Teen commits suicide on live video site

We have all heard of Cyber Bullying where a group of users online would taunt and stalk helpless users until they break down online and even offline but this is a case where it went a bit too far.

19 Year Old Abraham K.Biggs was broadcasting live on Justin.TV a popular live video site where he was being cheered on by users of a bodybuilding forum to do outrageous things, the stunt went too far when they saw Abraham take a dose of pills and hours later noticing no activity and had to call the EMT's and Police to the address. Later, a Broward County Examiner, confirmed the death to newteevee.

The video and all details pertaining to the actual incident have been removed and a statement from Justin.tv read "As for the broadcaster incident last night, we don't comment on individual videos, however, our policy prohibits inappropriate content on Justin.tv. We rely on the community to flag videos that they feel are objectionable. Once a video is flagged, it is reviewed and quickly removed from the system if it violates our Terms of Use.".

This isn't the first case either, last year a man from Great Britain hung himself live on video in front of hundreds of viewers and there was even a movie made about a murderer broadcasting murders on live video which was dependent on hits. Writing this article makes me think that we need to find a way to govern this sort of broadcasting so there are not more cases of this sort of activity. Gone of the days where the internet was simple and nice to use.

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Writing this article makes me think that we need to find a way to govern this sort of broadcasting so there are not more cases of this sort of activity.

Some voted world leaders are responsible for millions and thousands of cruel and painful deaths. So lets not blow this out of proportion just because one suicidal idiot made wrong decision and killed himself. Trouble free life made fluffy ******* from loads of people who complain about smallest things and don't know what real problems are (like massive deaths from cancer, war, hunger...). Do we need World War III in order to see all these events in perspective?

"He was truly an hero"
What the hell kind of nonsensical comment is that? What is heroic about stupidly doing something that is most assuredly warned AGAINST on the pills' label?

There is no doubt that the overall intelligence of the public is decreasing as people are no longer required to be responsible for their actions. The fact that millions of idiots actually believe that Bill Gates wants to give them free money out of the goodness of his heart and open emails promising the same is good evidence.

That and the results of the latest US election convince me.

Here is a great illustration from a 3rd grade teacher:

"The most eye-opening civics lesson I ever had was while teaching third grade. The presidential election was heating up and some of the children showed an interest. I decided we would have an election for a class president. We would choose our nominees. They would make a campaign speech and the class would vote.
To simplify the process, candidates were nominated by other class members. We discussed what kinds of characteristics these students should have. We got many nominations and from those, Jamie and Olivia were picked to run for the top spot.
The class had done a great job in their selections. Both candidates were good kids. I thought Jamie might have an advantage because he got lots of parental support. I had never seen Olivia's mother. The day arrived when they were to make their speeches. Jamie went first. He had specific ideas about how to make our class a better place. He ended by promising to do his very best. Every one applauded. He sat down and Olivia came to the podium. Her speech was concise. She said, "If you will vote for me, I will give you ice cream." She sat down. The class went wild. "Yes! Yes! We want ice cream."
She surely would say more. She did not have to. A discussion followed. How did she plan to pay for the ice cream? She wasn't sure. Would her parents buy it or would the class pay for it. She didn't know. The class really didn't care. All they were thinking about was ice cream. Jamie was forgotten. Olivia won by a land slide.
Every time Barack Obama opens his mouth he offered ice cream, and fifty percent of America reacted like nine year olds. They want ice cream. The other fifty percent know they're going to have to feed the cow."

Seriously, how does US politics relate to this article? Anyway, I think the suicide was purely accidental. It's possible that he actually did commit suicide for reasons unknown to me. However, it's also possible that he fell victim to peer pressure which inevitably influenced him to take the pills.

For those that don't understand, the "An hero" thing is a 4chan meme that was picked up when some young boy killed himself over losing his iPod. A memorial MySpace was created with one of the comments being something along the lines of him being "an hero", in which Anons were quick to jump in and go "HUR HUR ERROR!!"

So... before you go posting a wall of text.. err, nevermind.

I would say the people egging him on are as responsible if not more responsible in the death. It is no less an effect of High School or College Hazing.

El

why would you want to try and regulate this? this kind of stuff happens very infrequently and does not warrant further restrictions or oversight of the internet as a whole to thwart some non existent problem.

Oh My God. I just don't believe i saw such comments above. Yes, evolution does happen that way, but it's not simple. *I wanted initially to write an explanation in this post, but I'm busy now, maybe later*
We should fight for our species. He was just a guy with some mental problems, and we all have that sometimes.(no offense intended, mental problems could include something as basic as stress and as serious as mental disorders)
And yes, i sometimes fell like i want to die. And yes, i sometimes am afraid to die. And yes, I'm HUMAN!
He died too soon...

To be pedantic:

"...last year a man from Great Britain hung himself live on video in front of hundreds of viewers". It's incorrect to use 'hung' in this context, 'hanged' is the correct word.

Wow! Coming back to neowin 2 years later and the change in maturity of people is amazing! A bunch of 4chan kids have taken over the once great Neowin.net. The comments just show how ignorant people are with their mainstream views on what evolution is. Have any of you ever read a book written on evolution and how complex the theory really is? Its not as simple as the strong survive and the weak die thats some holywood bull**** being fed to you little children. Anyway, RIP whoever this kid was ending your life is not an easy thing to do.

It's sad.

But some of the replies here are even worse.

I wonder what's the age of the average Neowin poster. With all the fanatics Apple and MS posters around i always suspected it to be low ... but not that low. Anyway kids life will teach you one or two tricks along the road. One is you are not as good and as powerful as you might think. **** happens to everyone and you don't know how you will react when you hit the rock bottom.

I hope when the worst days of your life will come you wont have to deal with people like Cramshanateen.

Age doesn't really matter. From my gaming clan, I have met 14 year olds who are very mature, as opposed to older members (42+) who can't seem to grow up.

qdave said,
indeed! the world will be a worse place without him :(

EH? If that's not sarcasm, you should have been there instead of him.

Gone of the days where the internet was simple and nice to use.

LOL

Surely you mean "Gone are the days . . . "?

Sounds like an accidental suicide to me; people are egged on to do stupid things all the time. The operative phrase there may be "...hours later noticing no activity..."

well the way i see it... if someone actually goes through with that (i.e. offing themselves) then odds are they had serious mental issues to begin with.

cause 'most people' can take cut downs etc etc and deal with it.

although i suppose if your pushed 'to far' then something like this could happen.... but being 'bullied online' i dont think would make any 'normal' person go over the edge to off themselves online.

ThaCrip said,
well the way i see it... if someone actually goes through with that (i.e. offing themselves) then odds are they had serious mental issues to begin with.

cause 'most people' can take cut downs etc etc and deal with it.

although i suppose if your pushed 'to far' then something like this could happen.... but being 'bullied online' i dont think would make any 'normal' person go over the edge to off themselves online.
yeah, no normal person. but lots of people take the internet WAAY to seriously. Just yesterday i heard something about a guy who met his wife online thru WoW was caught 'cheating' on her with another girl in another game online lool. all these people that think WoW is real life and act out their real lives, need to check themselves into a mental hospital

Thats a very sociopathic statement , you are implying that people who are mentally disabled should be killed.

As members of society it is the duty of the stronger and more intelligent people to protect the weaker ones. Sociopaths like you are the ones who should be cast away.

Vezineth, while I agree with the gist of your statement towards Cramshanateen's kitsch comment, I disagree with what you imply by, "stronger and more intelligent people to protect the weaker ones". One who is willing to act on suicidal ideation does not necessarily correlate to a less intelligent or weaker person. Many very intelligent people have committed suicide; Alan Turing, Edwin Armstrong, etc.

Googintosh said,
Vezineth, while I agree with the gist of your statement towards Cramshanateen's kitsch comment, I disagree with what you imply by, "stronger and more intelligent people to protect the weaker ones". One who is willing to act on suicidal ideation does not necessarily correlate to a less intelligent or weaker person. Many very intelligent people have committed suicide; Alan Turing, Edwin Armstrong, etc.

I meant we need to prevent people from hurting or killing himself or others. We should do what we can to prevent stupid deaths which can be easily prevented. Genius may also sometimes need emotional counseling.

I actually agree with Cramshanateen actually. What you guys are talking about - protecting the weaker ones; i.e. stopping people from committing suicide - doesn't make sense. This is part of the reason why people will not continue to evolve. We try our hardest to keep people who can barely sustain themselves to keep on going (people that are terminally in mental hospitals, or people who are just alive thru an artificial heart and a ton of meds) instead of letting them go. This means that the things that 'dont work' (in terms of evolution) AREN'T filtered out, like back in the stone ages or what not. Not the way to go in my opinion, but call me crazy...

-edit-
before everyone bashes that statement, keep in mind that while i think that would make the world a better place (at least if everyone agreed with it and felt the way i do) I realize that it would never happen and that people are the way they are.

darkpuma said,
I actually agree with Cramshanateen actually. What you guys are talking about - protecting the weaker ones; i.e. stopping people from committing suicide - doesn't make sense. This is part of the reason why people will not continue to evolve. We try our hardest to keep people who can barely sustain themselves to keep on going (people that are terminally in mental hospitals, or people who are just alive thru an artificial heart and a ton of meds) instead of letting them go. This means that the things that 'dont work' (in terms of evolution) AREN'T filtered out, like back in the stone ages or what not. Not the way to go in my opinion, but call me crazy...

-edit-
before everyone bashes that statement, keep in mind that while i think that would make the world a better place (at least if everyone agreed with it and felt the way i do) I realize that it would never happen and that people are the way they are.


People will always continue to evolve (Pft Steve Jones), and biological evolution is not a ladder of progression, it is the goalless adaptation to environment.

You're advocating eugenics and flirting with a naturalistic fallacy. It has been attempted in the past and not just by the Nazis. Read an appropriate book on the topic and see how that turned. Eugenics pares down genetic diversity. Poor genetic diversity increases difficulty in survivability (susceptibility to disease, sperm quality, etc). Lets stop pandering to people who require glasses or corrective eye surgery. Without it many of them would be useless and require sustenance. Pandering to their disability only pollutes the gene pool with genes that promote poor eyesight. Ditto to any attempts at finding a cure for cancer. Lets not forget dentistry, without it how many people would die of starvation from the inability to chew food due to agonizingly painful teeth ailments. If people like this did not receive treatment and did not propagate their genes it would promote the genes of those who have intrinsically healthy teeth and gums!

darkpuma said,
I actually agree with Cramshanateen actually. What you guys are talking about - protecting the weaker ones; i.e. stopping people from committing suicide - doesn't make sense. This is part of the reason why people will not continue to evolve. We try our hardest to keep people who can barely sustain themselves to keep on going (people that are terminally in mental hospitals, or people who are just alive thru an artificial heart and a ton of meds) instead of letting them go. This means that the things that 'dont work' (in terms of evolution) AREN'T filtered out, like back in the stone ages or what not. Not the way to go in my opinion, but call me crazy...

-edit-
before everyone bashes that statement, keep in mind that while i think that would make the world a better place (at least if everyone agreed with it and felt the way i do) I realize that it would never happen and that people are the way they are.

Well done Hitler if more of you think this way then in about 50 years time im sure there will be a new call of duty game in your honour.

Googintosh said,
People will always continue to evolve (Pft Steve Jones), and biological evolution is not a ladder of progression, it is the goalless adaptation to environment.

You're advocating eugenics and flirting with a naturalistic fallacy. It has been attempted in the past and not just by the Nazis. Read an appropriate book on the topic and see how that turned. Eugenics pares down genetic diversity. Poor genetic diversity increases difficulty in survivability (susceptibility to disease, sperm quality, etc). Lets stop pandering to people who require glasses or corrective eye surgery. Without it many of them would be useless and require sustenance. Pandering to their disability only pollutes the gene pool with genes that promote poor eyesight. Ditto to any attempts at finding a cure for cancer. Lets not forget dentistry, without it how many people would die of starvation from the inability to chew food due to agonizingly painful teeth ailments. If people like this did not receive treatment and did not propagate their genes it would promote the genes of those who have intrinsically healthy teeth and gums!

Strange, one of my friends just brought up eugenics today and id never heard of it, so its strange that you just mentioned that. That is what i'm getting at, although I realize that its not the way to go - if you did, it would cause a lot of problems/fighting etcetc. Thanks for that comment Googintosh! much more insightful than the comment below yours lol

@syphern - that was a very childish and ill-informed reply.
Read up on eugenics (what it turns out i was referring to). the US practiced it for years from what i can tell. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

thank you darkpuma and Googintosh for bringing up such interesting arguments!
I learned something new today...and conversations like these really do help people!

BilliShere said,
thank you darkpuma and Googintosh for bringing up such interesting arguments!
I learned something new today...and conversations like these really do help people!

thanks glad someone appreciates it

syphern said,

Well done Hitler if more of you think this way then in about 50 years time im sure there will be a new call of duty game in your honour.


Wtf I can't bother to read all the comments, I read the first 5-6 comments and I am like WTF, Hitler is back :S

I hope that the new Call of duty game will rock -_-

syphern said,

Well done Hitler if more of you think this way then in about 50 years time im sure there will be a new call of duty game in your honour.

Nice to see Godwin's Law is still alive and well.