. etc. but that did not mean not replying to someone asking for directions.
Another problem is that nowadays everybody feels compelled to post about every details of life on so called social network. When I was young I had "my best friend" and I talked with her about a lot of things but they were conversations face to face. I would never go and,talk about my life with someone I have just met and know nothing about.

I have Facebook, I once had myspace, hyves, WAYN etc. Due to mates being there.
And I agree, I sometimes blur out something on my timeline when I think afterwards... why did I share that with the world. And this is just little things, not my entire life story and wth I'm constantly doing. If I check my feeds.... so much BS being posted by everyone "Good morning everyone, I just woke up" "Oh I'm eating with X and Y at restaurant Z" or the weekly "Yay it's weekend".... But these posts keep getting replies from other people, so they think what they say is interesting and continue doing so.
Yeah, if I'd be a criminal, I'd make so much money by just watching facebook/twitter feeds.

Oh god another daily mail article, its going to be interesting to see what they want the government to do next. Ban skype its corrupting our youth!

Setnom said,
What could the criminal have on him, that was so bad for the poor kid to commit suicide?

Something that looks insignificant for you can mean the world to someone else.
Each person takes stuff in different ways. So your questions is not really relevant in cases like this.

Unfortunately, this is not the first time i hear about kids being blackmailed or made fun off over the internet and then commit suicide. Even more unfortunate the fact that it's probably not the last.
With the internet today you can really make a kid suffer for no reason.

The media likes to point out Internet related bullying for suicides, but this stuff has been going on for years, on and off the Internet. It is sad, but not new.

Bullying and raging hormones sometimes result in tragedy.

Do find it weird that after one convo this happened. Have to wonder what they were black mailing him for doing?

Seems vague for a reason....

Tho in saying that anyone taking there own life is indeed creating a sad and shocking event.

It wouldn't have been just one conversation.. Probably, this had been happening for several weeks at least.

Kid should have just blocked them... No amount of embarrassment is worth your life.

The bit I dont get is, even if he was expossing himself to a "girl" online, thats not illegal or even really something to kill yourself over. If someone wants to post a video of you whackin it, then yes it might be embarassing, but not worth taking your life over.

And once you had explained the situation to our family before or after it was posted, im pretty sure the bite would loose its venom. I know my folks would just laff at me and tell me to stick it back in my pants.

Dont mean to be-little what is a horrid and serious problem, but when you take ownership of something like this, the harasser looses all power.

Colicab said,
The bit I dont get is, even if he was expossing himself to a "girl" online, thats not illegal or even really something to kill yourself over. If someone wants to post a video of you whackin it, then yes it might be embarassing, but not worth taking your life over.

Well, it is very embarassing but I agree it isnt worth taking your life.

And actually the illegal part is recording it without telling the other user I am recording you and the other user agreeing. So the blackmailer has at least two crimes: Blackmailing and failure to notify the other person that is being recorded.

gigawin said,

Well, it is very embarassing but I agree it isnt worth taking your life.

And actually the illegal part is recording it without telling the other user I am recording you and the other user agreeing. So the blackmailer has at least two crimes: Blackmailing and failure to notify the other person that is being recorded.

Not only that but as the teen was only 17 at the time the recorder could be charged with child pornography and placed onto the sex offenders register...

a51Mot said,

Not only that but as the teen was only 17 at the time the recorder could be charged with child pornography and placed onto the sex offenders register...

Age of consent in the UK is 16, so nope.

Age of consent may be 16 but since this is a recording it will be classed as child pornography how many 16/17 years old have you seen in legit porn films?

The UK government should make it illegal for all under 18's to use the Internet. This will stop the teen suicides!

Heartripper said,
He was being sarcastic (i guess). It's related to Cameron's request to ban ask.fm after the suicide of a teen who was being bullied on the site

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...ted-suicides-teenagers.html

When it turned out she sent 97 or 98% of the hate to herself anonymously. Which I don't understand at all. I don't even believe it is ask.fm fault for her death, she could of easily disabled her account or at least turned off the Anonymous button which would of allowed her to of blocked people who were sending her abuse from accounts.

Back to this story, I don't believe it is Skype that is to blame here, it could of happened with any video messaging service.

Skype and ask.fm are just means of communications so you can't blame them for anything. IMHO the problem is that kids get exposed to the internet too early without the proper knowledge.

Folks, I really don't understand today's youth. Growing up, people made fun of me, I made fun of people. We blackmailed one another just for the humor and we called people so many names it would make you shiver in your seat right now. Why are kids committing suicide so often now over bullying and because someone called them a mean name? Maybe it just wasn't reported as often in the 80's and 90's? It just seems as though we are raising very sensitive kids now. Maybe the young man had some deep issues that his family ignored. Parents are quick to blame others instead of looking in the mirror.

I don't think its as comparable to the 80s and 90s.
The social media means everyone gets to see the **** taking on a bigger scale and puts the victim on a bigger pedestal.

Some people are more insecure with a lower self esteem than others.

More awareness would be good, but it'll never happen, parents will never get to know what their kids are up to unless they tell them.

compl3x said,

lol wtf? You blackmailed people for "humour"? :\


You never have?
"Give me your candy bar or imma tell the teacher/your mom" we all did these stupid little things no?

But its internet bullying, I know it can be a pain, but if it upsets you, wth are you doing on the internet? Make a new skype user, go to a different IM solution. Skype should be easy, block anyone but accepted friends from contacting you is in the preferences.
And if you do stupid stuff that has been recorded, I am absolutely sure it's less shaming/stupid then what he did in the end.

anywho, to help spread support for cyber-abuse.
http://i.r-p-m.eu/uploads/antibully.jpg

JHBrown said,
Folks, I really don't understand today's youth. Growing up, people made fun of me, I made fun of people. We blackmailed one another just for the humor and we called people so many names it would make you shiver in your seat right now. Why are kids committing suicide so often now over bullying and because someone called them a mean name? Maybe it just wasn't reported as often in the 80's and 90's? It just seems as though we are raising very sensitive kids now. Maybe the young man had some deep issues that his family ignored. Parents are quick to blame others instead of looking in the mirror.

Its obvious he was doing "other things" via Skype and its video chat. The criminal recorded it and threaten to release it.

JHBrown said,
You are thinking criminal activity.

Which is exactly what the story is about. Obtaining embarrassing/sensitive info about someone and threatening to expose it unless they're paid off is illegal.

compl3x said,

Which is exactly what the story is about. Obtaining embarrassing/sensitive info about someone and threatening to expose it unless they're paid off is illegal.

+10

I also think that today's youth is more sensitive than us, 80s kids.
But i also think they are also overexposed, with all this technology in their life.
Anything they do, even small things, can get much much higher exposure.

tomasse said,
I also think that today's youth is more sensitive than us, 80s kids.
But i also think they are also overexposed, with all this technology in their life.
Anything they do, even small things, can get much much higher exposure.
Agreed, not just sensitive neither, less well raised by their parents also.

compl3x said,

lol wtf? You blackmailed people for "humour"? :\

blackmail, beating to death, killings (school shooting) etc. OBVIOUSLY exist in the world of kids and the underage, not just the mafia, terrorists and gangs!

yeah back in high school, I used to bully and beat the crap out of some kids,and they never committed suicide. it has to do with the sissification of todays society. oh you cant say that, it will "hurt their feelings".

vcfan said,
yeah back in high school, I used to bully and beat the crap out of some kids,and they never committed suicide. it has to do with the sissification of todays society. oh you cant say that, it will "hurt their feelings".

Did you ever pretend to be a girl and then record them jacking off then threaten to release the video?

vcfan said,
yeah back in high school, I used to bully and beat the crap out of some kids,and they never committed suicide. it has to do with the sissification of todays society. oh you cant say that, it will "hurt their feelings".

*facepalm*

vcfan said,
yeah back in high school, I used to bully and beat the crap out of some kids,and they never committed suicide. it has to do with the sissification of todays society. oh you cant say that, it will "hurt their feelings".

It's astounding to me how you can so casually display a complete lack of empathy.

I was bullied, beaten up, embarrassed, etc! I was also threatened and told to bring a small amount of money to the bully everyday, or I would be beaten up!

Did the thought of suicide cross my mind??? HELL NO. I went to my dad and asked for help. The problem was solved in 1 day!!!

Kids need to trust the parents and friends more.

Because we now have a generation of wimps who have been so coddled to death that they are ill equipped to ever just accept anything.

JHBrown said,
Folks, I really don't understand today's youth. Growing up, people made fun of me, I made fun of people.

There's a difference between 2 or 3 people making for of you and someone threatening to render something public to the whole planet (aka Star Wars kid style).

We are talking about a serious crime. Something that can go far beyond the school yard.

Before judging it would be good to know what the criminals wanted to render public in exchange of money. Not an excuse to kill yourself this kid had problem but this could be a really serious crime actually.

It happened in July, and we decided to post it today because news is slower, therefore hopefully getting a little more exposure. Do accept my sincere apologies though.

TheDogsBed said,
This was news yesterday morning and you're only just reporting it? Way to go, guys.

Is it realy mather? I didnt know about this untill now!

Neobond said,
It happened in July, and we decided to post it today because news is slower, therefore hopefully getting a little more exposure. Do accept my sincere apologies though.

Even though late why can't Neowin have ACTUALLY good articles like this more often instead of posting mindless predictions from random people about how Microsoft will die in 2014 (which just get ridiculed in the comments) or things like Microsoft posting an ad about Google Scroogling users (which isn't useful for anyone and only sparks unwarranted banter between Microsoft and Google fans here). I can't really see how that's informing users also.... there has been like 4 back to back articles about the Scroogled ads "Here, here's another AD Microsoft posted calling Google stupid and Youtube link".

Recently this type of nonsensical content has slowed but its just something to note of.. I guess you do it for the views..

Edited by onionjuice, Aug 17 2013, 11:28am :

Why do people complain that someone else had the story earlier? Not everyone is watching the headlines every three minutes and jumping between tons of sites. Sometimes we just wanna read a handful of articles and move on with our day. Who gives a **** if another site had it a little earlier?

Gnome said,
Why do people complain that someone else had the story earlier? Not everyone is watching the headlines every three minutes and jumping between tons of sites. Sometimes we just wanna read a handful of articles and move on with our day. Who gives a **** if another site had it a little earlier?

One day is longer than 3 minutes. 24*60 = 1440 minutes. Most people who read/watch the news do it once a day..

onionjuice said,
things like Microsoft posting an ad about Google Scroogling users (which isn't useful for anyone and only sparks unwarranted banter between Microsoft and Google fans here).

yeah, i did not like it either. and i preffered they did not post one in new everytime it is out. i am not a fanboy of this companies, and i use both of them

i just dislike dissing ads. where the companies diss others instead of highlighting their own benefits.