Weekend Poll: Are you a Hotmail user?

We hope that everyone here at Neowin (and also NeoGamr, our recently launched gaming website) is enjoying their Easter weekend, and as always we have a poll up for you guys.

Following the epic 90-minute video from the Hotmail team responding to your very own questions, this weekend we're posing the question to you whether you are in fact a Hotmail user. Alternatively, maybe you prefer the mail service provided by Google or Yahoo; perhaps from another provider such as our very own Neowin Mail, disposable email addresses from Mailinator or even comically long addresses from www.abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzabcdefghijk.com

Of course you may have accounts at a number of email services, so please vote for the email provider that you use primarily and most often.

As always you can vote below in the poll and leave a comment with your opinion. Enjoy the rest of the weekend, and if it's like us down here in Australia have fun over the four-day break.

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Are you primarily a Hotmail user?

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I use hotmail, but with my own domain.

Doesn't matter which webmail service you use, if you use their domain name spam will find you.

Use your own and the risk of getting spam is directly related to how many websites you sign up to.

Well I did use Gmail for my personal email for many years until I got my own domain. Now I use Office 365. Still get a lot of messages sent to the Gmail account but never send anything from it anymore. Of course I still use the Gmail account for signing into other Google services. I also have a Hotmail (@live.com) address for games, forums, other internet stuff.

It's worth noting that both MS and Google offer mail/apps hosting on your own domain for free. If I had to choose between free Hotmail/Skydrive/Office Web Apps and free Gmail/Google Apps, I'd go with the former simply because it integrates better with Outlook and other Office 2010 programs, plus Hotmail lets you have unlimited accounts on your domain.

@live for my personal email. I signed up for gmail back when it was new, used it about a week and forgot about it. I wonder if its still active lol

For online buying and banking i use Gmail,

For singing upto websites i use Hotmail

Hotmail is annoying, for instance in my installation of FireFox, the inbox in Hotmail will just reload every half a second and its a full reload / refresh which makes the tab words change to "logging in" and then "hotmail sign in" then "inbox" and its very distracting. I cant leave Hotmail open in a tab, its to distracting.

WarioTBH said,
For online buying and banking i use Gmail,

For singing upto websites i use Hotmail

Hotmail is annoying, for instance in my installation of FireFox, the inbox in Hotmail will just reload every half a second and its a full reload / refresh which makes the tab words change to "logging in" and then "hotmail sign in" then "inbox" and its very distracting. I cant leave Hotmail open in a tab, its to distracting.

so stop using fartfox as your browser and use a real browser like Opera

I have a @live address but my primary email is an @gmail address.
However I use Windows Live Mail and the address is a personal @mysite.com address so nobody actually knows I use GMail unless they look at the headers.

I can easily switch any time I need to.

I have a @live.com.au address which I use solely for Windows Live Messenger, and an @live.com email address that I use for Zune.

For personal email, I use Exchange via Sherweb. I used to use Gmail but I got sick of Google Outlook Calendar Sync screwing stuff up, then Gmail POP Access went to hell in a handbasket, so I forked out the $28 for three months of Exchange. I now cannot imagine life without it.

One Hotmail account that as of last month is now 10 years old. I should've dropped it years ago given how silly the email address was, but I never got around to telling all my Messenger contacts to stop using it. That, and Messenger's new way of adding contacts absolutely sucks.

Got a Live.ca address for personal and professional correspondence after realizing using my ISP email address was a bad idea, as I would probably want to switch ISPs in the near future.

My university email is now powered by Live@edu. Privacy concerns aside, it's far better than the IMAP-based email backend from years' past, and plus it has Exchange ActiveSync like the rest of my accounts, so all is good on my phone.

Other active addresses include my ISP email (powered by Yahoo), this site's email (Gmail), and a separate Gmail address for use on Google-owned sites.

I have a Yahoo, Live, and GMail account.

Yahoo is for spam. (~50,000 spam mail a year). Live is for internet websites and other internet stuff. Gmail is for work, school, friends, family, etc.

I also have my own personal domain email going through Hotmail servers. I get the perks of my vanity domain and none of the paying for servers or connectivity to keep them running.

I have used HoTMaiL way before MS purchased the company. At the time there were few altarnatives.

I happily left Hotmail for Gmail's unlimited storage when MS only allowed 2 or 10 MB of storage and no free POP or IMAP access.

Google led the way so I went with them, MS was stingy so I left them for good.

derekaw said,
I have used HoTMaiL way before MS purchased the company. At the time there were few altarnatives.

I happily left Hotmail for Gmail's unlimited storage when MS only allowed 2 or 10 MB of storage and no free POP or IMAP access.

Google led the way so I went with them, MS was stingy so I left them for good.

That's funny I seem to remember Hotmail offering me 5GB storage befor I'd ever heard of Gmail and now I get 25GB for free and I'm still with hotmail

A couple years ago I was looking to cleanup my online presence into 1 email address, and get rid of AIM, so I chose Hotmail, the only reason I keep that account is in-case I need to get my password back form a handful of forums, I use GMail mainly now, and that came about simply because Microsoft was being stupid, and didn't sync my iPhones notes. It's amazing how the little details will kill an entire service.

Got three Hotmail addresses, one is lost to history because I can't recover the password... one is my normal hotmail, one is @neowin.net

DerAusgewanderte said,
yes, and I prefer gmail.
odd poll....

Not really... We just had a huge feature of answers from the Hotmail team by questions from Neowin members.

The Poll isn't complete, as it is missing an option for people that use a custom domain, and then aggregate/pull their email into Hotmail for better client access and features. Also people that use Hotmail to aggregate several email accounts into separate folders inside Hotmail, as it preserves the custom domain in the 'From' of your emails for all your accounts that it is pulling into the Hotmail interface.

Example: "I use Hotmail as my primary Email system, but have a custom domain."

There are many people that have LiveID/Passport/Microsoft Accounts that use an alternative domain, for example: joe@joesdomain.com instead of @live or @hotmail or @msn

They then use the 'Get your email delivered to Hotmail' feature, which pulls in the email from the custom domain, and sets up Hotmail as the primary 'mechanism' for accessing and seeing email.

It has become a more common option of keeping your original/custom email address and domain, and then aggregating your email from that Domain and other Email accounts around the Web into Hotmail as folders.


There are a few reasons why this works really well...

To start with, Hotmail now uses 'Exchange' technology in communication to clients. (So people complaining about no IMAP support, should just use the Exchange features of their email client if there is not native Hotmail support (connector).

The Exchange importance is felt when Synchronizing your account, as email is delivered in the old school 'push' manner it was loved for, so your email clients is always up to date if you choose, even on your Android or iOS, and especially WP7 devices.

So if you have your provider/own/company email server, especially ones that still have trouble with POP3 and IMAP when keeping your mail on the server Hotmail is a good solution.

This also gives you a far more rich 'web client' for accessing email that any non-Exchange email server offers, as Hotmail does well with Web Email access.

If you have multiple email accounts scattered around the web, by using Hotmail, you can combine them into a single location, in their own folder structure but using a single sign login.

Since Hotmail is pulling your email from various other accounts, it will also let you use that email address for each of the accounts when sending out an email. So the 'From/Reply' appears as your email address from the other account, even though you are sending it from Hotmail. Ex: From: joe@joesdomain.com - People will never notice you are using Hotmail to access your email accounts.

Another good reason to use Hotmail even for non-Hotmail/Live accounts is when you are a smartphone user, as most have integrated Hotmail client support or a custom Hotmail App that is going to offer features that your phone's traditional Mail POP3/IMAP client cannot even handle, and often can't do it without a massive performance tradeoff.

(WP7 inherently supports Hotmail as expected and even non-hotmail accounts can handle a huge amount of email and retain it on your phone if you need to do so.)

Even just no longer dealing with 'out of sync' issues is a life/time saver.

So as a smartphone user...

On WP7 or with the Hotmail Client App on Android/iOS, you can keep your entire 'inbox', 'other inboxes' and folders on your Phone without number of email restrictions, size restrictions and still have 'instant' access to your email account even when dealing with 10s to 100s of thousands of email messages in an Inbox.

This is one place WP7 shines for me personally as it is caching and maintaining my large inbox that is over 4GB in size and has over 50,000 emails. Which are all available on my phone at any time, instantly available, and very handy as they also appear in the 'contacts' history of email/messages/calls/etc,.

It is quite amazing when you see a huge number of emails in your WP7 inbox, that loads instantly and then do a search for something and have the results appearing as you type. This is something desktop email clients like Thunderbird (insert any non-outlook client) can't even do.

So WP7, especially when paired with a single Hotmail Account that is used to host all your email address/accounts becomes a powerful tool that is also a sharp contrast coming from Blackberry or Android or iOS where performance and synchronization issues start to present themselves at in the 100-1000 messages in the inbox range.

(The design is very must like Outlook having a 40GB PST local file and a 25GB corporate exchange inbox with millions of emails, and yet Outlook 2010 will open instantly and search them instantly and sync them instantly.)

So by using Hotmail you can get an 'exchange' server feel and single client access to all your email, which is really handy when using the web interface at a kiosk/friend's machine and using a single and highly secure login to access them in one place.


(Add in the other 'Live' aggregation features that are beyond email, like the Facebook, LinkedIn connectors and you also can have integration with these social network features and services all from one place and one login via Live.com.)

PS: The poll should be reworked with the non @hotmail @msn @live live option, as I am very vocal Hotmail support that recommends it for people that do not want or have the need of a @hotmail or @live email address.

Hotmail since 2001, however I use GMail everyday and back important stuff up to hotmail.

Still can't see the stigma an @hotmail.com email address is supposed to suffer. Doesn't bother me.

tuckeratlarge said,
Hotmail since 2001, however I use GMail everyday and back important stuff up to hotmail.

Still can't see the stigma an @hotmail.com email address is supposed to suffer. Doesn't bother me.

And this is the crazy part people don't talk about... If you have joe@joesdomain.com you can create your LiveID/Passpwort/MS Account with that address, and then tell Hotmail to pull the email from your @joesdomain.com server. This gives you all the features of Hotmail that are better than a hosting provider or your own company/personal server offer (unless they are Exchange servers.)

So the @hotmail thing, even if bothers people, is irrelevant, as you don't have to create or have or use any of the Microsoft domains to get the features and functionality of Hotmail.

thenetavenger said,
If you have joe@joesdomain.com you can create your LiveID/Passpwort/MS Account with that address, and then tell Hotmail to pull the email from your @joesdomain.com server.

Or use the Live domain service. You let your own domains MX entries and that stuff point to the Hotmail servers, and your @joesdomain email IS your hotmail account.

tuckeratlarge said,
Hotmail since 2001, however I use GMail everyday and back important stuff up to hotmail.

Still can't see the stigma an @hotmail.com email address is supposed to suffer. Doesn't bother me.

Many years ago, I think it was 1998, MS bought Hotmail to lure the subscribers of the service to use other sites, like Expedia, MSN.com and CarPoint, that were at the time part of MSN Network.
For a certain amount of time Hotmail was plagued by a very high amount of SPAM; as usual furious debates went on and on about what was the reason: personally I believe it was a combination of MS being a little bit naïve and an objective, exponential growth of the SPAM phenomenon. Anyway since that time MS and all the other providers have become much better in fighting unwanted emails and, at least in my personal experience, nowadays the SPAM issue is almost non existent.

I have two gmail (one for professional and one for personal immediate use). I have two live accounts (one is for my Xbox and other stuff required by Microsoft to have and the other is for SPAM).

Wow, only 1.5% for Yahoo mail. Yes, yahoo is my primary email. They've been offering POP access since I first got it in 2001'ish. They also offered more storage than Hotmail's 2MB at the time.

I have had a msn mail account for 14 years. However I prefer gmail email and services. I have tried to like hotmail, I really have, I switched over to it and live services completely after I got my windows phone but I just don't like it. I tired, I really did. Gmail for me.

dotf said,
I use my ISP's service, but Hotmail is my primary mail client.

same here but my ISP's email is the account I primarily use (personal) and (since 1998) hotmails for everything else like site/forum sign up or for anyone I don't want knowing my personal email addy like on http://www.trademe.co.nz and the like

You should really include "I have a Live Domains Address." If Neowin wanted to do a service for its readers. I would write an in depth article about Live Domains. Office365 light... for free for personal use. I have 3 domains running on it for myself and friends/family.

Should also add. I've had my hotmail account since 1999. And I don't actively use it, it's forwarding to my LiveDomains personal account.

Unrealmaster287 said,
Proud @Hotmail.com user here

Do you see creating a free Hotmail account as a huge accomplishment in your life that it makes you proud?

.Neo said,

Do you see creating a free Hotmail account as a huge accomplishment in your life that it makes you proud?

Yes!

dodgetigger said,
I use hotmail, but neither have @hotmail.com, @live.com or @msn.com.
I have my own domain via http://domains.live.com/

So which answer do I choose?


Didnt check lately, but recently the main page was unuseable. Tried different browsers and even tried my other laptop.. but seems to work now. i do wonder if it was just me or something.

Were are the options

"yes I have one but I never use it because I prefer Gmail."
"Yes I have one but it's my spam account, I prefer Gmail"

Hotmail has amazing spam filtering now and has for quite a long time. It was mainly the spam spot in the early 2000's but fought back quickly.

Funny, had GMail been around then they would have had the same problem. Being so incredibly late from the game they got to benefit from Yahoo/Hotmail's market experience.

unksi said,
Where is the option "No, I prefer my own server"

rofl, I have these I could choose:

@hotmail account (2)
@Live Domains account (My domain, hotmail's services)
@Own server

warwagon said,
Were are the options

"yes I have one but I never use it because I prefer Gmail."
"Yes I have one but it's my spam account, I prefer Gmail"

The option is in very tiny print and not properly disclosed, just like the usage terms of Gmail that is literally making money off your knowledge and information.

I am amazed at the lack of 'privacy' concerns, because a Google employee can query your email, even though it is normally just 'machine read'.

Which is beyond just your 'personal' privacy, because if you are talking about programming a new App or have political tie-ins or just like Corvettes and mention this in any email, they can pull this 'trend' data set, and even have the employee 'read' your email.

Then use this information as 'inside' information to anything from product popularity to even investment and insider trading. Which Google DOES use for an unfair advantage in the market, and they also SELL this 'trend' data to any corporation or government that is willing to pay for it.

So you 'love' Gmail why again?

It wasn't that long ago that people paid millions upon millions of dollars doing 'trending' and 'forecasting' and 'polls' as well acquiring as much information on a subject as possible, because any CIS student can tell you how information=money/power.

Now people by using the 'free' Gmail are giving Google all this information willingly for free and creating the largest and much influential company in the world, that makes '1984' look benign.

(Microsoft doesn't do this, and even locks themselves out of the data, so a rouge employee can't even access your information or email.)

thenetavenger said,

The option is in very tiny print and not properly disclosed, just like the usage terms of Gmail that is literally making money off your knowledge and information.

I am amazed at the lack of 'privacy' concerns, because a Google employee can query your email, even though it is normally just 'machine read'.

Which is beyond just your 'personal' privacy, because if you are talking about programming a new App or have political tie-ins or just like Corvettes and mention this in any email, they can pull this 'trend' data set, and even have the employee 'read' your email.

Then use this information as 'inside' information to anything from product popularity to even investment and insider trading. Which Google DOES use for an unfair advantage in the market, and they also SELL this 'trend' data to any corporation or government that is willing to pay for it.

So you 'love' Gmail why again?

It wasn't that long ago that people paid millions upon millions of dollars doing 'trending' and 'forecasting' and 'polls' as well acquiring as much information on a subject as possible, because any CIS student can tell you how information=money/power.

Now people by using the 'free' Gmail are giving Google all this information willingly for free and creating the largest and much influential company in the world, that makes '1984' look benign.

(Microsoft doesn't do this, and even locks themselves out of the data, so a rouge employee can't even access your information or email.)


^this.
Adding that MS does not even have an interest to do such things. Their income comes from Windows/Office (and bussiness products) and MS needs their trusthworthyness as they basically make money by beeing a thrustworthy company. If a (rogue) MS employee reads people's emails and this gets known. The whole (IT) world will scream blasphemy and burn Windows CD's like they where Bible's/Qurans (not trying to be anti-religious here )
But when Google does this and even allows itself to do so, people still praise Google....

twisted world we live in nowadays....if any company in the 90s acted like Google does now... the world would've been to small. What MS did (they did some evil stuff, bussines world is hard ) in the 80's and 90's comes nowhere CLOSE to the dirt Google is into.

Used to have a hotmail address, switched to live.ca when they came available... which is my secondary host since gmail came on the scene.

Dot Matrix said,
I use a '@Live.com' e-mail as my "professional" address, yes.

@live.com "professional" yeh, smacks of professional that.

Mark Thomas said,

@live.com "professional" yeh, smacks of professional that.


Outside of this site, it is well known that if you don't have your own server, @gmail is the best email address to use on your resume if applying for certain jobs.

When I see @hotmail or @aol, I throw those resumes out. It has been stated before, but those people just show that they can't adapt to new technology.

Haters, keep in mind before you try to flame me, I never said anything about @live just @hotmail and @aol.

UndergroundWire said,

Haters, keep in mind before you try to flame me, I never said anything about @live just @hotmail and @aol.

You're probably more likely to get flamed because of that, the web interface is the same for @live and @hotmail, those services can also be used in mail clients, you have no idea what these people have adapted to or how new or old it is, it's also possible that the email name they wanted wasn't avilable on other services, maybe they've had the same email name for decades, maybe they did try the other services and didn't like them, I don't know about you, but I don't change to something I don't like just because it's newer, that would be pretty stupid, all that tells me is how limited your thinking is.

Personally I don't like the Gmail layout, it's really personal taste.

UndergroundWire said,

Outside of this site, it is well known that if you don't have your own server, @gmail is the best email address to use on your resume if applying for certain jobs.

Lol and 95% of statistics are made up on the spot /s

I indeed do host my own email servers in my garage but seriously your company must be full of google fan bois, I would much rather hire a guy that actually has a decent portfolio than a gmail address.

JaredFrost said,

You're probably more likely to get flamed because of that, the web interface is the same for @live and @hotmail, those services can also be used in mail clients, you have no idea what these people have adapted to or how new or old it is, it's also possible that the email name they wanted wasn't avilable on other services, maybe they've had the same email name for decades, maybe they did try the other services and didn't like them, I don't know about you, but I don't change to something I don't like just because it's newer, that would be pretty stupid, all that tells me is how limited your thinking is.

Personally I don't like the Gmail layout, it's really personal taste.

I started out with @hotmail and @yahoo and @aol. Eventually it was time to adapt to what the industry likes to see. Nothing more.

Toysoldier said,

Lol and 95% of statistics are made up on the spot /s

I indeed do host my own email servers in my garage but seriously your company must be full of google fan bois, I would much rather hire a guy that actually has a decent portfolio than a gmail address.


Actually we use a few Google Services, a few Apple Services and A LOT of Microsoft services. It's sad your vision is narrow though.

UndergroundWire said,

Actually we use a few Google Services, a few Apple Services and A LOT of Microsoft services. It's sad your vision is narrow though.

Cool. I guess I won't be working for your company then. Your competitor thanks you for passing me up just because of an e-mail.

UndergroundWire said,

Actually we use a few Google Services, a few Apple Services and A LOT of Microsoft services. It's sad your vision is narrow though.

Narrow vision lol hello pot, meet kettle.

I run my own email server and built my own web interface to access it, and that works fine for me, now i could use that to pull mail from my hotmail and/or gmail as well, is that narrow visioned?, I too use various services from Microsoft and Google as both are excellent at what they do but your comment about throwing away CVs where the applicant uses a @Hotmail/@aol address is the most retarded thing I have ever heard especially as Gmail is not new technology I must have had my gmail account for at least 7 years.

Don't get me wrong, to me its only retarded as you could be ignoring alot of talented people.

UndergroundWire said,

When I see @hotmail or @aol, I throw those resumes out. It has been stated before, but those people just show that they can't adapt to new technology.

Just...wow. I don't have a @hotmail.com or @aol.com address (it's @live.com), but if I was applying at your company and you told me that in an interview, as the interviewee I'd probably just walk out right then and there.

No way I'd work at a place that values the domain on your e-mail address over things like knowledge, skill and work ethic!

UndergroundWire said,

When I see @hotmail or @aol, I throw those resumes out. It has been stated before, but those people just show that they can't adapt to new technology.

Haters, keep in mind before you try to flame me, I never said anything about @live just @hotmail and @aol.


@live and @hotmail are the same email service...

So by having a newer domain extension for a personal email address, using the SAME email service that person has adapted to new technology?

Glad i don't work for anyone with views like that

Toysoldier said,

Lol and 95% of statistics are made up on the spot /s

I indeed do host my own email servers in my garage but seriously your company must be full of google fan bois, I would much rather hire a guy that actually has a decent portfolio than a gmail address.

Yes but 43% of the time they are misunderstood.

UndergroundWire said,

Actually we use a few Google Services, a few Apple Services and A LOT of Microsoft services. It's sad your vision is narrow though.

his vision is narrow?
DUDE really? you delete job applies based on them having @hotmail.com email address.
As said, some used Hotmail since it came out. Back then there was NO alternative. NONE. And why change if it does what you want it to do. For me personally, i stepped away from Gmail (just collecting junk/spam) and went back with Live, due to the fact of receiving adds based on what people send me. Google scanning my mail like that... eww.
(Yes I am aware MS also scans mail, difference is however. MS bussiness model is selling software products, Google's bussiness model is selling your information.)

Dot Matrix said,

Cool. I guess I won't be working for your company then. Your competitor thanks you for passing me up just because of an e-mail.

Cool. And I do that not my company. That is how I trim any applicants. Reading Comprehension Fail.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ays-about-you_n_834093.html
http://lifehacker.com/5447335/...mail-address-says-about-you

Fastest way to trim all the applicants you receive. Great method.

UndergroundWire said,

Cool. And I do that not my company. That is how I trim any applicants. Reading Comprehension Fail.

http://theoatmeal.com/comics/email_address
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...ays-about-you_n_834093.html
http://lifehacker.com/5447335/...mail-address-says-about-you

Fastest way to trim all the applicants you receive. Great method.

I'm sorry man. But lets lay this out for you. You're an idiot. Several have said it right, you're not worth working for. You pointed to Oatmeal, HuffPo, and LifeHacker as support for your obviously childish hiring practices. Now, it's very possible you actually do hire people. But if you're seriously going with that type of litmus test you need help. Hotmail.com/Aol.com give no indication of work ethic. Both are late 90's early 2000's popular e-mail addresses (along with Yahoo). All you're doing is finding someone who is younger, maybe, and less experienced. And even though folks in Tech think youth is always an asset, it isn't.

As far as Oatmeal's reasoning. Sweet christ can they be further from reality. But then again they are just some snarky artists so what else would expect.

LifeHacker by no means is support for your stance.

HuffPo writers generally know nothing about a field and simply grab a single instance and derive a life lesson from it. Your HuffPo article is a prime example of such a piece.

My advice, Grow up and try hiring people like a true adult. Or don't, I don't care, you'll never see my resume.

MrHumpty said,
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Sorry you feel that way. But as you can read from several articles, there is a stereotype involved. If I am going in for an interview and I am very smart, will I still go in with ripped jeans and a t-shirt? Will my potential employer stereotype me? So if I can prevent that, why shouldn't I? Especially when the solution is FREE!

But hey, I don't mind the hate one bit. This is how I weed out candidates everyone has their method, this is mine. How are you to say my method is wrong? YOU ARE NOBODY SPECIAL?

Don't feel so angry over my method. It works for me, deal with it or SHUT UP!

And how do you know what company I work for. All these dumb comments attacking my company is hysterical. You have no clue do you?

LMAO

UndergroundWire said,

Sorry you feel that way. But as you can read from several articles, there is a stereotype involved. If I am going in for an interview and I am very smart, will I still go in with ripped jeans and a t-shirt? Will my potential employer stereotype me? So if I can prevent that, why shouldn't I? Especially when the solution is FREE!

But hey, I don't mind the hate one bit. This is how I weed out candidates everyone has their method, this is mine. How are you to say my method is wrong? YOU ARE NOBODY SPECIAL?

Don't feel so angry over my method. It works for me, deal with it or SHUT UP!

And how do you know what company I work for. All these dumb comments attacking my company is hysterical. You have no clue do you?

LMAO

hmmm does your CEO know that this is what you do to "weed" out the potentials I bet not if they did you'd probably be weeded out the door the back door that is

UndergroundWire said,

Sorry you feel that way. But as you can read from several articles, there is a stereotype involved. If I am going in for an interview and I am very smart, will I still go in with ripped jeans and a t-shirt? Will my potential employer stereotype me? So if I can prevent that, why shouldn't I? Especially when the solution is FREE!

But hey, I don't mind the hate one bit. This is how I weed out candidates everyone has their method, this is mine. How are you to say my method is wrong? YOU ARE NOBODY SPECIAL?

Don't feel so angry over my method. It works for me, deal with it or SHUT UP!

And how do you know what company I work for. All these dumb comments attacking my company is hysterical. You have no clue do you?

LMAO

You have to admit though, your reasoning is flimsy at best, what you're doing is akin to throwing away a CV based on their phone number or street name, their email domain tells you nothing, now an email name would, something unprofessional would be bad, but the domain itself says nothing.

And "deal with it or SHUT UP!"? that's like saying shut up or shut up.

Athlonite said,

hmmm does your CEO know that this is what you do to "weed" out the potentials I bet not if they did you'd probably be weeded out the door the back door that is

Actually my supervisor does. Maybe he told someone ese, maybe he didn't but either way I'm still working for the same company. Oh well.

I love that I'm be called the idiot because of my methodology yet so many morons are hurt by this. Thank you for making me smile everyone. Keep the responses coming. I love it .

UndergroundWire said,

Outside of this site, it is well known that if you don't have your own server, @gmail is the best email address to use on your resume if applying for certain jobs.

When I see @hotmail or @aol, I throw those resumes out. It has been stated before, but those people just show that they can't adapt to new technology.

Haters, keep in mind before you try to flame me, I never said anything about @live just @hotmail and @aol.

Are you sick? have you got any respect for people's preferences? With your admission, I won't want to work for you. I won't want to work for anyone who do not respect other's and their preferences. Do you throw out resumes if they state a car you don't like? This is descrimiation and a possible lawsuit if caught out. Wake up and stop being baby and start to respect other's with equality no matter what their preferences differ from yours.

ozgeek said,

Are you sick? have you got any respect for people's preferences? With your admission, I won't want to work for you. I won't want to work for anyone who do not respect other's and their preferences. Do you throw out resumes if they state a car you don't like? This is descrimiation and a possible lawsuit if caught out. Wake up and stop being baby and start to respect other's with equality no matter what their preferences differ from yours.

Ah OK, Um where do I work? How would you know when you apply an I see it? Are you butt hurt? Yes you are are. And no it isn't discrimination. Again, thanks for the LOL.

JaredFrost said,

You're probably more likely to get flamed because of that, the web interface is the same for @live and @hotmail, those services can also be used in mail clients, you have no idea what these people have adapted to or how new or old it is, it's also possible that the email name they wanted wasn't avilable on other services, maybe they've had the same email name for decades, maybe they did try the other services and didn't like them, I don't know about you, but I don't change to something I don't like just because it's newer, that would be pretty stupid, all that tells me is how limited your thinking is.

Personally I don't like the Gmail layout, it's really personal taste.

There are so many words I could use here, all of which will get me a warning. Please think of any terrible name you've been called and just run with it. *facepalm*

Nashy said,

There are so many words I could use here, all of which will get me a warning. Please think of any terrible name you've been called and just run with it. *facepalm*

I can only assume you replied to the wrong message, unless you think my opinion on the gmail layout is offensive.

UndergroundWire said,

Outside of this site, it is well known that if you don't have your own server, @gmail is the best email address to use on your resume if applying for certain jobs.

When I see @hotmail or @aol, I throw those resumes out. It has been stated before, but those people just show that they can't adapt to new technology.

Haters, keep in mind before you try to flame me, I never said anything about @live just @hotmail and @aol.

Really? Is it April 1st again? This is about as close to the 'opposite of reality' as I have seen in a comment in a while. Wow, I know from your name you troll, but this is riding a pink unicorn past hyperbole.

A lot of companies have policies that block all incoming and outgoing email to GMail.

Companies have security and privacy policies and by even replying to a 'potential' employee or current employee, the Gmail policy violates the company policies.

Thus it is common that even important matters like from HR, will not respond to GMail users, as the HT employee just emailing a person at GMail is in violation of company policy.


Having a gmail address is much more of a liability than you and most people outside of corporate and IT security structures realize.

Even being a private contractor, consultant, customer, potential buyer, etc, does not matter, when the people in charge of the correspondence are forbidden to reply or correspond to a GMail address. (Or Google Hosted service domain.)


The number of companies adding the 'no gmail' policies is increasing as it is being brought to their attention that by corresponding with a Gmail user it violates their internal policies as well as the US Federal 'Secrecy of Communication' laws.

Go read the law, that goes back to the days of Faxes and people handling faxed information could not 'data mine' or convey information from the Fax. The same is true of GMail 'data mining' the email, it is technically illegal in the USA when dealing with third party correspondence.

I personally know of 50 major companies that forbid Gmail use and/or correspondence. Some 'try' to be good about it, and will use a 'proxy' email system to contact the person and ask for another email address or ask for the person to contact them directly. Some can't even do that, as the original email has to be dumped - which is far more true in classified and high security organizations.


Software companies doing support are hitting problems with this as well, because a customer emailing 'technical' data about proprietary software information, beta software, and even code cannot afford to be exposing their information to Google. And they often tell the participating people NOT to use Gmail or will not pick people that sign up with a GMail address.

Even Microsoft's policy of you 'must have a LiveID' for beta participation is to specifically avoid bringing up this issue, as they screen and prevent email correspondence through Gmail as well. However if they just said, you can't use Gmail, it would hit the news and people would say Microsoft was doing something evil by 'discriminating against Gmail users. However they just don't product information, ideas or even bug data in the hands of Google. (In later years they have moved to direct online correspondence and the Feedback tools to just prevent any problems iwth GMail and other email hosting providers that are information leak risks.

Toysoldier said,
but your comment about throwing away CVs where the applicant uses a @Hotmail/@aol address is the most retarded thing I have ever heard especially as Gmail is not new technology I must have had my gmail account for at least 7 years.

Don't get me wrong, to me its only retarded as you could be ignoring alot of talented people.


Not to mention that except for the web-interface the services are just about the same if we look past the domain, and I wouldn't even say Gmail is ahead in their interface anymore...

JaredFrost said,

I can only assume you replied to the wrong message, unless you think my opinion on the gmail layout is offensive.

My bad. I was meant to reply to the user you replied to!

I use my Office 365 account primarily, but I have a hotmail account I use from time to time. Also have a dormant gmail account collecting junk these days.

ctrl_alt_delete said,
Hotmail user here. I use it for important things while using aim or Gmail for signing up around the web for crap.

Same thing, I have a hotmail account for work and a live.com account for my really personal use while my gmail account is use just to sign up to forums and stuff.

ctrl_alt_delete said,
Hotmail user here. I use it for important things while using aim or Gmail for signing up around the web for crap.

Weirdly I am exactly the same, just the other way round. Gmail for primary email, Hotmail for stuff that I am pretty certain will generate spam. At the end of the day however, both providers are now very good at collecting spam that virtually none gets through, or even incorrectly spam binned. I had to choose one, and at the time GMail was better.

ctrl_alt_delete said,
Hotmail user here. I use it for important things while using aim or Gmail for signing up around the web for crap.

Similar setup here:
I have a good, old MSN account, since 1995, for all my personal communication needs, an Exchange account for business and few Hotmail/Live accounts I use for signing up on the web etc.
I have a Gmail account too but I barely use it; I set it up when Vista was not supporting my MSN/POP3 account and I still use it to sign in with Disqus.

Fritzly said,

Similar setup here:
I have a good, old MSN account, since 1995, for all my personal communication needs, an Exchange account for business and few Hotmail/Live accounts I use for signing up on the web etc.
I have a Gmail account too but I barely use it; I set it up when Vista was not supporting my MSN/POP3 account and I still use it to sign in with Disqus.


not sure if you know, but your Hotmail/Live account(s) are also Exchange

Caleo said,
Immediately I'm noticing a startlingly high amount of hotmail users.

I voted wrong. I voted according to post title not poll title. Live is secondary email