What console do you plan to buy later this year?

What a difference two weeks make.

On June 6, Microsoft announced several digital rights management requirements of its upcoming Xbox One console, including a mandatory Internet check once every 24 hours and the ability of publishers to restrict the sale of used games. Those requirements were nixed on Wednesday, however, when Microsoft backtracked on the policies in the wake of a negative reaction at the E3 gaming conference last week.

At the conference, Sony received a standing ovation for its announcement that the PlayStation 4 would not restrict the sale of used games or require a mandatory Internet check for any period of time.

Neowin users were overwhelmingly opposed to the previously announced Xbox One DRM requirements, with 47 percent of respondents saying they opposed the Internet check and restriction on used games sales after Microsoft revealed the policies. Another 11 percent said their opinions of the console remained unfavorable, though 17 percent said their opinions of the console remained favorable.

Nintendo's Wii U was released last year, though this poll is only interested in whether you plan on buying either console set for release later this year. 

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I'm a PC gamer so neither of these consoles was on my to-buy list. I would, however, like a wired version of that Xbox One controller.

I'm the exact same way. Lol @ Both Sony/MS for saying "Launch Window" now means until April. There is like 1-2 games I want at REAL launch (November). But most must-have games (Titanfall) won't be out till April.

I'm going to wait till either Spring/Summer, then get one. This will also give me the added benefit of avoiding any launch console issues, as well as see how both consoles seem to perform in the real world (after all the hype has died out)

I have just never 'got' what the appeal is of games consoles. Never had one, even as a kid. I've always been quite happy with the PC.

That's particularly true now I see the difference in price between a typical PC title and what's coming up for Xbox One (I don't know about PS4). On the other hand my PC did cost four times as much as a console.

I can see if I ever went to a lower powered PC I might use a console for gaming.

PS4 -there is nothing else. Only Windows 7 I'll keep using that is made by MS. Nothing else.

Also, this poll has votes by those who get paid by MS. It's more than crystal clear. Can't be such fools otherwise, to change their mind in no time and support the company that is constantly spying and tried to pwn all gamers generally.

I'm undecided now MS have done a U-turn , there should be an undecided option.

I'll wait and see what varies tech sites say about the hardware in each and go from there.

Draken said,
Both, with a new 42" TV and 7.1 headphones, my xmas present

Can I be a part of your family? lol I wish I could get both as presents and a new TV. I'll be going with the PS4 for financial reasons and I don't like the reversal that Microsoft pulled and its consequences. I'll eventually get the Xbox One80 but not for a few years with a price drop to no more than $349Cdn.

It's the PS4 for me... for basically one reason only, you don't have to pay to access media streaming. I only ever played one game online (CoD) and I'm pretty much bored with that now, haven't played it for months. So I'm fine with not gaming online anymore.

Is a shame really as I love Microsoft as a company (as I'm sure we all do here!) and I think the hardware looks better.

Well, I was all set to buy an Xbox One until Microsoft caved to the idiot gallery that wants to stay in the technological dark ages and kill progress. I'm sick of the simpletons driving Microsoft to back track on development. Windows 8 is reflecting some of that same effect by bringing back the stupid Start Button and adding boot-to-desktop.

I'd be curious to see how this has changed with the recent announcements... Though I still think the price will hurt them in the family market where mom and dad are picking out a console (And let's be honest, they're "all the same" other than the price...).

First, xboxone is not a global console (lots of countries are out of the list, including Japan at least for a while) and most of the service will not be present in several countries.

It does hurt not only the number of users but it also the catalog of games.

first the PS4 isn't a global console, it will not launch everywhere at once. never has. did not happen with the PS1, 2, 3 and it will not happen with the PS4. sorry.

This year I plan to get the Ouya because there's an XBMC version for it. Right now I need an upgraded XBMC media center setup more than a console upgrade. Next year, after the hands-on reviews come in, I'll probably get the X1.

I was really looking forward to the Xbox One but now that they took out so many of the cool features, it's not as shiny and awesome as it was a week ago.

(I'm serious... If you don't listen to the mob mentality of the internet, the Xbox One sounded really cool.)

archer75 said,
Neither. I'll wait for prices to drop.

That's the attitude:
1) price drop / convenient pack.
b) wait for a better collection of games.
3) polished firmware.
4) polisher hardware.

I was originally going to buy both, but then the One's DRM got announced so it was just the PS4. Now I'm considering the One again, but I will wait a minimum of one year to see what they do with it exactly, and how things go with the Kinect 2, but I will probably end up waiting two years for the price to come down. I still don't trust MS to have my best interests at heart, they haven't won me back yet.

crushing defeat for sony.

xb1:
-free games and discounts on xbox live
-same day digital releases. no hassle of pre-order/shipping
-future proof with hdmi input for google-tv like functionality
-superior exclusive lineup to ps4
-future proof with cloud computing via the azure cloud
-future pro0f with a hypervisor based OS which allows the device to support the best of traditional pc apps, with the performance of a game allowing for non gaming apps to be more easily developed. xb1 will rule the roost in 3rd party apps.
-superior multi tasking to the ps4 last gen setup thanks to it's hypervisor technology. instant switch simply not possible on the ps4 due to OS limitations.
-superior gaming performance thanks to DX 11.1, experience with SDK development common to the PC world
-superior vision and voice and gesture recognition system with Kinect
-superior nextwork with xbox live
-superior 'smart glass' experience on far more devices than sony.
-integration with Skype, skydrive, easier sharing of media on windows pcs
-halo

if they lower the price to 399, which they should, it's game over for sony.

Only 5GB of RAM available to games, slower GPU. You know that PS3 had a hypervisor right, I'm sure PS4 will as well. They have a dedicated chip for running background tasks, I'm sure PS4 will be fine. You also know that OpenGL is used across ALL devices, including PCs and not just Windows but OS X and Linux as well, so many more developers have experience with that.

We have yet to see if Kinect and MS's network will be superior. The PS Eye seems to do the same exact things but with less latency, and Sony have Gaikai and PS+. The Vita will allow remote play, which you can't do on tablets and smartphones.

The cloud has been available to games for a long time now across all platforms, and even on PCs games haven't really used it. I don't see this being an advantage for the One. They have a lot to prove here because right now it's all buzzwords.

I think the fight will be skewed in a different direction than you may suspect here...

neonspark said,
crushing defeat for sony.

xb1:
-free games and discounts on xbox live

PS+ has done it since years ago. In this aspect, Xbox live is just catching up.

Geezy said,
The PS Eye seems to do the same exact things but with less latency, and Sony have Gaikai and PS+.

PS Eye is just two cameras that use stereopsis to get a depth image. Kinect has time of flight technology for depth field, a much more advanced technology.

ahhell said,
xbone leading the Neowin poll.
Current, top seller on Amazon.
It's been an Interesting 24 hours.

Nothing strange, the shill is strong on Neowin.

PS4 for me now, was going to be X1 as I was looking forward to having a digital library and being able to buy games on day 1 release from the console, just like I can on Steam. But seeing as the Xbox is catered for children and that's who MS listen to and have now ruined that policy.

Crisp said,
PS4 for me now, was going to be X1 as I was looking forward to having a digital library and being able to buy games on day 1 release from the console, just like I can on Steam. But seeing as the Xbox is catered for children and that's who MS listen to and have now ruined that policy.

You can still do all the things you said there. They aren't getting rid of the digital side of things, and if you're lime me and don't plan on buying any discs whatsoever, the only thing we lost is family sharing, which sucks but I can deal with that for now. I'm also not a child.

spenser.d said,

You can still do all the things you said there. They aren't getting rid of the digital side of things, and if you're lime me and don't plan on buying any discs whatsoever, the only thing we lost is family sharing, which sucks but I can deal with that for now. I'm also not a child.

Not true, you lose the digital library allowing youmto play any of your games on any Xbox one you sign into

PS4 for me because:
- Free Games and hefty discounts and automatic game and console updates on PS+
- Netflix etc are NOT behind a paywall
- Infamous Second Son
- Killzone
- Higher end graphics.
- PS3 streaming via Gaikai.
- The console and controller look 100 times better
- No need for a camera to watch you.
- NO DAY ONE internet required (You still need an internet connection to access X1 on day one)
- £80 cheaper

If they really want to make next gen better then they need to make sure that the on demand games and games you download ARE UP TO DATE! I downloaded Pay Day the other week and after a very long download and install time it wanted me to wait once again while a 7.5GB update downlods .... I was like hahahahah NO!

They (Microsoft especially) need to stop with the day one updates for games. Every time I get a game on launch it asks me for an update ..... I'm like WTF! Why is there an update on day one of a game launch?

Edited by illage3, Jun 20 2013, 10:58am :

illage3 said,
PS4 for me because:
- Free Games and hefty discounts and automatic game and console updates on PS+
- Netflix etc are NOT behind a paywall
- Infamous Second Son
- Killzone
- Higher end graphics.
- PS3 streaming via Gaikai.
- The console and controller look 100 times better
- No need for a camera to watch you.
- NO DAY ONE internet required (You still need an internet connection to access X1 on day one)
- £80 cheaper

If they really want to make next gen better then they need to make sure that the on demand games and games you download ARE UP TO DATE! I downloaded Pay Day the other week and after a very long download and install time it wanted me to wait once again while a 7.5GB update downlods .... I was like hahahahah NO!

They (Microsoft especially) need to stop with the day one updates for games. Every time I get a game on launch it asks me for an update ..... I'm like WTF! Why is there an update on day one of a game launch?

Not to nitpick, but your whole PS+ benefit will require an internet connection, putting a contradiction in your statement

Uggh seems the console fanboy war is more in the spotlight than the actual idea of playing video games.

I don't buy products to root for a team so I can prance around the internet trying to show I'm superior because I bought a product.

I'm going to buy what I want and if it does not work out I'll buy something else. Wish people would stick to that crap instead of muddying the waters with their Fanboy rage.

People may buy products you don;t like and have different opinions than you. Deal with it.

Edited by swanlee, Jun 20 2013, 11:41am :

Neither. What little interest I had left in the 360 was lost due to their caving to whiners and losing functionality because of it, and I have absolutely zero faith or trust in Sony. I'll stick to the PC, keep the drama thanks.

xbox 1 will have better support and ecosystem (windows 8, windows phones, tablets etc etc) so if you want modern connectivity then the xbox 1 is probs for you. The ps4 better hardware (although the difference will be almost nothing, well at least at the start anyway).

For me i plan on building a new PC it will cost me about the same, have better graphics and cheaper games. I can always just use my Xbox controller and connect the PC to projector or my 50" TV and pretend its a xbox1 if i want.

But at this point, who wants modern ecosystems? Microsoft has shown that they 1) Don't care about WP over and over again (by doing things like releasing apps for iOS and Android, but not WP), Metro UI on Windows 8 is not only a mess, but there's hardly any decent apps for it.

Meanwhile there's other companies who offer streaming video that isn't behind a xbox gold paywall, and do cool things like screen mirroring to the TV.

2 days ago, I would have said not a single one of Microsoft's "3 screens" approach was working. Now it's down to 2, with the 3rd requiring a subscription.

Well done Internet, you've single handily killed innovation in the console world.

Well it mostly was bad PR from MS, but well done Internet.

Yep, pretty much, reminds me of the start menu crap, riot the street about a stupid start menu button when the start screen is much more functional for that purpose.

People are stupid and don;t see things very clearly. Every console will be digital only next gen, MS was giving you a way to ease into that and had a good plan with family sharing, and people freaked out cause they are afraid of change even if it is for the better.

off course. nothing beats PC

but it is interesting to own a console that is forward leaning like steam is. and the TV functionality looks impressive and more seamless than trying to do voice control on a media pc.

Some of us don't have the time, energy and money to keep up with PC gaming. I did it in my late teens and early 20's and I'm done with it now.

And no you can't magically pull out a 300$ pc gaming rig that blows everything out of the water and magically runs all games on high settings with no problems.

PC gamers greatly over exaggerate crap like that. Fact is to get the benefits out of PC gaming compared to next gen consoles you will have to spend 1000$ or more. You will be spending a lot of time tweaking games and troubleshooting issues. PC gamers want you to ignore that and try and dismiss it but it is a fact that high price and alot of time spent tweaking and troubleshooting go hand in hand with PC gaming. The gaming part comes second and often less time is spent gaming then the other parts of PC gaming.

So the family sharing is gone now. Bummer, that was something I was looking forward to.
I hope they fix that before launch.

Ah, another poll. Weird though, so far those numbers conflict with the forum poll. I guess that there are different audiences in different areas of the site though. Or has there been something recent about the XBox that I missed?

My answer hasn't changed, mind. I've owned Sony consoles since the beginning and I have no intention of stopping now. PS4 it is.

EDIT: Forgot that news comments don't handle links that well...

Was going to wait and see how things panned out with the XB1 DRM but looks like I'll now be buying an XB1 because of the superior software and kinect innovations!

As far as the game is bought on Xbox Live, we only lost the family sharing functionallity, fast switching will still work. Xbox One will still be a great console ! Maybe MS will have to do a little education about the advantage to buy the game online now.

Neither at the moment, but looking at the PS4 in the first year or so.
I imagine most people outside the US will preference the PS4 over the Xbox One.

Interesting seeing people who were leaning toward ps4 because of xbox one restriction now say they don't buy xbox one because family share has been removed. I am sorry for you people. Bunch of idiots

S3P€hR said,
Interesting seeing people who were leaning toward ps4 because of xbox one restriction now say they don't buy xbox one because family share has been removed. I am sorry for you people. Bunch of idiots

its also hilarious tech sites are now saying Microsoft should have kept the online DRM because the family sharing was the future.

I think the general consensus is that Microsoft should have dialed back the DRM a bit, as opposed to going from one extreme to the next.

Had my xbox one pre ordered since day one. totally bummed out about the removal of the friends list sharing and such.

They can stuff their 60$ with 20$ day-one DLCs games right in their slot-loading blu-ray drive, I'm never buying a console again, especially after both my day-one PS3/360 both broke out of warranty, same for my day-one PS2. I'd rather spend the money on a decent computer hardware rather than spending an exorbitant amount of money for console repairs and crazily-priced games.

francescob said,
They can stuff their 60$ with 20$ day-one DLCs games right in their slot-loading blu-ray drive, I'm never buying a console again, especially after both my day-one PS3/360 both broke out of warranty, same for my day-one PS2. I'd rather spend the money on a decent computer hardware rather than spending an exorbitant amount of money for console repairs and crazily-priced games.

And don't forget now that the Kinect is mandatory if it brakes your xbox180 becomes useless or you are going to have to waste money on buying another Kinect even if you don't use it, it's not essential all they are doing is a IE for win95 kind of deal.

Yea they have these things called warranties that tend to cover products you buy, most every electronic device comes with one for at least a year.

swanlee said,
Yea they have these things called warranties that tend to cover products you buy, most every electronic device comes with one for at least a year.

neonspark said,
warranties son. warranties. learn about them in Wikipedia.

As I wrote both consoles broke OUT OF THE WARRANTY PERIOD (that by the way is 2 years in the EU). Please learn to read. The 360 warranty was extended to three years but it broke several times and in the end it broke just out of the warranty period as well. Same for the PS2, the dvd drive laser broke out of warranty. Worst investment ever.

The way I see the extra $100 for the One is comparable-ish to a game. Instead of selling that game 3 months down the line, you have the Kinect and all the integrated features until the next-next generation of consoles...

witbyt said,
The way I see the extra $100 for the One is comparable-ish to a game. Instead of selling that game 3 months down the line, you have the Kinect and all the integrated features until the next-next generation of consoles...

more like 2 games after 1 month of being on sale. Also many users like me don't even want to use a kinect so that isn't a selling point at all for many users.

neonspark said,
exactly. but, if you're getting one, the xb1 is closer to the pc master race than the 1996 inspired ps4.

All I want from the X1 is the controller and, depending on how well it functions, Kinect for the PC, both of which are something I can look forward to.

The PS4 will be cheaper between the two, and if I'm going to get a console, I might as well save money and have the opportunity to play Naughty Dog games.

For everything else, there's Steam. Titanfall is supposed to hit the PC too, and that was my big interest at E3 from the Microsoft conference. Destiny also looks amazing.

Family sharing...the only really attractive feature. They killed it so no xbox one.
PS4 is out of the question. PC > dumbed down consoles.

Seriously? A games console can't game?
Don't get me wrong I love pc gaming too, but I only have 1 pc that can play the Games I like and my wife uses it for WoW, which leaves me SoL

Unlucky mate... But to be honest, WoW capable PCs are the same price (if not less) than a console thesedays.

Okay, so it won't play Crysis 3 on max details, but hey

XB1. hoping they'll work on digital sharing in the future, especially given that they have the code base for it. excited for cloud stuff, still!

Still going for the XBox one, i'm happy the online checks are gone but im sad family sharing is not going to make it live now.

Jeff.T said,
Still going for the XBox one, i'm happy the online checks are gone but im sad family sharing is not going to make it live now.

I have hopes that MS will indeed bring family sharing back, but now it'll be a bit later. It's the overall goal for them and they want to make it that way in the end. The smart thing now is to introduce features like that overtime instead of all at once so that you don't get the huge backlash you did.

I think family sharing on pure digital downloads will show up first and then they'll add a option to make your disc copy a digital copy (so you don't need the disc) and then you can share those as well. But you'll have to be online or have some sort of online check for the sharing to work really.

I had intentions of buying the xbox one if I had the funds before they renegged To be honest. I agree with SteveyAyo that people are being stubborn on some things.

Microsofts perfect solution to all of this was two fold. 1: Kill the 24 hour requirement for people who buy physical games, but they also give up digital sharing and access of their games on any console. 2: change absolutely NOTHING for people buying digital games.

ID be all in for this, first they screwed over the people who hated the digital aspect of the console, now instead of compromising they screwed over the other half of us who WERE excited for the console.

If think to have the best of both worlds would have been to much and too hard to do, its a shame that idiots that complained really don't know what they were talking about and has held back a better system and cheaper games for the time being.

The best of both worlds I bet will happen. However I guess we will see it later in the console's life-cycle, probably after someone else has done it which is a shame because MS really could have had a good differentiating feature here (If they had a. marketed it correctly and b. added more tangible value)

Had two Xbox ones ordered, cancelled them both... investing the money in my PC to play steam until they bring back the original Xbox One, I refuse to buy an Xbox One80

SteveyAyo said,
Had two Xbox ones ordered, cancelled them both... investing the money in my PC to play steam until they bring back the original Xbox One, I refuse to buy an Xbox One80

I've done the same, both my dad and I were gonna have a One, now he'll just stick to his 360 and I'll just upgrade my pc more

ACTIONpack said,
Xbox One for the tv feature

Same here because I can get rid of a few items in our living room once I have the Xbox One. The gaming part of it just now a plus for me.

RommelS said,

Same here because I can get rid of a few items in our living room once I have the Xbox One. The gaming part of it just now a plus for me.

get rid of what items? There isn't a cable tuner inside, you still need your cable box. The only thing you might get rid of is your cable box tv remote.

torrentthief said,

get rid of what items? There isn't a cable tuner inside, you still need your cable box. The only thing you might get rid of is your cable box tv remote.

BluRay Player, PS3, any type of SmartTV device, WDTV, Roku, etc.

Right now, I am using my Xbox 360 as a U-verse receiver. Yes, I still need the main box for recording, but that's in the other room and out of sight from the living room. Xbox One has Live TV functionality that would allow you to connect the XBox to your current cable provider. However, I am hoping that Xbox One can access recorder materials from the DVR like I am doing now.

As Xendrome, mentioned, you can get rid BluRay Player, PS3, any type of SmartTV device, WDTV, Roku, etc. In my case, I can get rid of my BD player, HTPC, and all of the wires bundled in the back, as there will be less wires to deal with.

"Nintendo's Wii U was released last year, though this poll is only interested in whether you plan on buying either console set for release later this year. "

Last paragraph of the Article you are supposed to read.

Blackhearted said,
I guess that means the "neither" choice is the Wii U option.

That's not the poll. The poll is whether you are considering getting one of the consoles that will be released this year -- not whether you're buying into a certain ecosystem in the next-gen console war.

Think of it this way: It's a poll to see if Microsoft and Sony have convinced you to buy their consoles.

Dushmany said,
Just the PS4, I'm too broke for both

PS4 for me too. Superior hardware means if XBox 1 gets 30 fps in a racing game, PS4 will get 35-40 fps on same optimisation level. Radeon 7790 (XBox1) vs 7970 (PS4). I want more graphics power and its a big deal for me. The 100 $ saved over XBox 1 can buy me 1-2 AAA games.

Plus I don't like Microsoft's attitude these days. I do hate Sony but gotta choose lesser of the 2 evils.

sanke1 said,

PS4 for me too. Superior hardware means if XBox 1 gets 30 fps in a racing game, PS4 will get 35-40 fps on same optimisation level. Radeon 7790 (XBox1) vs 7970 (PS4). I want more graphics power and its a big deal for me. The 100 $ saved over XBox 1 can buy me 1-2 AAA games.

Plus I don't like Microsoft's attitude these days. I do hate Sony but gotta choose lesser of the 2 evils.

Thats why every game ran on real PS4 hardware struggled to hit 30FPS but the X1 ran all demos at 1080p60?

Where do you fanboys pull this from. You're basing specs on rumored details which were WRONG for the PS4.

sanke1 said,
Same can be said about you. The reason Xbox One demos ran at 60fps 1080p was because they were demoed on PCs with top end Nvidia graphics. Do you even read most articles at Neowin before labeling people as fanboys because their views are incongruent with yours?

http://www.neowin.net/news/som...ran-on-windows-7-nvidia-pcs



And if you browsed outside the walls of Neowin you'd know that all demos bar LocoCycle were ran on real X1 Dev Kits.

https://twitter.com/XboxP3 - Phil Spencer confirmed Forza 5 and Ryse were on real X1 dev kits. Major Nelson also confirms similar. If you want me to dig out the sources, then ask. I'm just at work.

Just to add also, the picture in that article was from the LocoCycle booth. The only reason it was ran on an Nvidia PC is because its a Windows 8 game also and the port simply hasn't been finished. The developers stated that.

Microsoft would of lied throughout the whole conference if it ran on PC's.

JonnyLH said,

Thats why every game ran on real PS4 hardware struggled to hit 30FPS but the X1 ran all demos at 1080p60?

Where do you fanboys pull this from. You're basing specs on rumored details which were WRONG for the PS4.

That's because all the X1 demos were run of a high end PC. The PS4 games were not. Microsoft them selves said the X1 wouldn't be targeting the highest end graphics.

JonnyLH said,
Just to add also, the picture in that article was from the LocoCycle booth. The only reason it was ran on an Nvidia PC is because its a Windows 8 game also and the port simply hasn't been finished. The developers stated that.

Microsoft would of lied throughout the whole conference if it ran on PC's.

Fact: PS4 GPU is faster than Xbox One.

I want maximum eye candy as I play on my Xbox 360 for shorter duration. How much ever you convince me about Xbox One being equal to PS4 is not going to work.

I am switching sides.

Forza ran on real X1 dev kits and was though of as the best looking game at the show. The pc dev kit issue is being horribly blown out of proportion. MS first paryy games showns all ran on X1 dev kits, some 3rd parties decided to show their games on PC dev environments but they decided to do this with no input from MS and it is a standard practice thing anyway.

Just more un deserved smearing from the vocal sony fanboy brigade.

swanlee said,
Forza ran on real X1 dev kits and was though of as the best looking game at the show. The pc dev kit issue is being horribly blown out of proportion. MS first paryy games showns all ran on X1 dev kits, some 3rd parties decided to show their games on PC dev environments but they decided to do this with no input from MS and it is a standard practice thing anyway.

Just more un deserved smearing from the vocal sony fanboy brigade.

Gran Turismo next will come too. 5 was a joke with jagged edges on PS3. Hope its not the same case on PS4.

sanke1 said,

Fact: PS4 GPU is faster than Xbox One.

I want maximum eye candy as I play on my Xbox 360 for shorter duration. How much ever you convince me about Xbox One being equal to PS4 is not going to work.

I am switching sides.


That just shows how arrogant you are.

You're saying the specific technicalities of the Xbox are fact yet, even though they are based on rumors. The actual specifications have never been released by MS. If you read statements made by developers themselves, including Hideo Kojima, then there's hardly any difference between them. Phil Spencer said the the X1 is around 8-10 times more powerful than the 360 locally, which actually means its on-line with the PS4.

You remember the same leaked specifications for the PS4 which were released by the same people on the same website which you're basing your "factual" statements on? Yeah, they was wrong.

Also, you say you like you're eye candy and you claim to know what you're on about. Yet you don't take into consideration the Azure architecture for server farming which will massively boost that eye candy in-game.

JonnyLH said,

That just shows how arrogant you are.

You're saying the specific technicalities of the Xbox are fact yet, even though they are based on rumors. The actual specifications have never been released by MS. If you read statements made by developers themselves, including Hideo Kojima, then there's hardly any difference between them. Phil Spencer said the the X1 is around 8-10 times more powerful than the 360 locally, which actually means its on-line with the PS4.

You remember the same leaked specifications for the PS4 which were released by the same people on the same website which you're basing your "factual" statements on? Yeah, they was wrong.

Also, you say you like you're eye candy and you claim to know what you're on about. Yet you don't take into consideration the Azure architecture for server farming which will massively boost that eye candy in-game.

You are pointing out that I am speculating. But even you are speculating based on quotes of MS employees. Wasn't there a report stating Microsoft themselves were giving confusing comparisons?

Dude you need to relax and grab a beer!

sanke1 said,

You are pointing out that I am speculating. But even you are speculating based on quotes of MS employees. Wasn't there a report stating Microsoft themselves were giving confusing comparisons?

Dude you need to relax and grab a beer!

Same goes for you.

sanke1 said,

You are pointing out that I am speculating. But even you are speculating based on quotes of MS employees. Wasn't there a report stating Microsoft themselves were giving confusing comparisons?

Dude you need to relax and grab a beer!

So far in this comment thread you've said that the PS4 has superior hardware (this is unknown) and that all the X1 demos were run on PCs (this is untrue for almost all of the demos). You then went on to state that that your previous comment about the PS4s superior hardware was a fact....

If you want the people that you're talking to to relax then stop talking out your arse and contribute something useful to the discussion.

sanke1 said,

You are pointing out that I am speculating. But even you are speculating based on quotes of MS employees. Wasn't there a report stating Microsoft themselves were giving confusing comparisons?

Dude you need to relax and grab a beer!

I'm speculating on official quotes, not rumors which were proved to be false. I feel that's more of a representation.

Tell me about it man, I'd love a beer.

JonnyLH said,

Thats why every game ran on real PS4 hardware struggled to hit 30FPS but the X1 ran all demos at 1080p60?

Where do you fanboys pull this from. You're basing specs on rumored details which were WRONG for the PS4.

HAHA!! your right, xbox demos that ran on high-spec PC with nvidia card? those demos?

nekrosoft13 said,

HAHA!! your right, xbox demos that ran on high-spec PC with nvidia card? those demos?


Its this again. Me and many users have stated:
EVERY demo bar LocoCycle was ran on real X1 dev kits. This included Ryse, Forza 5, MGS5, BF4. All those which I've just mentioned ran at 60fps. The only reason LocoCycle wasnt is because it was originally made for W8 and the port to X1 hasn't been completed. That was totally a developer decision.

0--JLowzrif said,
Again....

"""In talking to a developer who wished to remain anonymous, gamers will see a difference on Day One when they compare third party PS4 games to Xbox One head-to-head. The developer told me the PS4 is 40 percent more powerful than Xbox One and games like Call of Duty Ghosts will be noticeably different out of the gate."""

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo...already-sold-out-at-amazon/


An anonymous developer? I'd rather trust:
http://www.videogamer.com/xbox...is_minimal_says_kojima.html

Don't be silly, nobody's gonna say with his real name this console is X% more powerful than the competitor for the simple reason that all these developers are working on both platforms.You don't like anonymous devs? Here's one with a name

http://www.gamespot.com/news/j...-xbox-one-right-now-6408781

Sony gave the PS4 50% more raw shader performance, plain and simple (768 SPs @ 800MHz vs. 1152 SPs & 800MHz). Unlike last generation, you don't need to be some sort of Jedi to extract the PS4's potential here. The Xbox One and PS4 architectures are quite similar, Sony just has more hardware under the hood.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/...compared-to-playstation-4/5


"Xbox one Games have access to ONLY 6 CPU Cores, 5Gb RAM, 90% GPU power"

http://kotaku.com/the-five-pos...ames-are-strangel-509597078

"So that's another tick on the Durango leaked spec that has been transposed across to the final Xbox One architecture and the proof we need that PlayStation 4's 18 CU graphics core has 50 per cent more raw power than the GPU in the new Microsoft console."

http://www.eurogamer.net/artic...ndry-spec-analysis-xbox-one


Still in denial?

Edited by 0--JLowzrif, Jun 22 2013, 2:21pm :

I'd buy both too, if I a) had the money and b) the time to play all the games I'd like to play on both consoles Until then I have to be content with my PC.

One day I shall get both of them... one day...

Was going to get X1. But neither now that theres no discless option or family/friend share. **** all the small minded sheepish idiots who ruined it.

astropheed said,
Both, as of today.

I'm thinking of getting both but I said Xbox ONe in the poll because i'm going to hold off on the PS4 till well into 2014 at this point. None of the games that are coming out for it soon are games I care about now that FF15 and KH3 are also coming to the XB1.

1Pixel said,
Was going to get X1. But neither now that theres no discless option or family/friend share. **** all the small minded sheepish idiots who ruined it.

You can do digital downloads and keep all those features, and theres rumors that family sharing won't be available at launch but may be available for digital copies of games.

ekw said,

You can do digital downloads and keep all those features, and theres rumors that family sharing won't be available at launch but may be available for digital copies of games.

Yeah, it seems they're still going to try and do the sharing idea, but now it will be limited to any digital download content you get and not discs when before it'd be everything regardless of how you installed the game itself. I hope they come up with a way for us to be able to sell digital downloaded games as well. Like that new $10-$15 arcade game that I got which is fun and all but i'm done with and probably never will play again.

1Pixel said,
Was going to get X1. But neither now that theres no discless option or family/friend share. **** all the small minded sheepish idiots who ruined it.

Despite a lot of people complained I really don't think it was their fault. It was more of the medias fault. The media likes to complain and be negative. They are the ones who scared Microsoft to change. That and maybe the fact that the military personnel would not be able to connect while deployed.

Being able to have the physical disc as transfer medium would benefit all the people with slow internet speeds and bandwidth caps, while still providing the drm policy, but allowing family sharing. So if they just do only digital for that feature, and since i am on a cap, i will be more hesitant on purchasing or downloading a shared title, because i don't want to go over and get charged extra.

blerk said,
I'd buy both too, if I a) had the money and b) the time to play all the games I'd like to play on both consoles Until then I have to be content with my PC.

One day I shall get both of them... one day...

why? PC is still better option

1Pixel said,
Was going to get X1. But neither now that theres no discless option or family/friend share. **** all the small minded sheepish idiots who ruined it.

Boo Hoo. No discless option? What about Games on Demand? No family/friend sharing? I share games all the time with my friends now.

Only mindless idiots believe in the garbage that Microsoft dishes out. You really think they were going to let you share digital games with friends/family members on different consoles without restrictions?