Weekend Poll: Will you buy the Xbox One at launch?

There's a lot of information out there about the upcoming Xbox One, and our very own Tim Schiesser did a great job of spelling out everything from the console's announcement. While there's still plenty that we don't know about Microsoft's new console, everyone's been busy sharing their opinions of the Xbox upgrade.

Even after eight years, the Xbox 360 is far from dead, but Microsoft is betting that the future of gaming and entertainment will be the Xbox One. We'll be learning a lot more about the upcoming console at E3, but how compelling was Microsoft's product announcement to you? Specifically, do you think you're going to buy the new console at launch, or will you wait awhile for the hype to settle down? Or maybe you weren't impressed at all and will either switch to the Playstation 4, or maybe skip this generation of consoles altogether. We want to hear your opinions on the matter, so answer the poll and give us your feedback below.

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Are you planning on buying the Xbox One?

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I think that the PS4 will probably win the hardcore gaming crowd due entirely to being higher specced (although the specs are rather misleading given that different parts of the PS4's hardware is rumored to bottleneck the noteworthy improvements, such as memory bandwidth). However, I will be buying the Xbox One at launch for its HDMI-In capabilities in order to better control my entertainment system. I am very hopeful that it simplifies the TV-related entertainment for other people that pass through my house--including voice commands through the updated Kinect--by comparison to my Logitech Harmony One's setup that seems to baffle people that have never seen it before. I am curious if we will be able to use the built-in web browser to watch Hulu content without Hulu Plus.

That's the big difference to me with the PS4 and Xbox One: Sony is developing a beast of a gaming machine, while Microsoft is putting an otherwise-beast gaming machine that appears to simplify of a lot of other things. Considering that Sony is so brutally committed to proprietary peripherals (down to even a Bluetooth controller, which makes universal remote control of the PS3 an expensive hassle), I simply do not expect them to help out in this respect.

Most likely, I will eventually buy a PS4, just like I did with my PS3 (initially as a Blu-ray player), but it will only be at launch if there is an incredible game. Sony has too frequently shown "in-game" footage that proved to be CG later for me to be fooled again. Not to mention Sony's incredibly negative attitude toward its customers.

If online gaming stays the same this generation... i.e. you have to pay on Xbox, but it's free on PlayStation, then I'll be sticking with Sony once again.

However if both end up the same, then I'll go with the Xbox.

I will be skipping the purchase at launch. I will wait till the price drops a bit. ebgames in au have it listed for $899. when it breaks the $500 barrier ill make the purchase.

Glad this wasn't a simple yes or no poll. Would've had to asked for a "Hell, no" vote!!

Playstation fan myself, but gave up on wasting my time playing games. Get's old after about 10 minutes, except maybe some of the sports games.

Even back in my drug induced days, I was never high enough to have been able to get into some of the far fetched crap these games are!

PS4 will be best bang for the buck , just like the Ps3 you simply can not beat playstation plus. I have $500 set a side just for it.

I have wondered, if I plug a PS4 into the HDMI of the XBox One. Can I tell the Kinect that I want to play a PS4 game and it will switch to it?!?!?

Chris Rollason said,
I have wondered, if I plug a PS4 into the HDMI of the XBox One. Can I tell the Kinect that I want to play a PS4 game and it will switch to it?!?!?

Gameception?

I'm going to wait to see how the cable system interface and DVR work. If I can use this "One" box for my DVR, games, and streaming, it will get rid of a lot of boxes and cables in my home theater.

Not really used my 360 that much. But I will now when games get cheap for it. And then buy a Xbox One when the console price comes down. I also don't really want another ROD debacle yet, going to let them fix hardware problems if they have any. Also getting back into PC gaming and enjoying it more than console gaming since I upgraded my rig.

I will not purchase an XBone until they either unbundle the Kinect or allow it to run without the Kinect physically attached to the console. The privacy implications are enormous, even if they say that the Kinect can be "disabled" via software settings. I trust Microsoft, game developers and hackers about as far as I could throw Steve Ballmer. Nobody needs a game console that can sense one's heart rate. Read Orwell if you think otherwise. 1984.

burritodave said,
I will not purchase an XBone until they either unbundle the Kinect or allow it to run without the Kinect physically attached to the console. The privacy implications are enormous, even if they say that the Kinect can be "disabled" via software settings. I trust Microsoft, game developers and hackers about as far as I could throw Steve Ballmer. Nobody needs a game console that can sense one's heart rate. Read Orwell if you think otherwise. 1984.

I take it you don't go out in the street? Go shopping? Use a bank account? Buy anything online? Have utilities at your house? Gas? Electric? Water? Vote? An internet connection? A TV? A radio? A phone? No? OK fair enough then...

burritodave said,
I will not purchase an XBone until they either unbundle the Kinect or allow it to run without the Kinect physically attached to the console. The privacy implications are enormous, even if they say that the Kinect can be "disabled" via software settings. I trust Microsoft, game developers and hackers about as far as I could throw Steve Ballmer. Nobody needs a game console that can sense one's heart rate. Read Orwell if you think otherwise. 1984.

Tinfoil hat much? Anyways, I'm guessing you don't know how to turn something away from racing you.

From the items listed in the replies such as shopping, etc. you can see how you are already profiled enough with what you buy and use. We all accept a certain amount of that sort of thing in modern society. Why would you put an open mic and camera in your living room or bedroom or child's room? Perhaps you should give out your address to everyone in the forum and allow us to stop by and hang out in your home. I'm certainly not the only one who thinks the Kinect bundling is a deal breaker for the XBone. Neilson never had it so good.

Oh, and the German Federal Commissioner must also wear a tin foil hat as well. They are already looking into the privacy aspect and the fact that there is no control over what data is gathered, stored and transmitted from the XBone. There are plenty of other groups that are concerned about the implications of the Kinect as well.

...because Microsoft would never be evil with the ability to have a microphone in your house.

The truth is, your own home is probably where you do the least interesting of all the stuff you do. Your games console having access to what you're saying and doing whilst you are using it is hardly a privacy concern. Do you know how many people already have webcams/mics installed on their home PC's with no issues?

Yes, computers do often have web cams and microphones attached. I can also physically unplug and disable them and the computer still works, too. Your web cam probably does not automatically check in with 300,000 cloud servers every 24 hours like the XBone Kinect. Your web cam probably isn't on while the computer is turned off, either. Does your web cam have the ability to check your pulse, as MS has claimed with the Kinect? Australian law already classifies the XBone as a surveillance device as it stands today. If you move beyond the conditioning and hype of "OMG, it's the new XBox!", it is really potentially much more intrusive than you think.

Perhaps this will help with perspective: http://www.gamefront.com/xbox-...bundle-of-privacy-concerns/

I really don't need Steve Ballmer or some marketer to see me scratching my rear-end in my living room when I'm least expecting it. I don't need them able to listen in on a conversation with my family. I don't need MS to sell bits of my life to the highest bidder, either.

burritodave said,
Yes, computers do often have web cams and microphones attached. I can also physically unplug and disable them and the computer still works, too. Your web cam probably does not automatically check in with 300,000 cloud servers every 24 hours like the XBone Kinect. Your web cam probably isn't on while the computer is turned off, either. Does your web cam have the ability to check your pulse, as MS has claimed with the Kinect? Australian law already classifies the XBone as a surveillance device as it stands today. If you move beyond the conditioning and hype of "OMG, it's the new XBox!", it is really potentially much more intrusive than you think.

Perhaps this will help with perspective: http://www.gamefront.com/xbox-...bundle-of-privacy-concerns/

I really don't need Steve Ballmer or some marketer to see me scratching my rear-end in my living room when I'm least expecting it. I don't need them able to listen in on a conversation with my family. I don't need MS to sell bits of my life to the highest bidder, either.

You're really clutching at straws here. If the majority of people were like you, we'd still be living in caves right now, possibly even dead through lack of evolving.

"Yes, computers do often have web cams and microphones attached. I can also physically unplug and disable them and the computer still works" - The rumour that the xbox would fail if you did this, is just that, a rumour. Wait for the facts.

"Your web cam probably does not automatically check in with 300,000 cloud servers every 24 hours" - Pretty sure the software i use to run the cam, like the Xbox, does.

"Your web cam probably isn't on while the computer is turned off, either" - Neither would Kinect if you turned it off properly, like my computer.

"Does your web cam have the ability to check your pulse, as MS has claimed with the Kinect?" - Nope... but then, why does that intrude in on your privacy?

"Australian law already classifies the XBone as a surveillance device as it stands today" - Brilliant, that's who we're listening to is it, politicians?

Frankly, it's just not for you as you've a paranoid nature.

will wait and see, unlike many fanboys i dont have allegience to MS or Sony, i will play around with both at game stores, see the pros and cons for each and then make a decision

goign by all the rumours atm there seems to be a few things im not overly happy about, but like i said i will wait and see, how they actually affect me before i jump in.

I will wait for a year or so (maybe until next Halo). Pretty happy with the 360 now, and I can't wait to see what MS has stored for us!

I would like to get one at launch, but I just don't trust launch platforms for anything. And I'm not going to partake in the "onoes we didn't ship enough units so prices are insane" bull****. I'd rather spend what I have saved on a new video card.

Though if I see a good deal, I might bite. X1 is definitely on the list. Then again, so is a Surface Pro.

I bought a Wii U at launch, regret it and sold it. Will probably pick up either a PS4 or XBOX One, maybe even both, but it will depend on both game and non-game media. If a box is $500, I expect it to do everything.

Xbox here, mainly because most of my friends play on XBL.
In the end the systems are going to be the same when it comes down to games apart from a few exclusives.

Yup. I am not a big gamer (usually buy games to play with my brother over XBOX Live), but there are enough extras to pull me in.

no. i find an always on-online machine with a camera and microphone that can even record your blood pressure sort of creepy. People who've stolen mac products have actually been caught by having the camera turned on and images recorded. What is going to stop a company like apple or microsoft from doing the same to customers whom have done no crime?

seta-san said,
no. i find an always on-online machine with a camera and microphone that can even record your blood pressure sort of creepy. People who've stolen mac products have actually been caught by having the camera turned on and images recorded.

Unplug it when not using it? Or invest in a towel to cover it up? Or point it at a wall?

i'll wait until somebody else tested it, especialy concerning controversial issues.
Only then i would cast by vote with my wallet.

This poll doesn't seem accurate because a lot of people were upset with the xbox one presentation.I mean there was uproar over used games and etc on the xbox one juts surprise to see that everyone saying they are buying it.

I didn't vote for that choice, but I guess most Xbox fans (or newcomers) are hopeful that the negativity is not as bad as it seems. Hopefully we'll see by E3 what Sony and MS have in play.

For me it depends on the E3 presentation and the price. If E3 shows some promise with the exclusives and the launch price is $400 or lower, I'll buy at launch. I do use my 360 as a media center, and yes while traditional TV is on its way out, it will be a SLOW slide. If it's more expensive than $400, I'll wait. I didn't get my 360 until 2008, and my PS3 until 2011, and this gen started in 2005.

I voted for "At Launch", since that's when I want to get one.
I doubt I'll be able to get one right away though, cuz I'd imagine they'll sell out super fast everywhere,
and I ain't gonna stand in mile long lineups just to get one.
I guess I could preorder one, but I like buying stuff in person.

As opposed the that "awesome" PS4 reveal. Yeah, Sony showed so much, with all those live PS4 demos didn't they.

Most people that have made up their minds are most likely fanboys. Because neither the XBOX or PS has shown us much. E3 will determine what we can really look forward to.

Paul Josephson said,
As opposed the that "awesome" PS4 reveal. Yeah, Sony showed so much, with all those live PS4 demos didn't they.

Most people that have made up their minds are most likely fanboys. Because neither the XBOX or PS has shown us much. E3 will determine what we can really look forward to.

The fact that you have the kinect connected constantly to use it is enough reason for many to not buy it, nevermind the 50% slower gpu. Look at the awful framerates on new xbox 360/ps3 games. That could happen late in the console's cycle too but the ps4 would have much higher framerates.

torrentthief said,

The fact that you have the kinect connected constantly to use it is enough reason for many to not buy it, nevermind the 50% slower gpu. Look at the awful framerates on new xbox 360/ps3 games. That could happen late in the console's cycle too but the ps4 would have much higher framerates.

haha, 50% slower GPU - how the feck do people like you survive the day without forgetting to breath?

And the Kinect issue, I think will completely calm down once this is out there in friends houses. I'm personally looking forward to being able to simply walk into my living room and say xbox on - tv, whereby my TV gets switched on for me via IR blaster and the live TV is on, Kinect this time round will be a whole lot better for many number of reasons..

torrentthief said,

The fact that you have the kinect connected constantly to use it is enough reason for many to not buy it, nevermind the 50% slower gpu. Look at the awful framerates on new xbox 360/ps3 games. That could happen late in the console's cycle too but the ps4 would have much higher framerates.

1.23TFLOPS vs 1.84TFLOPS is not 50%, its 33%. And just because it has more compute units, it doesn't translate to such a linear performance gain. More like 20%. But even with this 20% computational power gain, it still doesn't mean it will perform better than the xbox one gpu. If you remember with the xbox 360 with its second gpu die with 10mb edram and some other custom logic, it basically had free 4xFSAA, z buffering and alpha blending. with zero performance penalty The xbox one gpu has also that second die with 32mb EsRam. If you still think games will look better on the ps4,you will be disappointed.

Remember also how the ps3 cell CPU was more powerful than the xbox 360 CPU? 77GFLOPS vs 230GFLOPS. So basically the ps3 cpu was 3x faster theoretically than the xbox 360 cpu. How did that work out for them?

SHoTTa35 said,
1.23 / 2 + 1.23 = 1.84 which makes it 50%.

But yeah the rest of your statement is spot on!

but he said 50% slower gpu, so shouldn't it be 1.84 - 1.84/2 which = 0.92,which is wrong,so that means it isn't 50% slower. 1.84 - 1.84 * 0.33 = 1.23, so that's 33%, isn't it?

From what i have seen so far i wont be buying. I dont want all the TV chaff! They will have to do something damn good at E3 to get my money. Right now its looking like the money will be going to a new gfx card for my pc.

XBOX ONE is the future of entertainment. Unfortunately for Nintendo and Sony, their future in the console business is starting to look grim. Half the people who have an xbox subscribe to xbox live. Half the people who have an xbox have a Kinect. Xbox has been destroying the competition in software sales.

WAR MICROSOFT

Spoken like a true Xbot, traditional TV is on its way out and has been for years, building your console around an xperience where you have to plug your TV box into the back just to get TV is a silly idea, just like Google found out with Google TV, especially where you have to pay a subscription just so you can use subscription services like Netflix which are free to use on other platforms.

People don't need an underpowered $400-500 TV Box Box.

TheLegendOfMart said,
Spoken like a true Xbot, traditional TV is on its way out and has been for years, building your console around an xperience where you have to plug your TV box into the back just to get TV is a silly idea, just like Google found out with Google TV, especially where you have to pay a subscription just so you can use subscription services like Netflix which are free to use on other platforms.

People don't need an underpowered $400-500 TV Box Box.

in the U.S alone, there were 101 million cable tv subscribers in 2011, and it is expected to decline to 95 million subscribers by 2017. That's only %5 with the bombardment of free and cheap online content. That is hardly on its way out, and that is a massive massive market. for you to dismiss it is laughable.It is desperate to say the least. Where do people online get their sports? Oh that's right,you need cable. Or maybe sports is on its way out too and irrelevant?

Just because google made a ****ty product doesn't mean no one else can try with their own product. That is the stupidest argument I have ever heard. Well they failed, so nobody else should enter such market. Give me a break.

And I don't see 50 million people having a problem paying for XBOX Live,so your argument is completely invalid. Sony is giving away tons of free games and the kitchen sink with their subscription services,and yet Sony is too embarrassed to release subscribtion numbers. If you give a quality product,people will pay.

PS4 is only targeting the gaming crowd, Xbox one is targeting everyone,the gaming crowd, the tv crowd, the sports crowd. I'm pretty sure that is a much better idea if you want to outsell your competitors. If calling it a TV box makes you feel better about your product choices, that's ok, but the rest of the population is not dumb.

If xbox360 has people throwing money at microsoft to join xbox live, and buy kinects, imagine what they'll do when xbox one offers an amazing tv experience and apps. Goodnight sweet princess.

vcfan said,

in the U.S alone, there were 101 million cable tv subscribers in 2011, and it is expected to decline to 95 million subscribers by 2017. That's only %5 with the bombardment of free and cheap online content. That is hardly on its way out, and that is a massive massive market.

There's no way on earth that there will only be a 5% reduction of cable subscribers by 2017. First of all intel is coming out with a box that can get most/all cable tv channels via iptv (no cable subscription needed), you can purchase single channels and possibly packages too. Also hbo is likely to let users purchase their channel seperately via internet and other boxes, other companies will likely do the same. Also people are becoming poorer in america, the middle class is being destroyed and they are now facing cuts and lots of job losses. I'd say there will be 15% less subscribers by 2017.

TheLegendOfMart said,
Spoken like a true Xbot, traditional TV is on its way out and has been for years, building your console around an xperience where you have to plug your TV box into the back just to get TV is a silly idea, just like Google found out with Google TV, especially where you have to pay a subscription just so you can use subscription services like Netflix which are free to use on other platforms.

People don't need an underpowered $400-500 TV Box Box.

No one is saying you have to bro, it is an option. Calling it a TV Box is just a fanboy statement. Also, Google TV failed due to a number of factors- they:

a) have 0 hardware experience
b) had practically 0 OS experience
c) did not have a userbase, its very hard to penetrate a market like that
d) it Google, most of their products fail anyway

torrentthief said,

There's no way on earth that there will only be a 5% reduction of cable subscribers by 2017. First of all intel is coming out with a box that can get most/all cable tv channels via iptv (no cable subscription needed), you can purchase single channels and possibly packages too. Also hbo is likely to let users purchase their channel seperately via internet and other boxes, other companies will likely do the same. Also people are becoming poorer in america, the middle class is being destroyed and they are now facing cuts and lots of job losses. I'd say there will be 15% less subscribers by 2017.

it doesn't matter even if its 15%. there will still be hundreds of millions of tv subscribers worldwide,so my point stands.

and there are many things wrong with your information about the intel box. it is subscription based like cable, and there will be no a la carte programming,so you cant just buy individual channels(cable networks sell channels in packages and prevent this).this is confirmed by intel.

http://www.fierceiptv.com/stor...and-pay-tv-space/2013-03-25

their only selling point is that they will have fairer bundles than cable. basically,they will just be another cable provider, with many issues that they will face, such as internet data caps, you have to buy the box outright(cable co's will rent it or give it free),they will probably have a lot of missing content available on cable, you already cut out a huge segment of the market with people with slow connections,etc..

The intel box has to offer me something better than what I have with cable,not just the same. I'm not going to go out of my way to switch,just because its intel. If it does, I would be the first one on it,but I have to be realistic. I don't see intel being a long term cable provider. I just think they're pimping this thing to get cable co's to start using their technology. After all, since when was intel a consumer brand? Why now? They sell chips and technology to manufacturers.

XBOX One does have a good future in the USA. But with new features that are likely to work only in the USA; XBOX One will be a hard sell overseas. Besides not everyone in the US subscribes to HD Cable today and there is no CoAxial Input in the XBOX One. I would expect Cable rates for XBOX Compatibility to increase which will lead to a further drop in Users who use the functionality. IPTV is further increasing in popularity and many Americans are already cutting Cable. I would also expect boxes like Roku to take a significant marketshare away from traditional providers.

vcfan said,
XBOX ONE is the future of entertainment. Unfortunately for Nintendo and Sony, their future in the console business is starting to look grim. Half the people who have an xbox subscribe to xbox live. Half the people who have an xbox have a Kinect. Xbox has been destroying the competition in software sales.

WAR MICROSOFT

Expecting a check from Microsoft later?

raghavny80 said,
XBOX One does have a good future in the USA. But with new features that are likely to work only in the USA; XBOX One will be a hard sell overseas. Besides not everyone in the US subscribes to HD Cable today and there is no CoAxial Input in the XBOX One. I would expect Cable rates for XBOX Compatibility to increase which will lead to a further drop in Users who use the functionality. IPTV is further increasing in popularity and many Americans are already cutting Cable. I would also expect boxes like Roku to take a significant marketshare away from traditional providers.

Doesn't need coax when it has HDMI in. And microsoft is rolling out tv service support in 41 countries. It also has support for all major streaming services. So it's covered across the board.

Yeah! Totally. I have been waiting for a box to plug into my TV that lets me watch TV on my TV. Soooo excited for E3. Hope EA show us more sports games, and I want plenty of DLC!

SHoTTa35 said,
Waiting for E3 and maybe even launch so I can get all the details then make a decision!

Please run for President of Earth. You are actually being rational, which with gamers, is a rare trait.

I'll get it after 6 months to a year, and let others find all the initial bugs. As long as the 360 is still supported, I don't see a need to rush.

Not at launch no. I'd like to think I won't get the Xbox One, PS4 or Wii U as none of them scream must have at me and my PC does all my gaming at the moment, but I'm weak and like shiny things so I'll probably end up buying all three eventually

Even though I don't think Xbox one reveal was a disaster as some people describe it, I never planned to buy a new console to begin with.

Yes, I will.
Have been waiting for next-gen for quite some time and just sold off my xbox 360, so yeah, I'm pumped.
I just hope the e3 games are good.

I'm actually surprised how many people are going for the Xbox in the poll. PS4 for me as well. Guess it's because this is Neowin... I love Microsoft as a company with Windows 8 and WP8 but can't see myself buying a console not aimed properly at people who just want to game.

Sure, there will be a certain group of people that will buy the Xbox One just because it is a Microsoft product, but I also think that there is a larger group of people who either don't care about the changes compared to the 360 or they actually welcome the changes.
At the end of the day that's the whole point though, isn't it? Having the ability to choose a product for whatever reason you want?

drazgoosh said,
I'm actually surprised how many people are going for the Xbox in the poll. PS4 for me as well. Guess it's because this is Neowin... I love Microsoft as a company with Windows 8 and WP8 but can't see myself buying a console not aimed properly at people who just want to game.

So because the Xbox does everything the PS4 does but more, you're going to buy the PS4?

drazgoosh said,
I'm actually surprised how many people are going for the Xbox in the poll. PS4 for me as well. Guess it's because this is Neowin... I love Microsoft as a company with Windows 8 and WP8 but can't see myself buying a console not aimed properly at people who just want to game.

Did you seriously just say that? So if something has the same gaming abilities but does other stuff AS WELL it means, to you, that its worse?

That's some arse backward way of looking at something....

AWilliams87 said,

So because the Xbox does everything the PS4 does but more, you're going to buy the PS4?

thats right! i once walked out of a car dealership because their cars had cup holders....im not looking for cup holding capability...i just want to drive. Happy with my bike! aimed at driving...no cupholding nonsense

Vu Nguyen said,

thats right! i once walked out of a car dealership because their cars had cup holders....im not looking for cup holding capability...i just want to drive. Happy with my bike! aimed at driving...no cupholding nonsense

So you are saying that if one car could drive better than another however happens to possess the nuisance known as the cup holder, you would not buy it?

I think the people are missing the fact that Microsoft, just like any company, is very unlikely to get everything right. "Jack of all trades, master of none" comes to mind really. There are many existing technologies to what they're introducing, many of which would argue are already working just fine, hence all the jokes about paying Microsoft to watch TV on their TV.

I'd be much more impressed to see the console do many things well, but considering what history has shown us, I very much doubt it's all going to work out of the box at launch, especially given that they have numerous processes that could be more tedious than we originally bargained for.

Of course, that's the risk of being an early adopter, which is a mindset I just cannot logically stand behind.

dead.cell said,
I think the people are missing the fact that Microsoft, just like any company, is very unlikely to get everything right. "Jack of all trades, master of none" comes to mind really. There are many existing technologies to what they're introducing, many of which would argue are already working just fine, hence all the jokes about paying Microsoft to watch TV on their TV.

I'd be much more impressed to see the console do many things well, but considering what history has shown us, I very much doubt it's all going to work out of the box at launch, especially given that they have numerous processes that could be more tedious than we originally bargained for.

Of course, that's the risk of being an early adopter, which is a mindset I just cannot logically stand behind.

AWilliams87 said,

So because the Xbox does everything the PS4 does but more, you're going to buy the PS4?

The problem I see is, do we WANT it to do more? If you do, then great. Me personally, I'm pretty disappointed with the announcement. I've owned the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 (just one RROD, so that's not a factor), and I've never owned a Playstation. In fact, I've much prefer the 360 to the PS3 and don't hide that fact.

HOWEVER, it all came tumbling down when Microsoft actually admitted they weren't trying to make the best game console, but rather an all around media box. I have an HTPC plugged into my TV for that. I don't need my TV service to stream through my Xbox. It's fine plugged into the TV, or if I want to be fancy, in the computer. I don't need streaming video sites and all that either. That's what the HTPC is for. I just want a damn game console! If you aren't going to try to make the best game console, then why would I want it as my game console? Overall the whole launch just wasn't really that impressive. They barely mentioned game play at all, and I know they are saving some of that still, but really? It's a game console, let's see some damn games! Not you dancing on Kinect Skype with your friends.

I dunno. We'll see how the PS4 turns out, but I don't have much use for most of the "extras" on the Xbox. If the PS4 is better at gaming, I'll be more inclined to look that direction.

AJerman said,

The problem I see is, do we WANT it to do more? If you do, then great. Me personally, I'm pretty disappointed with the announcement. I've owned the original Xbox and the Xbox 360 (just one RROD, so that's not a factor), and I've never owned a Playstation. In fact, I've much prefer the 360 to the PS3 and don't hide that fact.

HOWEVER, it all came tumbling down when Microsoft actually admitted they weren't trying to make the best game console, but rather an all around media box. I have an HTPC plugged into my TV for that. I don't need my TV service to stream through my Xbox. It's fine plugged into the TV, or if I want to be fancy, in the computer. I don't need streaming video sites and all that either. That's what the HTPC is for. I just want a damn game console! If you aren't going to try to make the best game console, then why would I want it as my game console? Overall the whole launch just wasn't really that impressive. They barely mentioned game play at all, and I know they are saving some of that still, but really? It's a game console, let's see some damn games! Not you dancing on Kinect Skype with your friends.

I dunno. We'll see how the PS4 turns out, but I don't have much use for most of the "extras" on the Xbox. If the PS4 is better at gaming, I'll be more inclined to look that direction.


The PS3 was technically suppose to be better for gaming over the 360 as well, but that didn't seem to be the case in the long run. I would argue that since developers can now send data for processing over Azure servers, the new Xbox One is better for gaming.

Also, you are able stream videos to websites from the PS4 as well. I don't see why you're only attributing that as a negative for the new Xbox. If you don't want do that, then don't do it. Microsoft specifically said that E3 was going to be more about gaming, while this presentation was simply a reveal. But I seriously don't understand why you people think talking about the games should matter tbh. We know what games we're getting with both, for the most part. We know that they will look good on both consoles. Where the consoles differ are features.

Edited by AWilliams87, May 28 2013, 11:10pm :

Like I said, it remains to be seen. There's nothing wrong with having those extra features unless you take the focus off your main objective. MS has made it clear to me that becoming a media hub is as much if not more of a goal for this Xbox than making a game console. I don't have the quote, but I'm fairly certain I recall them specifically saying they didn't try to make the best game console. I'm simply saying that all I have interest in is a game console, so IF the PS4 ends up better at that, then I'd lean that way. MS seems more interested in making the Xbox do everything. That's great for people who want it. Unlike many others on this website, i have no bias towards one company or another. Everything has positives and negatives and is better for one person compared to another. If their push to become a media hub impacts the first priority of being a game console, then for me the PS4 would fit better.

I already acknowledged the fact that they said they were saving most of their gaming focus for E3, but still, you don't know why talking about games when you reveal a game console should matter? Really?

AJerman said,
Like I said, it remains to be seen. There's nothing wrong with having those extra features unless you take the focus off your main objective. MS has made it clear to me that becoming a media hub is as much if not more of a goal for this Xbox than making a game console. I don't have the quote, but I'm fairly certain I recall them specifically saying they didn't try to make the best game console. I'm simply saying that all I have interest in is a game console, so IF the PS4 ends up better at that, then I'd lean that way. MS seems more interested in making the Xbox do everything. That's great for people who want it. Unlike many others on this website, i have no bias towards one company or another. Everything has positives and negatives and is better for one person compared to another. If their push to become a media hub impacts the first priority of being a game console, then for me the PS4 would fit better.

I already acknowledged the fact that they said they were saving most of their gaming focus for E3, but still, you don't know why talking about games when you reveal a game console should matter? Really?


Yes I do think at this point, seeing the actual games shouldn't matter as much. You know what you're getting with both.

PS4 for me. Aside from having a PS3 and already investing in the PS3/PSN universe, I bought a 360 in 2007 and went through three of them. No thanks Microsoft. Fool me three times...

Elessar said,
PS4 for me. Aside from having a PS3 and already investing in the PS3/PSN universe, I bought a 360 in 2007 and went through three of them. No thanks Microsoft. Fool me three times...

I had a RROD, but I found Xbox support second to none in getting it fixed. Fast replacement, free service and they gave me 3 months XBL and a copy of bill & teds excellent adventure for the "hassle".

Problem is you shouldn't have to replace a console so often. Doesn't matter how good their support is when their product is faulty.

Xilo said,
Problem is you shouldn't have to replace a console so often. Doesn't matter how good their support is when their product is faulty.

Yes, but... say that the ps4 had a similar problem, would they load 2BILLION dollars into that problem? for us? I mean at least with the Xbox you have the assurance that you will get very good support, both for future updates and malfunctions if need be.

spudtrooper said,

I had a RROD, but I found Xbox support second to none in getting it fixed. Fast replacement, free service and they gave me 3 months XBL and a copy of bill & teds excellent adventure for the "hassle".


Remember that not everyone lives on an area which is covered by Microsoft. I too went over 3 consoles (2 Fats, and 1 slim). That is why I'll be waiting for a year (at least) to see if the console has some problems.

Elessar said,
PS4 for me. Aside from having a PS3 and already investing in the PS3/PSN universe, I bought a 360 in 2007 and went through three of them. No thanks Microsoft. Fool me three times...

I'm on my 3rd PS3 and only my second Xbox360, both PS3s had their blu ray drives fail and the first one emded up with the yellow light of death.

I'll buy both again, and decide from there. Perhaps I'll use my ps4 via the hdmi in on my Xbox One

Elessar said,
PS4 for me. Aside from having a PS3 and already investing in the PS3/PSN universe, I bought a 360 in 2007 and went through three of them. No thanks Microsoft. Fool me three times...

...Currently on my fourth XBox 360 hardware since 2005. I definitely won't be an early XBox One adopter.

Very likely.. aside from my daughter's Wii I haven't bought a console since the original XBox (and that was mostly for XBMC).. it's about time I think.

In a year, Wii U will sell more than both XBOX one and PS4 combined.

E3 Nintendo will be all about games, while the MSFT and Sony will focus on launch and hardware specs.

By the time competitors come out with their consoles in fall 2013, Nintendo probably have Wii U bundled with more games at a discount and with a plethora of high quality games to follow, it will be hard for the consumer to pick anything else.

XBOX one and PS4 will be costly, with bunch of PC games and services no one asked for. While Sony and MSFT take a multi-media approach to compete against Google TV clones, Nintendo still remains loyal to their core base and keeps inviting us with known franchises with a different twist.

If Nintendo is so focused on games, how come they added TVii? They are just as guilty of trying to be one box to rule them all. In fact it seems Nintendo may not have gone far enough... still. I love Nintendo but always a step behind.

ManicDevlin said,
In a year, Wii U will sell more than both XBOX one and PS4 combined.

E3 Nintendo will be all about games, while the MSFT and Sony will focus on launch and hardware specs.

By the time competitors come out with their consoles in fall 2013, Nintendo probably have Wii U bundled with more games at a discount and with a plethora of high quality games to follow, it will be hard for the consumer to pick anything else.

XBOX one and PS4 will be costly, with bunch of PC games and services no one asked for. While Sony and MSFT take a multi-media approach to compete against Google TV clones, Nintendo still remains loyal to their core base and keeps inviting us with known franchises with a different twist.

no, just no.

ManicDevlin said,
In a year, Wii U will sell more than both XBOX one and PS4 combined.

E3 Nintendo will be all about games, while the MSFT and Sony will focus on launch and hardware specs.

By the time competitors come out with their consoles in fall 2013, Nintendo probably have Wii U bundled with more games at a discount and with a plethora of high quality games to follow, it will be hard for the consumer to pick anything else.

XBOX one and PS4 will be costly, with bunch of PC games and services no one asked for. While Sony and MSFT take a multi-media approach to compete against Google TV clones, Nintendo still remains loyal to their core base and keeps inviting us with known franchises with a different twist.

This is all quite speculative, and in my opinion incorrect.

Firstly, E3 for Microsoft and ps4 will most likely be about games and a little more preview to what the software has to offer. They wont re-iterate the hardware as that is why they had separate events!!!!!!!!!!

and secondly, even as Nintendo has loyal fans (sorry, had) - like myself - they are slowly dying away because Nintendo is unfortunately getting behind the curve.

We will see I suppose, if you are correct.

Not only am I buying an Xbox One, but I'm also buying an Xbox 360 One.

The new Kinect is insane. My goal is to have that in my possession as soon as possible.

CaptainBeno said,

im sure everyone wanted to know you not getting a wiiU

fail troll is fail

I wanted to know that just as much as I wanted to know that Rudy was buying a Wii U.

ManicDevlin said,
E3 Nintendo will be all about games, while the MSFT and Sony will focus on launch and hardware specs.

They had better be because my brother has an unopened Wii U sitting beside his desk due completely to a lack of interest in it at this point. He had hoped to resell it for a profit, but it was so underwhelming that no one would pay enough to cover shipping to include a profit margin. (He also made the mistake of buying it from Gamestop over the internet, so return shipping was suspiciously expensive, which is why he took the risk of hanging onto it in hopes that some good game will surface for it)

The only thing that will keep your initial statement remotely possible is the idea that Nintendo will have had a headstart for over a year, but they have done absolutely nothing to take advantage of it so far. As such, both the Xbox One and PS4 will have to flop, or have incredibly limited quantities like the PS3 did at launch, in order for the Wii U to be more successful.