Virginia Tech killer purchased ammunition clips on eBay

A spokesman for eBay confirmed that the Virginia Tech killer used the handle Blazers5505 on the auction site to buy two 10-round magazines for the Walther P22 – one of two handguns used in the massacre of 32 people. The clips were bought March 22 from a gun shop in Idaho. His eBay rating was a superb 98.5%: only one person gave him a negative rating. The site says the person has had an account since January 2004. Seung-Hui Cho also sold several books with violent themes, tickets to Hokies football games, and a graphics calculator that contained several games. The eBay material is part of investigators' efforts to pore through electronic records for a hint as to what drove the man to go on shooting rampage.

Authorities sought Cho's cell phone records on the chance he warned someone about what would become the nation's worst mass shooting in modern history. They also hope to glean any relevant information from his e-mail and that of Emily Hilscher, one of the first two victims. Investigators said in court papers that Cho and Hilscher may have communicated by computer. "Seung-Hui Cho is known to have communicated by cellular telephone and may have communicated with others concerning his plans to carry out attacks on students and faculty at Virginia Tech," police wrote Friday in an affidavit seeking records from Verizon Wireless. Another possible clue is his regular calls home to his parents on Sunday evenings. Another affidavit sought Cho's records from the student health center, and police obtained his medical and counseling files.

News source: Newsday.com

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If there weren't guns, people would go on hammer rampages.

If people want to kill, they are going to kill with whatever they have available. You can't blame it on anyone or anything except the person who killed.

Yeah i have to agree with you there, theres loads of weapons readily available that you could use to take out 32 people without breaking a sweat.

goatsniffer said,
If there weren't guns, people would go on hammer rampages.

Agree. Axes and pitchforks are popular in my country between rednecks to sort out family or party issues. :)

goatsniffer said,
If people want to kill, they are going to kill with whatever they have available.

Yeah, like with a little yellow rubber duck.

who cares if he bought pistol magazines (yes, they're magazines, not clips) on eBay? i buy stuff for my guns on eBay all the time, including magazines. magazines aren't regulated by the federal government anymore, so as long as the seller didn't ship a high-capacity magazine to one of the few states that still ban them, the seller and eBay did nothing wrong.

Honestly, who cares. You can purchase all kinds of things on eBay, and it's not like the clips are illegal, they are below the federal limit of 14 rounds.

Why not talk about the little yellow ducks that he also bought on eBay? I find that more disturbing.

^^ Yeah I might have to agree with you on some points - the parental sacrifice, the pressure to do well in school etc. however the fact remains that none of your friends shot people during their schooling. None of my Asian friends have either. In fact, I'm pretty sure that there are a load of other kids all around the world who come from academically driven families who are not going to be inclined to shoot anyone anytime soon.

@RAID - Congratulations, you've just made a spectacular ass of yourself. There are "crazies" everywhere including in your own country so shutting borders isn't going to solve the issue.

oooo eBay!! This is news...

No wait this is completely irrellevant and uninteresting.

I use ebay too, does that mean something Neowin news staff?

No, it wasn't the video games. My theory:

I bet you it was because his parents beat him to death mentally for not being academically tough enough to go to a Princeton or a Harvard, like his sister. I mean, Virginia Tech's a great school, but probably a far cry from an Ivy in their mind. They probably told him that they sacrificed a lot to come to the U.S. so that he could make something of himself, not to "waste away" as an English major with no future job security or earning potential. You know, "earn a lot of money to take care of us," and then he saw what money got other kids and he resented it. I have a lot of asian friends; some got so much B.S. for becoming a liberal arts major because the parents thought it was worthless, so I can see where a lot of resentment would come about.

The family's remained surprisingly mum about it. Maybe he was a bit psycho as well, but Asian parents are notorious for being a little too tough on their kids and attributing mental illnesses for lack of mental strength. My friend's parents believed that issues of self-esteem and self-image are due to lack of academic achievement, and it's best to be pushed until confidence comes about. I think a lot of Asian parents pull this kind of crap, actually.

Still, it doesn't absolve him from what he's done, because ultimately he's responsible for his actions and for killing 32 innocent people, but I'm surprised nobody's explored this theory.

hope not but. I mean he sold a magazine not ammo and secondly the shooter would have just picked any other auction or gone elsewhere anyway. I wouldnt say he aided him in killing the people what so ever.

Hopefully he doesnt guilt himself for the next 20 years.

Smigit said,
hope not but. I mean he sold a magazine not ammo and secondly the shooter would have just picked any other auction or gone elsewhere anyway. I wouldnt say he aided him in killing the people what so ever.

Hopefully he doesnt guilt himself for the next 20 years.

he has nothing to be guilt filled about. get a grip

Well obviously, I said the same thing. Doesnt mean there arent people out there that would feel partially responsible if they had sold the magazines/clips/guns whatever.

Sue eBay!! Clips, ammo, it doesn't matter. They HELPED HIM DO HIS DEED. :p

Funny how they don't go on about that like they do with video games he didn't play.

Nose Nuggets said,
the guns he used don't even use clips, they use magazines.

My SKS uses a stripper clip. The M1 Grande uses a clip. You're right though... most guns don't use clips.

I don't get the anti-gun arguments after this ordeal. Why is no one saying "shut the borders so more crazies can't get in?" Yeah, it's always a guns fault, not the whack job holding it. :-/

RAID 0 said,
Why is no one saying "shut the borders so more crazies can't get in?" Yeah, it's always a guns fault, not the whack job holding it. :-/
I doubt that would work. The 'whack' jobs happen to be American more often than not in these US shootings, not someone that came to visit 2 weeks earlier.

it says he bought the clips people...

clips are empty. they're just holsters... he didn't buy the AMMO on e-bay.

edit @ the post above mine... he sold the tickets, didn't buy them.

Makes sense, since he was a loner I doubt he was interested in any large public events. I reckon he rather sit at his dorm and do whatever he did in his free time.

I grow really tired of listening to these arguments. It does not really matter where he got his piece and ammo from. It does not matter if it came from Ebay or the back trunk of someone's car. If you want a gun bad enough, you will always be able to buy one. There is no legislation that can stop this (at least not in the United States).

From a personal perspective, given the lack of the ability of law enforcement to control the situation, I think it best be advised that every citizen have the right to have a firearm (provided proper training and certification). It might also be helpful for both men and women to take self defense classes (hell, people could at least use the exercise).

Please do not take my words out of context and somehow construe them to mean that I blame the students or faculty members of VT (this could not be farther from the truth). I don't blame law enforcement either. I just found law enforcement to be ineffective in this circumstances (probably due to a lack of proper training and communication in the field).

i totally agree with you!

if everyone could get pistols without alot of effort and carry them damn near wherever they wanted that school shooting could have been MUCH LESS DEATHS!

i cant stand those groups of people that are "anti-firearms" cause the bottom line is if they banned guns in the USA then only the bad guys would have them!... thats a fact.

heres a perfect example of what i mean why it's a bad idea to severly limit the use of firearms in general... http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20349

If nobody is allowed a firearm, it's easier to spot who shouldn't have one. (Which is everyone)

If you have one, you get arrested. End of.

ThaCrip said,
i totally agree with you!

if everyone could get pistols without alot of effort and carry them damn near wherever they wanted that school shooting could have been MUCH LESS DEATHS!

i cant stand those groups of people that are "anti-firearms" cause the bottom line is if they banned guns in the USA then only the bad guys would have them!... thats a fact.

heres a perfect example of what i mean why it's a bad idea to severly limit the use of firearms in general... http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=20349

Yes imagine that, a firefight where no one know who the real bad guy is.... Life is not a video game, the badguy is not flashing and yellow.

But even if by some miracle the shooting did stop after a few shot, after a concerned student felled the badguy. Does living with the constant danger of firearm misuse offset this moment ?

M2Ys4U said,
If nobody is allowed a firearm, it's easier to spot who shouldn't have one. (Which is everyone)

If you have one, you get arrested. End of.


Yeah! We all know "the authorities" will stop any robbery, homicide, rape, or mass murderer instantly! Just huddle in a corner and wait for the cavalry to arrive.

(note: for those with non-functioning sarcasm meters, try replacing the battery, I suggest NiMH type for longer life)

dhitb said,

Yeah! We all know "the authorities" will stop any robbery, homicide, rape, or mass murderer instantly! Just huddle in a corner and wait for the cavalry to arrive.

(note: for those with non-functioning sarcasm meters, try replacing the battery, I suggest NiMH type for longer life)


Or you could move to the UK, where few people have guns and people think before commenting.

Why are they telling people where they got the ammo clips, why are they piecing everything together. People seem to hate this, but its quite useful. The FBI and Secret service are able to figure out what happened. This is important because a profile can be made of the person capable of doing this. It will help identify and stop other incidents (hopefully) and help others before they even get close to doing it. The Secret Service said on CNN, they've already sent training videos to teachers with info they pieced from other incidents.

I don't think this incident should be reason enough to carry guns. Carrying a gun can escalate the violence or deadliness of a situation quickly where it would be solved peacefully otherwise.

Co_Co said,
Great, selling ammo and weapons to people with out proper checks.

It's not ammo, it was just the magazines. You can buy them without a license online. What are you going to do with a magazine if you don't already have a gun?

He could have just as easily ordered them from a website, but I guess he was trying to save money?

toadeater said,

It's not ammo, it was just the magazines. You can buy them without a license online. What are you going to do with a magazine if you don't already have a gun?

He could have just as easily ordered them from a website, but I guess he was trying to save money? :wacko:

haha that was funny lol. Maybe they were like extended clips so he didn't need to reload as much. Haha I could just see it now "i need a clip with 32 shots were would I look for something that obscure ding ebay."

toadeater said,

It's not ammo, it was just the magazines. You can buy them without a license online. What are you going to do with a magazine if you don't already have a gun?

He could have just as easily ordered them from a website, but I guess he was trying to save money? :wacko:

Why would you save money if you were to suicide ?