Valve: Some Steam Machines will also have AMD and Intel graphics chips

Last week, Valve announced the preliminary hardware specs for its own prototype Steam Machine that will run its Linux-based SteamOS. The prototypes, which will be sent out to 300 beta testers later this year, will have graphics cards inside made by NVIDIA, including "NVIDIA Titan, some GTX780, some GTX760, and some GTX660" cards. Valve has yet to send out any images of those prototype machines.

However, Valve won't limit Steam Machines to just using graphics from NVIDIA. PCWorld,com reports that, in a statement, Valve said that while the first Steam Machines prototypes will have NVIDIA cards, it insists that the graphics hardware in future Steam Machines will have a variety of choices.

The statement said:

In 2014, there will be Steam Machines commercially available with graphics hardware made by AMD, NVIDIA, and Intel. Valve has worked closely with all three of these companies on optimizing their hardware for SteamOS, and will continue to do so into the foreseeable future.

While AMD's graphics chips, under their Radeon brand, may be used in future Steam Machines, Valve made no mention in its statement that AMD processors will be used for their CPUs in addition to Intel. Valve says it is working with a number of unnamed third party companies that will release PCs that will run SteamOS next year.

Source: PCWorld | Image via Valve

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steam machines will it run crysis on amd and intel?

i doubt it, i think that even valve dont get it, if they want to compete with consoles you need to act like one, we need acceptable optimized console specs, dump down everything but make it user friendly and cheap....

So basically, Valve is not going to have any hardware guidelines, they are just going to release SteamOS and it can be used on almost any hardware configuration.

This isn't really shocking. Its just a pc with SteamOS, nothing particularly different here.

The beta testing is more about the software than the hardware since we are not talking about custom hardware.

trooper11 said,
So basically, Valve is not going to have any hardware guidelines, they are just going to release SteamOS and it can be used on almost any hardware configuration.

This isn't really shocking. Its just a pc with SteamOS, nothing particularly different here.

The beta testing is more about the software than the hardware since we are not talking about custom hardware.

Using such logic the next gen consoles are nothing more than "just PCs" either, I'm sure you'll agree artificial restrictions on the software/hardware do not purely constitute what a console is.

The form factor is what's important here.

Um, the next gen consoles are using modified versions of pc hardware. Just because they are both using x86 cpus does not mean they are unmodified. Steambox hardware will not be custom in any way, just off the shelf pc parts.

I didn't even mention the word console, or that a Steambox could not be considered one. In fact I agree that Steamboxes will be considered like consoles since they will be running SteamOS only, meaning that users will play games or run apps that are offered via Steam only.

What constitutes a console in my mind is form factor and some form of 'closed' environment. By closed I don't mean whether something is open source or not, but instead a device running software that offers a single marketplace to get apps, media, and games. People buying a ps4 live in the psn marketplace. People buying an X1 live in the xbl marketplace. People buying a Steambox will live in the Steam marketplace.

I'm waiting to see if there is a real advantage to building a Steambox vs a windows pc with Steam installed in terms of performance or some other feature.

trooper11 said,
Um, the next gen consoles are using modified versions of pc hardware. Just because they are both using x86 cpus does not mean they are unmodified. Steambox hardware will not be custom in any way, just off the shelf pc parts.

A few meaningless co-processors and unified memory, big whoop.

trooper11 said,
What constitutes a console in my mind is form factor and some form of 'closed' environment. By closed I don't mean whether something is open source or not, but instead a device running software that offers a single marketplace to get apps, media, and games. People buying a ps4 live in the psn marketplace. People buying an X1 live in the xbl marketplace. People buying a Steambox will live in the Steam marketplace.

So you start out by saying Steam Machines are just a PC, then you go on to say in the above that according to your opinion, Steam Machines qualify as console.

What?

Athernar said,

The form factor is what's important here.

Missed all those other small form factors machines out there?

Athernar said,

What does that have to do with anything?

You originally said: "The form factor is what's important here."

Clearly it's not. There are plenty of comparable machines already out there.

ROFLCOPTERS said,

You originally said: "The form factor is what's important here."

Clearly it's not. There are plenty of comparable machines already out there.

Still not seeing the relevance of existing machines to the point that what defines a console is it's form factor.

Athernar said,

A few meaningless co-processors and unified memory, big whoop.

So you start out by saying Steam Machines are just a PC, then you go on to say in the above that according to your opinion, Steam Machines qualify as console.

What?

lol my goodness man, I never said that a steambox could not be considered a console. I only said that they are using off the shelf pc parts and that means that it does not require beta testing in that regard. Game developers don't need to have time with the hardware like they would with a traditional console.

let me lay it out for you:

Steamboxes take elements from the pc market and the console market into one device. From the pc market, they adopt off the shelf pc parts that anyone can change as they wish and don't create some kind of hardware standard. From the console market, they adopt a closed environment in that they funnel all users into their own Steam platform.

I'm really not sure why its so bad that I would call a steambox a pc. Its a mix of both, but the hardware side of it is definitely pc-like.

trooper11 said,

lol my goodness man, I never said that a steambox could not be considered a console.

Uh yeah, you did:

trooper11 said,

This isn't really shocking. Its just a pc with SteamOS, nothing particularly different here.

Unless my desktop PC is also a console now, you very much did say that. So hey, don't blame me for your particular choice of wording.

Alright, obviously you misunderstood me. Remember, I was responding to an article about different hardware choices. So yes, when it comes to hardware, a Steambox is no different than any other pc you would buy or build.

What makes it more like a console is its OS. This article wasn't talking about the software side. Sorry if that came off as something else.

Majesticmerc said,
Why? Steam works pretty well as it is...

Isn't that his point? It works pretty well as it is? So there isn't a need for a Steam Machine?

rfirth said,

Isn't that his point? It works pretty well as it is? So there isn't a need for a Steam Machine?

That doesn't even make any sense.

Steam Machines is an initiative to provide pre-built gaming PCs in a form factor acceptable to the livingroom, Steam has nothing to do with it.

Athernar said,

That doesn't even make any sense.

Steam Machines is an initiative to provide pre-built gaming PCs in a form factor acceptable to the livingroom, Steam has nothing to do with it.


With intel graphics? Are you joking?

Riva said,

With intel graphics? Are you joking?

Not all of them will use Intel graphics?

Not every game is graphically intensive?

littleneutrino said,
I pitty anyone that gets one with an Intel graphics chipset or AMD in it lol.
Fixed.

Hi! You won the beta! Here is your lump of crap!

Riva said,
You just spent £600 on steam machine and it turns out it plays Crysis at 1FPS due to intel graphics

1080P, 60SPF!

Those with Intel graphics will almost certainly be used primarily for streaming games from PCs and casual / indie games rather than competing with consoles. One of the strengths of Steam Machines is the flexibility, with consumers able to pick the model with the price that suits them.

XorpiZ said,
So in other words, it's just another PC which will most likely be more expensive than a PC with better specs.

There will be multiple competing manufacturers with different specs, designs and pricing. There's no reason for it to be any more expensive than a comparable PC as there are no licensing fees to drive up the price but the small form factor may make it slightly more expensive than a comparable desktop PC. It also remains to be seen whether Valve will provide any incentives to gamers, like free games (maybe even Half-Life 3), as that could actually make Steam Machines a more attractive proposition than traditional PCs.

Riva said,
So I buy a steam machine to stream games from my PC...

If that's what you want. Or you could buy one to play games that rival or exceed the quality and framerate available on next-gen consoles.

theyarecomingforyou said,

If that's what you want. Or you could buy one to play games that rival or exceed the quality and framerate available on next-gen consoles.


How I bought I just buy a console?

littleneutrino said,
I pitty anyone that gets one with an Intel graphics chipset in it lol.

I would make the assumption the intel chipset machines are designed for streaming only. In which case, I'd certainly consider getting one if the pricepoint was right as my main PC is certainly powerful enough.

theyarecomingforyou said,
Those with Intel graphics will almost certainly be used primarily for streaming games from PCs and casual / indie games rather than competing with consoles. One of the strengths of Steam Machines is the flexibility, with consumers able to pick the model with the price that suits them.

As opposed to every other PC maker out there who offers....similar choices?

theyarecomingforyou said,
Those with Intel graphics will almost certainly be used primarily for streaming games from PCs and casual / indie games rather than competing with consoles. One of the strengths of Steam Machines is the flexibility, with consumers able to pick the model with the price that suits them.

Why would anyone do this, seriously? We can already 'stream' PC games to our phones and tablets.

Mobius Enigma said,
We can already 'stream' PC games to our phones and tablets.

What has streaming PC games to phones and tablets got to do with Steam Machines? And even if you can stream PC games to phones and tablets (which I am not aware of) they don't have a suitable interface to play them. I mean, streaming Far Cry 3 to my phone isn't going to do much good without having a controller or mouse+keyboard to play it on.

Steam Machines will allow people to play games natively or stream them from a nearby PC, with varying price points to appeal to different consumers. That's something that will appeal to a lot of gamers.

theyarecomingforyou said,

There will be multiple competing manufacturers with different specs, designs and pricing. There's no reason for it to be any more expensive than a comparable PC as there are no licensing fees to drive up the price but the small form factor may make it slightly more expensive than a comparable desktop PC. It also remains to be seen whether Valve will provide any incentives to gamers, like free games (maybe even Half-Life 3), as that could actually make Steam Machines a more attractive proposition than traditional PCs.

It's still just a PC, which will most likely be more expensive, since the OEM's can't put crapware on it.

I get it, you're a fanboy, but you should get real.

XorpiZ said,

It's still just a PC, which will most likely be more expensive, since the OEM's can't put crapware on it.

I get it, you're a fanboy, but you should get real.

I have no intention of buying one but can see its value in the market place.