Weekend Poll: Will you buy Windows 8?

Hello everyone, we hope that you’ve been enjoying your weekend and so it’s time for another weekend poll! This time we’re asking you a very simple question: based on your experiences with the Windows 8 Consumer Preview, would you buy it? A simple yes/no answer this time around.

It seems that a lot of our readers greatly dislike the Metro Start Screen in a desktop environment, and this could potentially hurt Microsoft’s sales if Windows 7 users are not willing to upgrade. If Windows 8 doesn’t sell well for traditional desktop PC users then Microsoft will be riding solo on the sales of tablet hardware and PC OEMs.

Place your votes below as always, and comment with your opinions if you wish.

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Based on your experiences using the Consumer Preview, would you buy Windows 8?

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Most of the comments show people saying something along the lines of "ill never have it on a desktop but ill get a tablet/touch screen and then ill get it", that seems to be the general feeling on windows 8 right now.

I'm a WP7 user since fall 2010 (first used iPhones since 2007, and first Palm, etc.) and I think Metro is the best thing i saw about touch+mobile devices since iphone and smartphone renewal in second half of 2000s.
Metro is the best thing Microsoft made from years about graphic user interface. Ok sure it's designed for touch but if it can be suitable for mouse (and I think it is), I think its simplicity and clear design is better for the user experience than any of all these realistic glossy designs from Apple/Android for the desktop or tablet.
Ok, it's hard to change 20 years of desktop realistic metaphor. Apple is not anymore on that way, but focused on market following. Its the first time we can say that Microsoft is more on innovation (not only a marketing formulation) than other. Windows 8 is a crossroad between desktop and mobile-touch with the ability to offer choice on a same device. offering real desktop to people connecting keyboard and mouse to a tablet (or a device like Asus Transformer). This is a real evolution way of digital work production... and not only a post-PC only focused way on content-consumer market share captation. Let's give a chance to our tools evolution capacity.

I personally like Windows 8 on my Slate and my Laptop. I know a lot of people don't like the fact there is no start menu, but on my Laptop it is very easy to move around now since the Consumer Preview fixed the mouse issues.
On top of that, due to optimizations of RAM/CPU usage, the system feels more snappier than Windows 7. Im going to buy Windows 8 for sure.

The desktop is still there so why would you not upgrade? (unless the price kills it). Since Windows 8 is basically 1.0 software, Microsoft needs to make this cheap cheap cheap or it wont sell IMO.
I also wonder if this will spark sales of Track-pad like devices for PC's.

fenderMarky said,
Most of you never paid for windows so stop bother with ******s opinions...

Huh? I think you'll find that most people did pay for Windows. If you're referring to the idea that when you buy a new computer you get Windows already installed, you need to remember that you pay for that version.

Windows 8 is great so far and really hope Microsoft does not give in to the few asshats that are complaining about Metro. The Start menu is gone and i really hope it stays that way. I will be ready to buy as soon as it hits retail unless Microsoft has a launch event like they did with Windows 7 then I will be looking forward to a free copy like 7.

bryonhowley said,
Windows 8 is great so far and really hope Microsoft does not give in to the few asshats that are complaining about Metro. The Start menu is gone and i really hope it stays that way. I will be ready to buy as soon as it hits retail unless Microsoft has a launch event like they did with Windows 7 then I will be looking forward to a free copy like 7.

"You don't share my opinion, you're a asshat"

Edifying. Hope you like the Microsoft Kool-Aid

myxomatosis said,

"You don't share my opinion, you're a asshat"

Edifying. Hope you like the Microsoft Kool-Aid

Your Troll kid and you what your talking about.

Melfster said,

Your Troll kid and you what your talking about.

Ah the worshippers....... Whoever disagree with tem are either asshats or trolls.

ignorance always go hand by hand with ignorance.....

Nope. Metro is a non-sense to me on a desktop computer. I don't hate Metro, it will be pretty cool on tablets, but it's not adapted to what I do with my computer.

The other features are pretty cool (new Task Manager, new "File transfer" window, ribbons, etc.) but it's not enough to waste 100$+.

Sorry MS... Win 8 is probably the first Windows version since Win 3.1 that won't be intalled on my computer (And I've been using a lot or Windows versions... 3.1, NT 4, Me, Server 2003, 98 beta, XP beta, 2000, etc.)

I don't like the new direction Windows is taking... I feel they're telling to their user base "Go **** yourself".. to accomodate tablet users.

I have to say People on this forum generally get things wrong and don't know the whole story about Windows 8. Remember when Ipad first came out. People were saying it is just a large ipod touch and it would fail. They were wrong then and most probable they are wrong now in regards to Windows 8.

Not a chance, at least not on a desktop. Aside from not liking the Metro interface at all (on desktops) I've yet to see any reason to switch from Windows 7. Now if I were buying a tablet it would be fine, but I have no plans to do so.

It looks as tho the majority have spoken, windows 8 has lost and it has lost badly, at least in this poll anyways, and since the majority of neowin users are probably at the very minimum a little tech savy, how on earth is M$ going to sell 8 to the general public?

Vista part 2!

For me it isn't about WANTING to stay on 7, I would love to upgrade. It is about not going to the joke of an OS that is Windows 8. Metro sucks, and MS will realize it one of these days. Look at the market share of Windows phones compared to iPhone / Android. NO ONE IN THEIR RIGHT MINDS thinks Metro is an advancement. For one I just can't get over how ugly it is, even if it IS more usable on touch devices than iOS / Android. I don't use Linux because it is BUTT UGLY.

nope, as much as I like the CP, I understand that it is beta and unfinished, but if this is how the final product is going to be like...count me out. I need a metro file explorer at the very least.

I see absolutely no reason to move to 8 over 7. Now, 8 from Vista, sure...if I wasn't already running on 7 and 7 was never an option.

the thing i find most confusing about all the people hating on Windows 8, is that they all hate "Metro".

in reality, Metro is a replacement for the Start Menu, and they hate that. they don't seem to hate Metro per se, just the fact that there is no traditional Start Menu.

also, do all those people realize that you can access Shut Down by right-clicking the lower left corner? seriously, it's right there.

EDIT: my mistake. i added that to the menu. please disregard previous idiocy.

HowTo:
Create a shortcut named "Shutdown" with the following command:
"shutdown -s -t 0"
then paste the shortcut in the following location:
"C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\WinX"

if you want, you can even create some others, like:

Restart - "shutdown -r -t 0"
Hibernate - "shutdown -h -t 0" *will only work assuming hibernate is enabled on your system
Logoff - "shutdown -l -t 0"

Edited by ikyouCrow, Mar 12 2012, 1:39am :

ikyouCrow said,
the thing i find most confusing about all the people hating on Windows 8, is that they all hate "Metro".

in reality, Metro is a replacement for the Start Menu, and they hate that. they don't seem to hate Metro per se, just the fact that there is no traditional Start Menu.

also, do all those people realize that you can access Shut Down by right-clicking the lower left corner? seriously, it's right there.

EDIT: my mistake. i added that to the menu. please disregard previous idiocy.

1 We hate Metro because it just look like someone from Microsoft used MS Paint and Designed the ****ing theme and 2 what the hell is a shut down menu on the left corner going to make up for a missing start menu.

Totalaero said,
1 We hate Metro because it just look like someone from Microsoft used MS Paint and Designed the ****ing theme and 2 what the hell is a shut down menu on the left corner going to make up for a missing start menu.

The start menu is not missing, it just got bigger

Totalaero said,
1 We hate Metro because it just look like someone from Microsoft used MS Paint and Designed the ****ing theme and 2 what the hell is a shut down menu on the left corner going to make up for a missing start menu.

well i mentioned my edit because a lot of people complain about not being able to find shut down (which i don't really get since i leave my machine running 24/7).

ikyouCrow said,

well i mentioned my edit because a lot of people complain about not being able to find shut down (which i don't really get since i leave my machine running 24/7).

You should never leave your machine running 24/7 unless it is a server or have proper cooling hardware on your graphics card.

Totalaero said,
You should never leave your machine running 24/7 unless it is a server or have proper cooling hardware on your graphics card.

well my WHS machine runs 24/7 for backups and media sharing and it also hosts my magicjack. that used to be my main gaming machine many years ago, still running that 9600 strong. actually in the process of upgrading the mobo, cpu and memory.

my laptop i don't even need to shut down, i just close the lid. hybrid sleep is totally the best thing since hibernate... and sliced bread.

not unless some changes are made, guess i wil be with windows 8 a long time.
I like change but doesn't seem to me to be any good for older desktops. now if I had touch screen could be different.

Funny how many people voted no, but then in the comments say they will get it through TechNet or they will buy a tablet with Win8.
If they would have voted yes, they are getting Win8, the poll would look completely different

Stoffel said,
Funny how many people voted no, but then in the comments say they will get it through TechNet or they will buy a tablet with Win8.
If they would have voted yes, they are getting Win8, the poll would look completely different

Why should they have voted yes, if they wouldn't buy Windows 8 based on their experiences with the CP?

Nope.
Not unless there's drastic changes between now and release that perk my interest... what they've presented so far hasn't done enough to make me want to switch from 7.

-- yes I actually will. I know people are complaining about the lack of " start button " but I like it. I like the metro interface some and have not found anything that won't run on it. funny to see everyone so adverse to change / redesign.

Nope. Bought every version of Windows since 95, but not this time. Microsoft will eventually learn that this Frankenstein approach to two different types of system (touch/desktop) just won't work.

While the Metro tiles look great on a phone, largely thanks to them being mostly one colour, the rainbow tiles effect on a desktop looks like a childrens toy. They've simplified the look, and complicated the basic userbility.

Decide the of windows 8 you receive the whole package coming 4th quarter. Meanwhile get to know the consumer preview. The grid style layout days will soon be over. The grid has matured. It can no longer grow and sustain, in example iOS and Android. The only thing keeping them alive are the "cores," basically hardware. METRO is the vision of the future and eventually others will or have adopt it in some form or another

lubba said,
Decide the of windows 8 you receive the whole package coming 4th quarter. Meanwhile get to know the consumer preview. The grid style layout days will soon be over. The grid has matured. It can no longer grow and sustain, in example iOS and Android. The only thing keeping them alive are the "cores," basically hardware. METRO is the vision of the future and eventually others will or have adopt it in some form or another

I have no idea what you just said.

They were back on track with 7 and I upgraded from XP - There are some great new features in 8 but sadly the change in start menu and all the tablet stuff just put me off. Sticking with 7 if this is how 8 turns out - happy to reconsider if I see more of a desktop focused 8 in the future.

Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

For me, windows 8 doesn't bring "anything to the table" that Windows 7 doesn't have
except for the idiotic interface, so, most likely I will PASS.

naap51stang said,
Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

For me, windows 8 doesn't bring "anything to the table" that Windows 7 doesn't have
except for the idiotic interface, so, most likely I will PASS.

Entirely agreed. Will wait for Windows 9 ( NT 7.0 )

naap51stang said,
Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

For me, windows 8 doesn't bring "anything to the table" that Windows 7 doesn't have
except for the idiotic interface, so, most likely I will PASS.

And when Metro is in Windows 9 too (it isn't going anywhere you know)... will you skip that version too?

naap51stang said,
Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

For me, windows 8 doesn't bring "anything to the table" that Windows 7 doesn't have
except for the idiotic interface, so, most likely I will PASS.

You forgot Windows98 Second Edition which was also a "yes".

TCLN Ryster said,

And when Metro is in Windows 9 too (it isn't going anywhere you know)... will you skip that version too?

the desktop would play even lesser role by then , HAHA.

naap51stang said,
Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

For me, windows 8 doesn't bring "anything to the table" that Windows 7 doesn't have
except for the idiotic interface, so, most likely I will PASS.

History will continue...no doubt about that

naap51stang said,
Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

For me, windows 8 doesn't bring "anything to the table" that Windows 7 doesn't have
except for the idiotic interface, so, most likely I will PASS.

Can't say I agree on Windows 95. That was a revolutionary shift in the OS and a must have for all PC owners. I think Windows 8 will do the same, people just don't see it yet.

naap51stang said,
Windows 3...no
Windows 3.11...yes
Windows 95...no
Windows 98...yes
Windows98ME...no
WindowsXP...yes
Windows Vista...no
Windows 7...yes
Windows 8...see the pattern?

You mean Windows 98 Second Edition? That one I liked. "Windows Me" on the other hand was the WORST OS in history. It seems Win8 is going to be just like WinMe. Trying to shove multiple different technologies in one and watching it go to hell rather quickly.

While Metro certainly has it's flaws currently (like making certain functions like shutdown completely invisible for example), I like what I see thus far. I'll definitely be buying a copy.

I have a clear vision in my head and can see how Metro will improve my productivity.. in other words, I "get it". Of course that depends on app developers hurrying up and getting some decent apps out there and pronto!

The Taskbar/Start Button/Desktop interface paradigm is getting old now... 17 years old to be exact and it's time for a change. Just hope Microsoft listen to some of the criticism and improve metro a bit. Some of the criticisms out there are indeed valid, but not valid enough to dump metro entirely as some are advocating.

Windows 8 isn't a downgrade. It's an improvement over the tired old desktop. The old desktop is for old farts who can't grasp progress.

ScubaDog said,
Windows 8 isn't a downgrade. It's an improvement over the tired old desktop. The old desktop is for old farts who can't grasp progress.

Shame on Microsoft for trying to move forward.

ScubaDog said,
Windows 8 isn't a downgrade. It's an improvement over the tired old desktop. The old desktop is for old farts who can't grasp progress.

Heh. Progress? Define progress when it takes twice (or more) as long to do the same tasks? I'd like to see this fly in the Enterprise. I doubt this'll even take off in the corporate world.

Even though I hate it and if I didn't run my computer repair business I wouldn't even touch it. But because I do I will probably buy another technet subscription when it rtms to learn metro and windows 8.

Yes I will. Although I'm not a huge fan of Metro and the new start screen, the other upgrade features will make it worth while. I've only used the CP version for a few hours, but it's definitely usable and should be even better when the RTM is released.

In its current state, I hate to say I will not. Actually, that's not true, I most likely will buy it on a Windows 8 Tablet, most likely a WOA tablet.

Because of my experience with WP, I will no doubt purchase windows 8. I see great potential with metro UI.

lubba said,
Because of my experience with WP, I will no doubt purchase windows 8. I see great potential with metro UI.

That sounds great for the (comparatively) few WP users like you who think Metro is the bomb. There's even more of us iPhone and Android users that don't like Metro at all.

You'd think MS would try for much broader appeal than just a tiny base of Metro converts.

Stacksmasher said,

That sounds great for the (comparatively) few WP users like you who think Metro is the bomb. There's even more of us iPhone and Android users that don't like Metro at all.

You'd think MS would try for much broader appeal than just a tiny base of Metro converts.

Stacksmasher said,

That sounds great for the (comparatively) few WP users like you who think Metro is the bomb. There's even more of us iPhone and Android users that don't like Metro at all.

You'd think MS would try for much broader appeal than just a tiny base of Metro converts.

I will buy windows 8 because of Metro, not because it's the bomb or what not. I personally enjoy the user experience from a WP standpoint, simple and straight forward. Not many will see this simplicity and not like. But I don't give a rats ass what they like or not like. I'm not a convert. I never had an iPhone or Android but have played with them. Just not interested. Its was not metro that got my interest in MS. It was the Xbox 360. The best product I ever bought. Never thought I would side with MS but so far they have not failed me besides delay of the Nokia lumia 900.

Stacksmasher said,

That sounds great for the (comparatively) few WP users like you who think Metro is the bomb. There's even more of us iPhone and Android users that don't like Metro at all.

You'd think MS would try for much broader appeal than just a tiny base of Metro converts.


I've never used Windows Phone in my life, &, (excuse me if mentioning this is against the rules,) have used Windows 8 since 7850 leaked...

& BTW, I have an iPod Touch & use Android-x86.

Edited by The_Decimator, Mar 11 2012, 8:35pm :

Hell No, not in a million years in it's present form, and I don't want to hear wait for the beta response either... I will use it on a tablet though, if a tablet is released that is worth buying.

I bet you it will grab interest in the touch market - like tablets and such (obviously).

But as for an upgrade-OS, I don't think w8 will be that high for upgrades.

All in all though, the OS feels great so far... ive gotten used to it so much that I can switch between windows or apps very quickly.

Scar said,
Can't judge it till I personally give it a try.

No, no. Don't try it, you're supposed to hate it with every ounce of your being.

Windows 8 really depends on the right hardware. If the right hardware is made I think it will be a game changer. I don't think I will install it on any existing hardware but I am really eager to use it new hardware.

My experience says no. I realize that this is a beta, but I really don't care for my system to be hanging from Win 8 issues as it does now. It's not hardware, because I can still move the mouse around and kill some still working programs, and if I'm quick enough, I can even restart the system without resorting to the reset button, of which I have been driven to press more often in the short week that I've had this new computer (complete hardware meltdown when I installed Windows 8 on the old one) than my old, 5+ year old system that bit the dust.

Also, why the hell do I want to create (because I do NOT have one) an Xbox 360 profile just to watch a video or play music? That is insane. I'm already logged into my Hotmail account (which isn't very smart, I don't mind connecting my email account if *I* want, but then I have to give it out to people to access my computer? Separate passwords for separate uses Microsoft!)

Also, what works in a touch environment doesn't work in a keyboard/mouse environment, even if it *SHOULD* technically work, like grabbing the background to slide back and forth. Consistency sucks!

Bryan Price said,

Also, why the hell do I want to create (because I do NOT have one) an Xbox 360 profile just to watch a video or play music? That is insane. I'm already logged into my Hotmail account (which isn't very smart, I don't mind connecting my email account if *I* want, but then I have to give it out to people to access my computer? Separate passwords for separate uses Microsoft!)

EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bryan Price said,
My experience says no. I realize that this is a beta, but I really don't care for my system to be hanging from Win 8 issues as it does now. It's not hardware, because I can still move the mouse around and kill some still working programs, and if I'm quick enough, I can even restart the system without resorting to the reset button, of which I have been driven to press more often in the short week that I've had this new computer (complete hardware meltdown when I installed Windows 8 on the old one) than my old, 5+ year old system that bit the dust.

Also, why the hell do I want to create (because I do NOT have one) an Xbox 360 profile just to watch a video or play music? That is insane. I'm already logged into my Hotmail account (which isn't very smart, I don't mind connecting my email account if *I* want, but then I have to give it out to people to access my computer? Separate passwords for separate uses Microsoft!)

Also, what works in a touch environment doesn't work in a keyboard/mouse environment, even if it *SHOULD* technically work, like grabbing the background to slide back and forth. Consistency sucks!

You don't have to use your Live account. Local users can still be created.

Bryan Price said,
My experience says no. I realize that this is a beta, but I really don't care for my system to be hanging from Win 8 issues as it does now. It's not hardware, because I can still move the mouse around and kill some still working programs, and if I'm quick enough, I can even rest!

ill number my points towards each of your paragraphs..

1) I have had no crashes, meltdowns... freezes... or anything.. ALL of my programs still work.

2) as far as I can tell YOUR MICROSOFT ACCOUNT IS EVERYTHING. Basically when you create that its pretty much attached to a xbox account. Also, what other service allows you to not sign in and buy music or videos - NONE (except pirates). w8 does allow you to watch videos on your pc without signing in.
ALSO - YOU CAN CHOOSE NOT TO USE YOUR MICROSOFT ACCOUNT TO SIGN IN SO THERE GOES YOUR OTHER COMPLAINT.

3) grabbing the background is the same as grabbing your internet explorer and clicking it to the side, I don't understand your complaint - this is also in w7, just refined in w8.

Taking a pass on this Windows. With all of the sweet Linux distros and even MacOS, I don't have to blindly buy whatever MS is selling anymore. But hey, enjoy!

I thought I would stay on 7, but after trying 8, for some reason my games all work better, and thats what I use my pc for the most. I hated it at first but actually went back to it after discovering all my "stuff" worked better, heck I couldn't believe it when 8 actually played my mp4 files back natively using the metro video player, I was impressed!

I said no, but I would possibly buy it for a Touch Only device. Not a mouse and keyboard setup. Experience is just awful.

I've been using Windows 8 since the Developer Preview and then switched to the Consumer Preview straight away. The only times I ever switch to the desktop mode is to watch some Flash video, use Steam/Vent and sometimes Visual Studio. Apart from that, it simply doesn't get used.

Simply put, if all apps were a perfect Metro app I'd probably never use the Desktop again.

The Teej said,
I've been using Windows 8 since the Developer Preview and then switched to the Consumer Preview straight away. The only times I ever switch to the desktop mode is to watch some Flash video, use Steam/Vent and sometimes Visual Studio. Apart from that, it simply doesn't get used.

Simply put, if all apps were a perfect Metro app I'd probably never use the Desktop again.

Word.

The Teej said,
I've been using Windows 8 since the Developer Preview and then switched to the Consumer Preview straight away. The only times I ever switch to the desktop mode is to watch some Flash video, use Steam/Vent and sometimes Visual Studio. Apart from that, it simply doesn't get used.

Simply put, if all apps were a perfect Metro app I'd probably never use the Desktop again.


double word

fardeen said,

the metro sucks in desktop mode, even task manager freezes now!!! lame.. will just pirate it


What's the point in pirating it if you think it sucks? Save your internet bandwidth, stick with W7.

It really doesn't matter whether you want to buy Windows 8 or not.

Microsoft in the end will force you or companies to upgrade to Windows 8 because like the other versions of Windows....Microsoft will eventually end support for Windows 7 which at least from a company standpoint...it will force companies to upgrade.

So..whether people decide to upgrade or not...in the end...Microsoft will get your money regardless.

Like a pay me now..or pay me later senario.

texasghost said,
Microsoft in the end will force you or companies to upgrade to Windows 8 because like the other versions of Windows....

Do you remember how well that worked with Vista?

texasghost said,
Microsoft will eventually end support for Windows 7

In 2020, quite some time left to get a real alternative to Windows 8…

Last night I was using my Windows 8 laptop a lot more deeply than I normally go because I wanted to map my dvd drive to my media center.

I was very frustrated I'm not quite sure how anyone can be more productive on Windows 8 . I mean I can see a person saying they are more productive with windows 8 that if they aren't a power user and just browse the internet, for that I can see them living on the Metro screen and being more productive with than with Windows 7.

But if someone had themselves surrounded with 4 screens I just don't see 8 being more productive. Just the fact that the Metro home screen has to FILL 1 of the 4 screen, doesn't sound very productivity driven.

Also let me take a moment to vent, about opening an Mp3 of Xvid File on Windows 8. On windows 7 you would get the short wizard for Windows Media player. you would click next and you would be watchng your video.

With Windows 8... you double click the video and WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****ING ****!!!! ...

My Dad was over for lunch one day and I wanted to quickly show him something on my laptop. First time I had played a video. So I ran over and got the laptop, set it down and double clicked the video. ........ WTF is this ****.... you want me to sign into something to play a ****ing video? I was expecting to have the video up in about 10 seconds like Windows 7.

My Dad heard me utter the words '****ING METRO!"

It was funny because on my contact list I also had someone who doesn't like Windows 8 very much, and he had just installed the CP. I asked him to try to open an Mp3 or Video file...

he replied with ...

"JESUS CHRIST!!!!"

Edited by warwagon, Mar 11 2012, 5:51pm :

warwagon said,

Also let me take a moment to vent, about opening an Mp3 of Xvid File on Windows 8.
On windows 7 you would get the short wizard for Windows Media player. you would
click next and you would be watchng your video.

With Windows 8... you double click the video and
WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****ING ****!!!! ...

My Dad was over for lunch one day and I wanted to quickly show him something on
my laptop. First time I had played a video. So I ran over and got the laptop, set it
down and double clicked the video. ........ WTF is this ****.... you want me to sign
into something to play a ****ing video? I was expecting to have the video up
in about 10 seconds like Windows 7.

My Dad heard me utter the words '****ING METRO!"

It was funny because on my contact list I also had someone who doesn't
like Windows 8 very much, and he had just installed the CP. I asked him to
try to open an Mp3 or Video file...

he replied with ...

"JESUS CHRIST!!!!"


Install VLC Media Player ... then right click on any media file, select "Play with VLC media player"
Or ... right click - select Open with - Choose default program... - select preferred media player.

DJGM said,

Install VLC Media Player ... then right click on any media file, select "Play with VLC media player"
Or ... right click - select Open with - Choose default program... - select preferred media player.

and that's exactly what I did, but what about the average use?. They won't know to do that. So for them Microsoft is making opening the out of the box experience for playing a video or Music harder.

warwagon said,
Last night I was using my Windows 8 laptop a lot more deeply than I normally go because I wanted to map my dvd drive to my media center.

I was very frustrated I'm not quite sure how anyone can be more productive on Windows 8 . I mean I can see a person saying they are more productive with windows 8 that if they aren't a power user and just browse the internet, for that I can see them living on the Metro screen and being more productive with than with Windows 7.

But if someone had themselves surrounded with 4 screens I just don't see 8 being more productive. Just the fact that the Metro home screen has to FILL 1 of the 4 screen, doesn't sound very productivity driven.

Also let me take a moment to vent, about opening an Mp3 of Xvid File on Windows 8. On windows 7 you would get the short wizard for Windows Media player. you would click next and you would be watchng your video.

With Windows 8... you double click the video and WHAT THE **** IS THIS ****ING ****!!!! ...

My Dad was over for lunch one day and I wanted to quickly show him something on my laptop. First time I had played a video. So I ran over and got the laptop, set it down and double clicked the video. ........ WTF is this ****.... you want me to sign into something to play a ****ing video? I was expecting to have the video up in about 10 seconds like Windows 7.

My Dad heard me utter the words '****ING METRO!"

It was funny because on my contact list I also had someone who doesn't like Windows 8 very much, and he had just installed the CP. I asked him to try to open an Mp3 or Video file...

he replied with ...

"JESUS CHRIST!!!!"


Hmm...I just started up WMP for the first time, and all I had to do was click "Recommend settings" and it started up as it did in Win 7. Unless you're talking about the Metro Zune Music/Video Apps?

warwagon said,

and that's exactly what I did, but what about the average use?. They won't know to do that. So for them Microsoft is making opening the out of the box experience for playing a video or Music harder.

warwagon, I'm not trying to offend you here, I"m really not. But, how long have you been using computers? I've used VLC player for years. The first thing I did was install it because I have a ton of .mkv files in addition to my .avi files.

In setup VLC ask you which files you want to associate it with. If you do absolutely nothing but hit next, it associates itself with the majority of file types for media.

As suggested above, most of us who have been using media on our computers for any given length of time know to right-click and select the "open with..." dialog if we want it to open with a specific program.

Or, you could also go to default programs and set it there.

In the end, your story sounds like user error or a lack of knowledge. Again, I'm not trying to attack you or offend you, I'm just saying that these are things YOU should have known.

Also, as a quick fyi, Metro had absolutely NOTHING to do with your ability to play a video file. Metro is a design language and philosophy. Just saying.

warwagon said,

and that's exactly what I did, but what about the average use?. They won't know to do that. So for them Microsoft is making opening the out of the box experience for playing a video or Music harder.

I agree this was an annoyance, I honestly think they will integrate some kind of welcome screen on the first boot which will ask whether the OS is being used on a Tablet or traditional form of Computer, if Tablet is selected then all of the Metro apps are made the default, if traditional, then all of the legacy apps are made the default.

Wyn6 said,

warwagon, I'm not trying to offend you here, I"m really not. But, how long have you been using computers? I've used VLC player for years. The first thing I did was install it because I have a ton of .mkv files in addition to my .avi files.

In setup VLC ask you which files you want to associate it with. If you do absolutely nothing but hit next, it associates itself with the majority of file types for media.

As suggested above, most of us who have been using media on our computers for any given length of time know to right-click and select the "open with..." dialog if we want it to open with a specific program.

Or, you could also go to default programs and set it there.

In the end, your story sounds like user error or a lack of knowledge. Again, I'm not trying to attack you or offend you, I'm just saying that these are things YOU should have known.

Also, as a quick fyi, Metro had absolutely NOTHING to do with your ability to play a video file. Metro is a design language and philosophy. Just saying.

Once again, I did install vlc I just wanted to play a video, and only had 8 installed for a day. Yes I did change the default. The average user doesn't know about vlc nor do they know how to change the default. I got annoyed and changed the default. The average user will just stay annoyed.

warwagon said,

and that's exactly what I did, but what about the average use?. They won't know to do that. So for them Microsoft is making opening the out of the box experience for playing a video or Music harder.

Come on, now you are just b*tching for no reason.

We all know the Metro Movie player is super buggy. by the time Win8 is RTM and these apps are finalized the experience is going to be much better.

Stoffel said,

Come on, now you are just b*tching for no reason.

We all know the Metro Movie player is super buggy. by the time Win8 is RTM and these apps are finalized the experience is going to be much better.

It's not the buggyness i'm talking about it's the fact it makes you sign in by default or create a windows live account to watch a video or play a movie.

warwagon said,

It's not the buggyness i'm talking about it's the fact it makes you sign in by default or create a windows live account to watch a video or play a movie.


Not to bug you more, but why didn't you sign into Windows with a Microsoft Account? Then you wouldn't need to sign in. Windows 8 is based around the idea that it's users will be signed in with an MS account while using most of the Metro features.

Matthew_Thepc said,
Not to bug you more, but why didn't you sign into Windows with a Microsoft Account?

Ever heard of local networks? People tend to have those… BTW: Windows Live Id doesn't play nice with WHS…

Sure I'll buy an oem copy when available and one for mom's Pc...everyone goes on about the average User is gonna be so lost...well I sat my 62 yr old mom in front of it yesterday and in 15ish minutes she could manage and navigate everything she uses a Pc for...I sent a message to chicken little to hold off for now as the sky isn't falling at least not around here

I voted for "No" simply because I'll be downloading the finalised version from Technet, rather
than buying the boxed retail version and it'll be a secondary OS dual booting alongside W7.

I'm still running the Consumer Preview at the moment, even though I'm still not keen on Metro
and the lack of a proper Start menu. Hopefully, at least one 3rd party developers could offer
these options as an add-on before the OS is eventually finalised and released.

We shouldn't really have to rely on 3rd party add-on software to re-instate GUI choices that
should never have been taken away in the first place. As I usually say ... choice is good.

By default, as part of my Technet Subscription, I will be buying Windows 8. Will I specifically buy it, probably not unless major changes occur which allow me to use the desktop without Metro.

FWIW, I love Metro on my Xbox, it just doesn't work for me on the PC. Maybe in time, but not right now.

It's amazing how childish people are on the internet.

Instead of "I won't buy because I don't like it" it's, "**** no, I don't like therefore it's ****" - yea, you look very tough and clever. Oh and manly, don't forget manly.

I have been using Windows 8 CP (in a VM) since the day it was released. I have used it everyday because I want to give the OS a chance. Unfortunately, I just can't qualify using it full time as my primary operating system offer Windows 7.

There are many suggestions regarding Windows 8 to try it properly and I concur. Windows 8 is much more usable once you have spent some quality time with it. Many people's gripes will disappear. Unfortunately many won't.

I used Windows ME and Windows Vista. I never had a problem with either; though once I first used Windows 2000 I wasn't going back - mainly for the speed and stability of the OS compared to ME - it was in an entirely different league. In my opinion, Vista was tremendously underrated. I ran the x64 version rather than the x86 version. Vista was awful on 32bit PCs simply because it's hardware requirements in reality needed more than the 32bit architecture could provide. Vista x64 with the right hardware was fast and stable. I used Office 2007 from the start too - I liked and still like the ribbon interface (even if it did take a little getting used to).

Nothing seems to have split the community more however than Windows 8. People's opinions differ and many are happy with the changes whilst many are not. I like Windows Phone and hope to use one someday once the hardware is more powerful and varied. I do believe though that Windows 8's UI is focused a little too much towards tablets rather than the traditional desktop.

Many people's opinions on this forum are along the lines of 'if you don't like it then just use Windows 7'. This doesn't address the inherent problems of Windows 8. It is also going to be a massive problem for Microsoft. This is a neo Windows website. Microsoft would prefer that all of us would want to upgrade to Windows 8. Simply that means more money for them and as many people here also provide technical advice to others, that means a lot f people will not be upgrading to Windows 8. Based on the current results, there is more people willing to stay on Windows 7 than change over to Windows 8 ( I won't say upgrade as many people view it as the opposite).

Microsoft has to appease traditional desktop users whatever the opinion as not doing so would tantamount to very poor business practice. Sales are good for a company and that is what Microsoft ultimately is. A company that has to get as many sales as possible, keep or gain as much market as possible and please their shareholders and investors.

Based upon the CP will I be upgrading to Windows 8 on my desktop? No. Would I love to have a Windows 8 tablet based upon the CP? Yes.

The CP though is not going to persuade me to do either. I shall await the final version and then give that a real chance as to whether I shall upgrade, not a preview version of a complex OS that is still in development. Anybody willing to forego Windows 8 based upon the CP rather than the final version is simply an idiot.

It's my primary laptop OS. Runs circles around Windows 7 as far as performance goes. I can't stand to even load 7 on that thing. It doesn't impeded my ability to do things any faster than I can do them on my primary desktop. Shortcuts and pinned items make quick work of performing tasks. I only ever used Start for search anyway. I don't live on the start screen as I mostly do desktop applications. It's nice to jump over to the start screen to see unread emails and app updates pending, plus weather at a glance. Works just fine.

Wow, I knew that there is a decent part of the community here that has problems with Windows 8 (me included), but I didn't expect this poll to have the results it does.

Seeing as I had no issues with Windows Vista (Yes really. In fact, it was perfectly stable for me), or Windows 7, I will likely purchase it.

I'm not a huge fan of the interface or the ribbon for that matter, but I'm more of a bleeding edge type person than the "Let's see if it's widely adopted" type user.

Metro is a step backwards on the desktop. IMHO it's clunky, unintuitive, and doesn't work well with a mouse.

I installed the CP and voted "no".

**If** MS has a way to remove or not use the Metro UI in W8 then I may change my mind. If they continue down this route I can be happy with 7.

T

Taliseian said,
Metro is a step backwards on the desktop. IMHO it's clunky, unintuitive, and doesn't work well with a mouse.

I installed the CP and voted "no".

**If** MS has a way to remove or not use the Metro UI in W8 then I may change my mind. If they continue down this route I can be happy with 7.

T

You don't have to use the metro UI. Clearly you didn't spend enough time with it.

I've installed it as my primary OS and have no problems. It is essentially Windows 7 with added features (e.g. iso mounting, better copy/paste features) and a metro Start screen. I honestly don't see what everyone's problem with it is...

I will buy it if there's an option to make it look just like Windows 7. Make Metro an option, kinda like Media Center where it can be closed and forgotten.

Been using it since it came out and based off what I've been seeing I wouldn't buy it. If a copy turned up cheap I might dual boot it.

I've been screensharing in skype as well as letting friends/family use my laptop. They just find the metro aspects of 8 very cumbersome. I find it silly that if you say you don't plan on buying it then obviously you must not have actually tried it.

I have been trying it, and using it and I wouldn't buy it based off this preview.

Nooope, I'll download it like all the other over priced, buggy, and infuriating Microsoft Operating systems of the past. I bought Windows ME. That basically covers me for ANYTHING that Microsoft produces for the rest of time. I'll never pay them a dime. Hell Microsoft doesn't even acknowledge it's existence and I'm owed a free ride. Which I'll continue to take. Bill? you ok with that? Kids starving? Your idiot CEO still destroying your company? Anyone home?

May be in a round about way, when I get a new pc. I'm not sure. I like the quick start up and the memory management/app suspension but I wouldn't pay £100+ for this privilege. I'm seriously thinking of staying with 7 despite explorer being slow,

The desktop enviroment works way better for me than win7 did, and that was a huge step up from Vista. I can now just put my desktop system to sleep and when I return to it am back at work in under 6 seconds, no way I can get even close to that on WIn7. My netbook jumps back to life from sleep virtually as soon as the screen is upright.. Again win7 not even close.. Just for that I wil gladly get win8 for both

And with my startscreen setup to hold ALL my important tools, links and people it's a joy to get to and performs like a charm..

IMO the vast majority of neysayers just do not grasp the concept yet..

I think this question is silly. Evaluating the usefulness of Metro today when there are only 95 apps on the store is like asking a Windows 7 user if he would buy that OS were there only a random assortment of 95 apps he could install. And his answer would clearly be no.

Talk to me when there are 3000 apps on the store. At the very least, you need a Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, and some news and music apps to make an honest comparison.

One thing I find true is that companies design better apps than they do websites. Let's take Flixster
Web: http://www.flixster.com
Android: http://cdn.carpeaqua.com/image...neycomb-review/flixster.png
Windows 8: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g9t...d/aJf6DHv6DS/Screenshot.png

Which would you rather use? And what's most powerful about Windows 8 is that when you install a Metro app, it gets integrated into search queries, making it extremely easy to search for a movie in Flixster from even the desktop without my hands ever leaving the keyboard.

dagamer34 said,
I think this question is silly. Evaluating the usefulness of Metro today when there are only 95 apps on the store is like asking a Windows 7 user if he would buy that OS were there only a random assortment of 95 apps he could install. And his answer would clearly be no.

Talk to me when there are 3000 apps on the store. At the very least, you need a Facebook, Twitter, Netflix, and some news and music apps to make an honest comparison.

One thing I find true is that companies design better apps than they do websites. Let's take Flixster
Web: http://www.flixster.com
Android: http://cdn.carpeaqua.com/image...neycomb-review/flixster.png
Windows 8: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/g9t...d/aJf6DHv6DS/Screenshot.png

Which would you rather use? And what's most powerful about Windows 8 is that when you install a Metro app, it gets integrated into search queries, making it extremely easy to search for a movie in Flixster from even the desktop without my hands ever leaving the keyboard.

I run few Metro apps; however, all my traditional apps/games/etc. made the trip with absolutely zero muss or fuss. Not some or most, but all.

So has all my hardware.

Am I running a tablet, slate, or even a notebook? Nope - traditional desktop PC (Q6600, G41 chipset, HD5450 GPU, 4 GB of RAM).

Will I install Windows 7 bare-metal again? Absolutely NOT. Not a chance.

I'm quite happy with the Consumer Preview (and as is, no less).

My homebase is the desktop (not the StartScreen) or even the Start menu ala Windows 7 (it wasn't the Start menu even in Windows 7). As I said, I run almost nothing BUT traditional applications. Windows 8 is a first-week (no later than first month) purchase for me.

Buy it? Nope. Use it? Nope. But I will get final release from Dreamspark, just to be up to date with things. Being a "professional student" does have bonuses (thanks, MS!).

For my tablets, absolutely. For the desktops, most likely. Metro stuff aside it's running really nicely, I like the new file manager and other new toys. Still have a love/hate thing with the start menu, but I'll either get used to it or just replace it.. felt the same way when Vista rolled around compared to XP's start menu.. replaced it for a while, but now I absolutely hate using XP's start menu.

Windows 8 is user interface fail in a major way. Explorer Ribbon unnecessary. Metro on desktop unnecessary. Why does Microsoft not learn from previous mistakes? Vista was enough to let it be known to them that users don't like UI changes which drop features or reduce productivity. There is no rational reason why Metro should be on large screens. Calling desktop apps "legacy" meaning they have no future and Metro style the only future is a rather insulting development.

xpclient said,
Windows 8 is user interface fail in a major way. Explorer Ribbon unnecessary. Metro on desktop unnecessary. Why does Microsoft not learn from previous mistakes? Vista was enough to let it be known to them that users don't like UI changes which drop features or reduce productivity. There is no rational reason why Metro should be on large screens. Calling desktop apps "legacy" meaning they have no future and Metro style the only future is a rather insulting development.

love this.

Ricardo Dawkins said,

Stay and keep using XP for the next 20 years the...

Might really have to because MS cannot build an OS after XP that serves power users' needs.

Oh and for all the touchscreen commenters, I was in the same boat. I Bought a Logitech wireless touchpad and touch mouse and it makes the Windows 8 experience on the desktop so nice. MS would be smart to bundle the desktop OS with a touchpad.

patseguin said,
Oh and for all the touchscreen commenters, I was in the same boat. I Bought a Logitech wireless touchpad and touch mouse and it makes the Windows 8 experience on the desktop so nice. MS would be smart to bundle the desktop OS with a touchpad.

what's next? should they bundle Office with an external keyboard? The moment you realize that you need special hardwire to get your basics done with a software, you know something is just plain wrong…

MFH said,

what's next? should they bundle Office with an external keyboard? The moment you realize that you need special hardwire to get your basics done with a software, you know something is just plain wrong…

It was just an idea, albeit probably a dub one lol. WIndows 8 is way different with a touchpad and/or touch mouse.

Wow I'm pretty dismayed at the overwhelming negative responses. Besides a driver issue for me, I think the Windows 8 experience is great and it's a superb OS.

For my tablet, yes I will buy windows 8. Unless I get a freebie from a launch event.

For my main machine I am uncertain yet. I haven't had a chance to load it on a spare HDD yet.

zeke009 said,
For my tablet, yes I will buy windows 8. Unless I get a freebie from a launch event.

For my main machine I am uncertain yet. I haven't had a chance to load it on a spare HDD yet.


You can't load it on an external hard drive if that was what you're planning. You'll have to partition an internal drive.

De.Bug said,

You can't load it on an external hard drive if that was what you're planning. You'll have to partition an internal drive.

I've got it on an external eSata drive. Works fine.

windbreaker11 said,

I've got it on an external eSata drive. Works fine.

Ahh I guess it just doesn't work for USB drives then.

This will be another Windows ME or Vista if MS doesn't allow for desktop only interface on desktops and laptops. MS is being far too pushy on the change and they need to gradually introduce this new interface or allow a regression back to Classic Win7 style. I suspect that if nothing changes, Win9 will redeem them like Win7 did.

windbreaker11 said,
This will be another Windows ME or Vista if MS doesn't allow for desktop only interface on desktops and laptops.
What was wrong with Vista? Examples are required as opposed to "it just didn't work," because it worked quite well.

windbreaker11 said,
This will be another Windows ME or Vista if MS doesn't allow for desktop only interface on desktops and laptops. MS is being far too pushy on the change and they need to gradually introduce this new interface or allow a regression back to Classic Win7 style. I suspect that if nothing changes, Win9 will redeem them like Win7 did.

You can still use the regular desktop in windows 8. I do. I have no need to touch metro in order to do all the things I do in windows 7 now. And still get the added features of windows 8.

windbreaker11 said,
This will be another ... Vista

Windows Vista sold hundreds of millions of copies. Not quite the success that XP or 7 was in terms of sales, but that's still pretty good for a "failure".

While hesitant at first after trying WCP for a while I've become a fan and see a lot of potential as more Metro apps are developed. Plus, all of my old Windows 7 stuff works perfectly, even some of the hackish things on my system (like unsigned drivers). The new interface definitely takes some getting used to, so give it some time. Also remember this is just a preview release so I'm sure the final will be more polished, and likely include a tutorial to help upgraders learn the new system. I think W8 will be a hit. But I'm usually wrong about this stuff.

satukoro said,
What was wrong with Vista? Examples are required as opposed to "it just didn't work," because it worked quite well.

GDI was not hardware accelerated (partial hardware acceleration bought back in Windows 7) and because Windows is still very much GDI reliant the performance hit was substantial on low powered machines (even on higher powered machines there was a performance hit). Then there was the issue of memory, in particular how the composite manager work with its interaction with GDI resulting in memory ballooning in size pretty quickly etc.

Putting all that in its context though Windows Vista was almost like Apple's Mac OS X 10.0 - introducing ALOT of new technologies such as WDDM etc. so one isn't surprised at the hiccups along the way but one has to remember that without Windows Vista there would no Windows 7. Windows Vista laid all the foundation for Windows 7 - without those changes you wouldn't have Windows 7.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

GDI was not hardware accelerated (partial hardware acceleration bought back in Windows 7) and because Windows is still very much GDI reliant the performance hit was substantial on low powered machines (even on higher powered machines there was a performance hit). Then there was the issue of memory, in particular how the composite manager work with its interaction with GDI resulting in memory ballooning in size pretty quickly etc.

Putting all that in its context though Windows Vista was almost like Apple's Mac OS X 10.0 - introducing ALOT of new technologies such as WDDM etc. so one isn't surprised at the hiccups along the way but one has to remember that without Windows Vista there would no Windows 7. Windows Vista laid all the foundation for Windows 7 - without those changes you wouldn't have Windows 7.

So how exactly is Windows 8 going to be the same?

I will definatelly buy an upgrade from win7. Its just too sweet.
For the haters, first give it a try and then downvote as much as you want.

try = try it for a week not for 2 seconds.

Some people are stuck in the past and refuse to adapt to latest changes/innovation in technology

I've used Ribbon UI since Office 2007 and 2010 and really like it...I can't go back to old and ugly Office 2003 UI after getting used to Ribbon...using Ribbon DOES increase productivity

same goes for Metro...I've been using CP as my main OS since day one and never used Windows 7 again...faster performance and simplicity of Metro UI are the main reasons why I prefer Windows 8 over 7

blame yourself for not be able to accept changes...not Microsoft

Eins.MY said,
Some people are stuck in the past and refuse to adapt to latest changes/innovation in technology

I've used Ribbon UI since Office 2007 and 2010 and really like it...I can't go back to old and ugly Office 2003 UI after getting used to Ribbon...using Ribbon DOES increase productivity

same goes for Metro...I've been using CP as my main OS since day one and never used Windows 7 again...faster performance and simplicity of Metro UI are the main reasons why I prefer Windows 8 over 7

blame yourself for not be able to accept changes...not Microsoft


The whole thing is not complaining over change but it's removed/useless features I can see if Microsoft made a new operating system nothing is new but they have a new design scheme and people complaining THEN you can say people don't like change but the difference is Windows 8 has a "Metro" interface which is meant for tablets but they are forcing it on you to like it. The reason I don't want it is because I Multitask as I thought what a Computer was for. I mean sure we have a "Desktop" App... but it doesn't have a start menu and the useless ****ty menu they added goes to the horrid metro lets use time for an example of opening Photoshop and Internet Explorer. In Windows 7 all I have to do is Boot up The Computer and Click Start Menu and Click Photoshop and Click Internet Explorer on the same thing. On Windows 8 I have to Boot up The Computer THEN scroll for my life through a list of apps and find photoshop THEN once photostop is open it goes to the desktop so now once desktop is open go back to Metro Then Click Internet Explorer BUT WAIT IE10 is a Metro App Which means I loose Multitasking so Instead of having just a Windows of Internet Explorer and Photostop at the same time as I could do in Windows 7, In Windows 8 I have to click back and forward just to use both of those features. 1 Thing I keep saying over and over and over and over and over! This is a COMPUTER NOT a TABLET!

Totalaero said,

The whole thing is not complaining over change but it's removed/useless features I can see if Microsoft made a new operating system nothing is new but they have a new design scheme and people complaining THEN you can say people don't like change but the difference is Windows 8 has a "Metro" interface which is meant for tablets but they are forcing it on you to like it. The reason I don't want it is because I Multitask as I thought what a Computer was for. I mean sure we have a "Desktop" App... but it doesn't have a start menu and the useless ****ty menu they added goes to the horrid metro lets use time for an example of opening Photoshop and Internet Explorer. In Windows 7 all I have to do is Boot up The Computer and Click Start Menu and Click Photoshop and Click Internet Explorer on the same thing. On Windows 8 I have to Boot up The Computer THEN scroll for my life through a list of apps and find photoshop THEN once photostop is open it goes to the desktop so now once desktop is open go back to Metro Then Click Internet Explorer BUT WAIT IE10 is a Metro App Which means I loose Multitasking so Instead of having just a Windows of Internet Explorer and Photostop at the same time as I could do in Windows 7, In Windows 8 I have to click back and forward just to use both of those features. 1 Thing I keep saying over and over and over and over and over! This is a COMPUTER NOT a TABLET!

I suggest you spend more time using Win8. You can customize it so you can have all those features that you are talking about. I dual boot between Win7 and Win8 and I was using Win8 for over a week, decided to go back to Win7 for while. First of all, the speed difference is huge, Win8 is much faster. After customizing the UI in Win8, I find it much more user friendly. I suggest you take the time to learn the UI and how to customize Win8. If after doing this you decide it is still not for you then that is your choice.

Edited by paesan, Mar 11 2012, 4:55pm :

paesan said,

I suggest you spend more time using Win8. You can customize it so you can have all those features that you are talking about. I dual boot between Win7 and Win8 and I was using Win8 for over a week, decided to go back to Win7 for while. First of all, the speed difference is huge, Win8 is much faster. After customizing the UI in Win8, I find it much more user friendly. I suggest you take the time to learn the UI and how to customize Win8. If after doing this you decide it is still not for you then that is your choice.
All you are saying is the speed is faster you still ignore the fact it takes longer to do simple processes.

Totalaero said,
All you are saying is the speed is faster you still ignore the fact it takes longer to do simple processes.

No, I also said if you take the time to learn the UI and customize it you will find that it is faster to navigate around. I hated the new UI at first but once I learned it and customized it I like it much more than Win7. JMHO

Eins.MY said,
Some people are stuck in the past and refuse to adapt to latest changes/innovation in technology

I've used Ribbon UI since Office 2007 and 2010 and really like it...I can't go back to old and ugly Office 2003 UI after getting used to Ribbon...using Ribbon DOES increase productivity

same goes for Metro...I've been using CP as my main OS since day one and never used Windows 7 again...faster performance and simplicity of Metro UI are the main reasons why I prefer Windows 8 over 7

blame yourself for not be able to accept changes...not Microsoft


Using a Touchscreen UI on a traditional Desktop? You call that innovation? No, that's just a move backwards, Microsoft has taken the step to totally neuter the desktop by removing the last vestiges of the traditional "start" menu just to make sure that some diehards have no way of incapacitating its "brilliant" Start Screen so as to make people use features what they don't want to. There is no doubts that it is going to fail..

Eins.MY said,
Some people are stuck in the past and refuse to adapt to latest changes/innovation in technology

I've used Ribbon UI since Office 2007 and 2010 and really like it...I can't go back to old and ugly Office 2003 UI after getting used to Ribbon...using Ribbon DOES increase productivity

same goes for Metro...I've been using CP as my main OS since day one and never used Windows 7 again...faster performance and simplicity of Metro UI are the main reasons why I prefer Windows 8 over 7

blame yourself for not be able to accept changes...not Microsoft

I <3 Office 2010, but Metro can get lost.

Totalaero said,

The whole thing is not complaining over change but it's removed/useless features I can see if Microsoft made a new operating system nothing is new but they have a new design scheme and people complaining THEN you can say people don't like change but the difference is Windows 8 has a "Metro" interface which is meant for tablets but they are forcing it on you to like it. The reason I don't want it is because I Multitask as I thought what a Computer was for. I mean sure we have a "Desktop" App... but it doesn't have a start menu and the useless ****ty menu they added goes to the horrid metro lets use time for an example of opening Photoshop and Internet Explorer. In Windows 7 all I have to do is Boot up The Computer and Click Start Menu and Click Photoshop and Click Internet Explorer on the same thing. On Windows 8 I have to Boot up The Computer THEN scroll for my life through a list of apps and find photoshop THEN once photostop is open it goes to the desktop so now once desktop is open go back to Metro Then Click Internet Explorer BUT WAIT IE10 is a Metro App Which means I loose Multitasking so Instead of having just a Windows of Internet Explorer and Photostop at the same time as I could do in Windows 7, In Windows 8 I have to click back and forward just to use both of those features. 1 Thing I keep saying over and over and over and over and over! This is a COMPUTER NOT a TABLET!

If you are already at the desktop with photoshop open then click the IE icon on the Taskbar if you did'nt remove it and you open the non-metro IE 10. If you use Photoshop a lot then pin it to the taskbar or put an icon on the desktop just like other programs you will be using most of the time.

Eins.MY said,
same goes for Metro...I've been using CP as my main OS since day one and never used Windows 7 again...faster performance and simplicity of Metro UI are the main reasons why I prefer Windows 8 over 7

What I absolutely love about this is people around here have been attacking Apple for ages for keeping things simple. Now Microsoft "dumbs down" (that's what those people said about OS X and iOS) Windows they're praising the company for doing so. Hilarious.

Totalaero said,

The whole thing is not complaining over change but it's removed/useless features I can see if Microsoft made a new operating system nothing is new but they have a new design scheme and people complaining THEN you can say people don't like change but the difference is Windows 8 has a "Metro" interface which is meant for tablets but they are forcing it on you to like it. The reason I don't want it is because I Multitask as I thought what a Computer was for. I mean sure we have a "Desktop" App... but it doesn't have a start menu and the useless ****ty menu they added goes to the horrid metro lets use time for an example of opening Photoshop and Internet Explorer. In Windows 7 all I have to do is Boot up The Computer and Click Start Menu and Click Photoshop and Click Internet Explorer on the same thing. On Windows 8 I have to Boot up The Computer THEN scroll for my life through a list of apps and find photoshop THEN once photostop is open it goes to the desktop so now once desktop is open go back to Metro Then Click Internet Explorer BUT WAIT IE10 is a Metro App Which means I loose Multitasking so Instead of having just a Windows of Internet Explorer and Photostop at the same time as I could do in Windows 7, In Windows 8 I have to click back and forward just to use both of those features. 1 Thing I keep saying over and over and over and over and over! This is a COMPUTER NOT a TABLET!

It's clear you haven't bothered to really try to learn to use Windows 8 yet. It is extremely simple to launch programs with the new Star Screen. The first thing anyone does on booting is open a program. All you have to do on the Start Screen is start typing. It automatically brings the programs that match up and boom, you have it.
It is so much easier than the start menu ever was (of course I've been searching using the old start menu to open programs for awhile anyway since it was faster)

Totalaero said,

The whole thing is not complaining over change but it's removed/useless features I can see if Microsoft made a new operating system nothing is new but they have a new design scheme and people complaining THEN you can say people don't like change but the difference is Windows 8 has a "Metro" interface which is meant for tablets but they are forcing it on you to like it. The reason I don't want it is because I Multitask as I thought what a Computer was for. I mean sure we have a "Desktop" App... but it doesn't have a start menu and the useless ****ty menu they added goes to the horrid metro lets use time for an example of opening Photoshop and Internet Explorer. In Windows 7 all I have to do is Boot up The Computer and Click Start Menu and Click Photoshop and Click Internet Explorer on the same thing. On Windows 8 I have to Boot up The Computer THEN scroll for my life through a list of apps and find photoshop THEN once photostop is open it goes to the desktop so now once desktop is open go back to Metro Then Click Internet Explorer BUT WAIT IE10 is a Metro App Which means I loose Multitasking so Instead of having just a Windows of Internet Explorer and Photostop at the same time as I could do in Windows 7, In Windows 8 I have to click back and forward just to use both of those features. 1 Thing I keep saying over and over and over and over and over! This is a COMPUTER NOT a TABLET!

You are doing it WRONG
You can place the Photoshop tile right on the left side if it's an app you use a lot.
So in Win 8 it would go like this.
Computer boots to start screen.
You click Photoshop tile, computer goes to desktop and starts Photoshop
You click on the IE icon on your taskbar to start IE (It's standard pinned to the taskbar) on the desktop.

paesan said,

I suggest you take the time to learn the UI and how to customize Win8. If after doing this you decide it is still not for you then that is your choice.

I use both a Desktop and a Tablet PC and on the latter you cannot use W8 with a pen.
I suggest you try to use W8 CP with a Tablet......

yowanvista said,
Touchscreen OS with Touch features on a Desktop PC? Hell NO
If you have a mouse with a scroll-wheel, it's faster and more efficient than Windows 7.

satukoro said,
If you have a mouse with a scroll-wheel, it's faster and more efficient than Windows 7.

Having a full screen 'start menu' isn't aesthetically appealing nor usable for me. I don't need something that covers up my whole screen, keep that for tablets. Such a radical change will doom Windows 8.

yowanvista said,

Having a full screen 'start menu' isn't aesthetically appealing nor usable for me. I don't need something that covers up my whole screen, keep that for tablets. Such a radical change will doom Windows 8.

Then don't use it. You can use windows 8 and never even touch metro.

satukoro said,
If you have a mouse with a scroll-wheel, it's faster and more efficient than Windows 7.

Actually, one of the cool upgrades in the WCP over the WDP is that now you just move your mouse to the side of the Start Menu and then keep moving, and it scrolls to that side as if you had a finger moving it.

satukoro said,
If you have a mouse with a scroll-wheel, it's faster and more efficient than Windows 7.

This is so not true.

yowanvista said,
Touchscreen OS with Touch features on a Desktop PC? Hell NO

Windows 8 has already been demonstrated with a touchpad - too bad people like yowanvista ignore what is happening on the desktop front in favour of clogging up this forum with their ill-informed whining.

Mr Nom Nom's said,

Windows 8 has already been demonstrated with a touchpad - too bad people like yowanvista ignore what is happening on the desktop front in favour of clogging up this forum with their ill-informed whining.


I've used Windows 8 CP for almost a day and most it wasn't that simple to use, too much emphasis was put on Touch features and Desktop users were as if kept in the dark. btw giving out opinions doesn't " clog up this forum" as you said.

The way it is now....NOPE. They need to go back to the format that feels good and works good or else they won't sell it. Problem I have with it being sold as it is now is people will buy new computers and it will come with it thus forcing it into the faces of people with a format that is not user friendly. They need to put it like 7 but with the added features as options.

sava700 said,
forcing it into the faces of people with a format that is not user friendly

Thats the thing: It IS in a format that is user friendly. You have completely no idea what Windows 8 is do.....

The goals seens is touchscreen based and user friendly by adding in that Start Screen.

Thats why tech users like us (well like me and the rest who have posted here not including yourself) feel "left out" or so to speak.

htcz said,

Thats the thing: It IS in a format that is user friendly. You have completely no idea what Windows 8 is do.....

The goals seens is touchscreen based and user friendly by adding in that Start Screen.

Thats why tech users like us (well like me and the rest who have posted here not including yourself) feel "left out" or so to speak.

In my opinion microsoft must have plans to release their own tablet or something because windows 8 looks more for touch screen pc's than a regular desktop.

htcz said,

Thats the thing: It IS in a format that is user friendly. You have completely no idea what Windows 8 is do.....

The goals seens is touchscreen based and user friendly by adding in that Start Screen.

Thats why tech users like us (well like me and the rest who have posted here not including yourself) feel "left out" or so to speak.

No that's your opinion, others disagree. And remember how Vista was vilified by tech users, so much so I still hear "as long as it doesn't have Vista on it..."

htcz said,

Thats the thing: It IS in a format that is user friendly. You have completely no idea what Windows 8 is do.....

The goals seens is touchscreen based and user friendly by adding in that Start Screen.

Thats why tech users like us (well like me and the rest who have posted here not including yourself) feel "left out" or so to speak.

I put my wife in front of it; she's just a regular user. She managed to get to the desktop, she managed to start IE, then she was stuffed. She couldn't figure out how to get back to the start screen, find any programs, or even shut it down.

This experience WILL be repeated million-fold unless something changes. MS need to put the Start button at least,back where it belongs. Hiding it just makes the OS un-usable for average people.

3dfxman said,

In my opinion microsoft must have plans to release their own tablet or something because windows 8 looks more for touch screen pc's than a regular desktop.

It's for tablets and desktops. In fact most of the demos of it are on tablets. And it works amazing on them. I dare say better than an ipad and i've owned an ipad since they came out.
And if you don't like metro on the desktop, don't use it. Simple. There's still enough reason to use Windows 8 on the desktop.

Depicus said,

No that's your opinion, others disagree. And remember how Vista was vilified by tech users, so much so I still hear "as long as it doesn't have Vista on it..."


It is not a opinion. It is a visible fact.

htcz said,

Thats the thing: It IS in a format that is user friendly. You have completely no idea what Windows 8 is do.....

The goals seens is touchscreen based and user friendly by adding in that Start Screen.

Thats why tech users like us (well like me and the rest who have posted here not including yourself) feel "left out" or so to speak.

No! The problem is that the CP is unusable is what should be its strongest selling point: Tablets PCs.
It might work well with Touch screens but it does not work at all using a pen; and personally I would never trade the ability to use of the pen for the one to touch the screen. it is a PC not a phone.

FloatingFatMan said,

I put my wife in front of it; she's just a regular user. She managed to get to the desktop, she managed to start IE, then she was stuffed. She couldn't figure out how to get back to the start screen, find any programs, or even shut it down.

This experience WILL be repeated million-fold unless something changes. MS need to put the Start button at least,back where it belongs. Hiding it just makes the OS un-usable for average people.


I did the same thing for my girlfriend. I had to explain to her that you need to drag up to get to the user account password prompt. She then managed to open IE but was confused when flash wasn't loading, didn't know how to close IE. I then had to tell her how to shut down the machine. She's not some IT whiz or a technophobe, just a normal user.

Windows Phone 7 has a metro UI- look how far that got Microsoft!
People are not interested in a "cool-looking, dynamic interface", they're interested in usability. Metro may look cool (even that's debatable) but does not make you get your work done faster.

I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so confusing and slows the hell out of out you. Things that used to take half a second in Excel 2003 take half a minute in excel 2007.

Seriously, MS needs to get their stuff together. It seems like they've lost track what direction to go with their programs.

superconductive said,
Windows Phone 7 has a metro UI- look how far that got Microsoft!
People are not interested in a "cool-looking, dynamic interface", they're interested in usability. Metro may look cool (even that's debatable) but does not make you get your work done faster.

I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so confusing and slows the hell out of out you. Things that used to take half a second in Excel 2003 take half a minute in excel 2007.

Seriously, MS needs to get their stuff together. It seems like they've lost track what direction to go with their programs.

I am much more productive with the ribbon. But the metro interface is way too heavily geared towards touch interfaces and not desktops or laptops. There is no way to decide not to use it by default. If MS relents and allows desktop only with mouse and keyboard for desktop or laptops (detect the device?), then I would be amiable to purchase it. Either way, I have Technet, so will prolly have full access to the full version if I want it.

superconductive said,

I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so confusing and slows the hell out of out you. Things that used to take half a second in Excel 2003 take half a minute in excel 2007.

Wow, proof please? Or are you talking about the first minute you ever used it (where this comment would be totally false already)?

superconductive said,
Windows Phone 7 has a metro UI- look how far that got Microsoft!
People are not interested in a "cool-looking, dynamic interface", they're interested in usability. Metro may look cool (even that's debatable) but does not make you get your work done faster.

I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so confusing and slows the hell out of out you. Things that used to take half a second in Excel 2003 take half a minute in excel 2007.

Seriously, MS needs to get their stuff together. It seems like they've lost track what direction to go with their programs.

I have a Windows Phone 7, and I do work faster. I know whether I have new emails or text messages without even unlocking the phone. No more wasting time logging into email accounts to discover there's nothing new. The icons on the tiles change based on what's going on. Again, I can look at the locked screen or tiles to know if something is up. The phone tile changes to a phone and reel to reel audio tape if you have voice mail. The emoticon for text messages will change to a :-( if a text failed to be sent. (Happened only once so far.) With the contacts I saved to the main screen, they also change. If an email came from one of them, it shows it on their tile. They got tagged in a Facebook photo, the tile shows that photo as it cycles through information.

Even when I want to waste time, I can't do that unless I play games or something like that. I've only had this phone for 2 months now.

...and yes, I like the new Office products too. However, I mainly use Word so I can't comment on Excel.

superconductive said,
I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so slow and confuses the hell out of out me. Things that used to take half a minute in Excel 2003 take half a second in excel 2007 & 2010.
Fixed that for you.

Opinions on ribbon interface may vary, I get it. There's a whole community of people like me who dislike it, and several programs devoted to reverting back to the classic interface.
But in general what I'm trying to convey is that sometimes cute does not equal productivity.

superconductive said,
Windows Phone 7 has a metro UI- look how far that got Microsoft!
People are not interested in a "cool-looking, dynamic interface", they're interested in usability. Metro may look cool (even that's debatable) but does not make you get your work done faster.

I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so confusing and slows the hell out of out you. Things that used to take half a second in Excel 2003 take half a minute in excel 2007.

Seriously, MS needs to get their stuff together. It seems like they've lost track what direction to go with their programs.

Xbox has a metro UI, look how well that worked for microsoft! Oh wait.

I have a WP7. And until you've owned one you really have no idea. Highest in customer satisfaction. They have an image issue to get past and the fact that retailers don't know much about WP7 and actually try to steer people away from them has something to do with it. Yet sales are increasing.

The UI is amazing and the UI in windows 8 will be amazing for tablets as well. And if you don't like it on the desktop you don't have to use it. You can in fact completely avoid it without too much trouble and you still get a better OS than Windows 7.

superconductive said,
Windows Phone 7 has a metro UI- look how far that got Microsoft!
People are not interested in a "cool-looking, dynamic interface", they're interested in usability. Metro may look cool (even that's debatable) but does not make you get your work done faster.

I'll give you another example- the ribbon UI in all their programs. Can anybody honestly say they were able to get work done faster with it? It's so confusing and slows the hell out of out you. Things that used to take half a second in Excel 2003 take half a minute in excel 2007.

Seriously, MS needs to get their stuff together. It seems like they've lost track what direction to go with their programs.

i'll be the first to admit that i'm no MS Office mage. the ribbon allows me to do things in Office i would otherwise have no idea where to go to find, or even expose features i never knew existed. i think that was the point of the ribbon and they hit the nail on the head.

if you dislike W8 because of Metro and associated apps, don't upgrade. just like Office 2007 and Photoshop CS2, which i still use because it supports all the necessary file formats and there hasn't been any new features that necessitate an upgrade, they do what i need and i didn't have to spend another dime.

my advice to all the haters: don't upgrade from Windows 7 until it stops being able to run what you want to run.

archer75 said,

Xbox has a metro UI, look how well that worked for microsoft! Oh wait.

I have a WP7. And until you've owned one you really have no idea. Highest in customer satisfaction. They have an image issue to get past and the fact that retailers don't know much about WP7 and actually try to steer people away from them has something to do with it. Yet sales are increasing.

The UI is amazing and the UI in windows 8 will be amazing for tablets as well. And if you don't like it on the desktop you don't have to use it. You can in fact completely avoid it without too much trouble and you still get a better OS than Windows 7.

Thats why it should be an opt in or opt out feature. The older start menu was more functional for some people and people with non-touch PCs. MS does not need to dump metro on everybody. Given the current state of things and the fact that some settings can only be configured from the metro settings screen, its a very very rare possibility that they will do so.

Bingo, you said it!
I hated the ribbon first when it came in Office 2007.
Spent a little time with Office 2010, and I'm now hooked.
The best thing is that I don't have to forget any shortcuts I learnt with Office 2003!
Honestly, I think the Ribbon is one of the best UI ideas from MS, better then even Metro!

MFH said,
I agree on the Metro part, but disagree on the Ribbon part…

yes I like the Ribbon although I still hope that MS will upgrade the Ribbon style in W8 to match the current one used in Office; of course I am not even dreaming to get the style of the upcoming Office one......

Yup, I spend 90% of my time in the Aero desktop, and everything that side works better than Windows 7 for me. It boots faster, has a nicer lockscreen. All the added goodies built into the aero-side are worth it alone for me.

McKay said,
Yup, I spend 90% of my time in the Aero desktop, and everything that side works better than Windows 7 for me. It boots faster, has a nicer lockscreen. All the added goodies built into the aero-side are worth it alone for me.
Exactly. I love the new task manager, copy/paste dialog box, ribbon and fast boot. Although the metro screen in its current form is simply a downer. Most of the apps don't even work. Plus replacing the start menu is a big mistake because metro start don't give you jumplist functionality for pinned apps which was one thing that made me fall in love with Win7. Even shutting down your pc is a pain.

gzAsher said,
Exactly. I love the new task manager, copy/paste dialog box, ribbon and fast boot. Although the metro screen in its current form is simply a downer. Most of the apps don't even work. Plus replacing the start menu is a big mistake because metro start don't give you jumplist functionality for pinned apps which was one thing that made me fall in love with Win7. Even shutting down your pc is a pain.

Most apps didn't work for me either so I reinstalled and chose to keep personal files only now everything works. This is a beta

matrix64 said,
I'll just get a community edition if there ever comes a need to leave Windows 7, which are perfectly fine for now.

In installed Win8 and tested it for eight days and sent Microsoft as much feedback as I could. I would have stuck to Win8 if it didn't feel like I was losing functionaly. Microsoft took the position of making Win8 EXCEPTIONALLY easy to use. In that process all those options that we power users like to have acces to are hidden. I don't have a big problem with that its just that im very ambivelant about it.

I'm going to stick to Win7 on my desktop but totally expect to rock a Nokia tablet running Win8. I have no doubt at all that Win8 will succeed on tablets.

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

What are you basing your opinion on?

CJEric said,

How is that obvious?

It's simple human nature, yet hard to explain.
Looking at a few static Metro screenshots here and then clicking NO NO NO everywhere is a lot simpler for people than installing Windows 8 Consumer Preview on your PC, trying it out for a few hours and then considering wether you are really going to buy it or not.

So that means it's obvious because in the minute this article came out, 10 votes already went to 'No'.

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

And why should I have to try Windows when I'm not interested in it in the first place?

The question is "Will you buy Windows 8". The answer to that is; How about **** no?

MiukuMac said,

The question is "Will you buy Windows 8". The answer to that is; How about **** no?

Not really, the question also says: "Based on your experiences using the Consumer Preview" and people (like you) keep ignoring this.

MiukuMac said,

And why should I have to try Windows when I'm not interested in it in the first place?

The question is "Will you buy Windows 8". The answer to that is; How about **** no?

Read it again. The question is "Based on your experiences..." Not simply "Will you buy it?"

As with many articles, in general, it seems too many people comment on things without reading the full article. Read the title or first paragraph and start commenting - even if your comments are disproved in the following paragraphs.

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

So in other words: you still think that everybody who tried the CP will like Win8…

MFH said,

So in other words: you still think that everybody who tried the CP will like Win8…

I never claimed that... Where'd you get that 'still' from?
It's obvious that any OS won't get everybody to like it (especially non-final versions), but it's common sense that there are and always will be people that hate it already because of the company, the screenshots, negative reviews etc... I know that 90% is kind of exaggerated, but nobody here is able to say (s)he has never exaggerated about something...

Totalaero said,
Microsoft fanboys..
I used Vista and didn't have any problems with it in the same way I'm going to use Windows 8 without any problems. Does that make me a Microsoft fanboy?

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

Iv been dual booting it with 7 since it came out, i actually find myself going back and forth between the two trying to decide which i like better.

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

pretty sure I tried it.. pretty sure my answer was still no... actually scratch that.. I DID try it, and I DID answer no.

Cøi said,

I never claimed that... Where'd you get that 'still' from?
It's obvious that any OS won't get everybody to like it (especially non-final versions), but it's common sense that there are and always will be people that hate it already because of the company, the screenshots, negative reviews etc... I know that 90% is kind of exaggerated, but nobody here is able to say (s)he has never exaggerated about something...

So? Every company has to deal with that.

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

Also, did you interview all of them that it's so obvious to you?

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

Breaking news.... 87.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

satukoro said,
I used Vista and didn't have any problems with it in the same way I'm going to use Windows 8 without any problems. Does that make me a Microsoft fanboy?

I used vista just as I used 7... yes, it has quite a lot of requirements but still was good, windows 8 start menu even after a day I just don't like it.

TCLN Ryster said,

Breaking news.... 87.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

And 63.12894% of statistics are esimations.

Yep, I actually didn't mind Vista. But the Start Screen. urrghh. Still running it on my PDC laptop, still using it everyday, still hating it.

Cøi said,

It's simple human nature, yet hard to explain.
Looking at a few static Metro screenshots here and then clicking NO NO NO everywhere is a lot simpler for people than installing Windows 8 Consumer Preview on your PC, trying it out for a few hours and then considering wether you are really going to buy it or not.

So that means it's obvious because in the minute this article came out, 10 votes already went to 'No'.

There is no actual data supporting any of that. It could be that more no voters have already tried it.

Cøi said,
What a reliable poll when it's obvious that 90% of the No-voters didn't even try it.

On what basis... I have it installed nd am using it but I am not going to upgrade. The metro-Aero blend has been poorly done and looks awkward to put simply.

Cøi said,

So that means it's obvious because in the minute this article came out, 10 votes already went to 'No'.

It does not seem so obvious to me: I have been using the CP for a while now, I saw the poll and I voted. What is the point? he build was not released yesterday.........…
Btw I voted yes......

satukoro said,
I used Vista and didn't have any problems with it in the same way I'm going to use Windows 8 without any problems. Does that make me a Microsoft fanboy?

No it doesn't. I used vista too and liked it. Most of the anti-win8 never even tried it. They were like they "changed the start menu! i hate it" cause most of them were complaining on the day of release. Use this for a week and you'll realize how good it is as you discover new things. I was pleasantly surprised when I right clicked where the start orb used to be to discover great system shortcuts that win7 didn't have. I am definitely getting it

satukoro said,
Have fun.

Lol. I just LOVE that if someone doesn't like the "new" in thing here, they're pretty much told to swivel.

Vice said,
haha no.

Windows 8 looks like a joke to me. I won't be wasting money on a downgrade from Windows 7.

In its current form...no. Unless there is an option to completely disable Metro, I will not be using it. Metro looks like some poorly thought out 3rd party app.

Everything else about Win8 I've liked...but that Metro is just silly stupid...especially without an option of using the regular ol' start menu.

Vice said,
haha no.

Windows 8 looks like a joke to me. I won't be wasting money on a downgrade from Windows 7.

lol your comment is funny

SPARTdAN said,

Lol. I just LOVE that if someone doesn't like the "new" in thing here, they're pretty much told to swivel.


Well, if you're talking about me, I just don't like people acting like the beta of Windows 8 is the worst issue going on in the world right now...

Vice said,
haha no.

Windows 8 looks like a joke to me. I won't be wasting money on a downgrade from Windows 7.

While it is understandable why you may not like the Metro interface, it certainly isn't a downgrade to 7. There are many improvements from boot time to the Task Manager to the copy system just to name a few. I really think the dislike of Metro is throwing a lot of people off.

ghos said,

While it is understandable why you may not like the Metro interface, it certainly isn't a downgrade to 7. There are many improvements from boot time to the Task Manager to the copy system just to name a few. I really think the dislike of Metro is throwing a lot of people off.

I completely agree with you that it has many improvements such as the new explorer, file copying windows and other such enhancements.

However Metro and the removal of the start menu means I'm downgrading as I'm losing functionality I relied on and still used. There were a lot of enhancements that could have been made to the traditional and fully functional desktop. Instead they have downgraded us in my opinion. Thus I won't be upgrading I'll stick with Windows 7 and Microsoft can continue to chase Apple and the lucrative tablet market.

Microsoft got this one way wrong and I think they will be quick to backtrack.

jjkusaf said,

In its current form...no. Unless there is an option to completely disable Metro, I will not be using it. Metro looks like some poorly thought out 3rd party app.

Everything else about Win8 I've liked...but that Metro is just silly stupid...especially without an option of using the regular ol' start menu.

^My EXACT feelings.

SPARTdAN said,

Lol. I just LOVE that if someone doesn't like the "new" in thing here, they're pretty much told to swivel.

Don't you know it? On a tech forum, if your stuff isn't tomorrows stuff, it's junk to most people!

This almost instantly made me think of everyone who's always saying it's time for XP to die, when it runs perfectly great on so many machines and it's supported until 2014!

As far as the topic:
No,
Windows 7 works great for me, for now!!

Vice said,
haha no.

Windows 8 looks like a joke to me. I won't be wasting money on a downgrade from Windows 7.

Completely agree with you. I have been using Mac in my office and will soon switch to the world's best OS -- OS X. Windows 8 is Microsoft's idea not ours so they are cooking another Vista.

MASTER260 said,

Metro isn't going away. It's the Microsoft standard now.

If it will not sell well....... it will go away......

MASTER260 said,

Well, if you're talking about me, I just don't like people acting like the beta of Windows 8 is the worst issue going on in the world right now...

I agree 100% with that - but because people are complaining about it doesn't make it their worst issue in the world. It's nice to take my mind off of my problems thinking about this.