Virgin Media doubles cable bandwidth to 20Mbit

THE NEWLY RE-BRANDED cable operator Virgin Media, previously known as NTL:Telewest, has officially announced plans to double the maximum speed of UK cable-based internet services.

Virgin Media will introduce a new 20Mbit cable internet offering, up from the previous 10Mbit product, in June. The company has already undertaken successful user beta trials of the 20Mbit service.The company has also announced plans to increase the product range to include a incredibly fast 50Mbit service. 'As an end-to-end network owner, cable has inbuilt advantages in the quality of broadband service that we offer,' the company said in a financial results statement this week.

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Good news for cable customers, especially after loosing Sky One and other Sky channels. Shame they share bandwidth on a street, when I had cable my connection was good until all my neightbours logged on, then the speed used be poor as bandwidth is shared between neighbours on a street.

Bit more info for those not in the UK...

NTL/Virgin cable is by no means nationwide. Infact it's only available to something like half the population.

BT's network is truly nationwide offering up to 8mbit (448kbps upstream) on nearly all phone exchanges. Again 8mbit is only available to those living closest to the exchange (something like 20%) and then the speeds decrease as the distance increases. They're also trialling some fibre optic technologies and an ADSL2+ (24mbit) product slated for next year.

Yep any dsl based service is very affected by routing distance from exchange.

I used to live less than 5Km from my exchange but was only getting about 7mbs down and 1.1mbs up on a 24mbs connection

So with any dsl service your milage will vary with cable it is normally a lot more consistant and less affected by distance

ADSL sucks, I'm still on 512KB, hoping to upgrade to 8MB soon but it will still have a 20GB cap were as my current connection has no cap.

Wish we got cable in this area, your offered so much more. My brother is on Telewest and he was telling me how he gets sky sports and stuff free now when I was down his at the weekend.

You can get far better deals, all the providers I've been with have been unlimited or have had ridiculously high caps (i.e. Sky is 16Mb speed and 350GB cap for £10/month).

For those complaining about not getting actual 10Mbit speeds how about trying to download from a source which is able to provide you with that sort of speed. Don't expect 10Mbit torrent download speeds any time soon

Why do we, in the US, have to pay high prices for such small bandwidth? I get 3Mbps Down and around 512Mbps up... It sucks!

I'm curious to know where this notion of the upgrade being free for 10MB users is coming from. I've read nothing of a sort from any reliable source whatsoever.

i think it has got to the point where you dont get to use does 10 20 30 50 mbps because is just too much most of the times... they need to start sharing this speeds with internet tv, internet telephone... now that would be really cool, and what about more upload speed??? i think thats what we need but at this rate i see us getting 100mbps download 1mbps upload before decent internet tv... or anything that would actually consume that bandwith.

for me a cool deal right now would be 20mbps down 5mbps up with good quality internet tv and voip as standard =P

"its great now branson has taken contro"
branson has *NOTHING* to do with virgin media, its still that ****ty ntl that run it. I have the top package on ntl (virgin media) and this must be a publicity stunt, i get 4Mb TOPS, when i am supposed to get 10Mb. They are complete idiotic morons that lie there way through saying you get all this stuff when you dont, thank god sky dumped ntl, they are an appauling company and trading standards should have destroyed them years ago

n_K said,
"its great now branson has taken contro"
branson has *NOTHING* to do with virgin media, its still that ****ty ntl that run it. I have the top package on ntl (virgin media) and this must be a publicity stunt, i get 4Mb TOPS, when i am supposed to get 10Mb. They are complete idiotic morons that lie there way through saying you get all this stuff when you dont, thank god sky dumped ntl, they are an appauling company and trading standards should have destroyed them years ago

I'm on 10Mb as well, and am lucky if I get 2Mb. They don't seem to know what the problem is as it has been like this for a few months now.

Where?!

Wherever it is, I think I'll move there.

We pay about $40 for DSL. Incredibly better than dialup, but not necessarily good compared to cable

:eek: I hope they push the upload speeds past at least 1MBit when they roll it out nationwide! Please please please! Thankyouplease!

cheesegoduk said,
You was downloading at 7mbit speeds? Wow... I'm amazed at the 20mbit service

You have misunderstood, please re-read.

Well good luck using your 20MB connection between 6pm and midnight when they finally roll out their traffic shaping/bandwidth throttling across the entire network.

JJ_ said,
Looks like someone has had bad experience with ADSL.


Nay, I'm an old Blueyonder customer who's used to a full-throttle 24/7 connection. I'm not looking forward to having my bandwidth usage limited.

jmc777 said,


Nay, I'm an old Blueyonder customer who's used to a full-throttle 24/7 connection. I'm not looking forward to having my bandwidth usage limited.

Hear hear. No point in faster speeds if they throttle it to less than what you should have been getting originally :mad:

As it stands there are few sources on the web that can support 10mbit nevermind 20 so i don't know what everyone is getting excited about.

Usenet and a few lesser used FTP servers (with multi connection support) are the only items that ever give me my 10mbit and this isnt a utilisation issue in my area :/. I fear there will be a large incrase in complaints along the lines of "wheres my 20mbit.!!!?!?" which seems to happen as it stands for 10mbit. A good percentage of cases i've seen so far are source servers not being able to give 10mbit out yet the users can not understand this and continue to whine alot :/.

Meh it'll be nice to have, when using say usenet or ftp but tbh i see it being a pain for virgin media. Theres also the issue of capacity upgrades to support it. I'd imagine it'll take atleast a year for areas already with borderline capacity to get uggraded. It takes alot of time and planning on VM's part to do capacity upgrades so i hope this doesnt cause more issues in this respect too.

Shall be interesting to see what happens

But what about using multiple services at once? I think its silly for anyone to assume that 5mb isnt fast enough right now for any one task... but what about running multiple tasks at once...?

20 meg down is all good but what will be the up speed. currently with the 10 meg we're getting 512k..

Yikes 512? heck on Comcast we are getting 6Mbit down and 768Kbit up, thas more of a proportion then 10 down 512 up...

Actually we only get 384K on 10Mb down on Blueyonder. Unless you have a different 10Mb to me.

512K = 64,000B/s
384K = 48,000B/s

I've never been able to go over 48,000 neither has anyone else I know on 10Mb Blueyonder.

neufuse said,
Yikes 512? heck on Comcast we are getting 6Mbit down and 768Kbit up, thas more of a proportion then 10 down 512 up...

Not quite 768kbps as they claim. When I first sign up for it, that is the one thing that I want but instead it's 384kbps, NOT 768kbps. I may have to call and clarify this matter. Yeah 384kbps=48kBps. If I got 768kbps, that is 96kBps, it would be so awesome.

Krome said,

Not quite 768kbps as they claim. When I first sign up for it, that is the one thing that I want but instead it's 384kbps, NOT 768kbps. I may have to call and clarify this matter. Yeah 384kbps=48kBps. If I got 768kbps, that is 96kBps, it would be so awesome.

I get 768Kbit down, but I am in a Adelphia conversion area, we seem to of goten treated better... and I can pull 96KB/ps up perfectly fine

I was wondering what happened to the NTL 100mbit trial they have been running for about a year in Ashford, Kent.

Now NTL is owned by Virgin.

Anyone know?

leesmithg said,
I was wondering what happened to the NTL 100mbit trial they have been running for about a year in Ashford, Kent.

Now NTL is owned by Virgin.

Anyone know?

Yes, the trial at the time showed the network would not be able to handle it but in December last year NTL CEO (now VM) hinted at 100Mb for Xmas 2007. I doubt it though.

DarkGashX said,

Yes, the trial at the time showed the network would not be able to handle it but in December last year NTL CEO (now VM) hinted at 100Mb for Xmas 2007. I doubt it though.


Hey thanks for info, stops me from being envious now ha ha.

Damn Comcast still lagging behind... can't get any good service... been paying over 65$ for around 10 years now

Knew about this a couple of days ago. Everyone on 10Mb will be upgraded to 20Mb by June (including myself :)) for FREE. Plus, a 50Mb trial is in progress right now and they hope to launch it in June as a new top tier at a rumored £55 a month. Since RB took over NTL this company is getting better and better.

And you'll be throttled if you have the audacity to actually use the full bandwidth for any amount of time! As so many of us are currently experiencing!

Just moved into a new flat that is cabled. Cannot get Sky and I'm not bothered about the loss of the Sky channels. Never watched Sky One and the others are pants anyway. Looks like I'm gonna be signing up for VM VIP package. Sky Movies and Sky Sports bundled for free and get VOD inclusive too along with 10Mbit BB (soon to be 20Mbit), and free phone calls.

My AOL contract finishes July 26th.

Unless they can offer me the same service, then 20mbit service seems o.k.

I have bskyb, bt and aol, if I combine them all to Virgin in July I will save about £15 per month, might be worth ago.

only decent channel lost is sky one, others i couldnt care about and i also wouldnt want virgin paying ~£40m a year for it. i wouldn't go saying sky one is the best channel, sports/movies/uktv channels are a lot better

InsaneNutter said,
With internet at that speed i carnt see downloading anything that woud be shown on Sky like Lost and 24 been a major problem!

they lost a profit of 60m a year and 3 million customers and tbh i think sky made a **** poor move lol sod em virgin central and virgin central 2 are far better ,, since i can choose what i watch and when i watch it , plus virign will most likely get the shows direct from the tv stations and not sky so sky lost out