Twitter blocked in Pakistan over cartoon

Twitter access has now been blocked in the country of Pakistan due to the service showing images of Islam's Prophet Muhammad. The Associated Press reports that, according to the government, Twitter refused to remove messages posted by others about a contest that actually started on Facebook. The contest apparently centered on posting images of Muhammad. The religion of Islam considers any depiction of Muhammad as blasphemous.

While Pakistan's government claims that Facebook worked with them to remove the contest and its images, Twitter, which transmitted the images as "tweets" to promote the contest, allegedly refused to remove those images. Mohammad Yaseen, chairman of the Pakistan Telecommunication's Authority, is quoted as saying, "We have been negotiating with them until last night, but they did not agree to remove the stuff, so we had to block it."

He added that once Twitter agrees to remove those images, access to the service will be restored in Pakistan. So far, neither Twitter nor Facebook have issued a comment.

In January, Twitter announced that it now had the ability to block messages to a specific country without blocking those messages to the rest of the world. At the time the company said, "We try to keep content up wherever and whenever we can, and we will be transparent with users when we can't. The Tweets must continue to flow."

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If you can't have a laugh at yourself and or your beliefs then you may aswell end your life right now

tolerance in all things is good but if your going to throw your toys out of the cot every time someone so much as besmirches the name of whatever deity you believe in then you obviously haven't been paying attention to what you've read/heard about what it is you believe in

Someone needs to organize a concerted campaign which ensures that cartoons, videos, whatever, mocking all extant deities and the king of Thailand (in a humourous, non-pernicious way, afterall, it doesn't take much to set certain people off), are constantly present, though not shoved down your throat, on all prominent websites, etc., until the many backwards cultures and subcultures of the world learn to take a joke, and realize that no one has the right not to be offended (I'm offended every day) and that the best way to deal with something that happens to offend you is to ignore it.

Probably the longest sentence I have ever written.

May peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be on Prophet Muhammad! May Almighty give guidance and wisdom to those who involve in these kind of competitions.

Mazhar said,
May peace and blessings of Almighty Allah be on Prophet Muhammad! May Almighty give guidance and wisdom to those who involve in these kind of competitions.

and may he give the lesson of tolerance to those who would pack a spazzy over such trivial things

People make fun of Christians here all the time in America and say the most vulgar sac religious stuff about Jesus and people who follow after His teachings. Yet Christians are not throwing mass riots and issuing death warrants for those who do. Time to quit giving Muslims free passes for acting like a bunch of barbarians just because someone offends them. Act civilized. We cannot tolerate this kind of behavior from ANY group or religion.

I never understand the double standard of most people when it comes to Islam or Muslims. Let me present the case with more logical reasons
1. Freedom of speech ends when you start provoking other set of people. If this is incorrect then pardon me all those countries have laws about genocide of Hitler does not justice. As some might think other wise i.e. so called freedom of speech. I totally not understand why we setup double standard on freedom of speech.
2. Twitter has technology to stop those tweets for certain countries and every country should be allowed to choose to block certain provoking materiel and i dont think so there is any thing bad about it. Infect , not complying the standard they let the government to stop the whole site.
3. No Muslim has a problem with pork because we just dont eat them. I work in all english enviornment and my coleagues eat prok or beacon and i never objected. I dont know why people are making it fuss.
4. At the end we dont support Pak government act either and we are against banning of any site to maintain the freedom of speech but however there is always a limit and this has to be maintained it that in following freedom of speech we dont overstep someone else's boundary.

I hope most of the guys would understand these points and please make sure you keep it in good spirit we need peace not insults among the humanity.

gripusa said,

1. Freedom of speech ends when you start provoking other set of people. If this is incorrect then pardon me all those countries have laws about genocide of Hitler does not justice.

Wrong. Freedom of speech does NOT end when you provoke someone. Honestly if it was a crime to offend/provoke someone then the entire population of the UK would be in prison now.

Martin5000 said,

Wrong. Freedom of speech does NOT end when you provoke someone. Honestly if it was a crime to offend/provoke someone then the entire population of the UK would be in prison now.


Ok Can you give me answers of
1. Why Judiciary allowed UK govt to get the real identitied of people who provoke people for riots . As clearly law understand provocation of riots was wrong.
2. Can we start asking questions about holocust why there is punishement to question about holocaust (as considering your point view , anyone who has ever denied this , probably been punished wrongly because he was just using his "freedom of expression")?
3. If this is true tomorrow we need to allow all al-qayeda members to speak whatever they want but obviously all of our governments would not allow it ....

I'll just post a quote that was said back in 95. "what did the US just do flying to Bosnia? We have no business over there. You know what violence is? Mostly, and people don't want to hear this. Somebody shoots your family members, so of course you retaliate. Same thing the US does, except no one even shot their family members. They see that somebody bombed a school, with all these people get killed, so the United States feels like 'ohh that's messed up, we got to show them who the real killers are.'" 2pac.

-=SEDIN=- said,
I'll just post a quote that was said back in 95. "what did the US just do flying to Bosnia? We have no business over there. You know what violence is? Mostly, and people don't want to hear this. Somebody shoots your family members, so of course you retaliate. Same thing the US does, except no one even shot their family members. They see that somebody bombed a school, with all these people get killed, so the United States feels like 'ohh that's messed up, we got to show them who the real killers are.'" 2pac.

Wow that is so ignorant AND stupid. NATO went to war for Muslims getting attacked by Serbs there.

revparadigm said,

Wow that is so ignorant AND stupid. NATO went to war for Muslims getting attacked by Serbs there.

Wow no way.....im from Bosnia and I was in that war from beginning to the end. What I was trying to say with that was, USA likes to go and stick their nose in everyone's business.

OK, so some people draw a cartoon of someone and call the drawing Mohammed/Muhammed (and all the other spellings) and it instantly ****es of all the Muslims. How can they be so ****ed off if they don't know what he looks like, and someone draws a cartoon of someone called Mohammed.

It doesn't make any sense

I guess freedom of speech is optional when it comes to Islam...otherwise expect more riots, film makers getting threatened or murdered, authors having to hide the rest of their life, females getting acid thrown on their faces.

Yeah...I have so much respect for that.

revparadigm said,
I guess freedom of speech is optional when it comes to Islam...otherwise expect more riots, film makers getting threatened or murdered, authors having to hide the rest of their life, females getting acid thrown on their faces.

Yeah...I have so much respect for that.


its not freedom of speech its freedom of insulting
if its ok to get insulted in your culture its not in our culture

revparadigm said,
I guess freedom of speech is optional when it comes to Islam...otherwise expect more riots, film makers getting threatened or murdered, authors having to hide the rest of their life, females getting acid thrown on their faces.

Yeah...I have so much respect for that.

Dude please shut the **** up. Go through a war first hand like I did, where it was all religion bull****, then come on here and say something. Im a Muslim myself, will I ever do anything because they offended my religion? Hell no. i have seen with my own eyes Christians cutting peoples head off, raping women and kids, killing people execution style one after another, as a kid I've seen multiple mass graves of Muslims where their were all killed by Christians. Still i got nothing against any religion in this crazy messed up world. You're stuck in your own little world, seeing the world from one point of view. Media doesn't report what they should. If someone tells USA to stop drawing pictures of the prothet or something will happen then why do the citizens of this country keep on doing it over and over again. Its like they are asking for something to happen, so they can go and stick their nose in another country and bomb the hell out of it and show them how strong and powerful they are as a nation. Its just like when someone burns a USA flag, US gets so damn offended. That's exactly how most of Muslims feel when you insult their religion. A comet needs to hit our planet and end this once and for all.

-=SEDIN=- said,

Dude please shut the **** up. Go through a war first hand like I did, where it was all religion bull****, then come on here and say something. Im a Muslim myself, will I ever do anything because they offended my religion? Hell no. i have seen with my own eyes Christians cutting peoples head off, raping women and kids, killing people execution style one after another, as a kid I've seen multiple mass graves of Muslims where their were all killed by Christians. Still i got nothing against any religion in this crazy messed up world. You're stuck in your own little world, seeing the world from one point of view. Media doesn't report what they should. If someone tells USA to stop drawing pictures of the prothet or something will happen then why do the citizens of this country keep on doing it over and over again. Its like they are asking for something to happen, so they can go and stick their nose in another country and bomb the hell out of it and show them how strong and powerful they are as a nation. Its just like when someone burns a USA flag, US gets so damn offended. That's exactly how most of Muslims feel when you insult their religion. A comet needs to hit our planet and end this once and for all.

Why would you assume I would give anybody a free pass to butcher in the name of their religion? Why is it when some Jihadist does something in the name of Islam there is outrage against the people who point it out...just like you did here - then equate it with some other horrid behavior, like that makes it any better or less evil? What is your excuse when Muslims do this to other Muslims? I don't have any when some other religion commits acts like this.

I have freedom and will exercise it. You don't like it? Then come and try to stop me. I'm not intimidated at all by Islamic rage. Makes me love my freedoms all the more.

If anyone ever mentions that the prophet married a 7 year old and had sex with her when she turned 8, they got ape**** about it. How could ANY half decent human being justify such an act?

These losers will never grow up.

It's not about internet censorship or anything such as. In fact, it's about the respect that the country has towards its religion. The general consensus is that it is wrong to draw the prophet in Islam inside the country. So, religion, for them, trumps economic growth. Who the eff are you to tell them otherwise? Are you their prime minister? International affairs minister? No. So let them do what they want. In the case of western countries, economics might have outgrown religion and no one said anything about it. Does the country of Pakistan neglect your [western world] religion with blasphemy because westerners have chosen another path towards the social prism? No. If they are willing to respect your religion and your affairs, then, respect theirs. Needless to say, again, it isn't about censorship, it's about respect.

The Watcher said,
It's not about internet censorship or anything such as. In fact, it's about the respect that the country has towards its religion. The general consensus is that it is wrong to draw the prophet in Islam inside the country. So, religion, for them, trumps economic growth. Who the eff are you to tell them otherwise? Are you their prime minister? International affairs minister? No. So let them do what they want. In the case of western countries, economics might have outgrown religion and no one said anything about it. Does the country of Pakistan neglect your [western world] religion with blasphemy because westerners have chosen another path towards the social prism? No. If they are willing to respect your religion and your affairs, then, respect theirs. Needless to say, again, it isn't about censorship, it's about respect.

Respect goes both ways who are they to tell people outside can or can't do in my country.

Melfster said,

Respect goes both ways who are they to tell people outside can or can't do in my country.

what did pakistan tell you to or not to do?

If internet services are blocked or removed content on the whim of either individuals or elected representitives on a percieved bias then there would be little if any content to see.
If Pakistan whishes to try to ostrasise its citizens from available content that is for those leaders justify to their citizens.Much like China they have a choice to impliment censoring firewalls, weather it is the interest of the nation to remark on some passing content or merely be denied a rebutale it may deserve.Now the hidden content will not contain the viewpoint of Pakistani based citizens so may carry even more of a bias than before.

kaffra said,
better then the piratebay censorship elsewhere

Okay, I'll bite. How is it better?

It's more acceptable to censor people's opinions and thoughts, than it is to trade software and movies?

Every time Pakistan rears it's head with something to do with technology it's always a backward or retarded move, do we really need countries like this connected to the WWW?

Don't know why will people draw Muhmmed just to provoke muslims.

I have friend muslim and i respect him and i would never do somthing like that.

And for Twitter administration they should be ashamed for aproving this contest!

do you eat pork?

WinA said,
Don't know why will people draw Muhmmed just to provoke muslims.

I have friend muslim and i respect him and i would never do somthing like that.

And for Twitter administration they should be ashamed for aproving this contest!

WinA said,
Don't know why will people draw Muhmmed just to provoke muslims.

Western media shows US/UK/EU flags being burned all the time on TV, because we have this little thing called freedom that people in Pakistan cannot even begin to comprehend.

I wonder why Muslims in question have to try to provoke the west?

MiukuMac said,

Western media shows US/UK/EU flags being burned all the time on TV, because we have this little thing called freedom that people in Pakistan cannot even begin to comprehend.

Only the US has a problem with flag burning because allegiance is pledged to it. In UK and EU a flag is just a piece of cloth. Is it possible that US based media is trying to whip up outrage by showing footage of flag burning?

mrbester said,

Only the US has a problem with flag burning because allegiance is pledged to it. In UK and EU a flag is just a piece of cloth. Is it possible that US based media is trying to whip up outrage by showing footage of flag burning?

And same as a drawing of Muhammed and a burning of a book. they are not the "real" thing why should they go nuts.

WinA said,
Don't know why will people draw Muhmmed just to provoke muslims.

I have friend muslim and i respect him and i would never do somthing like that.

And for Twitter administration they should be ashamed for aproving this contest!

Draw Muhammad day was sparked off because of the over dramatic reaction that the Islamic community had over the Southpark episode touching upon the subject.

(As a note, Mohammed was already shown on South Park before, in the super best friends episode. It is only recently just become a problem since the Danish cartoons)

One day someone set up draw Muhammad day on a Facebook group, and it was just meant to be a peaceful protest. some of the images were just plain images of someone standing with a smile. the whole idea of the project was so that the Islamic community did not have a single person to target. If the whole entire Internet was doing it, then it would have been impossible for them to track down the individuals who drew Mohammed and send death threats their way, or actually end their life which has happened on past occasions.

As a side note, just because someone is offended, it does not automatically give them some kind of protective bubble, that means that you cannot continue with the discussion. I'm personally offended by the barbaric practices which Middle Eastern culture treats women. But you don't see me rallying the troops, burning flags, rioting or demanding websites to be blocked over it.

MiukuMac said,

Western media shows US/UK/EU flags being burned all the time on TV, because we have this little thing called freedom that people in Pakistan cannot even begin to comprehend.

I wonder why Muslims in question have to try to provoke the west?


Um, because the west accuses the east of using WMDs as an excuse to use it as practice ground for their own WMDs?

if your religion is actually right wouldn't you just wait for those to be judged instead of passing judgement yourselves...think about it. okay.

MiukuMac said,
Good - Twitter should not buckle to oppressive governments like those in Pakistan, nor should any service.

it buckles in countries like the UK where you can be arrested for telling people to protest on twitter.. Twitter reveals who the people's profiles belong to.. Double standard?

Lachlan said,

it buckles in countries like the UK where you can be arrested for telling people to protest on twitter.. Twitter reveals who the people's profiles belong to.. Double standard?

It's not a matter of telling anyone anything, it's a matter of instigating the riots. How can you not see the difference between offending a religion (What doesn't these days) and organising a mob to destroy and loot?

Hollow.Droid said,

It's not a matter of telling anyone anything, it's a matter of instigating the riots. How can you not see the difference between offending a religion (What doesn't these days) and organising a mob to destroy and loot?

There is a clear line between speech regarding a riot and the actual instatiation of such. However, the speech that can cause a riot varies depending on the reader.

nvllsvm said,

There is a clear line between speech regarding a riot and the actual instatiation of such. However, the speech that can cause a riot varies depending on the reader.

I think specifically organising a riot and telling people when and where to meet is fairly clear in its intent.

MiukuMac said,
Good - Twitter should not buckle to oppressive governments like those in Pakistan, nor should any service.

How do you know its opperssive?! I live in Pakistan. The government here is not popular. It is extremely corrupt but NOT oppressive. Get your facts straight!