Ubuntu Edge campaign far behind $32 million goal with 10 days to go

In July, Canonical launched a crowd sourced fund raising campaign, via Indigogo, to help raise the money for their Linux-based Ubuntu Edge smartphone. The goal? A massive $32 million. Within three days, the campaign had raised over $5 million and seemed to be on track to reaching that rather high goal with some time to spare.

That was then. Now, with 10 days to go, the Ubunto Edge Indiegogo site shows that the campaign has only raised $9.6 million. Canonical would have to see people contribute over $2 million per day to reach the $32 million goal at this stage, and that's something that's appears to be highly unlikely at this point.

So far, the website has yet to show any kind of official concern for the amount of money raised for the smartphone. A few days ago, the site announced that the price of the Ubuntu Edge would now be fixed at $695, rather than have the price of the smartphone go up once a certain number of people donated to a different tier of the campaign. The website said anyone who has pledged over $695 will have the difference refunded.

That's assuming the campaign will be successful, of course. The page claims it has scored a large bundle deal with Bloomberg LP, which offers 115 of the smartphones for $80,000. However, it will have to get quite a few of those large bundle commitments signed up if the campaign has a hope of clearing its $32 million hurdle.

Source: Indiegogo | Image via Canonical

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Awesome concept, beautiful looking phone and interface. The concepts behind it are driven by design, rather then consumer market trends. However, this is where it all goes wrong.

People tend to just want what everyone else has, and run along a trend of what others are doing. I fear the phone is almost too good for it's own good.

Also the 30 million requirement is simply over the top, and they didn't have much chance of ever reaching that goal.

I do hope this phone could see the light of day, but i suppose only time will tell.

"Canonical would have to see people contribute over $2 million per day to reach the $32 million goal at this stage, and that's something that's appears to be highly unlikely at this point."

I think Canonical has a good chance to reach its gold. Compared to average crowdfonding projects that succeeds, the Ubuntu Edge project is right on the track.

Over the weekend, the Ubuntu Edge project, will have reached 9.5 millions, 30% of the recuired money. That is a tipping point for crowdfounding projects. Every projects that reach 30% on crowdfounding, have 90% chance to succeed!

"Projects that reach 30% of their funding goal succeed more than 90% of the time."

http://www.kickstarter.com/blog/happy-birthday-kickstarter

Crowdfounding is never linear. 80% of the money in crowfounding campaigns is raist in 20% of the first and last part.

Here is some graphs from average projects:

https://s3.amazonaws.com/Republique_Kickstarter/Graph.png

http://blog.indiegogo.com/2013...dfunding-contributions.html

As you can see, Canonical can still make it.

I think they can make it, because Ubuntu Edge is dead cheap, compared to iPhone 5 and Samsung Galaxy S4.

An unlocked iPhone 5 costs $849, and a unlocked Samsung Galaxy S4 costs $750.

Just go to the frontpage for more information on det differens between Ubuntu Edge, iPhone 5 and Galaxy S4:

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge/

I want what he's smoking ^

You can throw around all the percentages you want. They still need over 20 million. Let me repeat: 20 million! In 9 days! Not going to happen unless Shuttleworth adds his own money. And if it crashes as often the the bloated Unity does on my laptop, no thanks.

Anyway, I'm sure the spinmasters will be out in force when they fail.

Edited by COKid, Aug 12 2013, 10:56pm :

If this is such a great idea, Shuttleworth should invest some of his 500 million dollar fortune. Canonical wants to make a ton of money off of this phone. No problem there, but they don't want to risk anything to make it happen. Is this the new way of doing business?

Sorry, I don't like the trend of paying for a product that hasn't even been produced yet. I'm not shelling out hard-earned dough on a "concept", with few hard specs given, especially from a for-profit company like Canonical. If they were a non-profit, then maybe.

Considering a product like this has a high risk of never turning a profit in the already over saturated smart phone market, a company like Canonical can't afford to take that kind of risk. This was really a win/win/lose for them. First win, they find out exactly how many people are willing to fork over cash for such a product. Second win, they don't have to risk their own money on R&D. Then lose, because they clearly wanted to get into the smart phone business. At the end of the day they found out they cannot enter that market right now without lose much money at all.

Slight error in the headline: They are not "well behind" but "far behind"!

I find it sort of sad that every new project these days seems to rely on crowd funding!

They have to pay developers somehow. A project this big can't just be done by a few college buddies in their spare time like how many open source projects start out.

They should have done it on kickstarter.

Indigogo has a bad track record for projects reaching their funding goals.

I would say it was a bad choice, not a bad project.

I remember the early interviews and statements. They were so optimistic and certain people want this. Until some bloggers and reporters posted about how this phone is essentially a prototype, and will go to only a relatively small group.

swanlee said,
Na it wouldn't matter where they hosted it at 32 million is just WAY to much for a kickstarter of any type.

Exactly!!

"Until some bloggers and reporters posted about how this phone is essentially a prototype, and will go to only a relatively small group."

This phone is not just a prototype. The hardware and software are designed, but they met a road block when it come to production. That's why they kneed $32 million dollars. To produce it.

Here is how the software works:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-PEWGwk03o

Here is the design of the hardware:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYM7tCjp0Go

They only thing Canonical kneed is a green light for it to be produced.

acido00 said,
Microsoft should buy Ubuntu to build Windows Phone and other platforms based on Linux.

And... what good would that do? Why? What benefit does Linux have over the NT kernel in Windows Phone?

No, what Microsoft should do is allow Windows Phones to become full Windows RT devices when paired with an external monitor. That's very doable.

acido00 said,
Microsoft should buy Ubuntu to build Windows Phone and other platforms based on Linux.

Dafuq? This has to be the most retarded comment on Neowin. Ever.

MeowPurr said,

Dafuq? This has to be the most retarded comment on Neowin. Ever.

That's a high honor, there's a lot of comments striving for that title.

Yeah 32 million was way way way to much to ask, Decent concept but the whole idea of ubuntu is a free open source os. Paying 600+ for a phone/dockable hybrid is not going to be flying off the shelves at that price.

"Paying 600+ for a phone/dockable hybrid is not going to be flying off the shelves at that price."

For $965 you will get 128 GB storage, 4 GB RAM, the best multi-core processor available when produced, and a GPU that will be able to output full HD to a external screen. This is also a unlocked phone with dual-LTE and GMS, cabale of runing in most networks i US and Europe, and most other countries.

The device will have MHL-port/USB OTG and one 3.5 mm jack plug. The MHL port can deliver full HD and 7.1 surround sound.

The Edge will have Sapphire glass, a surface so hard that you need diamonds to scratch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ1WWRKKelY

Ubuntu Edge will also have a new type battery (silicon-anode Li-Ion battery), that is expectet to have x5 to x10 better capacity than current batteries.

"Nanowire battery can hold 10 times the charge of existing lithium-ion battery"

http://news.stanford.edu/news/...nuary9/nanowire-010908.html
The price for an Ubuntu Edge, a phone that also can run Android, is $695. An Apple iPhone 5 with 64 GB storage and 1 GB RAM costs $850.

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ubuntu-edge/x/4167260

TheCyberKnight said,
Yawn...

And it was said Windows Phone was late into the party.
Ironic.


Windows Phone is late to impose a closed , proprietary system.
Anything open source is welcome.

bigmehdi said,

Windows Phone is late to impose a closed , proprietary system.
Anything open source is welcome.

Hahahahahaha
Like the average consumer cares about open source.

siah1214 said,

Hahahahahaha
Like the average consumer cares about open source.

About as much as the average consumer cares about being spied on, which in my opinion is really quite pathetic. We started a revolutionary war in reponse to an increase of taxes on tea, and now we're sitting here like, "Oh well, I got nothing to hide so the NSA can spy on me while I use my closed source operating system all they want."

I really hope they can do something to make this a reality, because I was seriously tempted to buy the phone even though I don't have a cell phone contract, just to use its computer capabilities while on the go.

Gerowen said,
We started a revolutionary war in reponse to an increase of taxes on tea

It was maybe a little more complicated than that.

Gerowen said,

About as much as the average consumer cares about being spied on, which in my opinion is really quite pathetic. We started a revolutionary war in reponse to an increase of taxes on tea, and now we're sitting here like, "Oh well, I got nothing to hide so the NSA can spy on me while I use my closed source operating system all they want."

I really hope they can do something to make this a reality, because I was seriously tempted to buy the phone even though I don't have a cell phone contract, just to use its computer capabilities while on the go.


Did you just compare open source to the NSA spying? As if they can be related in any way shape or form?

Gerowen said,
We started a revolutionary war in reponse to an increase of taxes on tea

Something something Taxation without representation something something

/something something witty

bigmehdi said,

Windows Phone is late to impose a closed , proprietary system.
Anything open source is welcome.

Nah, Canonical and their chronic NIH syndrome are very much not welcome.

siah1214 said,

Did you just compare open source to the NSA spying? As if they can be related in any way shape or form?

I guess he assumes that the NSA can't compel a carrier to release information about a user if they have an open source product. Laughable to say the least.

Well, that's amazing product. I wanted for something like that for years. It's a computer, which you carry in your pocket. Basically you have everything in your pocket, your email, your files. You come to office and just drop in on the table and hook to monitor and you full desktop experience. Mouse and keyboard is connected wirelessly, but desktop monitor not It's a true mobile computer.

david13lt said,
Well, that's amazing product. I wanted for something like that for years. It's a computer, which you carry in your pocket. Basically you have everything in your pocket, your email, your files. You come to office and just drop in on the table and hook to monitor and you full desktop experience. Mouse and keyboard is connected wirelessly, but desktop monitor not It's a true mobile computer.

Pretty sure ASUS is making one that runs Android and Windows?

Beyond Godlike said,

Pretty sure ASUS is making one that runs Android and Windows?

That's a tablet, though. Not a phone.

Windows tablets can already transform mobile-desktop without the need of adding Android for mobile. An Android-Windows RT phone would be the equivalent, or Windows Phone/Windows RT phone.

Cyborg_X said,
Shocked they even raised $9M.

You clearly don't understand the importance of being able to turn your phone into an unbelievably mediocre workstation!

"Basically you have everything in your pocket, your email, your files. You come to office and just drop in on the table and hook to monitor and you full desktop experience."

Most medium and big companies already has thinclient servers running. With thinclient access you can even run MS Office and business application straight from the phone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtNhlVn3ETQ&t=3m4s