Weekend Poll: What is Microsoft's best product?

Hello everyone, and as always the Neowin staff are hoping that you are enjoying your weekend. Just like every other weekend for the past few months, today we have a poll for you guys.

We want to know, out of the options presented below, what you think has been Microsoft's best product through-out the ages. Last week we were wrong in predicting that Windows 95 would be the first operating system used by our readers, but this week we reckon that most people will think Windows has been Microsoft's best product.

That said, Microsoft Office has also been a really solid piece of software that has helped millions of people worldwide, and their job on Windows Phone and Xbox has also been really good. Now you guys take over.

Place your votes in the poll and if you think we haven't listed Microsoft's greatest product, leave a comment. Enjoy!

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What is Microsoft's best product?

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This sure turned into something it wasn't supposed to be! No where in the poll does it say anything about which OS is best. It says JUST Windows.

Windows got my vote.

Office since it also has no serious rivals that come even close. Windows has OS X that is competitive and comparable in the consumer & pro workstation space for many applications whilst Linux is competitive with it in enterprise, servers and research.

To be honest i dont think Microsoft were ever good at software. At least those on the list.

However their Mouse and Keyboard are very good.

Easily Windows and Office follows.

Hotmail could be improved to be similar to Google or even Yahoo in terms of actual security. Sadly, nothing will be done there. I must say that their "Support and Help" forum is beyond horrible.

I think Windows followed by XBox. If revenue, success and popularity are the metrics to go by then I'd say those two are the best.

Voted Xbox, just because its my favourite windows product. Would of voted windows but I disliked vista so much. Windows 7 is great though!!

Arron said,
Voted Xbox, just because its my favourite windows product. Would of voted windows but I disliked vista so much. Windows 7 is great though!!

"Voted Xbox.... my favourite windows product", o'rly

No Hardware option? I've always really liked Microsoft brand mouses and keyboards...still have my first "Internet Pro" keyboard and "Optical Explorer 1.1;" they are both still in regular use too.

Windows followed closely by Office - though one really needs the other to work.

Windows 2000 was probably the best in terms of Windows releases for its time even though there was a lack of root/administrator elevation control. Windows XP was 2000 with themes and a bunch of DLLs from 9x. Everything since XP has been, as a whole, on par with the rest of the OS crowd.

ShMaunder said,
Windows followed closely by Office - though one really needs the other to work.

Windows 2000 was probably the best in terms of Windows releases for its time even though there was a lack of root/administrator elevation control. Windows XP was 2000 with themes and a bunch of DLLs from 9x. Everything since XP has been, as a whole, on par with the rest of the OS crowd.

Several of the applications in Office pre-date Windows and originally ran on DOS or Mac. Though I don't know how much relation those have to the current codebases - probably hardly any.

Windows use to be OK but since Vista it's sucked. I don't use Office or smart phones so I picked Hotmail even though I barely use it.

TRC said,
Where's Microsoft BASIC? If not for that the company wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Apple's "Integer Basic" was a cludge.
... but "turkey in the straw" was hilarious ...
Applesoft Basic wouldn't have existed without Microsoft.

/just a thought/

Windows and Office without any doubt.
I love Office Ribbon although I am still unsure aboyt W8
Never used a console, I play game on a computer, so I cannot comment on XBox
WP/ has a great GUI but lack a lot of functionalities; hope WP8 will bring them back.

Threat Management Gateway, NIPS/Firewall/Malware/Email/Content Filtering. Does it use a management shell with 90000 command line switches supplemented by a subpar bolted on java gui?

No! Its like a breath of fresh air compared to ironport. Thats one of Microsoft's biggest strengths their products arnt needlessly complicated.

In second place id put windows for group policy alone

Definitely Windows followed by Office. Nothing comes close to Windows or Mac OS, in terms of a polished consumer OS. Office is great for productivity. Xbox is a great gaming/multimedia platform. I like Windows Phone, but it's not mature as Android or iOS and doesn't have many features I want in a mobile OS. I could care less for Hotmail.

Windows 7, Office 2010 and Windows Phone, they all rock! of course I had to pick one on this poll and I picked Windows.

Windows for me!
Although some of the hardware they have produced over the years is pretty good too!
The 8000 Entertainment set that I use for example ... very stylish!

Windows 7 - loved it since it was in beta
Office 2007 / 2010 - love the ribbon personally)
Xbox - first one was fantastic when hacked with XBMC, the Xbox Live experince and games are great on the 360.
Hotmail - Always prefered it to Gmail / Yahoo / Anything else.

The only thing i don't really care for is Windows Phone and Windows 8, i'm not a fan of metro at all, personal preference at the end of the day. I have used it for a few weeks and it doesn't work for me.

InsaneNutter said,
Windows 7 - loved it since it was in beta
Office 2007 / 2010 - love the ribbon personally)
Xbox - first one was fantastic when hacked with XBMC, the Xbox Live experince and games are great on the 360.
Hotmail - Always prefered it to Gmail / Yahoo / Anything else.

The only thing i don't really care for is Windows Phone and Windows 8, i'm not a fan of metro at all, personal preference at the end of the day. I have used it for a few weeks and it doesn't work for me.

i loved the the windows 7 beta too since it saved my laptop which could barely run windows xp, it made my laptop seem brand new

Tough Call. Visual Studio is light years beyond any other IDE on the planet - just a programmers dream come true! Windows 7 and Windows Server are pretty perfect. SQL Server blows every other database and Business Intelligence Platform out of the water. SharePoint basically owns the market whenever it comes to corporate Intranets and organisation collaboration. The XBOX is just awesome. Windows Phone is possibly the most user-friendly mobile operating system ever designed. Microsoft Office is still pretty untouchable compared to everything else out there. For a company that so many people seem to love to hate, you find their software is bloody wonderful in comparison to the competition.

Windows obviously because pretty much everyone uses it if they have a PC

but putting Windows aside i would PERSONALLY choose... XBox (because XBox1 running XBMC still see's some use to this day for SD content and XBox360 is good to as it's the best current gen console)

The best product ever was Windows 95 it was like going from SD to HD. Then I would say XP and Win 7. I think Windows 8 should be called Windows 3.1 reloaded

Windows, changed computers and brought it to the masses. Windows Server brought servers to all, from small departments to large enterprises. Novell was around with net ware and it was an incredible file server faster than Windows NT at the time and more resource friendly however i don't think it would have been more scaleable and a platform for other services such as Email, WWW and Database

Windows. If Windows didn't exist Microsoft would fall in to irrelevancy in my opinion. It is the glue that holds all their other products together and without it they would just be another Symantec or Oracle.

xpclient said,
Anyone who votes anything other than Windows doesn't get Microsoft at all after all these years.

Maybe, if they actually created something that didn't suck, it would be worth something. They overcharge the price for the OS, when it doesn't have offer much out of the box. What does it really offer other than DirectX? Nothing really.

KomaWeiß said,

Maybe, if they actually created something that didn't suck, it would be worth something. They overcharge the price for the OS, when it doesn't have offer much out of the box. What does it really offer other than DirectX? Nothing really.

Overcharge? Please tell me Cheap OS names with same functionality or app support.

You should be able to decide on yourself what programs you want to use. Freedom of choice is actually a good thing.

KomaWeiß said,

Maybe, if they actually created something that didn't suck, it would be worth something. They overcharge the price for the OS, when it doesn't have offer much out of the box. What does it really offer other than DirectX? Nothing really.

KomaWeiß said,

What does it really offer other than DirectX? Nothing really.

Even DirectX is completely replaceable with OpenGL. In fact, most game engines these days support both.

simrat said,

Overcharge? Please tell me Cheap OS names with same functionality or app support.

GNU/Linux. Even OS X is far far cheaper. That's what happens when a monopoly is left uncontested though.

simplezz said,

GNU/Linux. Even OS X is far far cheaper. That's what happens when a monopoly is left uncontested though.

OSX only works on Apple hardware ( as long as you are not doing hackintosh ), so apple make its profit from hardware sales, on the other hand MS is software company, it relies on software for its profit.
We will talk about GNU/Linux when it will have same Developer support as Windows, its funny that FOSS community relies on Wine to use Windows Application. I have tried many times to switch to Complete FOSS solutions, but ended up going to Windows. Its not for average joe.

Even DirectX is completely replaceable with OpenGL. In fact, most game engines these days support both.

Oh please, OpenGL is pain in ass to develop, as a concept artist i have worked with some companies, and the developers used to complain about OpenGL. Even the Doom creator have praised DX several times for its superiority over OpenGL.

simplezz said,

GNU/Linux. Even OS X is far far cheaper. That's what happens when a monopoly is left uncontested though.

Hm. Have you checked for example 500GB SDD drive price in Apple Store is vs 500GB SDD drive for normal PC ? It costs two f**king times more. You could buy couple Windows licenses with the difference in price just between this piece of hardware. And the list of hardware parts that costs more in Apple is a lot longer.

The only cheap(if you don't pick SSD version) Mac is MacMini and it's only because it uses the same parts like notebooks. That means cheap built in Intel graphic card and other sh*t that you cant use for serious work. Basically you are buying notebook with cheap specification without screen and battery that you can't take with you.

Linux ? Let see. Upgrade from OpenSUSE 11.4 to openSUSE 12.1. From 8 programs that I use, 6 stopped working. One mentions some Python 2.7 compatibility. Guess what ? Windows version of this program works without a problem with any version of Python and on Windows XP, Vista, 7. Others don't want to install correctly. You spend hours, days, weeks trying to figure out why some things that worked in previous version, older just 8 months, stopped working. On Linux everything works only if it is downloaded from repositories or compiled for your system. But strangely, most payed programs are not available there and can't be compiled/modified and installing something on one distribution is not as easy on other distribution. With programs I use, every works without problem on every Windows version from XP to 7.

Before you say something stupid, investigate a little more.

soldier1st said,
Windows & Office
Windows Phone is a failure(i'd never run a winblowz phone)

Windows phone is awesome. It's a great OS with support from great services.

Windows Phone and Hotmail is on the list, but not Kinect? From the point of view "Innovation" and not "further development" Kinect would be at the first place, in my opinion.

Xbox, they did what they were told was impossible, they became the market leader in the 2nd generation and snatched the gaming crown from Sony.

McKay said,
Xbox, they did what they were told was impossible, they became the market leader in the 2nd generation and snatched the gaming crown from Sony.

+1

McKay said,
Xbox, they did what they were told was impossible, they became the market leader in the 2nd generation and snatched the gaming crown from Sony.

Actually I'm pretty sure that was the Wii - both in literal numbers and in mindshare.

The Teej said,

Actually I'm pretty sure that was the Wii - both in literal numbers and in mindshare.

Software sales are just as important as hardware sales with consoles, and the Wii is pretty abysmal in software sales.

virtorio said,
Software sales are just as important as hardware sales with consoles, and the Wii is pretty abysmal in software sales.

Fair point, but my original point still stands true. In terms of hardware numbers, the Wii trumps.

The Teej said,

Actually I'm pretty sure that was the Wii - both in literal numbers and in mindshare.

I think youll find hes talking about the original Xbox, back then the Wii wasnt even thought about

McKay said,
Xbox, they did what they were told was impossible, they became the market leader in the 2nd generation and snatched the gaming crown from Sony.

As has been said, the Wii actually took the console crown. The whole market is in decline now and its future uncertain as mobile devices get more powerful. I think the console market will all but disappear in 5/6 years.

simplezz said,

As has been said, the Wii actually took the console crown. The whole market is in decline now and its future uncertain as mobile devices get more powerful. I think the console market will all but disappear in 5/6 years.

Lol, console market won't decline. Wii U will probably trump anything The New iPad can put out in terms of pure visuals, and then when the PS4/720 come out it's just going to completely wipe the floor with any mobile device.

Only way mobile devices will kill off the console market is if consoles simply don't go past the 7th generation... which we all know won't happen.

virtorio said,
Software sales are just as important as hardware sales with consoles, and the Wii is pretty abysmal in software sales.

I'd say more important honestly because that's how you get 3rd Parties on board and increase support for your console. They care much more about how many products they can move than how many consoles have sold. And to be quite honest, I don't even understand why the Wii's attach rate is so low. Can anyone fill me in on this?

Skwerl said,
Visual Studio should be on the list. In IDEs, it's without rival.

A quick look at Xcode should be enough to make anyone sing the praises of Visual Studio.

KomaWeiß said,

I know a better IDE than Visual Studio.

Notepad! It gets out of your way and lets you focus on what really matters: writing

Majesticmerc said,

Yeah but they also take a lot longer to get stuff done

Which is quicker - doing everything with the keyboard or having to use a mouse, point and click things? I know which I'm quicker at

simplezz said,
Which is quicker - doing everything with the keyboard or having to use a mouse, point and click things? I know which I'm quicker at

Visual Studio has pretty extensive settings for hotkey configuration for people who prefer the keyboard route.. can even do a VIM setup for the "pro's". Plus you still get access to all the super-handy tools the IDE provides, never mind addons like CodeRush and the like. Using a plain text editor is just horribly counter-productive nowadays for anything beyond simple shell scripts.

Max Norris said,

Visual Studio has pretty extensive settings for hotkey configuration for people who prefer the keyboard route.. can even do a VIM setup for the "pro's". Plus you still get access to all the super-handy tools the IDE provides, never mind addons like CodeRush and the like. Using a plain text editor is just horribly counter-productive nowadays for anything beyond simple shell scripts.

Couldn't agree more...

Max Norris said,
Using a plain text editor is just horribly counter-productive nowadays for anything beyond simple shell scripts.

Now now, using a plain text editor for simple shell scripts when Powershell v3 ISE exists is ludicrous as well!

Windows, hands down. It changed the way people used computers forever. It's dominated the market with around 80% market share for years, and would have been more before OSX and Linux became more user friendly.
The Xbox would be a close second just because it changed the way home entertainment was defined with the Media Center hub, gaming and online capabilities.
Office and Windows Phone would still exist in other forms, but again the fact that Office is so widely adopted is AMAZING. Any other company would be accused of monopolising the market with the % of systems that actually have Windows/Office installs present!

Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

JAB Creations said,
Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

Lol Windows XP was terrible. I remember when windows would start to freeze up across the screen as you dragged them, and they would create a "trail" of their own window... things like that made XP terrible.

Windows 7 is near perfect.

It's all an opinion I guess though, so that's MY opinion

JAB Creations said,
Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

Did you just troll the 1st comment to so people would see you hatin? Since when did various operating systems come into dispute?

Most of M$'s products are amazing to some degree.

FalseAgent said,
Windows Phone, followed by Office. No doubt about that.

For me Windows phone comes last in that list. First being Windows 7 itself.

JAB Creations said,
Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

Probably a troll comment, but -

Not as customizable? If you're talking visual styles, then W7 has the bonus of having transparency effects in the visual style with no extra software.

As for the huge amount of RAM usage, that's a feature called Windows SuperFetch. It uses as much of your memory as possible to load as many of your frequently used applications into memory so they can be quickly loaded. If it's not already in the memory then the least used applications in the super cache are kicked out. If you really want to turn it off, you can.

Windows 7 also comes with thousands of improvements in efficiency, security, etc. Seriously using Windows XP when you have the option of using Windows 7 is simply foolish.

FalseAgent said,
Windows Phone, followed by Office. No doubt about that.

I chose Windows because I haven't got a Windows Phone yet. I hope that will change soon.

JAB Creations said,

Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

So, the only reason you prefer XP is customisation? (RAM doesn't matter as most PC's have at least 4 GB RAM today)
Well, my only reason for preferring 7 is better speed / performance, far better stability, better security, far better UI, better support (hardware & software), and generally being able to handle change.

JAB Creations said,
Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

XP was terrible. Prone to malware, and not very stable compared to Windows 7 or even Windows 8.

Dot Matrix said,

XP was terrible. Prone to malware, and not very stable compared to Windows 7 or even Windows 8.

Prone to malware in today's world, perhaps Unstable? No. Your computer must have sucked, or the person sitting behind the keyboard didn't know what they were doing. This topic isn't about Windows versions anyway.

JAB Creations said,
Windows XP, it's customizable which Vista/7/8 aren't, it doesn't waste huge amounts of RAM for no reason (through 7 and 8 in to VirtualBox with 300MB and then reboot with 1GB). XP doesn't fight you, everything afterwards fights you as if you were a sworn enemy and not a customer.

Agreed. XP is definitely Microsoft's best product to date. The rest are meh if I'm honest.

Dot Matrix said,

XP was terrible. Prone to malware

Considering most malware is installed by social engineering, users, or through IE drive by's, then I'd say there's not a lot of difference really between the two. I've seen just as many viruses, rootkits, and malware on Windows 7 as I have XP. That's why Microsoft is crippling WinRT. They obviously don't want the same problems happening on tablets (understandable), however, it will also limit what applications can run on it.

Dot Matrix said,

and not very stable compared to Windows 7 or even Windows 8.

Stability comes through a well tested code base. XP has had more service packs and time to become stable. If anything Windows 7 is less stable than XP, and Windows 8 is the least stable of them all, not even being released yet.

TRC said,

Unstable? No. Your computer must have sucked, or the person sitting behind the keyboard didn't know what they were doing. This topic isn't about Windows versions anyway.

Unstable in the fact that faulty drivers crashed the entire system. Mainly graphics drivers. Doesn't happen anymore today.

Not to mention XP suffered greatly from Windows Rot.

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Can people stop arguing about windows xp vs windows 7? For god sake, windows 7 is the current mainstream release cycle for windows on desktop and business PCs and it works fine if I'm honest. Does that mean windows xp sucks? No. Does that mean windows xp needs to die off? No. Up until the other year, windows 3.11 licenses were still being bought NEW for use on embedded systems, now, windows xp is PERFECT for embedded systems, what do you care about the security of a pc controlling a robot arm on a production line? It shouldn't be on internet, so xp is perfect.

XP has a place as does 7, stop arguing over which is best, they both have different purposes.